The Gronk Squad & Listener Mail
257 episodes · 2018–2021 · 74 debates · 108 pieces of advice · 164 stories · 199 quotes
The Daily Talk Show — Australia’s daily podcast, hosted by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen — discussed the gronk squad & listener mail across 257 of its 1,022 daily episodes between 2018 and 2021. This page collects what was actually said: 199 verbatim quotes, 108 pieces of advice, 164 stories told on air, 74 on-air debates, each linked to the exact moment in the episode and on YouTube.
Where they stand
Moments where the table disagreed, straight from the transcripts.
Feels a responsibility to be honest about struggles since the show is meant to show 'light and shade,' even though sharing the vulnerability triggers some unwanted advice-giving from listeners.
Agrees but adds that not everyone has an outlet to communicate struggles, implying the podcast serves a valuable function despite the discomfort.
Feeds off others' energy and is noticeably impacted by negative feedback, leading him to overanalyze single reviews or emails.
Brings less energy to negative feedback, doesn't feel personally targeted, and hasn't experienced the same level of audience frustration directed at him.
Calling out someone else's weight gain directly is outrageous and inappropriate.
It can be acceptable if you're joking about your own weight gain, framing it as self-deprecation rather than attacking others.
Finds Jess's long, paragraph-style emails hard to process and wants shorter formats, TL;DR summaries, or more Slack messages, while admitting this may be partly his own avoidance/procrastination.
Defends Jess's emails as professional and well-formatted, arguing the problem is Josh's visceral aversion to doing email work, not Jess's communication style.
Jess (credited as 'D')
Felt blindsided and attacked by the criticism, notes the emails are detailed client communications (not casual internal notes) and offers to add short summaries as a compromise.
Believes The Daily Talk Show's slower, more aligned growth around the 'gronk' identity is preferable to rapid scale, since bigger communities risk homogenisation and rising toxicity.
Questions whether a group as large as 40,000 can even be considered a real community rather than just an extension of an audience or newsletter list.
Argues NFB exists specifically so people can enjoy content separately from the show, not to be mined for segments.
Feels there's a fine line and seems drawn to wanting to talk about and potentially use NFB content on the show.
Notes team members like Crystal are questioning why WhatsApp notifications are still used, implying it should be phased out.
Wants to keep the associated phone number for potential future use (e.g., a Daily Talk Show mobile) even if the group chat itself is retired.
Thinks it's fine to retire WhatsApp now that Discord has proven itself, framing both as part of a natural experimentation process.
Skeptical of adopting Microsoft Teams given Microsoft's history of acquiring and degrading products like Skype and Yammer, and wary of an all-in-one tool trying to do everything.
Dislikes Microsoft Teams, finding it clunky and ugly compared to Slack, despite using it for another job.
whether elaborate restaurant-style cooking techniques (purées, wine-poached eggs) are worth doing at home
Ep 736▶ 13:08Is intrigued by Gordon Ramsay's MasterClass techniques but worried that if everyone copies them, these oddly elaborate dishes (like red-wine poached eggs or asparagus purée squeezed from a sauce bottle) become normalised despite being impractical for regular cooking.
Thinks the techniques are not sustainable for home cooks because restaurant-scale methods (like making large batches of purée) only make sense when cooking for many people, leading to wasted leftover ingredients.
Questions whether being vigilant (locking doors, security cameras) actually changes outcomes versus random, 'preordained' bad luck, but admits he still checks locks compulsively.
Believes avoiding risky crowds/situations can improve your odds, and prefers acting unpredictable ('crazy') if confronted rather than fighting.
Takes consistent personal safety precautions (keys between knuckles, no headphones at night) regardless of statistical likelihood of danger.
Preferred 'team' over 'squad,' feeling squad was too try-hard, though he now embraces 'Gronk Squad.'
Felt that 'team' doesn't have the same ring as squad/Gronk.
Disagrees with planning what to drink a day or more ahead; prefers to make do with what's on hand, comparing it to not knowing what you'll want to eat days before a restaurant visit.
Enjoys the planning process itself, comparing it to the excitement of planning a trip, and likes deciding drinks in advance.
Sides with the idea that planning is part of the fun, similar to travel planning.
Advice from the show
all 108pieces →What was actually said, attributed and linked to the moment.
How do you overcome the fear of putting your creative work out there?
Do it consistently and often—like the artist who made 500 days of art, the pressure lessens with each piece. Producing regularly builds an inner strength or 'muscle' that shuts out worry about what people think, and lets you move on like ending a chat with friends at a café rather than fretting about every word.
How do you know when it's the 'right time' to end something?
You can always construct an argument for why now isn't the ideal time, so once a decision makes sense on balance, it's better to act on it rather than waiting for some theoretically more perfect moment.
How should a podcast/community handle audience feedback channels?
Favor a single, one-to-one channel like email over fragmented options (Discord, DMs, reviews) because it's more manageable and creates real accountability via a real name.
Should a business or community be framed as a 'family'?
Avoid calling a team or audience a 'family'; instead frame it as a 'community'—a place of belonging and care—since family framing can be unrealistic and exploited.
Should you call out people's weight gain (e.g. 'COVID kilos') publicly?
Tommy argues it's outrageous to call out someone else's weight gain outright, but notes that self-deprecating comments about one's own weight are a different, more acceptable form of self-hate.
How should listeners who fell behind on the show handle coming back after the break?
Don't feel judged for missing episodes; treat the break as an amnesty and return fresh and consistent once the show resumes on 16 January, re-engaging with emails and conversation.
Should you tell callers you don't check voicemail?
Josh argues it's clearer to explicitly state in your voicemail greeting that you don't check messages and ask callers to text instead, because it puts the responsibility for next steps on the caller rather than leaving them guessing.
How can emails strike the right tone without seeming too stern or too casual?
Use an exclamation mark on the first sentence, a full stop on the next, and bring back an exclamation mark a few sentences later rather than using one on every sentence; be cautious with ending sentences with someone's name after a comma, as it can read as stern.
Should workplace conflicts be resolved over email or in person?
Passive-aggressive email chains tend to escalate conflict unnecessarily; going and speaking to the person directly, even while angry, tends to de-escalate the situation faster than a 'victory' in an email thread.
How can a creator or business reduce dependence on social media platforms they don't own?
Build a direct relationship with your audience via a regular email newsletter and host original video content on an owned channel like YouTube, rather than relying solely on Instagram/Facebook distribution, since email open rates can remain high even after inactivity.
How do I stop getting constant notification emails from social media apps?
Go into each platform's settings and manually turn off email notifications (e.g., from Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram) to stop being told what you're missing out on when you're trying to step back from social media.
Is my phone number exposing my Facebook profile to strangers?
Check Facebook's settings, since even with phone number visibility set to private, there can be a setting enabled (often tied to two-factor authentication) that lets anyone find your profile by searching your phone number.
How do you build a long-running creative project like a daily show?
Replayed clips from past episodes emphasize that consistency and showing up daily builds momentum over time, and that growth should be viewed as a long-term, incremental process rather than expecting rapid 'hockey stick' success.
How can you make a police report sound urgent enough without lying?
Josh suggests you want to paint a picture that sounds about 10% scarier than reality to get police to respond, but stresses you should never actually lie to Triple Zero.
What's a fair standard when asking a team member to change a work habit (e.g. email length)?
Tommy argues you shouldn't ask a team member to do something (like sending frequent, well-formatted emails) that you're not willing to do yourself, reframing the email debate as Josh's own responsibility to read and process communication properly rather than Jess changing her style.
How can you check if your email or password has been exposed in a data breach?
Use haveibeenpwned.com — enter your email address and it checks it against known breach databases to tell you if you've been compromised.
How do you get over social anxiety when cold-calling or pitching businesses in person?
You just have to do it — the first time is the hardest. Make sure to ask specifically for the manager rather than assuming front-of-house staff will pass on your message, since they often won't.
How do I get a response to a cold outreach email?
Personalise every email — reference specific, researched details about the business (e.g. their roaster, their sustainability practices) rather than sending generic copy-paste pitches, and follow up with new value (like new products) if you don't hear back.
How do you set expectations early in a new relationship?
Don't overdo grand romantic gestures (helicopter rides, fancy dinners) early on; instead give a realistically unglamorous experience upfront (like farting early) so the relationship is built on something sustainable.
How do I reduce the emotional impact of negative emails or content?
Practices like meditation won't stop the initial negative reaction to upsetting content, but they can shorten how long that impact lingers — like reducing the 'half-life' of the negative reaction.
Why not open a full WhatsApp group for your podcast community?
Josh explains that opening a group chat is risky because it only takes one bad actor with everyone's numbers to ruin the community (citing the risk of inappropriate content being shared), so he kept WhatsApp as one-to-one messaging and moved group chat functions to Discord instead.
What should brands without an existing community focus on first?
Prioritise building a genuinely great product before investing heavily in community-building, since a strong product naturally attracts a loyal following.
What's a good easy food to make when you're drunk and don't want to cook?
Avoid pickling anything while drunk since it's too fiddly; nachos are suggested as an easy, low-effort option for a quick meal when tipsy.
Stories told on air
Tommy recalls a primary school incident where a classmate named Ryan broke a sewage pipe at the portable classrooms, causing waste to spill out, with kids running to the toilet amid teacher warnings not to poo.
told by Tommy Jackett
Tommy describes getting Bree a wheel-throwing pottery class at Robert Gordon's for her birthday (after she vetoed golf clubs) and making her a handmade card with metallic markers, contrasting how different people react to homemade gifts.
told by Tommy Jackett
The show received a complaint email accusing GM Jess Lucas of claiming credit for someone else's screenplay. Josh and Tommy work out the complainant actually confused her with an unrelated, more famous actress also named Jessica Lucas.
told by Josh and Tommy
Josh reflects that during roughly 10 weeks of a 'Friday Night Drinks' community format, he was foregoing his own comfort and values for the audience, which eventually led to a blowup (referenced alongside 'DJ Precious').
told by Josh Janssen
Josh describes deliberately stringing along a crypto telemarketer with minimal answers, getting into an argument about Google versus Yahoo, until the caller said 'I don't have time for this' and hung up.
told by Josh Janssen
While working as a digital content producer at radio station Kiss, Tommy published a personal article about going through his old stripping costumes with his partner Amy. A colleague sent a group email criticizing the post, prompting Tommy to confront him in person instead of replying over email; the station's senior executive later approved keeping the article live.
told by Tommy Jackett
Josh, at 17, emailed the Dignation podcast hosts complaining that his girlfriend was upset about his habit of checking email and 'highlighting folders' right after intimacy; the hosts read it on air, which thrilled him more than it embarrassed him.
told by Josh Janssen
Josh receives an odd supportive email that appears to come from a phone number. He investigates using Facebook's phone-number search feature and email searching, eventually tracing it to Kaz, the mum of team member George (GB), before Tommy figures out the technical cause: texting an email address sends a real email, not an iMessage.
told by Tommy and Josh
A card congratulating the team on reaching 800 episodes was left anonymously at the office; the hosts struggle to work out the sender's correct name, cycling through Harry Roth, Harry Johnston, and Harry Lodge before chat commenters help clarify it.
told by Josh Janssen and Tommy Jackett
Josh notices a man with dead eyes loitering suspiciously near the Thai supermarket and protein shop across from the office, calls the non-emergency police line, gets transferred to Triple Zero, and later checks in with Protein Paul and a neighbour about the man before police arrive without apprehending anyone.
told by Josh Janssen and Tommy Jackett
Josh reads aloud the original 2018 cold-contact-form email he sent Peter after discovering him via a Seth Godin livestream, inviting him onto the podcast; the two reflect on how short it was compared to Jess's emails.
told by Josh Janssen
Tommy explains how a bot exploited an unprotected contact form on one of their websites to send 55,000 spam emails to strangers using their domain, resulting in one angry reply and a day spent fixing it.
told by Tommy Jackett
After a day of visiting cafes and drinking lots of coffee for sales meetings, Russell recounts urgently calling his mum to unlock the door because he desperately needed the bathroom, narrowly avoiding an accident.
told by Russell Touyz
Tommy and Josh discuss a viral video of Scott Morrison giving a press conference about a building grant at a housing estate, during which the homeowner comes out and politely asks the PM and crew to get off his freshly seeded lawn.
told by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen
A listener named Rod emailed offering a free week's stay at his new Airbnb in Blairgowrie near Sorrento for Mr. 97 and his girlfriend Grace, in exchange for a shoutout and promotional content.
told by read aloud by an unidentified team member
Tommy recalls working a street-team event at Bunnings in Frankston where a sausage sizzle competition challenged people to assemble a flat-pack wheelbarrow fastest; the winner, who lived in Williamstown (about an hour and a bit away by train), had to leave with the constructed wheelbarrow and caught the train home with it plus an extra prize inside.
told by Tommy Jackett
Tommy describes playing the 'jealous boyfriend' in a years-old staged prank where a friend's drunk mate was set up on a fake date with an actress named 'Lisa' wearing a hidden spy camera, before the video's creator called it off after learning the prank target was not mentally stable.
told by Tommy Jackett
Josh describes writing sales copy for the new crewneck and t-shirt, then recounts a chaotic FaceTime call with their web designer Blaz while trying to get the Shopify store built in time, including muting him mid-rant and his wife Bree telling him to apologise.
told by Josh Janssen
In their words
“She's just been a number on the dashboard of Simplecast.”
“Never underestimate how important you guys were to so many people through some of the toughest times many of us have been through.”
“I've had it up to pussy's bow. Reveal yourself. Who are you?”
“It's the nicest external stimulus dictating what you do in your life can be a real problem.”
“The rhetoric about a company being a family is not realistic. Parents don't fire or furlough their children to cut costs. Leaders would be better off calling their company a community, a place where people feel a sense of belonging and care about one another”
“Enjoy the banter, but this show is fatphobic.”
“Look, if you're working, quit. It's going to be a full-time job.”
“A podcast day keeps a gronk entertained.”
“It's living on the edge.”
“There is so much awful shit in the US right now, from the election to the wildfires and racial tension. Your gang, quotation marks, has brought me nothing but laughter and pleasure, which I so desperately needed.”
“Mate, you had us at food chat, Julia. It's A+.”
“There's nothing like a victory over email when you're in a chain.”
“If you don't pay for the product, you are the product.”
“Merch pays, merch pays to embed your logo into people's minds.”
“She calls it post-cum mood. It's sort of true.”
“This is the dumbest feature I've ever seen.”
“Consistency builds the momentum.”
“I called 131 444, which is when you need the police without the sirens.”