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Money, Property & Investing

168 episodes · 2018–2021 · 74 debates · 120 pieces of advice · 130 stories · 154 quotes

The Daily Talk Show — Australia’s daily podcast, hosted by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen — discussed money, property & investing across 168 of its 1,022 daily episodes between 2018 and 2021. This page collects what was actually said: 154 verbatim quotes, 120 pieces of advice, 130 stories told on air, 74 on-air debates, each linked to the exact moment in the episode and on YouTube.

Where they stand

Moments where the table disagreed, straight from the transcripts.

whether buying in bulk is a good financial strategy

Ep 1018▶ 13:40

Josh Janssen

Believes bulk buying of non-perishables can be a smart, cost-effective way to use cash if you have the storage for it, citing Mark Cuban's advice.

Tommy Jackett

Agrees it can save money but is more skeptical about practicality, noting storage limitations (e.g., needing to keep a doona in a tin shed) and questioning whether it suits his own lifestyle.

watching dave ramsey-style financial 'disaster' content

Ep 1008▶ 18:16

Tommy Jackett

Finds value in it, saying it puts your own financial situation into perspective and that's why the content is compelling even if people watch partly to feel better about themselves.

Josh Janssen

Says the finance content itself isn't fun for him, but he enjoys the format and presentation style, like imagining himself hosting calls from a cockpit-like desk.

whether money/fame should be the goal of creative or business work

Ep 1002▶ 3:30

Josh Janssen

Says he's drawn more to the fun and process of work like Dude Perfect's, not the money itself, though he acknowledges money enables that fun.

Tommy Jackett

Argues that chasing money/fame as the primary goal is often a distraction or 'hiding' from the real work, and that Josh has evolved away from a rich-and-famous mindset he had a few years ago.

whether randomized sales queues (like CoinList) are fair

Ep 998▶ 9:38

Josh Janssen

Questions whether the random queue number system makes sense and seems unfair since arrival time doesn't matter.

Tommy Jackett

Agrees it's unfair but explains the mechanics of the pre-sale waiting room and random assignment, accepting it as just how the system works.

light green skinned avocados

Ep 985▶ 6:51

Josh Janssen

Has always distrusted light-green-skinned avocados compared to dark-skinned ones, and remains skeptical even after his friend defended them online.

Tommy Jackett

Suggests light green avocados might just be an 'average all the time' variety and, after tasting, says the sample avocado was actually good.

buying bitcoin near its all-time high

Ep 983▶ 32:41

Tommy Jackett

Cautious — says it's not recommended to buy at ~$74,000 unless you have spare surplus money that wouldn't affect you if lost.

Josh Janssen

More open/curious — references people's 'to the moon' mentality and considers getting on Binance and SelfWealth himself.

Airbnb and single-stock investing vs. index funds

Ep 981▶ 21:03

Josh Janssen

Leans toward safer long-term bets like index funds (NDQ) over speculative single companies, citing Warren Buffett's philosophy, though he admits to getting drawn into speculative thinking about companies like Oliver's.

Tommy Jackett

Questions whether high-growth companies like Airbnb are even profitable relative to funding raised, and is skeptical of chasing stock bets like Kogan given how founders profit from IPOs while share prices later drop.

chasing crypto/investment hype due to FOMO

Ep 980▶ 16:29

Tommy Jackett

Regrets not buying Bitcoin early and has recently bought into Polkadot partly for fun, acknowledging he's a late 'gronk' follower in the space.

Josh Janssen

Is wary of the hype and 'dick swinging' around investing talk, feels like a wanker discussing stocks/tax, and prefers sticking to simple long-term index funds rather than chasing trends.

FIRE (financial independence, retire early) movement

Ep 968▶ 56:19

Matt D'Avella

Supports the FIRE movement's goal of giving people optionality and financial security, considers himself close to that position, but doesn't see himself ever fully retiring because he loves making videos too much.

Josh Janssen

Frames FIRE as primarily about removing financial stress and gaining optionality over one's time.

whether entrepreneurs get a double standard on 'recklessness' compared to average people

Ep 967▶ 32:51

Josh Janssen

Believes society puts entrepreneurs on pedestals, celebrating risky/reckless financial behavior (like Tesla's near-collapse) as 'innovative,' while an average friend or family member doing the same thing would be criticized as reckless.

Peter Shepherd

Agrees, adding that the freelance/entrepreneurial lifestyle is often romanticized (e.g., taking a Friday off) while the hidden costs—working weekends, no annual leave, constant uncertainty—go unacknowledged.

legalization and regulation of marijuana

Ep 892▶ 39:33

Josh Janssen

Favors regulation so that substances like marijuana are produced to a safe standard rather than being unregulated.

Jack Post

Argues marijuana is statistically less dangerous than alcohol and it's ridiculous that it isn't broadly legalized and regulated.

Tommy Jackett

Points out the absurdity of people being jailed in places where marijuana use is illegal while it's legal elsewhere, comparing it to alcohol prohibition.

property ownership and lifestyle goals

Ep 831▶ 24:09

Josh

Torn between detachment/contentment with current apartment life and a strong pull toward owning a large property with acreage, a studio, and space for hobbies like a barbecue.

Tommy

Acknowledges the same tension, framing the 'sexy' goal of acreage/property against the less glamorous but more important basics of financial security like superannuation and savings.

Advice from the show

all 120pieces →

What was actually said, attributed and linked to the moment.

Should you buy cryptocurrency during a market dip?

Tommy admits he considered texting Jess during a crypto crash to say it was a good time to buy, but acknowledges he doesn't actually know if that's true and is 'just making shit up,' suggesting caution about assuming dips are good buying opportunities without real expertise.

How can buying in bulk save money?

Josh suggests that if you have spare cash, it can be cost-effective to buy non-perishable items like toothpaste or toilet paper in bulk, as referenced via advice attributed to Mark Cuban about investing cash into bulk purchases.

What should you consider before buying in bulk?

Tommy and Josh note that bulk buying only makes sense if you have adequate storage space at home, otherwise it becomes impractical even if it saves money.

When can you clean or swap your golf ball during a round?

Josh explains that while putting on the green, you're allowed to mark your ball's position, pick it up to clean it, and place it back down, and you can also swap to a fresh ball once a hole is finished.

Should I quit my job to pursue my passion project?

Tommy says this kind of advice is inherently privileged and context-dependent; he discusses a real conversation where someone wanted to reduce hours to pursue a passion project, noting that generic advice like 'just quit' ignores individual financial runway and circumstances.

How much financial runway do I need before taking a risk on a business or passion project?

Tommy argues that standard startup advice (having months of savings/runway) isn't realistic for most people, and that this advice can become an excuse to avoid pursuing dreams; he notes he and Josh started their business with just $2,000 each and no computer.

How should a beginner get into cryptocurrency investing?

Have a friend who already understands it help set up an account and start with a minimal, low investment amount to build curiosity and learn by doing rather than trying to understand everything upfront.

How can you tell if a supermarket avocado is actually ripe?

Check by touch, and look toward the bottom of the display pile, as the ripest, softest avocados are reportedly placed there by the store.

How do you balance spicy Mexican dishes?

Pair hot chilli heat with cool ingredients like avocado, sour cream, or cheese to act as a 'fire blanket' against the spice.

Is it a good idea to buy Bitcoin right now?

Tommy advises against buying Bitcoin unless you have surplus money you wouldn't miss, pointing out that even owning a full coin or two at ~$74,000 is a small stake relative to the risk, and that you shouldn't buy with money you need.

How should you approach booking travel/accommodation when life circumstances might change?

Focus on controlling the controllables — book affordable accommodation in advance when prices are low, even if upcoming life changes (like a new baby) make timing feel uncertain.

What's a sound long-term investing strategy for beginners?

Rather than trying to time the market or bet on single companies, invest for the long term in index funds (such as one tracking top NASDAQ companies), following Warren Buffett's approach.

How much should you invest in speculative assets like crypto?

Don't invest anything you're not okay with losing, and don't bet the house — treat speculative investing as something you can afford to lose entirely.

Tommy Jackett (relaying his friend's advice) and Josh JanssenEp 980▶ 18:07

How should an everyday person approach long-term investing without chasing hype?

Consider index funds/ETFs that buy into a broad basket of companies and hold them for a long period, paying a small management fee, rather than chasing individual hot stocks or trends.

Should you buy cheap new furniture or old furniture?

Tommy says he'd rather buy a good quality old item for cheap than a cheap new mass-produced item, since cheap new furniture often looks good in photos but turns out to be low quality.

How should you respond to an unwanted telemarketer call?

Josh suggests you can turn it into a game by giving minimal yes/no answers and asking odd follow-up questions to see how long you can keep the caller on the line before they lose patience.

How can couples keep track of whether their relationship is balanced across different areas?

Use a 1-to-10 scorecard covering categories like finance, respect and sex; as long as scores are spread out reasonably across the board (not multiple simultaneous lows), the relationship is considered healthy.

What should you do to prepare for digital legacy planning (passwords, domains, accounts)?

Josh suggests proactively telling partners where important passwords and account details are stored so that if something happens to you, they can access critical accounts, referencing the real-world case of someone losing access to a large crypto fortune.

Should a startup invest heavily in trademarking early on?

Trademarking can be very costly and isn't always worth it; competitors can often get around protections anyway, so it's often better to focus time and money on strengthening your own brand rather than fighting every potential infringement.

How do you communicate an evolving business vision to investors?

Maintain constant, close communication with investors, revisit your original vision regularly to check you're on track, and recognize that investors are betting on you and your story as much as the product.

Should you trust sensational headlines about public figures?

Read beyond the headline and check what evidence the article actually provides before forming an opinion, since headlines can imply wrongdoing that the body of the article doesn't support.

How can you protect an idea before you've fully developed it?

George suggests informal 'poor man's copyright' methods like writing the idea down, dating it, emailing it to yourself, or mailing it to yourself with a postage stamp to create a timestamped record.

How do you avoid having your business ideas stolen or copied?

Josh argues that merely talking about an idea doesn't give you ownership of it — until you actually execute the idea, it's hard to claim it as yours, so spending too long just discussing something is risky.

Should you buy or rent a beehive if you want to harvest your own honey?

Mason suggests renting an urban beehive (around $600/year) rather than owning one outright, since a provider handles maintenance every 4–6 weeks and you avoid the risk of the hive 'getting out of hand,' though it requires having a backyard or land.

Stories told on air

Tommy's 3AM crypto transfer while drunk

Ep 1020▶ 15:39

Tommy describes waking up at 3AM while still affected by alcohol during a crypto market dip and transferring money to buy more, panicking when the transfer didn't go through immediately, then falling back asleep and finding it had completed by 4AM.

told by Tommy Jackett

McDonald's family box pricing surprise

Ep 1018▶ 12:29

Tommy describes ordering separately from his partner Amy at a self-serve McDonald's kiosk to compare costs, discovering that a family box with far more food cost the same as two individual meals.

told by Tommy Jackett

'Barbecue Bob' and the Sydney COVID exposure sites

Ep 1008▶ 22:57

Tommy reads through a real list of venues visited by a Sydney man before testing positive for COVID-19, nicknaming him 'Barbecue Bob' for visiting multiple barbecue shops across the city in one outing.

told by Tommy

Jeff Jowett and Body Trip's $100 million rise and personal fall

Ep 1002▶ 21:48

Josh describes former guest Jeff Jowett, whose ad/marketing company Body Trip did $100 million in sales through his copywriting skill, but who struggled with drug and sex addiction and alcoholism at the time; Josh notes Jowett is now a calmer person with less money who enjoys horses and golf.

told by Josh Janssen

The Mina Protocol Token Sale All-Nighter

Ep 998▶ 6:26

Tommy stayed up late with his dad trying to buy into an exclusive CoinList sale for the Mina Protocol token, describing the randomized queue system and how he ended up too far back in line (57,000+) to get any tokens, while a friend 'Conspiracy Jimmy' got in with queue number 12.

told by Tommy Jackett

The Easter road-trip bank transfer mishap

Ep 994▶ 0:03

Tommy scheduled automated wage payments for Easter Monday, a public holiday, assuming it would process normally, but the transfer was delayed. He and Amy ended up with only $1.70 accessible while in a country town, had to borrow $60-$80 from Amy's sister for petrol, and spent an anxious period calling ING to find out what went wrong.

told by Tommy Jackett

The Avocado Fruit Shop 'Case'

Ep 985▶ 6:51

Josh describes how his partner Amy bought two avocados from their local fruit shop after the shopkeeper assured her they'd be ready to eat that night; Josh suspected the fruit shop man knowingly offloaded bad produce, leading to an on-air taste test of both avocados to determine if there was actually a 'case' against him.

told by Josh Janssen

George's oversized tax bill and BPAY

Ep 983▶ 30:14

George explains he paid off a large tax bill last weekend that exceeded his bank's daily transfer limit, so he had to use BPAY to push the payment through without visiting a branch.

told by George Martin

The Bitcoin regret and Polkadot buy-in

Ep 980▶ 15:04

Tommy recounts how his best friend ran a Bitcoin business and began buying coins around 2011 at $200-800 each; Tommy nearly bought in back in 2016 but backed out, and has now bought a small amount of Polkadot on his friend's advice, while acknowledging he's the 'gronk' latecomer to crypto.

told by Tommy Jackett

The Tiny Town billboard holdout

Ep 979▶ 1:01

Tommy recounts a small, old car dealership called Tiny Town that refused to sell its corner lot despite major redevelopment around it, and now reportedly profits from billboard rental income.

told by Tommy Jackett

Paying Off Six Figures of Student Debt

Ep 968▶ 57:30

Matt explains starting out with six figures of student debt, paying it off within four years through freelance filmmaking, then building retirement savings to a point where he could stop contributing and still retire comfortably.

told by Matt D'Avella

Elon Musk and Tesla's near-bankruptcy, told via Jason Calacanis

Ep 967▶ 29:37

Tommy and Josh recount a story about Jason Calacanis, a long-time friend of Elon Musk, who learned Tesla had only days of payroll runway left during the 2008 financial crisis while developing the Model S. Calacanis wrote two $50,000 personal checks to help fund the car's development and ended up as the first official Model S order.

told by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen

Borrowing money from Tommy's parents

Ep 964▶ 43:56

After the unprofitable LA trip led to a cash crunch at the end of 2019, Tommy and Josh had to have a hard conversation and borrow money (around $10,000-$20,000) from Tommy's parents to keep the business afloat.

told by Josh Janssen and Tommy Jackett

The six-minute telemarketer time-waste

Ep 899▶ 2:23

Josh describes deliberately stringing along a crypto telemarketer with minimal answers, getting into an argument about Google versus Yahoo, until the caller said 'I don't have time for this' and hung up.

told by Josh Janssen

Paying a tradesperson in Bitcoin

Ep 892▶ 41:39

Jack Post explains he sold much of his Bitcoin holdings to fund a home renovation and even paid an excavator contractor directly in Bitcoin after discussing cryptocurrency with him on-site.

told by Jack Post

Scott Pape drone sales celebration

Ep 862▶ 19:14

Tommy describes using a drone to fly over Scott Pape's farm and spell out '500K' with copies of the Barefoot Investor book to celebrate a sales milestone, inspiring Pape to later buy his own drone.

told by Tommy

The $190 million Quadriga cryptocurrency mystery

Ep 786▶ 32:16

Josh recounts a YouTube documentary about the Quadriga Bitcoin exchange founder who died while traveling in India, taking the only access keys to roughly $190 million (reported as ~$143 million USD) in customer funds, leaving 115,000 customers unable to recover their money, with online conspiracy theories suggesting he faked his death.

told by Josh Janssen, Mason Lauder

Jess leaving private school for a Catholic college in Year 12

Ep 760▶ 2:25

Jess recounts switching from a Catholic primary school to a private school in Bendigo, then deciding to move to a Catholic college for her final year because the private school's house system felt too cliquey for her social personality.

told by Jess Lucas

In their words

“You don't make money or lose money until you take it out.”
Tommy JackettEp 1020▶ 19:18
“Well, you see why, um, it can be very cost-effective to buy in bulk.”
Josh JanssenEp 1018▶ 13:40
“If you were super well off, would you be commenting about yourself in—”
Josh JanssenEp 1008▶ 21:29
“I mean, I wouldn't mind to have the, uh, 12.79 billion views and the money that got and the fun that they're having.”
Josh JanssenEp 1002▶ 4:09
“That was a terrible switching moment. That was some of the worst switching.”
Josh JanssenEp 10006:56
“So, I was number 57,000 waiting at the meat shop to get my salami.”
Tommy JackettEp 998▶ 10:20
“We're in a country town with $1.70 in our accessible bank account.”
Tommy JackettEp 994▶ 1:46
“People who cook avocado are fucking tweaked.”
Josh JanssenEp 985▶ 4:43
“Because it's at $70,000.”
Tommy JackettEp 983▶ 32:41
“Warren Buffett's whole thing is don't try and time the market, go into an index fund, do that, and you'll do better than trying to fucking buy and sell.”
Josh JanssenEp 981▶ 26:27
“well, for any investor, you can't bet the house.”
Josh JanssenEp 980▶ 18:59
“Yeah, I think gambling is a great word for it.”
Matt D’AvellaEp 968▶ 59:22
“It's, it's so underrated to say this stuff out loud.”
Peter ShepherdEp 967▶ 35:10
“I'd, I'd much rather produce a video, um, that I made $5 from but got heaps of views, everyone loved it, versus getting paid $10,000 and doing something that no one watched and everyone hated it.”
MattyEp 916▶ 45:04
“He said to me, "I don't have time for this," and he hung up on me, which I appreciated.”
Josh JanssenEp 899▶ 4:40
“How ridiculous is it that there's people in jail in states of in states of America for something that is now legal in states.”
Tommy JackettEp 892▶ 40:54
“There's no correlation around like having cash and being happy. I think that's like the problem.”
Josh JanssenEp 831▶ 24:09
“I'd have $4 trillion potentially. It's huge. It's massive when you put it that way.”
Josh JanssenEp 829▶ 45:17

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