Jack Post joins us to chat about his content idea, Four Fingers or Five, getting into sports, rebrands and his mullet, out of context quotes, and crypto and prepping.
Show Notes
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –The hosts debate the merits and risks of marijuana edibles versus alcohol, referencing a chaotic group experience playing the social deduction game Mafia in LA.
- –Tommy Jackett publicly reviews new sponsor Manscaped's grooming trimmer on-air, describing it as safe and effective for sensitive-area use.
- –Jack Post advocates listening to podcasts at a maximum of 1.2x speed, while Josh Janssen claims to listen at up to 2.4x speed.
- –A six-fingered baby born in the hospital bed next to Tommy and Amy sparked a tangent on polydactyly, including the medical practice of tying off extra fingers.
- –The group discusses emerging blockchain-based ownership of art and collectibles (e.g., fractional shares of the Mona Lisa) as a concept that could extend to podcast merchandise.
Questions this episode answers
What is the 'Four Fingers or Five' game mentioned in this episode?
It's a game pitched by guest Jack Post where players are told a cartoon character and must guess whether that character has four or five fingers on each hand, e.g. Bart Simpson has four, Shaggy from Scooby-Doo has five.
What did Tommy Jackett say about using the Manscaped trimmer?
Tommy described the Manscaped 'Lawn Mower 3.0' as a product that can be used safely in sensitive regions without nicking or cutting, noting it left things feeling smooth with minimal hair remaining, unlike his past experiences with regular shavers which caused bleeding.
What happened during Jack Post's jellyfish sting story?
While snorkeling in Mexico, Jack Post was repeatedly stung by a jellyfish without initially realizing it, mistaking the sensation for static electricity; welts appeared the next day across his arms and chest, and a local doctor treated him for about $3 plus extra for a topical cream.
Episode TranscriptShow
Jack: The Daily Talk Show.
Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 892.
Tommy: It's weekend banter and Jack Post joins us alongside Mr. 97. Welcome, boys.
Jack: Thanks for having me, uh, Jack.
Josh: Uh, I was just talking to you before. I said, mate, I'm feeling a bit tired. I've been going to the conference in the middle of the night, uh, so it's all on you. What have you got for us today?
Jack: I said I refused to— you actually started treating me like I was the producer of your show and I pitched you an idea and you said that wasn't good enough. I'm not bringing anything on. I got— come, I'm actually coming as a difficult guest. I'm gonna ask you short yes/no answers only.
Tommy: That is great. Well, Mr. 97, who's employed as a producer, what do you got?
Josh: And just being on Josh's show is an excuse.
Mason: Well, Josh did say if I didn't bring anything, he would you'd punch me, so.
Josh: Yeah, I would belt you is the word. And so what have you got?
Jack: I can't catch you though, right?
Josh: What's that? I can't, no, I can't, no, I can't. But I could send people. And so—
Tommy: He can pay, he can, I'm close, I could go and belt me.
Jack: Yeah, please.
Tommy: Belt Seb.
Josh: Yeah, no, that's true. Before Seb, you get to your great content, Jack, can you just tell us the content idea that you did have that I ended up sort of Veto? I didn't even veto it. I said you can do it, but let's just make it a quick game.
Jack: You said 30 seconds. You're the guy that says you guys literally waffle for hours and hours a week and you tried to condense the only thing I bought into 30 seconds.
Tommy: Well, it is a bit rich asking someone to bring something, then what they do bring is, look, look, just dumb that down a bit. Can you just a little bit less?
Josh: Dumbing down wasn't the problem, but, um, so it's pretty dumb.
Jack: I'm not giving it to you. I'm gonna keep it for myself. It'll find, I've pitched it to Christian O'Connell, he didn't like it. I've pitched it to you guys, you don't like it. I'm gonna keep it for myself.
Tommy: Well, Jack, I wasn't there in the pitching, so how about you pitch it up again and maybe I can have the deciding word, deciding word.
Jack: Tommy, I'm not gonna, it's a game. We're not gonna play. I'm just gonna pitch you the idea and you tell me what you think, but it's still mine and I refuse to play it on this show, so I'm not gonna let us play it.. And if you try to play it amongst each other, I'll leave.
Tommy: You did that actually once. You did that, sorry, in a 24 Hours. You left and then like you actually were like, I'm out.
Jack: And then you came back in. But you were just doing this funny software that you guys use. I thought I quit, but I only quit my video. And then I think you could hear me still talking in the background.
Josh: That sounds right.
Jack: All right, the game is called Four Fingers or Five.
Tommy: Oh, all right.
Jack: Okay, are you ready to hear it?
Mason: Yep, yep.
Josh: Is this got something with the Chrome— the issue you've had with Chrome? That's—
Jack: don't do in-jokes. That's inspo, inspo. We even started recording, that would make no sense to anybody.
Josh: They've got a good life.
Jack: Fingers or Five. I tell you a cartoon character and you tell me whether they have 4 fingers or 5 fingers. For example, Bart Simpson is a cartoon character that has 4 fingers. Shaggy from Scooby-Doo is a cartoon character that has all 5 fingers. Wow.
Tommy: I mean, like, I haven't even thought of Peter Griffin from Family Guy.
Jack: What is he—
Tommy: what's he rocking?
Josh: We can't—
Jack: we can't— uh, Tommy, you can't play it.
Tommy: Yes, sorry, sorry. Look, I'm interested. I'd like to, um, I'd like to go on a podcast one day with you and do that. If that's okay.
Jack: Oh, Tommy, I'd love to have you on. As soon as I find the right format for Four Fingers or Five, we'll pitch it to the works.
Josh: And hey, just on this, just on the fingers, by the way, just on the—
Jack: if you think Peter Griffin has no fingers, what do you think he has?
Josh: And that was just— I did a Google image search and he, he'd cut his fingers off. That looks like—
Mason: what did you do to Peter's fingers?
Josh: Yeah, Peter's fingers.
Tommy: And what happened with Jack's chrome? Another inside joke. Um, when Bodhi was born guys, we were in the Sandringham Hospital and the, uh, you know, public, you get shared room. Um, and so there was, you know, a curtain dividing another lady who had just recently given birth. She had a baby that had drum roll. We've got to drop.
Jack: Have we got one? We've got one. Well, let's guess. Is it going to be more or less? I'm going to go more. Yeah, I'm going to go extra.
Josh: Yeah, 6.
Tommy: 6 fingers.
Mason: 6.
Tommy: 6 fingers.
Josh: I'm gonna guess this is the drum. Oh, it was a risk. It was a risk.
Jack: That's actually— that was insulting and offensive to the baby who was born with 6 fingers. No, well, like, it was a mistake, but it was a miracle.
Josh: Yeah, that's great.
Tommy: 6 fingers at birth, not 6 usable fingers. 5 usable.
Mason: Oh, really?
Tommy: One useless. And you know, here's how they get rid of it.
Jack: Is that the medical term?
Josh: Useless finger? Yes.
Tommy: Yep. It's almost like a tag of skin. Like it's— they end up like putting— I was going to say rope, rope around it, tie it to a door, rip it. No, they like cut off the circulation and it falls off. It does. It's like quite— it is quite common.
Mason: As a baby.
Josh: I feel like, TJ, you'd be the guy to want to see it. Oh, did you see?
Tommy: As if you don't wanna, as if you don't wanna. I was fucking going to the food court every 30 minutes.
Josh: How did she know this?
Tommy: Well, we worked it out.
Mason: Could you hear the doc talking about it?
Josh: Surely you had your own issues to deal with, like Amy's just had a baby and you're worried about what's going on behind the curtain. No, we were good.
Tommy: Bodie was good, you know, all 5, all 5 down, you know, all 5 toes.
Jack: Tommy, some people keep, yeah, some people keep like the umbilical cord or baby teeth. Would you keep the finger that you tied off, the sixth finger, in a little jar?
Tommy: Well, I mean, I don't have a good track record keeping— you know, I did, I did. I— they asked me and I—
Jack: no, no, no, I, I want their baby's finger.
Tommy: No, but did you ever do science class? Oh, actually, did you ever go to a museum and actually see a—
Josh: Well, Tommy did in grade 6. When he finished, they—
Tommy: All right, guys, come on. Did you see like where they would have in some kind of fluid or solution some kind of organ that was just sort of sitting there? And I got inspired from seeing that as a kid, and I found a bird in the backyard and I cut its leg off. And, uh, dead one, dead one. Naturally, naturally.
Mason: What are you cutting the leg off with? Was it hard?
Tommy: Yeah, it was a small, small, um, small bird, but I had a test tube and I thought similar, similar vibe, just drop it in the test tube, you know, do the lid up. This thing dropped behind my, um, my cabinet.
Jack: Did you put water in it or did you just put in there dry?
Tommy: No, it just went dry. Put it in, but I just remember finding it months and months later down behind me, um, chest of drawers. Just a dead foot.
Josh: There's a water cooler.
Tommy: Um, nah, that was later.
Josh: A good game though, uh, Jack, and I'm sure you'll be able to find a home for it soon.
Jack: One more thing about Six Fingers. Do you guys— did you ever watch the film Gattaca? I had to study it. Yes. Yeah, in high school. In school, there's a scene There's a scene in Gattaca where they go to watch a performance of a pianist who, uh, has 6 fingers on each side of his hand, and he whispers to her— or she whispers to him— 'You can only play this piece with 6 fingers.' That's good trivia.
Tommy: It's, um— sorry guys, just on the fingers thing, if you're, you know, going one more— there is people in this world that have like 6 usable fingers. I think there's someone with like Up to 8, but, but, you know, really, yeah, imagine a big fist.
Josh: Yeah, multi, multiple fingers person looking at that.
Tommy: What hand, what hand are you, Jack? Are you left or right?
Jack: Perfectly ambidextrous.
Tommy: No, you're not. That is like a— you're a unicorn then. That is so, so rare. It's a lie.
Josh: I don't think it's true because you did order a, um, you You ordered a right-throwing baseball glove yesterday.
Jack: Yes, I'm right-handed. So, after 4 attempts of Josh asking me to buy this baseball glove, because apparently you guys are into sports now, I've ordered the baseball glove and it's on its way.
Mason: Great.
Jack: So, you better still be playing— when it finally gets delivered to my house, you better still be playing baseball. I know how quickly you guys go through phases and you'll be on to like shuttlecocks and badminton. By the time my baseball mitt comes.
Josh: No, no, no.
Mason: We could get into badminton.
Josh: Yeah, we could.
Jack: Oh, it's already started.
Josh: Badminton.
Jack: That's the badminton.
Mason: What is badminton?
Josh: Spell it for me.
Mason: Yep. B-A-D-M-I-N-T-O-N. Yeah.
Jack: Yep.
Tommy: Badminton.
Josh: And it's like great fun.
Mason: Like, you can hit it. You can— I reckon it's a bit of an anger thing. Like, I reckon you could hit it. You can hit it real hard and it doesn't go that far.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, still got skills.
Jack: So like hitting a ball, like a lot of speed is lost as soon as you hit it.
Josh: You were big, uh, Jack, into, um, squash for a while there, weren't you? Do you play squash?
Jack: Uh, only, no, maybe like 6 times. The gym that we were signed up to had a squash court in it, so, you know, you want to take advantage of all the amenities. So I went out and got a squash racket. It was pretty, pretty good squash. I wouldn't, um, if we were still going to that gym, I would still squash maybe once every 6 months.
Josh: Yeah, sure. I mean, there's knee injuries. I feel like it's quite an intense sport, isn't it?
Jack: Not really, like, probably at the highest level, a lot of moving.
Josh: Like, I imagine like tennis or whatever, you know, you hear a lot of sort of, uh, there's a lot of moving in sport generally. Baseball, not that much.
Mason: Baseball's pretty good.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great thing about baseball. Uh, Jack, I like your jumper. What, what is— what is— can you tell us about that? It says heavy something.
Jack: Oh, uh, it says heavy metal.
Josh: It's really nice.
Jack: Um, yeah, this is a local, uh, I don't know what you call it, designer local place in, in Smith Street, Collingwood.
Tommy: What, um, what number complement is that on your t-shirt? Your t-shirt today? Because it's heavy text. It's very just in your face.
Jack: Um, that's the first compliment today.
Josh: But how many times have you— yeah, so you have worn it before and you have received compliments?
Jack: I have worn it before and probably received 4 compliments on it.
Josh: You are— have you ever had a rebrand? Have you ever sort of transitioned from a— from one look to another?
Jack: I would have— I would have also— I would have wore my Gronkh Squad t-shirt but it's at home. I'm in an Airbnb at the moment.
Tommy: Okay, um, just a 3-minute warning for Mr. 97 for his content that he has to deliver. Um, we've got 2 minutes 40— 2 minutes 48 before you have to deliver.
Josh: It sounds like we're at the theater. It's just like, you know, yeah, everyone get to your seats.
Tommy: Um, I'm looking forward to getting— I'm looking forward to going back to the— going to the theater.
Josh: I know, I know.
Mason: Movies, movies.
Josh: Yeah, movies.
Tommy: Yeah, looking forward to that.
Jack: Have you noticed that on the sides of buses, movies that came out that were meant to come out in like March are still on the sides of buses and they haven't bothered to replace—
Mason: I mean, speaking of Amazon recommendations, Jack Ryan is still on a bunch of buses, dude.
Tommy: They've got some good— they've got like a lot of worth out of their posters because now like Prime, everyone, you know, there's a lot of people getting Prime and I was, um, the guys—
Jack: we weren't speaking about Amazon Prime. You gotta, you gotta remember. Yeah, when we spoke about before we started recording. Oh, well, you know what you're talking about.
Tommy: Yeah, I wasn't there, so I'm just—
Josh: well, so yeah, I mean, Mason, it's not great.
Jack: No, you guys are— no, Mason, don't let him do that. You guys are all doing it. Josh, you're doing in-jokes from before.
Josh: The in-joke is very funny because people assume when they hear the Chrome thing they can actually connect some— we've got a smart art audience, Jack, where you sort of—
Jack: I get it.
Tommy: Yeah, but Jack's still trying to work out his Chrome issues, so he's well behind, guys.
Josh: Um, so rebrand stuff, like, Jack, are you ever thinking about—
Jack: what do you mean, what do you mean rebrand?
Josh: Well, just like, um, aesthetic.
Jack: So, you know, I've got a mullet.
Josh: It's not a mullet. You don't have a mullet.
Jack: I've got a mullet. Look at it on the side.
Mason: Here we go.
Tommy: Oh, it's shaved at the sort of temple.
Jack: It's a baby mullet.
Josh: I probably have a bigger mullet and I wasn't trying.
Jack: No, you don't. No, you don't. For people who can't see visually, he's lying.
Josh: Have you— you're going to—
Tommy: how Joe Dirt are you going with this mullet?
Jack: I'm going to grow it out all summer. No haircut till 2021.
Tommy: Well, you're going to get the sides cut because it emphasises the mullet.
Jack: Yeah, I just said that like that was a thing that I've been saying, no haircuts till 2021. No, as soon as the hairdressers have taken bookings again, I'll go in.
Josh: We just never know. Whenever your mate who does anything in content says something, you don't question it just in case it's been a storey arc. Like, I assumed that it must have been a big thing on Christian O'Connell's show of like, no haircut till 2021. So, I just let it go. Talking about haircuts and stuff, we've got this, a new sponsor that starts next week. They're called Manscaped. TJ, you got the the trimmer. Can we get an exclusive on your experience of the trimmer?
Tommy: I mean, are we over-delivering for that client?
Jack: Is manscaping just your balls, or is it your head as well?
Josh: Look at that. Like, oh, oh, oh, Jesus.
Jack: So is that for body hair only, Tommy, or is that for your head?
Tommy: Wherever there's hair, this will get rid of it. That is one thing. But where there's hair in sensitive regions, you can also get to that specifically. And, you know, boy, do I have a lot of that stuff going on. It is a— it's, it's a superior product.
Josh: I will say it's got a light on it.
Jack: And so was that a shock when you shaved your balls with that tool that you just showed us?
Tommy: It is, it is meant for that. Like, there's a t-shirt.
Jack: Yeah, but have you done it? Not what it's meant for. Have you done it?
Josh: He's been speaking about it all week. TJ, tell him.
Tommy: Your balls will thank you. No, I'm serious, guys. I've had serious problems in the past. I mean, it seems kind of gross for blokes to be talking about it, but women go and get their, you know, Brazilians done. I mean, it's probably, it seems like a more, I don't know, sort of mainstream, you know, service offering that's presented, but guys are going to sort themselves out. And so I've sorted myself out with this Manscaped Lawn Mower. It's a Lawn Mower 3.0. But no, I'm serious, there's no cutting.
Josh: I have the tickle.
Jack: How short did you go?
Tommy: Yeah, it's got a mullet all the way, all the way. I mean, you could— baby balls right here.
Jack: It's like, you can't go nude just with a shaver, can you?
Tommy: Well, no, these go pretty much nude. I was surprised. I was very surprised. But there's something on them that is, um, preventing that sort of nicking. I've had serious problems. I've had serious little—
Josh: God, heavy bleeding.
Tommy: Heavy, heavy bleeding from downstairs.
Jack: Yeah, but you've got wrinkly balls, it's easy to cut between the two. It's very true.
Josh: What about the, um, So TJ, would you describe it as have you got stubble now, or what's the term?
Tommy: No, mate, it's like it's disappeared.
Jack: Soft? It's not like it's disappeared. It can't—
Tommy: Jack, Jack, we'll FaceTime after, babe.
Josh: I think it's hard to see me weeping.
Tommy: I'm happy. I'll sort out that Chrome issue too, and I'll show you my nuts.
Jack: And so was it. Can we, for your Patreon supporters or whatever, do an exclusive where you show your balls?
Josh: And so what's the deal? What's the actual, um, uh, like, were you surprised? Because when I think of pubes being completely trans— like, I don't think about ball, like, hairy hair. I don't think I've got really hairy balls. I think I've got sort of more your, uh, pubic moustache sort of above the, the pain region is sort of—
Jack: okay, that's pain region. Would you, would you mean you got a mustache?
Mason: I agree.
Josh: No, well, yeah. So the thing is that I don't like— I'm not growing some sort of—
Mason: How many people have hairy balls?
Josh: Yeah, I guess that's—
Tommy: Well, look, look, it's not about— it's not like my head of hair. It's quite separated, you know. You've got—
Josh: Did it look like a barber shop after you'd done it? Like just on the floor?
Tommy: No, no, very, very, very minimal, but enough to know that you've got the hair there and then enough to realise the difference once it's gone, once you've used this product.
Jack: So I'm just going to the floor and then sweep up, or do you try and like get up over the sink?
Tommy: No, I was on the toilet, just straight down. It's, um, straight down, hit the button.
Josh: And so, Jack, do you feel—
Jack: is that something that's how the toilet works?
Josh: That's good to know. So, Jack, are you a guy that sort of shaves his pubes? How do you sort of— what's your deal?
Jack: Um, I use— this is disgusting— I use the same clippers on my face.
Tommy: Look, I was that guy, Jack. I was that guy until I started using the Manscaped Lawn Mower.
Josh: But the thing is, I don't put—
Jack: I know you guys do that quote, you know, you do a quote each day.
Mason: That is absolutely a quote.
Jack: I do not give you permission to use that as a quote. Gonna be on Daily Mail.
Josh: Well, yeah, normally it's the— what I've been quoted twice in the last week about how close your asshole is on your couch. Like, I've been doing a whole bit lately around—
Jack: What do you mean?
Josh: Well, think about how—
Mason: #CleanYourSeat.
Josh: Yeah, clean your seat. We're starting a campaign. When was the last time you cleaned your seat, Jack?
Jack: What with? I don't know. It's just fabric. How do you clean it?
Josh: Well, just fabric. Your clothes are fabric. Have you smelled the castor?
Jack: Oh, we never have put the cushions through the wash, if that's what you mean. Like, I think you can unzip them and put them through the wash. I've never done that.
Josh: And so, and so you use the same trimmer that you use on your face, you use, uh, on your nuts. The thing is that—
Tommy: sorry, the best troll is using your brother's who he uses on his face and then rocking that for you.
Jack: Yeah, well, it's definitely like yours, premium for your face.
Josh: Well, there's, um, there's actually— I, I feel like it's a bit of a conundrum because the— it seems silly. I don't know, in my mind it seems silly to have a premium product on your nuts and then sort of a half-assed shaver. So I feel like the Manscaped stuff I will end up using on both my face.
Tommy: Yeah.
Jack: And what do they say on the—
Josh: what are they—
Jack: what, when they came to you and said, hey, promote this product, did they say this is for your balls specifically, or use it everywhere including the balls?
Tommy: Well, it's a technology that is safe for using down there. The modern man is a man who takes care of himself. Manscaping isn't just for the life's special occasions, it's a requirement for optimal health, superior hygiene, and healthy self-esteem. You know, you have the right tools for a safe and precious grooming in the hard to navigate sensitive—
Josh: For a guy who was worried about over-delivering, you're doing a lot.
Tommy: Yeah, I know. I'm reading out what's happening.
Jack: It's, um, I'm telling you, this feels like an infomercial.
Josh: I'm telling you, I'm like, we don't do baked in, it's got to be dynamic, to Tony doing a whole episode on it. But so, dude, It's waterproof. That's the big thing, is that it's waterproof. So the idea of being able to do it in the shower, I think, is really nice because I never know. It's never clear whenever I've gotten trimmers before. It sort of— it never uses the phrase waterproof. It's like, I never know whether you can actually properly—
Jack: Well, then it's probably not then. Let's just assume that's not if it doesn't say it is.
Tommy: Yeah, well, water resistant. What does that mean to you? What is water resistant?
Jack: No, water resistant isn't in the shower. Water resistant means like if it gets splashed a little bit, it doesn't matter.
Tommy: Yeah, well, these two animals take their iPhone in the, in the shower. Oh no, Jack, really?
Josh: I don't, I don't remember.
Mason: It's all good.
Jack: Where's AirPods in the shower?
Josh: She's gonna electrocute herself.
Mason: I don't think AirPods are waterproof.
Jack: I don't think they are either. She does it, she says when she's not washing. No, no shower cap, but just like keep them out of the—
Josh: what is she listening to?
Jack: Podcasts. She, you know, she listens to every of my shows, every show.
Josh: Well, that's good. Double speed.
Jack: Do your partners listen to every, uh, no, not double speed, normal speed. Now, um, do your partners listen to every episode Uh, TJ?
Tommy: Amy's done about, I reckon, 600. Probably more. She was on a binge.
Mason: Grace has done a heap. I would have—
Jack: yeah, well, she, she came as a listener to the show, so that doesn't really count.
Josh: Okay, thank you. No, because she's already listening.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Josh: I, um, now Bree, uh, Bree doesn't listen that much. She would say that she listens enough just in general life.
Tommy: Yeah, she gets it.
Josh: She gets the joke.
Jack: Just give a compliment every, every year, every now and again. She's like, oh yeah, I heard that one with Hamish. Very good, Josh.
Josh: Well, that was one where it's like, hey, can you help with, uh, show notes? Because, um, we had a few things on that day. So I said, hey, can you listen in and time code? And it's not a fun experience because I play doubles. Yeah, come on.
Jack: I hate double speed, by the way. I'll go up to 1.2 max.
Josh: 1.2?
Mason: Really?
Jack: What's this?
Josh: It's like a slow guitar. This is—
Jack: what's the point? That's already faster than normal human speech. 2 times speed is just to say that you've listened to the episode, but you're actually not— nothing.
Josh: I can get to 2.4, about 2.4, and I'm still good.
Tommy: Oh my God, it's almost a worrying thing for your mind. Like, think about just It feels manic at that point.
Josh: Yeah, if I ate licorice, I'd probably have a heart attack. Do you—
Jack: does talking to us now seem very slow motion to you?
Josh: Yeah, that's how I feel.
Jack: He's using normal speech.
Tommy: He's always, he's always doing this, come on, hurry up.
Josh: You were going to say something, Jack, though. What was your question? Do you even remember?
Jack: Oh, I don't know. You guys have these chapter markers on your podcast. What are they really for? Like every— so if I listen in the car, right, every now and again it'll change to like, you know, we'll talk, it will say Manscaping, and then we're going to talking about listening to podcast double speed. Why, why, why do you need that? Like I'm already listening to the show, I can hear what you're talking about. Why do I need a little title that says like, now you're in this zone?
Josh: Well, it's— I think it's good for like discoverability. So the thing is you're gonna have to do show notes anyway. You want to explain what is on the show. And then so then we're like, we also like to, uh, know where things are for our own records. And we're like, oh, it's only one extra step to embed them into the, um, sure.
Jack: Okay, but you're not thinking people like, oh, switching through all of these today's episode, but I love hearing about Tommy's balls. No, it is interesting.
Josh: It reminds me of, um, I feel like smart, like the radio stuff never did it in a big way. Like sometimes there was the Like, have you ever owned a digital radio, Jack?
Jack: Oh, I know my car tries to do like, Triple M will tell you the weather at the same time that you're listening and that sort of stuff. Is that what you mean? Yeah. They get— you can put out some notes, like it says who's playing, obviously, and then maybe the number to call in and the weather. Yeah.
Tommy: All pretty cool. Is that digital, JJ? Is that what it is?
Jack: Because I never bought or knew what Yeah, I don't have a digital radio in my car.
Josh: So what would it be? So it would be— I wonder how it's doing it.
Jack: I know, yeah, actually maybe it is semi-digital, but it's not frequencies. No, you know, you're picking up frequencies, so it's not digital.
Mason: Have you—
Josh: no, putting up for like frequencies, like it still is a frequency.
Jack: No, no, but you, you toggle through frequencies, not like you on a digital radio. Don't you just Yeah, actually, I don't know. It actually comes up as station names only.
Josh: Yeah, that's a good point. I don't actually understand that.
Jack: They still might use their call sign as the frequency, like 101.9 The Fox, but you're not actually toggling through and going 101.8, 101.9, 102.0.
Josh: Yeah, it's almost like the Foxtel numbers or something.
Jack: Mason, it looks like you're Googling it, or you just started checking your emails because you're bored.
Mason: No, no, I'm actually just looking.
Josh: Looking at the pedigriff and how many fingers.
Tommy: I think you actually have 4 fingers. We, uh, Sevs, if you're sort of running low on content, mate, I've got something if you need. You need something?
Jack: We never did. I mean, we didn't even try to do his content.
Josh: Well, we'll get to Sevs, uh, his content after TJ. But, uh, Sevs, whilst TJ's telling his story, can you find out about the digital He needs his help. All right, here we go. Okay, so stop what you're doing, Mace, unless you've got an answer on the digital radio.
Tommy: Uh, open up our Instagram @thedailytalkshow. Uh, just on Jack referencing your, um, your quotes, Josh, or what he's seen coming through, I thought a fun game that I'm handing over to, um, the Hump Day Replay boys and girls is, uh, out of context quotes.. And so this is a fun game. Go back, Sevs, probably, you know, 3, 4 weeks. I can assume Jack— I know he may— he listens to most shows, but he may have missed one show. Hopefully. Big fan, big fan. Can you just find a quote, read it out, and Jack has to guess what context it is? Try and find one that doesn't make any fucking sense, please. But then he has to guess who it's come from and what the context is of of that quote.
Jack: Yep. All right. I like it.
Mason: All right. So, the quote is, "I would be the kind of guy to get stung by a jellyfish and just put a bit of fucking vinegar on my tits." Okay.
Jack: I didn't hear this episode. I didn't hear this episode. So, is it only out of Josh and Tommy? It could be the cast and crew. It could be guests.
Josh: Could be anyone.
Mason: Could be anyone. Cast and crew, guests.
Josh: Could be Grace. Could be anyone.
Mason: GB.
Josh: GB.
Jack: I'll guess Josh.
Josh: Do you zero in on Josh?
Jack: And no, no, not because of the tits thing, not just because you do seem like someone who might get stung by a jellyfish.
Josh: On the tits.
Jack: And the context is, um, talking about getting stung by jellyfish.
Josh: This is where the game falls over.
Jack: Yeah, definitely.
Josh: That was good. Do we have one more? I like this game.
Jack: Where was I?
Josh: Right, okay, yeah, you're right.
Tommy: Yeah, I can't remember what we were talking about. Like, I'm sure it was just about getting— I mean, stung by jellyfish, but like in reference of something happening to you, like a guy that happens to—
Josh: I was scared of oceans. I think it was after watching the— I think it was—
Mason: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack: I've been trying to get jellyfish. Has anyone been stung here?
Tommy: Yeah, it's so annoying. It is so— it's just the pain doesn't stop.
Jack: It's, uh, I got, I got stung by a lightweight, I would say it's a lightweight jellyfish. So I kept letting it sting me. I was, this is in Mexico, only in December. So it was, I could feel it like stinging me, but not enough to get out of the where I was snorkeling. And then the next day I had all these welts up and down my arms and across my chest from, uh, the jellyfish. So it was like, what were you saying at the time?
Mason: You're like, ow.
Jack: No, I was— I didn't actually even know it was jellyfish at the time. I was like, oh, it's like— felt like static electricity. You know, when you were getting off a trampoline as a kid and you touched the metal and it would go like, "Tss." It was sort of like that. I was like, oh, that's weird that the water in Mexico does that, but I guess it's just a feature of this beach. And then, I probably had to go to a doctor.
Josh: Did you realise straight away? Like, at what point were you like, I've been stung?
Jack: No, didn't realise. The doctor had to tell me. I thought it might be an allergic reaction to anything, like it could have been food or like the clothes I was wearing or just getting some, um, kind of rash. Bad burrito, bad taco. But the, the doctors solved it quick smart, gave me— the doctor to go in Mexico, you always worry about going to a doctor overseas. He costs like $3 to see him.
Mason: What, what did he give you?
Jack: So good.
Josh: And you walk and you get a free taco, isn't it, on Tuesday?
Jack: Sick. Uh, he gave me, okay, he gave me a topical cream. That did cost extra. That wasn't inclusive in the $3.
Tommy: You realise it was not a doctor? It is a complete scam.
Jack: Well, the cream works, so even if it was—
Josh: what was the cream?
Tommy: Avocado. Avocado.
Jack: It looked like, um, you guys ever use like— is it called Soothe? Soother or something like that? Like a clear gel, it looks like.
Tommy: Yeah, well, If it did the job, it did the job.
Mason: Just stuff that soothing cream.
Tommy: Doctor or no doctor. Sevs, next one.
Mason: Okay. Uh, I thought edibles were going to be my drug of choice on a Friday night when I'm tired.
Jack: Okay. Who's more— I feel like, I feel like Josh isn't really into drugs. Well, I don't know. Tommy's a father of a young boy, so I don't imagine he's heavily into drugs either. Do you like drugs? I'm gonna go 97. He fits the mold. He's 20 years old. He's probably— he's got his cap back right now. He's probably— he's got a t-shirt that he'd wear to a music festival and take it.
Tommy: He's got a dance pack in his pocket.
Mason: Look at it. It genuinely is a t-shirt you'd wear to a music festival.
Jack: Yeah, it's got like an Illuminati symbol on it.
Josh: And even the neckline, it looks like you've been into a fight and someone's pulled it. It's got that vibe.
Mason: It's a bit ruffled up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tommy: Got in a Punch up in the mosh.
Josh: And so, who was it, Sev? And what was it referring to? I feel like you're not going to be able to answer the second question again.
Jack: Alright, now I'll guess the context then. So, whoever it is, I think they're talking about taking drugs not as a, like a party drug, but more for efficiency or to stay awake and do more work. Okay.
Mason: So, again, this is Josh and it's in relation to LA when we tried edibles. Yeah. And so Josh wanted to chill out.
Josh: I thought I could, yeah. So what happened was I only discovered recently the mental health impact of having it too often because I was thinking, I'm like, when this comes to Australia, rather than having a drink on a Friday night, 'cause I've only just started drinking anyway, instead of having a drink on a Friday night, I would have some edibles.
Jack: Like, I like these, like, pot cookies or something.
Josh: No, no, not even cookies. I like the idea of gummies.
Mason: Just gummies, just lollies, which is the same, same drug going on.
Tommy: Um, Jackson, it's, um, yeah, I mean, have you tried edibles in a, in a destination that is legal to do so, Jack?
Jack: Uh, not in a destination that's legal to do so, but that was me.
Tommy: You're a lifeline.
Jack: Oh yeah, yeah, no, now that— now I remember it was in, uh, it was in LA as well, this storey that I'm about to tell you. Have you guys ever played— have you ever played the game Mafia? No. Uh, oh my God, we gotta play this sometime. This is— but without— even without—
Mason: just in LA though, okay.
Jack: This is— this is— yeah, this is the best game that you can play with a group of friends. So it requires no board game or anything, just somebody who knows how to play and they're the ringmaster. And then it's sort of like, um, do you ever play Win Murder? No, no, no. It's like a social, um, like game of, uh, lying and deceiving and trying to work out who the mole is.
Josh: It sounds like the podcast.
Jack: It's part of the month.
Josh: And so you heard it. So yeah, explain to us.
Jack: Do you want me to explain you the game or just tell you what I— what, how the—
Mason: Is it a bit like Cluedo?
Jack: Brownies were involved. No, no, not at all. No, no, no. Okay, what sounds like? It's like We, we would all sit in a circle, right? Say there's 11 of us— no, 10 of us. You got to have a few people because there's 3 people in the mafia, the rest of the people of the village. And then I would say be the ringleader, and I would tell the mafia— I would tell the whole village to go to sleep. And then the mafia, I would touch on the knee, and then 3 people in the village would be the mafia. So the mafia's role is to kill people in the village, and they get chances to do that. And it's the the village has to decide who's the mafia before too many of them get killed. So, either mafia wins or the village wins. It's a great game. And then, because what happens is you start to suspect people of lying or being too reserved, it actually opens up. It's so fun. I'm desperate to play. I want to play with you guys this weekend.
Tommy: But—
Josh: Should we do it in the park? We could go to a park and do it.
Jack: We easily could do it at the park. It's more fun with like a few drinks and stuff, but— Um, we know why we hardly don't do drugs at all, but we made these, um, we made these pot brownies for the one of the Mafia games, and I, I have no idea like how to do that. I had to watch on YouTube like the guy cooking up the, um, because you got to like cook up the marijuana. Yeah, into butter. Yeah, yeah. And then you use the butter as your fat to cook the brownies and It was— I mean, you've heard this storey 100 times before, but everybody takes a brownie. They're like, oh, it's good, but it hasn't really kicked in for me. So everybody eats 3 or 4 more brownies, and then the game— and then everybody essentially goes off the rails. But it was honestly still one of my favourite memories, is trying to keep that— the game of Mafia under control, but everybody's like slowly getting past it.
Josh: What were you doing? What was your response to it?
Jack: So, as the game goes on, you play maybe— a round might take you 10 or 15 minutes to complete. And then as you play a few more games, more people want to try and be the ringleader because they understand how it works and they can remember the rules. So, people were putting up their hand to be the ringleader and then forgetting who they made the mafia and forgetting who was in the village and forgetting, you know, the general structure of the game.
Josh: Well, Tommy and I had to fight. Tommy and I had a fight when we were on edibles because I wasn't feeling it and TJ thought that I was gonna overdose. And so he hid the gummies, he rationed it out.
Jack: Yeah.
Josh: And then—
Jack: It's true because it's something that happens a lot, I think, especially when you cook it into something is like, people feel like, oh, it hasn't, it hasn't worked yet.
Josh: And so, TJ had hidden them and I cracked it and then I went to bed. And do you remember, mate? We were, we both were, we were the same.
Mason: You were, you were so obnoxious though, because you got FaceTime and you went and FaceTimed Bree and you turned it up to the loudest volume your phone could go and you started complaining that TJ took them away from you. And then, Once you got off the phone from Bree, you went to me, just go get them off TJ. Go ask TJ whether they're—
Josh: This is a lifetime opportunity. This is an opportunity of a lifetime. Here we are trying to have an experience. And I think I said like, Tommy stole my high as well.
Tommy: And Jack, I stand by any guy who is acting like that is having effects of marijuana.
Josh: I can feel it. Feel it. And so anyway, I know you couldn't feel it. And so we've got the whole video, we filmed the whole thing. We released it, people could email in and we'd send a private link. But we then, TJ gave up and gave us the edibles. And then there's footage of Sev's and I going back. I think we were watching Friends. Yeah, round 2.
Mason: We watched Friends, yeah.
Josh: It was really sad, it was just like, sitting there just waiting, just like, just not feeling anything.
Jack: It wasn't the party night.
Josh: Yeah, it's just like, I'm just tired. I think, did I fall asleep? I think I fell asleep.
Jack: Yeah, you fell asleep.
Josh: Yeah, so I haven't really laid really.
Tommy: You look rat shit the next day, Josh, like your eyes are all fucked.
Josh: It hasn't affected you.
Tommy: I was just like, it had an effect on you, it just didn't have the effect you thought it would do. So there's the one that you think, ah, it's going to laugh or do, you know, do something. It is a classic case though that you don't— that there is some version of not feeling the effects, like identifying with it first time, and then you do it the second time and it will blow your head off. Like, it'll make—
Jack: yeah, we were in Barcelona once with the— met these guys, other Australian guys at a club, and they were doing party drugs, like I guess ecstasy or something like that. And one of their mates had not tried it before. And he was like, you can, you can see that it's affecting him straight away. Like, he's bouncing around. He's such a lovely guy. Like, I really liked him, but a bit naive. And he was like, Jack, man, I just met you, but I love you, man. This is the best night of my life. Hey, I can't wait till the drugs kick in.
Josh: Oh, that's so full-on. Yeah, I mean, the, the, the party drugs scare me. You hear about like people taking a pill and they don't know what it is.
Tommy: It's more dangerous now, now than ever. It's like fucking real dangerous.
Jack: Well, that's what I did the same night he went into the toilet cubicles and took off most of his clothes and came out and he said he was too hot.
Josh: Well, I think there's just, um, that's right, what I like about the States is that like, I like regulation. I like the idea of like, let's have these things in but designed the way that they're meant to be, not like filled with shit. And that's what like, I think that that's especially for pot, right?
Jack: Like, I'm, I don't hardly use it at all, so I'm not saying it as an advocate of because I want to use it more, but it just seems so ridiculous, the stats on it and how less dangerous than alcohol it is. And that they can't just regulate it and make it legal.
Josh: Well, because alcohol is so— Like, I really feel the effects of alcohol. Like, I can— And it's—
Mason: You get good at baseball.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did. It was great. We got a little bit tipsy at the park and then played baseball, and it was the best combo ever.
Jack: Now we'll add in Mafia as well and we'll have the time of our lives.
Tommy: How ridiculous is it that there's people in jail in states of in states of America for something that is now legal in states. And so, imagine alcohol, imagine if that was the case, like people were still, you know, prohibition was around a while ago and in our generation, imagine if that was the case and there was people locked up for selling booze. It doesn't make sense. It's bizarre.
Josh: I wonder, like there was a guy that was talking about all the marijuana IPOs or public listings and that you could make a bunch of money if you got into that. You, um, you got into crypto for a while, Jack. I don't know if you remember when I had my YouTube channel. I think you even spoke about crypto on my YouTube channel.
Jack: I was, I was big into it, and I still— I, I haven't— I'm hardly read about it all anymore, but I still can see how much I was into it because I still follow all the same subreddits. So whenever I go on to Reddit, it still gives me, you know, my subs for cryptocurrency and Bitcoin and Ethereum and all the other ones I was into. I lost— I sold a lot of the Bitcoin to do the renovation we were doing at our house.
Josh: And then you even paid tradespeople with Bitcoin, didn't you?
Jack: That's right. Yeah. The excavator guy was, you know, digging the stumps and stuff in the backyard, was talking about crypto with me. And by the end of the day, I just transferred him Bitcoin to pay for him.
Tommy: That's great. There is a new— I'm not sure if you're across this. I've only briefly been sort of explaining the deal, but Disney's bought into this. They're investing heavily. It's, um, it's taking something like a painting, like the Mona Lisa, and breaking it into shares, digital shares, so people are owning items. And so for a podcast, you could do once-off runs of merchandise that are owned by groups of people. Um, and, and, you know, the value goes up or down or whatever it is, but it's, it's held digitally. And it's like, it's—
Jack: what do you mean? Like, so you say we all— well, and what's the podcast thing? Like, I get it, I get it. Well, I'm just saying, like, we all have a tiny share in the Mona Lisa, right? That makes sense.
Tommy: But so people with following— so Logan Paul could probably do it based on his following of 20 million people on YouTube that, you know, would want to pair up and get something that's unique. So it's a once-off and is owned by somebody, you know, by a group of people, um, through like a—
Jack: right, so his fans would own the Mona Lisa, or not—
Tommy: Mona Lisa is an example of a piece of art. It's going to be huge in the art world.
Jack: That would be good.
Tommy: That would be—
Jack: yeah, that'd be cool, right? It's like, that'd be cool.
Tommy: And all these fans, but they're using the— they're using the—
Jack: I mean, he probably like— I don't know his channel, but he'd probably like piss on it or something. It's a good one.
Josh: Did worse.
Tommy: Shoot it with a shotgun just to have a bit of— make a bit of fun. But, um, they're using the technology of like, uh, the blockchain to secure this.
Jack: But there's definitely something in there. I just— I got— I, I just got bored of it, I guess. Like, I thought There was a period where it was increasing in value so much, I think 2017, that I was like, all right, here we go. This Bianca and I are set for life Googling countries to emigrate to that don't have taxes on cryptocurrency and just start a new life somewhere. And then it all crashed after that.
Josh: Emailing about joining a billionaires club or something like that.
Jack: How do I find them on a list?
Josh: And I've gone into that, like, even with like No cash. I've been into like, ah, you know, if the world was going to end, where you'd want to be? You know, you can—
Jack: You mean from a climate change perspective or just from—
Josh: In general. So, there's a book called Emergency by Neil Strauss. He did, what book was it? The Game. The Game. And the idea being that you can get passports from different parts of the world and then if shit hits the fan, you can move there. But it also has the tax implications stuff as well.
Jack: There is something exciting about plan— I get why people get excited about planning for doomsday scenarios and, you know, like just preppers in general. I, I feel like— and maybe people who love guns and that sort of thing get excited by it more, like getting super prepared for something that will happen and then having an advantage because they're all stocked up for it.
Tommy: Well, better be safe than sorry, Jack, as me and the preppers say.
Josh: I mean, where would you live?
Jack: Are you prepping, Tommy?
Tommy: Absolutely not. As long as, you know, if I've got my shaver, I'm good.
Josh: You're all prepped. I mean, you've got a torch there, you've got everything you might need.
Tommy: I'm all about prepping those smooth balls.
Josh: Can, uh, Sev's the piece of content for you?
Tommy: Oh no, I reckon we save it for for another show. I want to build that. It could be—
Josh: give us 2 weeks before we get it. Can you give us a little tease?
Tommy: Give you a tip of what it could have been? You can't give it all away, just a little tease.
Mason: Uh, well, I've been doing, uh, a lot of it lately, and it's, it's not good.
Tommy: Oh, I love that tease! Love that tease! Coming up after the break, Seb goes into his dilemma.
Josh: Jackie Rhoades Studios, you've got, uh, a couple more more, uh, episodes before you change your format a bit. Andy Lee, uh, on Monday— is that when that comes out?
Jack: Yeah, Andy Lee is the next guest, and then Christian O'Connell will round out this season, series 1 of Jackie Road Studios, wherever you get your podcasts.
Mason: Lovely.
Tommy: Love it.
Josh: Thank you, Jack Post.
Jack: Guys, just quickly, Fred Flintstone, 4 fingers or 5?
Tommy: I'm going 4.
Jack: Correct. Josh wins. Thank you.
Josh: I mean, I feel like there's very few that have 5.
Jack: Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, any animal.
Mason: Yeah, Shaggy was— Shaggy the dog.
Jack: What about like, uh, Shaggy's the man.
Josh: Scooby-Doo's the fucking dog.
Tommy: What about Woody from, uh, uh, Toy Story?
Jack: Oh yeah, I reckon he's got 5.
Tommy: Yeah, I reckon he's more human-like.
Jack: Got it.
Tommy: All right, Jackie, thanks for coming on, buddy.
Josh: All right, uh, thanks, Jack. It's a Daily Talk Show.
Jack: Is that the answer? Does Woody have 5, or are you—
Tommy: we need it. I thought we weren't playing.
Josh: Can you, um, announce it on Jackie Rhoades Studios just at the front?
Jack: No, no, no, no. And, um, Sebs, what— where did we get to with the frequencies of the radio stations on digital radio?
Josh: Uh, no real big update, to be honest.
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, no real big update is I didn't do it. I didn't get there.
Jack: All right, abort. Let's get out of here. Oh guys, I'm also on your other show tomorrow.
Josh: Yeah, Screenplay Sunday. Uh, who will you be playing? Will you get the role of Dale? Uh, find out Screenplay Sunday wherever you get your podcast. Thank you, Jack Post. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.
Tommy: See you guys.
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