It's Fat Fridays, and we've got a full house with Dodge, Rainman Ruari and fellow Gronk Wayne on the couch! We chat about Dodge's favourite movie, Mr. 97's eventful trip to work, Bodhi and starting prep, and we get a book club update.
Show Notes
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At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –The hosts and crew debate when a new decade technically starts, concluding (via George Martin and Wayne Peters) that decades run e.g. 2021–2030, not 2020–2029, by analogy with the Y2K millennium debate.
- –Jess Lucas recounts being harassed on her commute by a bus driver who stopped the bus to tell her off, then by a man on an electric scooter who repeatedly circled back to compliment her before revealing he does 'video stuff' (implied porn).
- –Josh shares a story about a friend who smoked a gram of ice a day for years while holding down a job and family, used as an example of functional addiction.
- –Tommy explains a habit-building tip from the book Tiny Habits: attach a new habit to an existing one using the word 'after' (e.g., after brushing your teeth, floss).
- –Rain Man Rory runs a Google sentiment analysis on past episodes showing Josh's mood was very negative (3% positivity) for episodes 629–631 but improved to about 10% positivity for 632–635.
Questions this episode answers
What movie made Josh Janssen cry on the show?
Josh describes watching The Big Sick with his wife, saying he tried to avoid the emotional parts but ended up crying when the main character's love interest gets ill, and said it 'felt kind of good' to have a cry.
What dog movie is discussed as making someone cry on a flight?
Wombat (Wayne Peters, nicknamed Wombat/sweetie in this episode) says he cried watching The Art of Racing in the Rain, a film about a racing driver's dog, narrated by Kevin Costner, in which the driver's wife gets cancer and dies.
When does a new decade actually start, according to the debate on the show?
George Martin and Wayne Peters argue that because there is no 'year zero,' decades run from a year ending in 1 to a year ending in 0 (e.g., 2021–2030), similar to the argument that the new millennium technically started in 2001, not 2000.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 636.
Josh: Happy Fat Fridays, you absolute gronks. What's going on?
Tommy: We're trying new technical stuff, and the problem is that when there's a lot of tight anuses in this building, when I was old enough, technical, when there's technical stuff, I can't help but like get really, uh, short and annoyed. And it always happens at a time when the we're full, there's like heaps of people, there's a lot more pressure. And so then everyone— Wayne's just like, man, he's a fucking asshole.
Josh: He's just smiling. We've got Wayne Peters on the couch.
George: Welcome, buddy.
Wayne: Thank you.
George: VIP grunt.
Josh: And we got, uh, yeah, Rain Man Rory, Dodge, Sevs.
Tommy: Full building.
Josh: And then also on Zoom we've got Bradley M, or is that Mason? No, that's me.
Tommy: It's Bradley at 97.
Josh: Harry Grace was here. I was just laughing before because Harry, you're such an old soul, mate. You're just sipping on a Sunkist can or something like a passion, passion or something. Passion fruit flavored, full sugar. It's Fat Fridays. It sure is. Dodge. Yeah, we gave you the company card. Harry usually likes to take our company card.
Wayne: Yeah.
Josh: And I said $20 limit. Josh said $30 limit.
Tommy: I was just worried that the $20 was just too limiting. You don't have to— you didn't have to use the whole $30, did you? How much did the total come to?
George: $30.64.
Josh: Nah, mate, you blew it. That's ridiculous. But I thought because Dodge is new to sort of hanging with us and it's nice to sort of see what people's go-tos are, and I said get what you like, not what we like.
Tommy: And then I said, but do you like lollies?
George: And I said no.
Tommy: Yeah, what's your problem with lollies?
George: I just think they're— I just prefer savoury food.
Tommy: Okay, so it's all going to be savory.
Josh: Just can we get a sweet savory, uh, Hands up around the, uh, Rory.
Wayne: Savory.
Josh: Uh, Dodge is savory. Mr. 97? Savory. Yep. And just, just so you know, sweetie knows what's up.
Tommy: Yeah, that's what's good.
Josh: What's up, sweetie? You guys are late.
Tommy: We should, we should actually call each other sweetie. Could that be your nickname, sweetie? Do you like that? I've had worse. All right, there we go.
Josh: So sweetie's, sweetie's ready, uh, but he'll be disappointed because I think Dodge has gone with what he likes.
Tommy: Well, the thing is that at my, at my house, like savoury food can last a long time. Like we got a packet of sweet potato chips. If they were lollies, oh, here we go. Oh, this is great.
Wayne: Yeah.
Josh: So we've got a— I should have upped the limit and made it alcohol is included.
Tommy: Oh, sure.
Josh: Because this is the perfect spread.
Tommy: Cheese?
Josh: Just chips.
Tommy: Oh, good. So there is something sweet. Great. Oh, here we go.
Josh: What is that?
Tommy: George, go back to your mic so you can explain what we've got.
Josh: I know where I'm going to start, but Oreos, and then there's Chinese or Asian writing on it, looks like.
George: Yeah, so I reckon they were for Chinese New Year. Yeah, because they're on special and they just—
Josh: you just got Oreos.
George: It's just a tin of Oreos.
Tommy: Tin of Oreos.
Josh: Oh, it's 2020. Yeah, I get it.
Tommy: They're vegan. Oh, a lot of plastic.
Mason: Did you look?
Josh: You're an absolute monster. Yeah, you've got Oreos inside of Yeah, plastic.
Tommy: I mean, they're perfect. Here you go, sweetie. These are great. Yeah, they're mini. They should be free. Sevs. Jesus Christ. No, that was, that was your problem. That was me. Just do it. Uh, there we go. And one for Dodge. Oh, and we're throwing them. Bree, did you want one? Yeah, hang on, that one's already broken.
Mason: Hang on.
Tommy: Did you say she already took one?
Jess: Bree, if she wanted one.
Tommy: Yeah.
Jess: Is she upstairs?
Tommy: No, she was just there. She's watching. Yeah, I think she probably needs to go to the toilet. Do you need to go to the toilet? You're all good.
Wayne: Okay, great.
Tommy: Um, yeah, 2020, the original. I reckon you're right, Dodge.
George: I didn't realise they were vegan.
Mason: Yeah, what?
Josh: Oh yeah, Oreos are vegan. Yeah, I did hear that.
George: I had no idea.
Josh: I mean, so what, they are processed to the shit house, so it's not like a milky thing inside.
Tommy: Yeah, a lot of, um, do you reckon these are better than the Arnotts? Sort of chocolate. Yeah, Arnotts do them. What do you think, sweetie? Do you know that?
Mason: I don't tend to do them.
Tommy: Yeah, no, the Oreo. But do you know the, you know, the Arnotts Allsorts?
Mason: Yeah, the chocolate creams.
Tommy: Yeah. Do you think the chocolate cream is better than an Oreo?
Mason: I've always preferred Oreos.
George: Oh, you really? You get two in the pack.
Josh: Yeah, mate.
Tommy: So good.
Josh: Uh, we really need to get some wine or something for later on, don't we, George?
George: For the cheese.
Tommy: Is it hummus? Are we really sticking with the nickname Dodge? Is that what we're—
Josh: I like it, Dodge.
Tommy: Dodge.
Josh: Yeah, you got anything better?
Tommy: No. Can I just point out that Rain Man went to a festival a week ago and he still got the wristband on?
Wayne: 4 days, back on Tuesday.
George: Golda Plains?
Wayne: Um, what's it?
Josh: Pitch?
Wayne: Pitch.
Josh: Pitch Festival. He was glamping. You're saying that because of the— yeah, someone was infected. Yeah, someone was infected.
Wayne: I avoided that.
Tommy: And so what's the deal? What's your thoughts on sort of keeping it on? How long are we going to see it for?
Wayne: I reckon now I've had the pushback, maybe when I get home now.
Tommy: So what's the—
Josh: Enough bullying.
Tommy: Have you had any? Because it was the first thing I saw. I was like, oh yeah, you went to the festival.
Mason: Yeah.
Wayne: To be honest, you're the first people I've seen since the festival.
Josh: You've been sleeping.
Wayne: He's been quarantined.
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: Quarantined.
Wayne: Self-quarantined.
Tommy: Yeah. Uh, what was the festival like? What's, what's the deal?
Wayne: It was good. Glamping was good. Showers, backstage access, toilets.
Tommy: What are you doing backstage?
Josh: Yeah, what did it give you?
Wayne: Just, uh, just looking, waving at the crowd kind of thing.
Tommy: You'd be next to the DJs, just feeling superior.
Josh: Yeah, I like it.
Wayne: That's why I'm keeping it on.
Tommy: Any info? Is that— so that's the VIP? Did you have to wear a lanyard or something as well?
Wayne: No, no, just the pink.
George: It says guest on it.
Wayne: Yeah.
Tommy: Oh really?
George: Yeah, that's cool.
Josh: Uh, watched the movie last night, um Dodge's favourite film. Although my wife asked him, have you seen this film? The Big— I think it's The Big Sick. Yeah, is it The Big Sick? Yeah. And he's like, oh no, what's that about? And then she told him, she's like, oh, I know that, that's my favourite film. So Dodge forgot the name of the film, which is his favourite film, until my wife described the film. But she hadn't even watched it, and then we watched it last night. One of those ones I didn't— I didn't want to watch it, and I didn't want to watch it because I knew it was emotional.
Tommy: It is. I know the film, it's a good film.
Wayne: It's a good film.
George: It is.
Tommy: It's got a comedian in it.
Josh: That's right.
Jess: Kumail.
Josh: Yeah, Kumail. It's a true storey about a guy who meets a girl at one of his stand-up gigs, and then they fall in love and she becomes sick, but they kind of break up before she gets sick, and then he's there while she's in a coma. And so it's like, it's— if you feel like me, like, I— it's almost like I avoid where I know I'll get emotional. It's because I don't want to feel that.
Tommy: I was like, there's too much going on in the world, don't need that negativity.
Josh: But then I watched it and I was like, that actually felt kind of good. Like just having a bit of a cry, you know? Yeah.
Tommy: How far in until you start crying?
Josh: Oh, when, when, when she gets ill. I mean, towards the end.
Tommy: Do you feel yourself holding back or you just—
Josh: Oh, 100%. And then, and then like you could really just, you know, lean into a sulk, couldn't you?
Tommy: Well, the annoying thing is Brie points out any time, like if I do it, it's like she knows, like she's just like, just she stops watching the movie. Keep going.
Josh: And Amy was so annoyed with me because I was like, oh, let's not keep doing— like, I was really pushing back until it sort of got me. And I knew it was going to be a good film, and so she was pissed. And then I lent into it, and then we're both sort of holding each other by the end of it. When was the last time you cried, sweetie?
Mason: Last time I cried, it was actually probably on a flight watching a movie. It was The Art of Driving in the Rain.
Tommy: The Art of Drive— is that a TAC commercial?
Mason: No, it's a racing driver. He gets a dog as a pup and it's narrated by Kevin Costner as the dog's voice. And he was just telling the story. The guy gets married, the wife gets cancer and she dies and they've got a young daughter. And it was, yeah, when the wife was going through the cancer, it sort of, yeah, it was on the plane trying to hold back crying.
George: Yeah.
Josh: There's something about the cancer ones that I don't like. This one, she's in a coma and it's nothing relating to cancer. So if you're the same with me, like, I just can't, I can't do it.
Tommy: You lost me at talking dog, to be honest.
Josh: I wouldn't, You had me driving in the rain.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And lost me a dog.
Tommy: Well, the talking dog bit, it feels like you can always suspend— Well, you have to suspend disbelief.
Mason: Well, the talking dog was actually the voiceover.
Tommy: Sure. So you never actually saw the dog talking?
Mason: No, you just— It'd be— You'd see stuff and it was the dog narrating the story.
Tommy: Okay. So the dog's a professional voiceover artist. I mean, it's funny. Like, I actually— I might do that tonight. Watch one of those Uh, we've just been joined. Is that, is that Grace in the corner?
Josh: Okay, it is Grace.
Tommy: Hi Grace. I love that Grace on Zoom. The funny thing is Grace took like 15, do you reckon 15, 15 minutes of like getting ready, putting clothes on?
Josh: She's laughing, so that looks like a yep. Yeah, but because it just had her name there before, she's saying nope. No, that's right.
Tommy: Appreciate it, Grace. Um, yeah, no, I, those, those dog movies, that was a really big— you right there? The crunching, it's quite, quite loud. The, um, no, the dog movies. Uh, Beethoven. Anyone remember Beethoven?
Wayne: Yeah.
Josh: What about it, mate?
Mason: Oh, we all remember it.
Tommy: It's a good— it was a great film. No, you didn't like it?
Josh: Yeah, but do you want us to sort of— well, no, I just feel like, look, the cinematography around—
Tommy: I just feel like I watched it a bunch and we don't really see talking dog films anymore.
Josh: 101 Dalmatians.
Tommy: Were they talking though?
Josh: No, not talking, but just lots of Dalmatians. I had a Dalmatian as a kid, so I was really into it.
Jess: Yeah, we used to sing that, the 101 Dalmatians. That used to be what we'd sing for the New Zealand national anthem.
Josh: Oh, it hasn't yet.
Jess: I've literally have no idea.
Josh: Can you look up the words and start singing it for us?
Tommy: Wait, say that again. So you used to do the New Zealand national anthem?
Jess: Yes, because I did one year of— it would have been grade zero, so prep. In New Zealand.
Josh: They call it grade zero.
Jess: Yeah, I think so. Okay. And anyway, I remember, I don't know if everyone sang it or maybe it was just me, but there was definitely 101 Dalmatians in the tune of the New Zealand national anthem.
Josh: Oh, the tune. Okay.
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: Sort of, I guess it's sort of hard to do again. I mean, what is that? How does the New Zealand?
Jess: I have no idea.
Tommy: Happy birthday. Does anyone else?
Josh: Yeah, no, but there's happy birthday. Isn't happy birthday the same tune as a bunch of other things? Look it up too.
Tommy: Well, I know there's like a bunch of copyright stuff with—
Josh: There's another classic tune that is a whole bunch of songs. There's a few songs you can just put the words in and it's the same.
George: Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, I think.
Josh: Yeah, that's it.
George: Yeah.
Tommy: I don't know what I was listening to the other day, but they released how old Shrek is.
Josh: As in the green monster, the made-up monster. And you go around that content?
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: So apparently in the new musical, the Shrek the Musical, it's just released in Melbourne.
Tommy: Yeah, I think he's 20— 28 or 27.
Josh: As in the character who's playing?
Tommy: No, no, no. Who plays Shrek?
Josh: Well, in the movie, yes, Mike Myers. Oh, that's right, in the film.
Tommy: Yeah, but then in real life, no, like as in he was 27 in the film, like the cat, like they had a, you know, an age for him.
Josh: That's fine. Yeah, that is a bit weird.
Tommy: Wayne, did you ever, um, did you get into Lassie? No, never got into Lassie.
Mason: No, Rin Tin Tin.
Tommy: Rin Tin Tin. Rin Tin Tin.
Mason: That'd be well before your visit.
Josh: Is that Tintin?
Tommy: Is that Tintin?
Josh: The prequel to Tintin?
Mason: No, no. Rin Tin Tin was another series like Lassie, but it was a different breed of dog, and he worked with, I think, the American Army or something like that.
Josh: Was it as useless as Lassie?
Tommy: Oh, yeah.
Josh: Lassie dogs, look, if you kicked a Lassie dog, it would crumble. And a Whippet.
Wayne: Well, don't kiss it.
Tommy: We don't promote kicking dogs.
Josh: When's it okay to kick a dog?
Tommy: I think if you're being— I thought about the other day.
Jess: Yeah.
Wayne: If you're—
Tommy: if they're coming up to you and you feel threatened.
Josh: I'd have— If a dog was on my son, there would be no problem doing a drop punt.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Like you'd have to.
George: It's—
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: You know, the— It's the hierarchy of beings, humans, dogs.
Tommy: Well, I think a lot of people would argue that dogs are— It's a huge debate.
Josh: George and I were looking at on Reddit this morning. And we saw a monkey hole in Thailand. Just a town has just been infested by monkeys that are hungry because tourists haven't been feeding the monkeys.
George: Really?
Josh: And so, it's just, it's bedlam. They're just running into shops and they're just, they're looting.
Tommy: What about the ape? Monkeys are looting. Did you see the ape or whatever that was patting the baby tiger?
Wayne: No.
Tommy: Or baby lion. I always get them confused. Yeah.
Josh: I mean, it was, it's one of my favourite things looking at like unusual friendships between animals.
Tommy: Like us.
Josh: Seriously, what am I if I'm an animal?
Tommy: I think that you're the monkey.
Josh: Yeah, and what are you?
Tommy: And I'm the, um, I don't know, tortoise. Tortoise? You reckon I'm a tortoise?
Jess: I reckon I'm, um, is that because they fuck lots?
Josh: Yeah, but are really slow.
Tommy: That was '97 with that joke, guys, um, just if you wanted to know. The, um, is that actually true that turtles have a lot of sex, or did we make that up?
Jess: I think we made that up.
Josh: It's very slow sex.
Jess: You've seen the, um You've seen the video of that little one.
Tommy: Oh, that's right, of the turtle or whatever. Um, no, I don't know.
Josh: Yeah, we confirm, is a tortoise a sexual predator?
Tommy: Yeah, well, I don't know if any animal is a sexual predator. Yeah, fuck, I don't— Yeah, I wonder what the— Yeah, aren't humans like some of the only animals that you like use for pleasure?
Josh: Yeah, and dolphins.
Mason: Bonobos as well. Which? Bonobos.
Tommy: Bonobos.
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: I like the way you say it. Bonobos, you fucking idiot.
Josh: So what are you? Are you a tortoise? Is that the animal you're from?
Tommy: No, no, no. I think I'm like, in all seriousness, I'm a koala.
Josh: I, to be honest, koalas, I think, are severely overrated.
Tommy: How do they get up the tree? That's the only thing I'd be concerned about.
Josh: Yeah, they climb, mate.
Tommy: That's—
Josh: they've been doing that. But the koalas, Like, I think it— I mean, they had some hardship over the summer, but, um, to be honest, it's very like, uh, I'm so sorry, Grace.
Tommy: Grace is like, this is the last time. No, but cancelled.
Josh: I think it's—
Tommy: it's on the phone.
Josh: He's like, yeah, he's calling the PR department. Yeah, 131444, Bastian's, uh, emergency comms team. No, I'm not into them. They look cute, right? Koalas look cute. But they're savage.
Tommy: Well, I think that that's the—
Josh: Long fingernails like a, you know, they're cute as a bear, as like a teddy bear. Like a teddy bear.
Tommy: You know, I know the song.
Josh: What is it?
Tommy: What is it? Please don't call me a koala bear.
George: Really?
Tommy: Because I'm not a bear at all.
Josh: Is that— Did you make that up?
Wayne: No.
Tommy: Do you think I would be able to make up something like that?
Josh: Hang on.
George: Hang on.
Josh: They're not a bear.
Tommy: Can you read the rest of the lyrics as facts? Read them out as facts, Mason.
Jess: This website's called moron.nl.
Tommy: Great. .nl, I believe, is Netherlands, Dutch. Anyway, go.
Jess: Yeah, so please don't call me a koala bear because I'm not a koala bear at all. Please don't call me a koala bear, it's driving me up the wall. If your name was Tom and everyone called you Dick, perhaps you would understand why I'm sick, sick, sick. I'm simply a koala and I want the name to stick, so please don't call me a koala bear.
Tommy: I don't remember those extra lyrics, the Tom and stuff.
George: Yeah, yeah.
Tommy: Uh, Wayne, are you an animal lover?
Mason: Uh, yeah, sort of. I love wombats.
Tommy: Oh, you're like specifically just that breed? Yeah, just the animal.
Mason: Yeah, it was my nickname all through high school and through the army as well.
Josh: My mum's classic. She's like, a wombat eats roots and leaves.
Mason: That's how I got it.
Tommy: Really? Eats roots and leaves. That's great.
Josh: I'm so glad I learned that from my mum.
Tommy: What is it?
Josh: Eats roots and leaves.
Tommy: That's funny.
Josh: Roots and leaves is what wombats eat.
Wayne: Yeah.
Josh: Eats roots and leaves.
Tommy: That's very funny. And like, how often are you actually seeing wombats? Like, when was the last time you saw a wombat?
Mason: Last time I saw a wombat was probably when I took the kids to the zoo.
Tommy: Okay. So, zoos. How do we feel about zoos in 2020?
Josh: Depends on what's in them.
Mason: They serve a purpose.
Tommy: Yeah.
Mason: Yeah. A lot of them are working on conservation programs.
Josh: So, sanctuaries like Healesville Sanctuary.
Tommy: It's in the name.
Josh: Yeah. I mean, it is.
Tommy: Sounds fine.
Josh: It's pretty phenomenal that you can get, that there is a tiger within 5 kilometres from here.
Mason: Yeah, really?
Josh: Like when you think within 10 metres there's a couple of wombats in this room. But no, I mean, then pandas and shit are in zoos. How— well, can we find out what animals are in Melbourne Zoo at the moment?
Tommy: Well, there was also, um, uh, Ben Fordham was texting me because all of the, uh, there was some apes or whatever in the, um, walking around Sydney.
Josh: Oh yeah, I was up there.
Tommy: Yeah, he was pumped about it. He had like so much—
Mason: apes walking around Sydney.
Josh: Yeah, that's scary, dude.
George: Escaped from like a science thing, didn't they?
Josh: Spotted in Parramatta.
Mason: Yeah, it was some research facility where they were being— had testing and they were there to do a vasectomy on the male and he got out.
Tommy: That's great.
Josh: So, there's the storey that, what do you call it? What's that? The cougar, like the cat.
Tommy: The black cat.
Josh: Yeah, the black cat escaped the circus in Mansfield 60, 70 years ago. And then it went up into the hills and then has reproduced. And so, there's like the myth of the big black cougar.
Tommy: I reckon I've seen it. You reckon you've seen it? Really?
Josh: All right, how much MDMA did you have?
Tommy: It wasn't a bitch.
Wayne: Um, now we were down the coast like near Warrnambool and we were driving and it was like kind of, um, you know, dusk, and 10 metres in front of us this huge cat just walked, like black thing, like, like a bit taller than that couch. Yeah, just shot past us and disappeared into the bush.
George: Yeah.
Wayne: And it was like, it wasn't a cat, like it was big.
Josh: Who saw it?
Wayne: Me and Dani, my girlfriend.
Tommy: Okay.
Josh: Well, until I met her, we cannot confirm the story.
Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I'm quite a jumpy guy, like, um, like that, that idea of seeing an animal would scare me. But even like when we were like coming to work today, I looked, uh, you were talking '97, you had a guy follow you.
Jess: Oh yeah, that's why. I mean, I had a nightmare on the bus as well. Just the bus driver told me off for being on the phone.
Josh: What's the rule? Can we find out?
Jess: You're allowed on the phone, definitely.
Josh: Did you just— you're not driving the bus or it's on speaker?
Jess: No, no, AirPods.
George: AirPods.
Tommy: How loud do you think you were? Just talk. How loud do you think? What were you saying as well when you got told off?
Jess: What was I saying?
Tommy: Um, in the voice.
Jess: Oh yeah, no, our Aussie number's not sending text messages to, um, people.
Tommy: And then what happened?
Jess: And then he stopped the bus.
Mason: So we—
Jess: because— so he picked me up and I was behind the line.
Tommy: He picked you up?
Jess: No, as in, he came over to the bus stop, I got on the bus.
Wayne: Oh yes.
Jess: And I walked in, tapped the Myki, and got behind the line because there's a line that you're not meant to go past.
Tommy: And so you're standing?
Jess: So I stood behind the line and then— and then I was talking on the phone or whatever.
Tommy: Were you already on the phone when you got on the bus?
Jess: I walked on the bus with Did you tell the person?
Tommy: You say, hey, I'm just getting on a bus.
Jess: I'm just— I said, I'm just commuting to work. And so I got on the bus and then, um, he made a comment and I didn't really hear it, so I just sort of like moved back a little bit because it was directed at me. I didn't, didn't know what he was saying. And then, and then probably maybe 20 seconds later, he stops the bus on the freeway. We didn't sped up completely, it was probably like 40k an hour, and he stopped and then he And then he turned around and he told me to move backwards to stop distracting him.
Tommy: And what did you say? I just moved back. Okay, sure. I mean, what else am I going to say?
Josh: Fuck off.
Tommy: How many— what do you think the vibe was around you? What do you think people were thinking?
Mason: I was on the phone.
Tommy: And so anyway, you had that ordeal. Yeah. And then you're walking to work. Yeah. And you try FaceTiming me. Yeah. I was just jumping into the shower, so I decided not to answer the FaceTime.
Wayne: Yeah.
Tommy: I said, what's up?
Jess: Yeah, well, I mean, so I was— I got off the bus and I was walking to the office, and this was along Cottle Street, and there was this bloke coming towards me. He's on a scooter. He was— it looked like he was going to work, sort of like— he was tidy.
Tommy: Like, it was tidy.
Jess: He was tidy. Yeah, he didn't look like he didn't look like a junkie.
Tommy: He's tidy. You're tired. Oh geez.
Jess: Yeah, you're tired.
Tommy: Oh yeah, real tight. Really? That's hurtful. You don't think it's as tidy? Oh yeah, I was at the club. Fuck, there's some tidy people there. Real tidy. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, he's fucking tidy.
Jess: Yeah. Anyway, so he comes up to me and he says something, but I got my AirPods in.
Tommy: Fuck, these AirPods are causing a lot of grief, aren't they? Were you on the phone or you off the phone?
Jess: No, I was off the phone. I was messaging you back.
Tommy: Okay, sure.
Jess: And but I had my AirPods in, so I missed what he said. And so I took one out and I stopped. And then, and then he's like, oh, um, it's a beautiful shirt, beautiful, beautiful pants, and beautiful smile you have. I was like, oh Thank you. And, and so then I'm just like, okay, and I put my AirPod back in and I kept walking.
Josh: And then was he on his scooter just talking to you?
Jess: Hey, no, literally, literally.
Tommy: What sort of scooter?
Jess: Electric scooter, like, don't know, just a normal electric scooter.
Tommy: Boosted Board, by the way. Did you hear that?
Jess: Uh, what happened? Oh, they went under. Yeah, yeah.
Josh: Anyway, so how many free boards to Casey Neistat?
Wayne: Yeah, exactly.
Jess: It was about 20 seconds later I turned into the alleyway to get to cut to our street and get to the office. And then he comes zipping back on his electric scooter and he's like, oh, sorry for being so forward, but I just thought you had beautiful hair and a beautiful smile. I was like, okay, this is getting weird. And I'm only like 50 metres from the office and he just keeps asking more and more questions.
Tommy: What was he asking?
Jess: Um, where are you going? I'm just like, on my way to work. He's like, oh great, what do you do for work?
Tommy: And I was like, video stuff.
Jess: And then he's like, 'Oh, that kind of video stuff.' And I was like, 'No, no, no, no, not that, no.' And he's like, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do, I like to do that video stuff as well.' Porn.
Wayne: Yeah.
Jess: And then, and then I got to the office and, and he said, 'Have a nice day.' Yeah.
Josh: And then Dodge and I ran into him.
Wayne: Yeah.
George: And he offered us some Gaytime wrappers.
Josh: He tried to offer some Gaytime to Mr. Nice Guy, but he legit had a Gaytime wrapper in his hand, the ice cream. So you guys want a gaze? You guys want this?
Tommy: And so do we think he was tweaked or was he just—
Josh: he looked like he'd been at Golden Plains. Was he still coming down?
Tommy: He didn't have a wristband, did he? Hadn't been to— what is it called? Pick? He was off his pitch.
Josh: He was off his— yeah, he was not—
Tommy: he was not— still tidy.
Josh: Yeah, ice can— you can be tidy on ice. Can definitely. Yeah, definitely.
Tommy: For the first little bit.
Josh: Depends if like a full-blown ice junkie, no. But like, I knew a guy who used to, um, have a fam— he had a family and he had a full-time job, and he'd say to me, I would smoke a gramme of ice in the day. And then he would—
Mason: is that a lot of ice?
Josh: Yeah, it's a shitload. It's like $300-400 worth of ice. And it really— it would— a day, it would ruin us.
Tommy: Not very healthy though.
Josh: If you smoked that right now, you would have a heart attack. Anyway, he said, I used to close, uh, we get into bed, him and his wife, and he would— he— the light would go off and his eyes would just be open and he'd just watch the sunrise. Like, he'd be in bed just wide awake and then go and get another bag of ice in the morning and drive to work smoking a pipe. Like, it's full-on. But he kept the job for a long time. Like, he never fell into being some junkie that's wandering around Abbotsford. Like, he kept a job, which is— yeah, I mean, that you can only do so much.
Tommy: That's just an integration for ice. If you use the coupon code TDTS at checkout, you get 50% off your first month. No, um, but I am like it. So that— the idea of that guy would have spooked me a little bit because I'm very into security. And even you were picking up that you thought that when you and I were walking before, there was a guy who was getting up. He had like a, um, like luggage. He's, he's a regular at Woolworths. He normally puts out a sign and you've seen him.
Mason: Why?
Tommy: He's got like— he's, um He loves iced coffee.
Josh: Yeah, he's always fucking— The cops were, we thought, harassing him, and then Dodge and I were in Coles and they're buying him an iced coffee.
Tommy: Oh, that's nice.
Josh: It was really lovely. Um, that was obnoxious, wasn't it?
George: Yeah, it was really—
Tommy: that's fine. But no, but you know, you thought that I sort of moved my body, which I just—
Josh: Your body language was basically said, you're homeless, get the fuck away from me.
Tommy: It's just the thing. No, it was just—
Josh: It was over, like It was like fully closing off, like, like he was about to lunge at you, but the poor guy was just wheeling his little—
Tommy: Well, I was just doing it with every— like with this, all this corona shit, just any walking past anyone. Like when we're going past the bus stop, I would go—
Josh: would you? Like the hospital stuff, like when you blow out, or when you go past the cemetery, you'd hold your breath.
Tommy: Remember that back in the day? I never walked past cemetery.
George: No, I don't.
Josh: Well, you don't walk—
Tommy: there's not really many in the burbs. What do you know? I feel like you'd know stuff about— what do you know?
Josh: There's one in Caulfield, there's one on Dandenong Road, there's one in Carlton here.
Tommy: They're everywhere, dude.
Josh: What, what, Glenferry? What does—
George: like, just the way he was explaining it, so they're everywhere.
Josh: He's saying there's not many, but there's— they're everywhere.
Jess: There's one in Kew.
Josh: Do we mention that? One in Kew.
Tommy: Do you know about San Francisco?
Josh: And, uh, sorry, tell you where there is one. Big market. Queen Victoria Market is a cemetery. They just built a market on top of it.
Wayne: Really?
Josh: Look it up.
Tommy: When was it a cemetery?
Josh: Yeah, they do ghost tours through the Queen Vic Market at night. I don't know, I was looking into this years ago when I went on a ghost tour.
Tommy: San Francisco?
Josh: I went on a— sorry, I went on a ghost tour. I ended up knowing the guy who was running the ghost tour. He worked at the radio station. He was— nah. He ended up doing voiceover stuff.
Tommy: Who was it?
Josh: You'd know him, Arthur.
Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, he now—
Josh: flat out trying to pick up this girl.
Tommy: Perfect.
Josh: On the Ghost tour, like as the guy, the confident person running the tour. It was just, you know, when— have you ever been around someone trying to pick up someone, you're just like, I know exactly what you're doing. Yeah, I feel like that.
Tommy: I can't handle it when that's happening.
Josh: Yeah, it's, it's so cringe.
Tommy: Arthur's lovely though.
Josh: Oh, it was cringe, but Arthur's lovely.
Tommy: I wonder if he does tours for Great Ocean Road.
Josh: Oh, he does. So he's still in the tour business.
Tommy: Yeah, still the biggest pickup sort of guy. I mean, yeah, you've probably got a script though. Yeah, anyway, now what are you gonna say?
Josh: Oh, in that movie The Big Sick, the comedian has like a pickup line. Remember how he's like riding on a piece of He's writing on a napkin.
Tommy: George, what is it?
Josh: It's like, here's your name, here's your name in Pakistani or something, you know.
George: Yeah.
Jess: Oh, was that— I thought the pickup line was the Uber driver stuff.
Josh: He's an Uber driver too. Yeah, but did you watch the film?
Jess: Yeah, I did.
Josh: Because they come back. So the pickup line that he uses on the girl that he ends up marrying, we go through the whole film. Yeah, he uses it later on when they've broken up.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And then has sex with another girl. Oh yeah, you know, but he uses the same pickup line. So there is, there is a bunch that Mason should look into.
Jess: Pick up lines.
Wayne: Yeah, yeah.
Jess: Or become an Uber driver.
Tommy: Yeah, that could be fun.
Josh: Um, yeah.
Tommy: Uh, Wayne, are you a Netflix watcher? Do you watch Netflix?
Mason: Uh, only just started.
Tommy: What do you think of the collection?
Josh: What it—
Tommy: like, what's available on there? Is anything interesting?
Mason: No, I binge-watched, um, The Mandalorian.
Tommy: Yeah, what's that about?
Mason: Uh, Star Wars spin-off. Oh yeah. So yeah. Oh, that— my oldest daughter's just gone Netflix crazy. Yeah, yeah, she's trying to get me into it.
Jess: But The Mandalorian was good though.
Mason: It was, yeah.
Josh: You watch that too, Seth?
Jess: Yeah, yeah, it's great.
Tommy: And so was it all action? I've never watched Star Wars.
Jess: So instead of green screens, they got massive like 20-meter TVs, like ticker, like ticker TVs, just Aaron Young just dialling it all in. But yeah, they did, they did all the background and the lighting using TVs.
Tommy: It's cool. That's nice.
Jess: Blahj posted a video on Facebook about it.
George: Did he?
Tommy: I watched Kath and Kim.
George: Oh, good.
Tommy: Yeah.
George: How good is it?
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Do you know they used to say Fountain Gate? You know, they say Fountain Lakes now. At the start.
Josh: Who says Fountain Lakes?
Tommy: They started like at this. I didn't realise, but at the start they said Fountain Gate. But then after a while, like, I, I remember as a kid because like we used to go to Fountain Gate, they changed it to Fountain Lakes.
Josh: And in real life they changed it.
Tommy: No, Fountain Gate is called Fountain Gate. In the show they start calling it Fountain Lakes. Can you find out trivia on that, Sev? Because I feel like maybe for legal reasons they, they changed the name potentially. But, but, you know, Kath— Bree was saying Kath from Kath and Kim, like, quite attractive.
George: Jane Turner. Yeah, maybe. Or is that Kim?
Josh: That sounds like you fucking know, mate.
George: Yeah.
Tommy: And, and yeah, well, you just don't think when you think of Kath, you didn't think like attractive. You thought like Kath is like, you know, the, like she's the, the rough. They're all, yeah, they're all a bit rough.
Josh: It's a good.
Wayne: Yeah.
George: And they're like the same age, but she's her mum.
Tommy: Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
George: I've just realised something. Did I, was Wayne the guy that I cracked it at with the 2020 decade?
Mason: This is, this is This is it.
Tommy: This is— yeah, here we go. Stitch up.
Josh: Yeah, wombat V. What are you, Dodge?
Tommy: You're a little, you're a little— sorry about that. So, no, let's go through it. So, Wayne, what do you remember? What was the— what do you remember?
Josh: Can you set it up for us? Give us some context, Wayne.
Mason: Oh shit. I'm trying to remember what the conversation was. You were talking about the new decade with 2020 kicking in, and I just pointed out that from a mathematical and calendar perspective, A year ending in zero is the end of a 10-year period.
Tommy: And then George blew up pretty quickly. So, what do you think it is, Dodge?
George: Well, because I thought like 2020, new decade, like we're in the 20s, you know, we're out of the teens, we're going 20s, 30s. But he was taking it all the way back to 1901, which I've realised he's right.
Josh: So, a decade consists of how many years?
Mason: 10 years.
Josh: Okay.
George: But it's from— so a century is from 1901, January 1st, 1901 to 31st of December, 1999.
Mason: No, no. Yeah, a century.
George: A century. Yeah.
Josh: Oh my God, there's gonna be a punchline.
Tommy: I'm loving this banter.
Wayne: I am.
Tommy: Grace is loving the banter too, I can tell.
George: So yeah, I was pretty quick to, to blow up, but yeah, you are right.
Tommy: Oh, that's good.
Mason: I'm glad we said all that.
Josh: This is the nicest thing I've ever heard.
Tommy: They both said said each other's right. Isn't that nice?
Josh: Are you— George is just right for apologizing.
Tommy: That's what I'm saying.
Josh: And yeah, did people use this in their marketing material? Like, were people saying the start of the new decade?
Mason: Yeah, so 2020, the start of the new decade.
George: It is technically.
Tommy: No. Well, have you guys switched?
Josh: Yeah, but when do people— so when can we start saying— when can we say we're in the new decade?
George: Well, I mean, well, this is the thing. You can say you're in the '20s now, but if you're going to be really technical and go back to the start of time, then we're still currently in the last decade. It's from 2011 to 2020.
Tommy: Sure. Because you need to—
Josh: So 2021 is the new—
Tommy: You're counting 10 years.
Mason: Yeah, it was like with the millennium bug, the Y2K. So they were saying that the year 2000 was the start of a new millennium. Well, as Dodge just pointed out, first year of the millennium was year 1. Last year of the millennium was year 1000. So, the 2000 was the last year. But people, as you said, yeah, if you're referring to a decade as the '20s, then it's year 20 through 29.
Tommy: Well, Rain Man Rory, the data analyst, what do you think about this?
Josh: Well, we were having this conversation. Come into your mic, please.
Wayne: Trying to work out, like, the 3 episodes from 6:29 to 6: 32. It's the same kind of thing. You, you, 6/29 to 6/32 is 4 episodes. So, 3 episodes is 6/30, 6/31, 6/32. So, it's like the same kind of, um.
Josh: Because you could look at the 6. Yeah.
Wayne: Because you, you don't, the 6/30 is a counts as well. So, in the year 2000.
Tommy: We're losing Grace. We're losing Harry as well. Harry's gone.
George: Yeah. A good way to, a good way to think of it about it, which was what Wayne got me with, was if you go January 1st to January 10th, that's— oh, hang on, that's 10 days.
Josh: That's 10 days.
George: Yeah. So you can't go January 0th. There's no such thing as January 0th.
Tommy: Sure. And that's why prep and that whole talk about like grade zero is a little bit confusing, isn't it?
Mason: Yeah, sure.
Josh: Well, in Sydney, New South Wales, they don't call it prep.
Tommy: What do they call it?
Josh: I think it's like preschool.
Tommy: What's it like? The US is pretty fucked up the way they do things. So they like, whether they've got like elementary—
Josh: which area?
Tommy: No, they've got like all the, um, middle school, elementary school, high school sometimes.
Josh: Yeah, well, I mean, we're thinking about when, what year we send Bodhi to prep because you can—
Tommy: next year?
Josh: Well, next year he would be in prep in 4. No, so that's not going to happen. So, but then the following year he would start prep when he's 5, when he's 4 still and just turned 5. And so there's a lot of thought that you hold off another year. So you have him at preschool or whatever that version is here before you send him. He'll start prep when he's 5 and that, and then he'll turn 6 the month that he started prep. When did you send your girls to?
Tommy: You got 2 girls?
Mason: Yeah, Allison, who's the oldest, was born in February. So she's actually— Yeah, she's the youngest. In her age level.
Josh: Yeah.
Jess: So, yeah.
Josh: So that would be if I sent Bodhi to prep in when he's 4 years of age. So young.
Mason: So she turned 5, I think, like you're saying, Bodhi will be starting prep. Prep.
Josh: Yeah.
Mason: Whereas Zoe, the youngest one, her birthday's in August. So she was, just fell into the normal pattern of things.
Tommy: And so this is interesting because when it comes to sport, so Malcolm Gladwell wrote the book Outliers. And Alison plays footy, correct? Uh, I believe that when it comes to sport within the hockey space— I don't know that much about sport, but hockey, I'm sort of— ice hockey, you know, the books, that's what they refer to. Yeah, so they, they talk about the fact that I think it's if you are older— can you look at this up, Seb? If you are older, you basically are more likely to play professional because what they do is because they're taller or like more developed, they get more coaching time, and then the more coaching time leads to better skills and all of this shit. Which I don't know whether it's—
Josh: I mean, at this point I'm just thinking about when you can get rid of them, the kid. When the— is the kid going to be okay?
Tommy: Like, what do you reckon he'll do if you—
Josh: no, it's just development. They're just so young at 4. Like, we saw a kid this morning at the coffee shop, Dodge. That kid was in prep and he was like a 1-year-old. He was so young. Like, sending Yeah. Think about it. They're so tired. Like that first year of school, you don't get to nap. You're up all day.
Tommy: You get to nap at school now.
Josh: No, you don't.
Tommy: What school are you going to? Dead Fish. What was Dead Fish all about?
Josh: A game.
Tommy: But the idea was that you would sleep.
George: I think it's just lazy teachers.
Tommy: Yeah, we used to play so much. I was so good at Dead Fish.
Josh: I thought you are. That's your animal. Dead fish.
Tommy: Anything on the outlier stuff, Seb?
Jess: I'm on Wikipedia. It's relative age effect. Okay, it was—
Tommy: I don't know, what does it say?
Jess: Um, I'm just trying to read it.
Tommy: Read it out loud.
Jess: Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers have popularised the issue in respect of, uh, Canadian ice hockey players, European football players, and U.S. Major League Baseball players. Uh, the expected distribution of births in any month across a population correlates closely to the number of days in the month, with February being the shortest month. Having the fewest births.
Josh: Is that, uh, Bodhi's rare? He's a left-handy too and born in Feb.
Jess: The relative, uh, age effect is illustrated in the second graph.
Josh: Um, it's saying people born in September to December are more likely to— if you go start school in this time, more likely to be successful in the sport. I mean, it's— yeah, it's—
Tommy: I guess you just—
Jess: oh, here you go.
Tommy: I think this is riveting. No, he just tilted his head.
Jess: Yeah, because I'm trying to just interpret. No, it's too hard. It's, it's, yeah, we actually— you need to give this to, uh, Rain Man.
Tommy: I just do a bit of interpret this. You can't what?
Jess: Interpret this.
Tommy: Okay, at least interpret. Do you say interpret?
Wayne: Interpret.
Tommy: That's all right.
Josh: We need to leave and sort out the beer situation because Dodge has got highly, highly likely contamination of food. That's the style he's gone for.
Tommy: Yeah, it's all very finger food. You absolute nightmare.
Josh: So we may as well share a few beers.
Tommy: Yeah, the plastic thing. Hey, didn't Chairman Rick have an idea for us regarding plastic?
Wayne: Yeah.
Jess: So Chairman Rick came to me during a maths episode You're watching MAFS? Well, no, I got home from the gym and so my family was watching MAFS.
Josh: Is that a family—
Tommy: they all watch it together?
Jess: Yeah, yeah, usually over dinner.
Tommy: What time are you eating dinner?
Jess: I'm like, no, it was— it would have been like 8 to 9 o'clock. Oh, after the gym?
Tommy: I ate Subway at 8:30.
Jess: I did see that, you were fuming.
Josh: But you were telling a story, so continue.
Tommy: No, anyway, so that was important facts.
Jess: The Dad came up with— Chairman Rick came up with the idea during maths, and he told me to wait until the ad break because it was a good tease.
Josh: He was told what was happening in the episode, uh, dinner party, um, just maths bullshit.
Jess: Yeah, I think someone— apparently someone cheated or whatever. And then anyway, it's a bit of drama.
Josh: Not this, you know, not that strong marriage. Don't shit on that marriage. No.
Jess: Anyway, so yeah, Chairman Rick's idea is to to do your normal grocery shop, film yourself and see how many items you can get without plastic. So, you're not intentionally— You're trying to find things that you'd usually shop for that wouldn't have plastic. You're not going out and buying everything that doesn't have plastic.
Tommy: So, how would we— So, this is just for Tommy and I?
Jess: Yeah, but there— But so, he wants to extend it to all of the Gronks. He reckons 500.
Tommy: He wants 500 Gronks.
Jess: He wants 500 Gronks. And that'll get us on the project.
Tommy: So the idea of getting on the project, what's, what's he thinking behind that?
Jess: PR, PR, PR.
George: My old next-door neighbour is the producer, so I can—
Tommy: Oh really?
Wayne: Yeah, great.
Tommy: Who's your old neighbor?
George: Hunter.
Tommy: Oh yeah, it sounds like a producer. Is it on the hunt looking for stuff?
Josh: Yeah, yeah, I reckon they'll sniff it from a mile away, to be honest, guys. Well, what about PR whores?
Tommy: Well, you were talking about, um, wanting to do a stunt.
Josh: What was the stunt? Oh, it was when it was just— we missed the boat at it. And it was when—
Tommy: How do you feel about missing the boat? I'm sort of cool about it.
Josh: Yeah, I'm cool about it. But I called Joss and I was like, dude, we have to mock up a fight at a Woolworths or Coles over toilet paper. This is like 3 days before the viral video. I know it's going to fucking work.
Tommy: We'll wear our hoodies. I'm like, why don't we— what about if we get George to do it? That would be so good. Just fucking just wombat pulling George's head.
Josh: That'd be so good. Anyway, anyway, I reckon that's got a better chance. That had better chance of getting on.
Tommy: It's a bit— it's a little bit too radio.
Josh: It would be too stuff with the, um The radio station stuff with the TV networks trying to—
Tommy: It's very stunt-y.
Josh: It is.
Tommy: Do we feel comfortable with any stunts?
Josh: Maybe not that because— Yeah, other ones.
Tommy: Any content ideas, guys? Like things to think about over the, over the weekend? Wombat, got any content ideas? Things?
Jess: Sweetie or Wombat? Yeah.
Tommy: What do you— Sweet Wombat?
Mason: Sweet Wombat.
Tommy: I prefer Wombat. Sweetie, just like— It's like when Happy Harry calls me Daddy. I can't do it anymore. Because it started off as a joke of dad, and then he just fucking started calling me daddy all the time. And then Bree's like, did you tell him to call you that? I'm like, fuck no, no, it's not a thing. Um, no. Any, any ideas, guys? Any, anything?
George: I got a club idea.
Tommy: Oh yeah, great. I've got a— mate, thank you for bringing it up. Go on.
George: Oh yeah, um, book club. Footy tipping club.
Josh: Oh, that could be postponed based on the coronavirus.
George: I don't like footy, but it's a good way to go every week. Something happens. Yeah, it turned into a football podcast.
Jess: Good benchmark.
Josh: What happens is some asshole that hates football— actually, probably be you— ends up winning, like literally just choosing. My wife doesn't watch football and 2 weeks in a row got, uh, 8 out of 9, which is huge.
Tommy: I could get around that. How do we— what was that?
Josh: Just getting the tips in. Anyway, before we finish up, you want to, um, flag your thing for tomorrow? That you're running?
Tommy: The book club. What time you reckon?
Jess: 11? Dude, no, no, actually we got feedback for the afternoon. Up to you.
Tommy: What does everyone else think? It's your club, Grace. Are you gonna come to the book club? Can you write into 97 what time you'd like?
Jess: Yeah.
Tommy: Um, I think, uh, I think 11, either 11 or 3. Do you reckon I just do it from home? Yeah, and so we'll do the Zoom call thing.
Josh: Ah, easy.
Jess: She hasn't read this month's book.
Tommy: No, that's all right, that's okay. Most people haven't. Um, I have.
Josh: You have?
Jess: You finished or just—
Tommy: No, no, no, because we're only halfway through the month.
Jess: I bet Callum's finished.
Tommy: Oh man, Callum's a machine.
Jess: He's an animal.
Tommy: Yeah, and so is Emma.
Jess: Yeah.
Tommy: Um, I think how's adventure?
Josh: Yeah, um, nothing. Uh, next week though, I know I've got to tell you, Bodhi knocked Your book, I think you've still got your book here that you're meant to be reading this month.
Tommy: No, I think it must be my bag.
Josh: Oh, it's the other one.
Jess: Yeah, that's the one. So every time Amy comes—
Josh: Yeah, Bodhi knocked it though and it fell out the book page. The book page.
Tommy: No, that was my last—
Jess: I actually saw Amy do that as well.
Tommy: What, really?
Josh: Purposely knocked it over?
Jess: She didn't purposefully, she just knocked it.
George: What are we—
Josh: All right, you rat. Good piece of info.
George: No, she knocked over, uh, all right, go on, go on, Dodge. She knocked time Tiny Habits, and the bookmark came out and she just put it back into a random spot. We said, oh, he won't notice.
Tommy: That's even more rad. In Tiny Habits.
Josh: Yeah, Tiny Habits.
Jess: That's your new—
Tommy: that's my book.
Josh: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Tommy: Where is it? It's in my bag. Okay.
Josh: Did you put it in today?
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Okay.
Tommy: Because I know, but it was at home.
Josh: It's been at home for days. Did you—
Tommy: a solid—
Josh: it's been at home making you feel like you're further ahead, or—
Tommy: it's very simple stuff. I'll give a tip for everyone today. Have I spoken about this on the show or no?
Jess: No.
Wayne: Okay.
Tommy: Do you want one, Wombat? Do you want to hear it? Okay. So, um, I'm glad we landed on that. It's good. Sweetie. Sweetie's funny though. Sweetie.
Josh: All right.
Tommy: Um, habits are hard, right? Um, so that's why you got to start tiny. That's the whole premise of the book. And so, uh, one of the things with habits is it's like, when do you do the new habit? Is there any new habit you're trying to start, Wombat?
Josh: Um, not leaving after you wrote.
Mason: You know, you know, I want to get into the habit of going for a ride every day.
Tommy: You want to get into the habit of going for a ride?
Wayne: Yeah.
Tommy: Okay, it's a good one. And so, uh, what, what he talks about in the book is, uh, doesn't fit how what Josh is going to say, does it? No, it does. It's almost like doing— I feel like I'm doing a magic trick and he's pulled the wrong card. No, so the thing with habits is to cement them, one of the strongest words you can think of is "after." And it's after I do this, I'll do this. Okay. And so, for instance, say if you wanted to learn to floss, want to start Do you floss much?
Mason: No.
Tommy: Okay, so you— flossing is good. I don't do it that much, only if I've had sort of steak. But, um, you should floss more. Everyone, everyone should. I haven't, no, because it's Veggie Delight.
Jess: Oh, you went— okay, so there's no sort of Veggie Delight.
Josh: I don't think that's—
Tommy: anyway, so after you brush your teeth, floss, right? So you, you're going to brush your teeth, so after that you floss. And so the point is, so if you want to ride the bike after. So after you brush your teeth, ride your bike. It's got some more nuance to it which I'm not completely across, but after, after whatever you do, that piece of advice is going to be a great day today. No, no, no, I didn't. That's what I'm meant to be doing every single day. He meant to say it's a great day, and maybe that's part of my attitude problem.
Jess: Yeah, potentially.
Josh: I mean, oh yeah, because yeah, we get a bit of feedback on Josh's attitude.
Wayne: Oh, definitely.
Josh: Yeah, that was attitude.
Jess: Definitely a lot of attitude. So Shannon left a comment on Instagram saying JJ has been so angsty lately. And so that was over the last weekend and Friday's episode. And so Rain Man Rory got Google's sentiment analysis to see if Google agrees with Shannon.
Wayne: Okay.
Josh: And so that sentiment analysis does what, Rory?
Wayne: Yeah, so it looks at everything that was said in the podcast, everything Josh said, and it'll rank it whether it was positive or negative.
Tommy: Okay.
Wayne: So, for episodes 629 to 631—
Josh: Which was Friday to Sunday, was it?
Jess: Yeah, I think including Monday as well.
Tommy: Which deck is this for?
Mason: Yeah.
Wayne: That is, you got a positivity metre of 3%, which is very low.
Josh: Is that saying the majority was negative?
Wayne: It was closer to being negative. So it was very, very— it was on the negative side of things. So to compare, you've turned it around this week. So $632,000 to $635,000, it was up near 10%, which is pretty high comparing to the other side.
George: That's 3 times high.
Wayne: Perfect.
George: Yeah.
Josh: Is this the way that it— I don't know numbers, Ray, man. It's saying 10%. Is that meaning that 80% Sorry, 90% is negative. Is that what it's saying?
Wayne: It's not saying that. It's more, it's just on a weighted scale. So, like, the highest it'll ever be will be around like 12% to 13%.
Josh: Okay, so that makes sense. So, 10% is really high.
Wayne: Yeah. Yeah. So, 10%. So, you've been pretty positive, but 3% is really low. It's never going to be zero because like there's neutral comments and all this other stuff, but 3% means that most of it was pretty negative. Pretty negative.
Josh: No, I get that. I can feel that.
Tommy: Yeah.
Jess: No, go on.
Wayne: The negativity. So, Google pulled out some of the comments. They, uh, there was some, a lot around your bad diet and, uh, Fridays.
Josh: Yeah, that was true. Yeah, we were.
Wayne: And, uh, the most negative was, uh, you're getting a bit angsty about, um, Mr. 97 sneezing. That was, that was a 90% on the rating.
Tommy: So I mean, you just have to look at the news and see, like, it's actually not that funny what was happening.
Josh: You're a futurist. You really knew.
Tommy: I think that '97's responsible for Tom Hanks.
Josh: Tom Hanks got it before he came to the country, supposedly.
Tommy: That's how big the sneezes were. Just, yeah, taking out— Yeah, go on.
Jess: By the way, Grace says she's in for April for the book club, and she's got an idea to merge the adventure club and the book club. Read an adventure book or choose your own adventure book.
Tommy: Yeah, I think that's great.
Josh: What's that guy, Levison? Yeah, he posted of the, um, we don't have bat suit but we have something.
Tommy: Oh, that's right.
Josh: Well, Levison will get around it. No, we, um, anyway, let's finish this up.
Tommy: Okay, can I just quickly say about all the books that I've just bought? Because I think that this is very relevant.
Jess: I was going to say also, did you see, um, Angelo from Venture IP? They raised $3,500 for The World's Greatest Shave.
Tommy: Oh, that's great.
Josh: That's great.
Tommy: I mean, congratulations guys.
Jess: And you can also get 50% off your first, uh, invoice on a 12-month plan if you use the code TDDS. Do they call it an invoice? Or say, I don't know, or they would even—
Tommy: yeah, they will send an invoice as well.
Josh: Company doing great things, offering great services, a bunch of shaved head people answering phones, yeah, 24 hours a day.
Tommy: Always gonna need a website.
Josh: Uh, Venture IP.
Tommy: These are the books that I've just purchased. These are all secondhand. Um, I think that this could be good, like, good stimulus for what? Adventure slash book club. When the Alps Cast Their Spell, Backpacking in Alps and how do you say that word?
Josh: Pyrenees. Pyrenees.
Tommy: Pyrenees.
Jess: Pyrenees in what, Europe?
Josh: The Pyrenees is like bike races there.
Jess: Switzerland and stuff.
Wayne: Yeah, like Italy.
Josh: Is it a part of the Tour de France, the Pyrenees? Like the section of the mountain?
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: The Walker's Guide to Outdoor Clues and Signs. The Geological Story of Yosemite National Park.
Jess: Grace is loving this, by the way.
Tommy: The Big Walks of the South, Hiking in Japan, and The Wilderness Survival Guide. And so, they're my latest books.
Josh: How much did you drop on that?
Tommy: I said to Bray, I said, under $100. And she looked at ING and she said, it was $99.78.
Josh: And Dodge got it. He got $30 on this Fat Friday. 60-something cents.
Wayne: 64.
Josh: Yeah, 64 cents.
George: Anyway, what time is the Zoom?
Josh: Yeah, so we're locking it once they find a date.
Tommy: Oh yeah, sure. What do you think Mum wants?
George: Uh, midday.
Josh: Well, can she do 11? Because Josh has got 11:03. I reckon 11. All right, because you can go for a walk, get your coffee, get prepped.
Tommy: Why can't I go to, um, you can fucking find another coffee shop.
George: Western Australia. Oh yeah, be there at 8.
Tommy: Ah, so Grace is—
Jess: that's okay, Grace is—
Josh: but Grace isn't there until next month, so okay. Yeah, vicious point she just did down the barrel of the camera.
Tommy: Yeah, okay, so now we'll do, um, we'll do 11 for this one. Yeah, and then, um, yeah, everyone, uh, even if you haven't read the book yet, if you think that you could read the book between now and the end of the month, you can still be involved. If you also want to change something in your life, if you want to build a habit like wombat riding a bike.
Josh: Emma's very intelligent.
Tommy: She brings the, um, yeah, she brings, she's the vice president.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, she's been assigned.
Tommy: No, no, that's great. Yeah, I think you can give vice presidencies. But so my thing with the book, I like the idea of, yeah, combining them. I wanted to—
Josh: it's a nice one for a month.
Tommy: Yeah, I don't know if I mentioned it, but I wanted to start another club, which Bree vetoed because she thought it was—
Josh: yeah, we already talked about that, it's bullshit. And Dave Thornton, the Explorers Club.
Tommy: Yeah, the Explorers Club. I think the Explorers Club's got a nice ring to it.
Josh: Sure. All right, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.
Tommy: All right, it's a Daily Talk Show. Uh, you can still be a VIP Gronk. You can be like Wayne, you can be like Grace, you can be like Luke and Happy Harry. He was here for a bit. Um, thedailytalkshow.com/gronks. If you sign up, uh, to be a VIP Gronk today by midnight— is that what we're saying?
Jess: Yeah, by midnight.
Tommy: Yeah, then you're cutting off.
Jess: Yeah.
Josh: You can still sign up, you just don't want to sign up today until 11:59 PM and you can still get stickers.
Tommy: Yeah, great.
Josh: Okay, but otherwise you're lost.
Tommy: Okay everyone, all right, uh, really enjoyed this one.
Josh: So, uh, yeah, I hope you did too.
Tommy: Yeah, it's a little bit harder with another— yeah, yeah, sure.
Josh: Yeah, let's wrap this up. Wrapping up for 15 minutes.
Tommy: Give us an Apple Podcast review, cheque them every day. Haven't had one in 3 weeks. All right, catch you.
Josh: Bye-bye.
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