A Little Bit Jumpy

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 400. Keep it rolling. Uh, what just happened?

Mason: It stopped and I was—

Tommy: yeah, what number is it, guys?

Josh: 446. 446. Yeah, he was ready to play it again, but I guess we'll just roll with it.

Tommy: We will roll with it. Baby boy makes some mistakes sometimes, not often. And we'll forgive him.

Josh: He's going to have a late night tonight, him and I. Why? Oh, we're going, going out. We're going to see PJ. Yeah. And Taylor Harris Fox.

Tommy: Yeah. So PJ from Jason PJ. That's going to be great. I did do a little bit of digging. Taylor Harris is that weapon of a woman who did that big kick and then all those creeps made those comments about this photo of her athletic ability. Anyway, that's her. I didn't know it was her. Oh yeah. And I saw that. And then I watched some videos of boxing. Oh no. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to fucking get in the ring with her.

Josh: I'm pumped.

Tommy: Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I'm annoyed that I can't come because I've got suburb life to step into.

Josh: Well, you just picked up the keys.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Of your new place. I always have to say rental place because I get embarrassed, like, because I'm a renter as well.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: It's like I got a new apartment.

Tommy: There's nothing embarrassing.

Josh: There's nothing really. No, but there's something about the, oh, congratulations. Like, don't congratulate me.

Tommy: Look, we're at an age where people will, and I've had this many times, oh, do you own your own property? It's always no. I have to let them down. But these, these people gave us a podcast. These people gave us a hamper. It was like, yeah, chocolates in it, really? Two mugs. I don't know what, what it says on it.

Josh: You don't know?

Tommy: No, I didn't check. I'll cheque when we get home.

Josh: That's a nice touch.

Tommy: Mate, I've never been impressed by a real estate agent until today. And I got a hamper and I got you a Mentos that was in the foyer. And so, yeah, I mean, it's all, I mean, maybe this is just the service you get out in the suburbs.

Josh: Yeah, I think it's a really nice sort of country town touch. Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, so you'll give us an update on how PJ goes tonight?

Josh: Yeah, so 97 and I are going tonight. You are going to be moving bits and pieces from your house?

Tommy: Yeah, going to cheque it out. I mean, I don't want to walk in there and go, I didn't know about that. I don't think we will. We've only looked at it once, so maybe just happy with what we got.

Josh: I mean, you took a photo of the electricity box.

Tommy: Oh, that was another one. I mean, maybe I should have taken—

Josh: Do you have a photo of the electricity box?

Tommy: No, not of this one.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: But we're moving in. I'm going to be grateful for whatever it is. Last night we worked reasonably late. It was a big day.

Josh: After 6.

Tommy: Yeah, after 6, but we got started. I left the house at 6:30.

Josh: I had my alarm on for 5:20 AM.

Tommy: Yeah. So it was a big, solid, long day with the team from Bond Street Dental in Melbourne.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Legends, absolute legends. And anyway, so I was walking home because it was late and I didn't have the car. Amy had the car to pick up Bodhi, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna walk. And usually the way I walk home from here, and when I say walk, it is an hour and a half.

Josh: Yeah, it's a very long, like I couldn't believe, I was catching up with a client the other day and just walked to AU79 and they were like, oh, where are you taking us? They assumed that that was walking to our local cafe was a big walk.

Tommy: But in fairness, I only did about 13,000 steps yesterday, which isn't much. I don't think it's that much for such a long walk, but it was nice. I just, it wasn't like a high pace, wasn't sweat. I just, I did it as the alternative to having to go to the gym really, really late.

Josh: Did you have headphones?

Tommy: No, I didn't. I fucking lost mine, and I'm hoping to find them in the move. I've lost my AirPods. Anyway, anyway, I was walking down in silence. Yeah, I mean, I, I've just got, I've got my own thoughts to— maybe in fairness, it probably would have helped with what I'm about to tell you. So Victoria Street, we've talked about the, the junkies, the drug addicts, the The licorice allsorts. I don't know, that's how you describe it.

Josh: It's a quirky bunch of people.

Tommy: It's a very quirky bunch of people, and sometimes you can feel rather unsafe. Majority of the time I don't feel unsafe. They're around, but it's almost like they're in their own world. They don't even look at you. They're just like, just walking along, talking to themselves, if anything. Or they're always in twos. Yeah, always.

Josh: Well, we know the names of a few because we've seen them nearly OD, and they're screaming out each other's names and things.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So it's weird because it feels like we've built out these characters, we know them. And even when we walked past one of the guys that we know his name, it is tempting just to assert power and say, hey, John, but you don't do it because it just— I don't want to.

Tommy: I mean, they wouldn't have to assert power. They don't have a grasp of us, so they're not doing what we're doing. We're looking from the outside and going, wow, this is ridiculous. I mean, they're all on substance, so they're fucking not thinking about anyone other than themselves and the next hit. But I felt unsafe last night walking down, and I feel like I'm quite street smart. I've been around dangerous shit, and I know, like, you get a feeling, right? You almost know when stuff isn't good.

Josh: Can I guess where you were?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Were you on the corner of Victoria and Lennox?

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's the sweet spot.

Josh: Was that where it was?

Tommy: Exactly. So I'm walking up, approaching that corner. I just see this guy looking at me. I had my hood on, but I don't know, I don't think I would have looked dodgy, but I think hood is just universal. You're a dodgy prick.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so I realised that as I'm walking because this guy, this guy's trying to lock eyes with me. Hey buddy, hey buddy boy. And then he, and then I looked at him and smiled and just because you watched the Bond Street, you're part of the Bond Street Dental. What makes you smile?

Josh: What makes you smile?

Tommy: Nerves about being shanked. That's what makes you.

Josh: So you did, because I did do the exact same thing last night walking past some rough people.

Tommy: You smiled at them?

Josh: I was going to. I was like, nah, you don't smile at everyone.

Tommy: Well, I just, I was trying to defuse it. In hindsight, shouldn't have looked at him once. They ignore you when you don't look at them. So I literally walked past, but then I smiled, and then he said something as I walked past. And then I got further on Lennox Street, uh, Victoria Street. It got even worse. There was more of them. I was so on edge, and I, like, my adrenaline was running because there were deals happening. You literally see him handing over fucking little bags. It's full on. Yeah, full on. It was like I'd never seen it like this before. Nighttime, 7:30, 7 o'clock.

Josh: It's like a community bit where they've got, um, like chess playing, you know, like you say New York where you can play chess. They all congregate around there.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not great. And where are the cops? They should be there. But anyway, I got past and I, and I was fine and they didn't attack me.

Josh: What do you think they would do? What is the risk?

Tommy: Oh man, I've got like a— I could handle myself with most of them because they're just off their face in terms of if they actually got physical.

Josh: But what are they getting physical about?

Tommy: I don't know if that they'll just want to give me a phone. Like, people don't steal phones anymore. It's more give me your cash. I got no cash, mate. I literally use cards.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, so I'm not worried about that. It's more if they had a syringe and they would jab you with it. That's what I'd be worried about. And I got— and I walked on. I was on so— I was fucking on edge so much. And I've never had this happen before, but I got like away from it, turned. But I kept on thinking about that first guy looking at me thinking, is he— is he gonna come You know, like I just kept on looking behind, just checking my shit. So I was checking, what do you call it, checking my six, you know, checking. Yeah, so you got like a clock, checking my six behind.

Josh: Okay, why do you say six?

Tommy: It's like, it's a cool thing to say, man.

Josh: Okay, cheque my six.

Tommy: I was checking my six. Fucking, it's—

Josh: we get it, you know, the analogue watch.

Tommy: I don't know, I've heard some rappers say cheque my six. No one was there. Checked it again, no one was there.

Josh: Check you too.

Tommy: Anyhow, I got around this corner and it was off the main strip and I'm walking down and fuck, you know how you see cats when they get scared, they literally jump in the air and get airborne? Yeah, that happened to me. I, no joke, this woman ran up behind me and she was running, she was in her exercise attire, but I just heard this thump right behind me and like I nearly hurt my back. It was so full-on.

Josh: Do you think she knew?

Tommy: She said, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

Josh: Were you wearing the Daily Talk Show hoodie?

Tommy: No, it was the grey one. For her to apologise to me, she had to have physically seen me absolutely shit myself and get airborne at the same time.

Josh: I do enjoy that though. It happened, I was walking past a guy and he had big headphones on Noise-canceling headphones, very easy to do.

Tommy: This is why I actually don't like shutting out the world when you're walking. You're the furthest thing from street smart doing that. Like, if shit is actually happening— this is hoods as well, like I whip my hood off because you can't see.

Josh: You can't see your six.

Tommy: You can't see your six. I mean, I could get one of those, you know, the bike riders have those sort of like little things, but I was thinking about— I was trying to like put a positive spin on it rather than sort of getting into like, fucking these, fucking— I did get a bit like that, like, this bloody making me scared. Anyways, literally swearing to myself. But I was like, I think about the story, so, and I think this could be something, it could be like a little practise people can do in any situation. Where you are right now, what is the storey you'll tell about now in the future, but with a really positive spin on it? So for us, I think it's Remember when we had our first dedicated studio, the place in Abbotsford?

Josh: It was just a shit hole.

Tommy: It was like— studio was great, but like, think about where we were and all those times that we were like on the fringe of this just craziness and we're kind of slightly off to the side of it, like where we are. Barely, barely, barely. But we're not in the epicentre of it. We're just on the outer. And I was thinking about that and it made me feel good thinking like in 5 years time.

Josh: It's only going to get better potentially.

Tommy: Well, you're hot.

Josh: I hope you're moving to Bulleen. There's not many junkies in Bulleen.

Tommy: Mate, there's no junkies out there, just old Italian men looking to have, you know, share their lemons from their lemon tree. But do you think that's a nice thing to do? Just like look at now, and I get it's hard when you're in a bad space. But the alternative— so if you are in a bad space, say, looking forward and going 5 years, what does it actually look like? And remember that when— remember when it wasn't going as well as I wanted it to be? And like, the storey for this is, remember when we were in a location that wasn't where we are now or where we wanted to be at the time?

Josh: Is it the opposite of gratitude?

Tommy: Uh, no, it's, it's visualization. It's a maybe a form of visualisation because you can't say visualisation thinking of the life you want or the perfect day is not being grateful for today that you've got. Yeah, it is not saying— and I think it's probably not. Maybe if you are in a really bit of a funk.

Josh: Yeah, I'm worried that if I did that, I would start being like, I love this office.

Tommy: I could just imagine. I love it.

Josh: If 2 days of doing that, I'm just like, this place is shit.

Tommy: So here, maybe this. Think about what you've put up with in your life and you haven't even thought it's bad, right? You haven't even thought about it. So we think this is great, and I'm not saying it's not great. Yeah, I fucking love coming here. Yeah, but you know, all the shit you did when you were young that you would never do now, but you just, you had to do it. So the— so we all are coping, or, you know, our situation, you're looking at it in the best possible light, hopefully.

Josh: Well, I mean, if what started the year, our office was smaller than this room, and now we have like 3 stories, we've got heaps more space, and we've got like room to move and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: Room to breakdance. Room to park a car. I mean, all these great things. We've got Soda Streams. We've got a young blonde kid.

Josh: Things are good. Things are good.

Tommy: Things are good. We got plants. Some that smell like absolute shit that we have to now get some topsoil for, I'm pretty sure.

Josh: Do we?

Tommy: Well, they can't come back inside.

Josh: What do you mean?

Mason: Do they still smell?

Tommy: They still smell. I think we put way too much, um—

Mason: I mean, I did go hard. It did look like they needed a lot of fertilizer.

Josh: How do you know? Well, I mean, what is fertilizer?

Tommy: Shit?

Josh: Yeah, it is actual shit.

Mason: I mean, it's like ground shit, right?

Tommy: I mean, there's not much difference between my son's nappy and the outdoor plants. It's manure.

Josh: But what is fertiliser specifically? Because don't they use fertiliser to blow shit up?

Tommy: Um, no, I said there's different types. So you're talking about like the, the chemical, chemical fertilizer. Yeah, it's a good point. What is fertilizer? Is fertiliser all poo, or is fertilizer— there's a chemical makeup that you can get which people, gronks, use to explode shit.

Josh: Yeah, I don't know. Uh, 97, what do you want to do for dinner, mate?

Tommy: Can you organise your dinner somewhere else?

Mason: I mean, I've I've got leftovers in the fridge.

Josh: Is that what you're planning on doing?

Tommy: Mate, the kid meal preps. Don't mess with his meal prep.

Josh: I mean, if you're gonna go out on a night, like we're going out. Yeah, we're going seeing the boxing.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, but he's the kind of guy that would book in a date that's dinner and have dinner before he goes and then say, I'm not that hungry, I'll just probably get a side.

Mason: Yeah, probably.

Tommy: Yeah, he's that guy, isn't he? Yeah, you are.

Josh: And I'm the guy who had schnitz at the food court at Doncaster. Wasn't going to mention it so I can have a good dinner without you being a little bitch to me. But yes, I had schnitz. It is annoying when I look over and Miss and I see 7's got Your Juice yesterday, just looking at the calorie breakdown before he realises whether he's gonna have it or not.

Mason: Well, I just, I just put it, I wanted to know what sugar was in there.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, but it's a real point. It's real, like, stop everybody, stop. Yeah, just Josh, stop, stop that. Just looking at the, um, yep, it's going to 26 grammes per 100ml. That does a calculation.

Josh: Yeah, okay, that's a bit of a buzzkill.

Tommy: I mean, your choice, Josh. It's that kind of a vibe, right?

Josh: Yeah. So you're not gonna have dinner with me?

Mason: Oh, what were you thinking?

Josh: I don't know. I was—

Mason: I mean, could you do like a Nando's?

Josh: Yeah, I could do Nando's, I guess. I guess we can talk about it later.

Tommy: I mean, you can talk about it later. I mean, we were just at Doncaster Shopping Centre.

Josh: Is it—

Tommy: it got a name?

Mason: Westfield.

Tommy: I mean, yeah, it is Westfield. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. So my, my computer's not working.

Tommy: Yeah, I saw it's one of your— it's almost one of the greatest moments, the greatest performance you put on. Is that the Mac Store?

Josh: Yeah, the Apple Store. Yeah. So yeah, there was something happened to the computer. They're not going to listen, but I guess we don't talk about it.

Tommy: I mean, I see that. Here's the thing, you got water in it, and I don't know if you did.

Josh: Yeah. So something happened, water got onto the laptop potentially, maybe.

Tommy: Well, it— I don't think— this is the thing, there was water on a table And then one of your ports wasn't working.

Josh: Uh, no, it was— no, you haven't explained what happened. It was dripping. Yeah, there was a—

Mason: yeah, there was a little bit of water on the laptop.

Josh: It was, it was dripping like we had to— a lot of water. Yeah, it was like falling out.

Tommy: No, I said—

Josh: yeah, yeah. And so, um, big waterfall just— so what are you meant to do? Like, is there any time?

Tommy: Is there—

Josh: it's nice. What'd you say?

Tommy: Rice?

Josh: No, rice, no. That's dumb, uh, for a laptop. I think it's dumb. But anyway, so I, um, uh, water went all over the laptop, uh, I brought it into the office after the shoot they were at and tried to plug everything in, and one of the ports isn't working.

Tommy: Which it seems like a— I mean, I don't even know how that would work, how something could just stop, like a port rather than the computer actually just fucking stop, you know.

Josh: Yeah, that's very annoying.

Tommy: I mean, I'm the guy that has literally done this.

Josh: Don't do that. That was— why even do that?

Tommy: There's no computer, there's no laptop on. No, I just spilled, but I literally was editing and I knocked and it went where the screen meets the fucking keyboard and there's the bit where it just goes— the vent. Yeah, it sucks all the air in or pushes it out. Yeah, the air in. I just poured, and it's fucking in Jase's office where he is, where they do the show.

Josh: And it just poured in.

Tommy: No, I didn't care. And then I was— I mean, as an employee, you're like, like, it's not your— I mean, you, you have items that they assign to you, but if shit actually fucks up and there's an accident, there's insurance. They're a big company. And so anyway, I poured and I saw water.

Josh: You didn't pour, you just gestured pouring.

Tommy: Yeah, but I— as in, it poured in.

Josh: Yeah, it was fucked. Was there sparks or smoke?

Tommy: No, but, um, did it turn off? Yeah, very quickly.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: I was like, oh no.

Josh: And so you were going on holidays, weren't you?

Tommy: It was just before the end of the year, so I was, yeah, annual leave. Everyone's, everyone's off for the summer, and I was like, this is fucked. What am I gonna do? I, you know what I was worried about? I was worried that I was gonna have to pay for it.

Josh: Would they do— if you're an employee?

Tommy: No, exactly. This— now in hindsight, because I'd come from running my own business where it's like anyone— if I fuck anything, it's my problem. And so I'd never— I hadn't worked in a big business like that with a computer like that.

Josh: Hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you have ever been in a business where you fuck something up and you've had to pay for it. Okay, if you break something at a shop or whatever, do you really have to pay for it?

Tommy: He's one. Borrow the boss's car, who pays for it? So if you—

Josh: the excess?

Tommy: Yeah, who pays for the excess if you smash it? And the boss— no, okay, but the boss says, hey, can you go down and pick up my kid's jersey that is being dry cleaned right now?

Josh: Okay, has this happened? It feels like it's happened.

Mason: Uh, real—

Tommy: no, no, no, it's actually in my own house, and I heard my wife talking to her sister about, um, about her sister who gets their jersey try clean. That was a fucking made-up situation. But I'm saying, I think, I think Amy's sister was asked to, oh, um, can you do some driving around? But then it's like, okay, whose responsibility? Whose responsibility? If it is just as flippant as can you do it? And I know Amy drives her boss's four-wheel drive, and my thought is, who's paying for that?

Josh: Yeah, like, if it's a very clear—

Tommy: well, that's why I don't let you drive my car, uh, and I won't let you drive my car, or you, Mr.

Josh: 97, or anyone It just says I don't want to drive your car and you don't want to drive mine. It's good.

Tommy: 30 years old. The actual thing on mine is you can't drive it unless you're 30. So that's why we just got the cheaper insurance because we were like, no one can drive it unless they're over 30. So it rules you out, but it's hard. What would happen in our situation if I—

Josh: If you crash my car, I know what would happen. You'd fucking pay for it.

Tommy: No, but if we were doing a job together and you were like, oh, I'm so tired, can you drive? Like, I think we would be the case where the business would have to pay for it. Would pay the excess or whatever, because it's nothing in comparison to the cost of what happens. But outside of that, if the boss just randomly says to Amy, can you drive my car? She, as if she's having a car, it's his car. Yeah, it's his personal car. I mean, it's probably, probably owned by the business. It's a big business.

Josh: It's how, I mean, um, is it a gronk move when I went to Apple that you just bury the lead? I think it's fine. I think it's a rite of passage.

Tommy: Actually, you did your, um, due diligence, you actually did the, uh, tests where you can run diagnostic.

Josh: Yeah, I did. I run, run like hardware diagnostics and shit like that. And so there was nothing showing up. I don't know if it would show water damage.

Tommy: I do.

Josh: It would show— the hardware diagnostic would show if something was failing, but would then be an indicator that when they opened it up, they'd be able to see the marks.

Tommy: No, so you didn't do what I did? Like, you didn't put the water— didn't go like there's a high chance that that cup, whatever, whoever spilled that at that shoot, just was on the table and was just running along the bottom of the laptop. Like, they are— like, I'm surprised at how waterproof you— fuck, back in the day, I still do it with my phone.

Josh: I don't anymore, but this is—

Tommy: I called it and he answered.

Josh: This is a waterproof phone.

Mason: Well, so I do that with my phone. My phone's not even waterproof.

Josh: Yeah, I think it's like, phones are very different. Like, laptop, I think it was a good example of how such a little amount of water—

Mason: Yeah, well, I honestly thought, I thought it was going to be fine. I thought you're going to get away with it. Yeah, I thought it would have been a bit more durable.

Josh: But anyway, when I, when I said to, um, I brought it into Apple, and you just have to— the weird thing is that they've just, uh, they've got all these processes, so it's not like they'll just give you the— a good outcome to start with. You literally have to say 'Can I speak to the manager?' before they do it.

Tommy: This is Telstra. This is the phone companies too. They're just— And I said to you, Mr. Nice Guy, what do you think? Like, so this guy first speaks to— has the part of the process up to here. And I was saying, is that all he knows? He's just like, 'I actually don't know. I've never been told about this next level that you could get to.' But I think you've got to pretend like you don't know, I guess.

Josh: Like, you've got to pretend like, 'This is all I can do.' And clearly they know because they always say, it's almost like they're trying to hint. It's like, now this is all I can do.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: So anyway, I basically said, I don't know what's wrong with it. I said, I think that maybe there's some lint in it, like my phone. There's something in the ports. Can you look for lint? And then he looked at the laptop behind the wall and came back and he said, oh yeah, there's nothing in there. Can't see anything. Can't see any water damage or anything like that. Super clean. And the fucked up thing is that I can't, like, I straight away change my face when he says watered down. Like, I can't just keep a poker face. So, just do like a little—

Tommy: Are you pooing yourself?

Josh: So, I just like do a little smile, which I just can't help, which is annoying. But what was annoying was they were saying it's going to take— Once they'd worked out that it wasn't water damage, they're like, oh yeah, it must be an issue with the laptop. It's going to take 7 to 10 days to fix. Which is just crazy, really, don't you think?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And so I said absolutely not. And then they said, oh, well, if you get the business advanced fucking thing, you can. Um, but I just got nervous that someone's gonna fucking send this to Apple and I'm gonna— they're gonna reveal and they're gonna say, hey, it's unlikely. Please don't do that.

Mason: The thing is, they have to look up your model number and everything now.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Mason: Yeah, too much effort. Yeah, they can't be bothered anyway.

Josh: But if I was confident about that, so they're giving me 3, they're going to get it fixed in 3 days.

Tommy: The alternative is you just pay the excess of your insurance and there's $100 excess.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you get a whole new laptop. You get all your cash back. That's the thing about this.

Mason: Cash back's not a bad idea. You could do that.

Josh: I tried to do that. I actually tried to say, um, get an i7 for a return.

Tommy: Yeah. No, but I'm saying the insurance, like if it doesn't work, you actually can do it.

Josh: I have never claimed. I've paid so much for insurance over the years, but I've never claimed it.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Does it actually affect— what's the deal?

Tommy: Nothing. Gear insurance, different insurers, different. The equipment insurance for filmmakers and stuff like that that you can get through AON, it's literally $100 or something and you get back the cost of the item less GST and Bob's your uncle. There's no— because I used to always think, you do it with, you do it with a car. That's where we're taught car excesses. When you were crashing your car, it's proving that you're a derp and they're not going to insure derps for as cheap.

Mason: And then your premium goes up or whatever.

Tommy: Exactly. Not the same. Not the same in this. So I mean, yeah, it is the thought of do you get the phone insurance? Do you get the—

Josh: Well, with all of the, um, uh, what is it, ACCC or the— sorry, uh, consumer law. Yeah, consumer affairs. ACCC. Um, like, there's— we've got so many rights anyway as consumers that it's pretty, uh, unnecessary warranties for warranties, but phones and stuff.

Tommy: But the barefoots, that was what he was saying, like, go the super high excesses on these insurances so you're paying super low premiums. Yeah, so you don't—

Josh: yeah, I mean, who is buying like 24 months? You remember, like, that was the bread and butter of like the JB's and the Harvey Norman's was like 24 months of insurance, like 2 years added warranty, stuff like that.

Tommy: Well, it used to be the big con, and I'd be like, on washing machines. Washing machines are the big one.

Josh: What about the other one was, um, Monster cables? No, you know about Monster cables?

Tommy: What is a Monster?

Josh: So Monster is a brand of cable, and it was, um, back in like the '90s or whatever when stuff was analog. They would have like really fancy like gold-plated cable like ends, connectors and stuff. And it was like real primo stuff. However, when you're dealing with digital signals, a $5 HDMI cable versus a $500 HDMI cable, they do— they're doing the same thing. It's ones and zeros. You're either getting the signal or you're not getting the signal. There's no difference in quality. And so when the HD was coming and digital was, you know, the whole thing, and it was a big, it was a big con where they would say, hey, you should definitely get the really high quality HDMI cable.

Mason: The gold-plated connectors. Yeah.

Josh: Which made absolutely no difference.

Tommy: I've seen these cables.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: They look fancy as fuck. I wanted one.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. Super dodgy.

Mason: Sleeves and stuff on them.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So we were at Doncaster. The reason I asked you where we were Because in a video that we made while we're at the shopping center, I said, where are we? And you said Doncaster. And I, and I, and I was wanting you to say what shopping centre we were in because I didn't know. I don't— yeah, I didn't know.

Josh: I just always say Doncaster. You do? Yeah. Okay.

Tommy: If I'm going to Doncaster, well, I guess it's like, you know, you're right, because when I go to South Chatswood, when I go to Southland, Endeavour Hills— Southland's a suburb, or Southland— is Southland the suburb? Chatswood's definitely the suburb.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So, but there's Eastland, there's Westfield, Southland.

Mason: It's not the suburb.

Tommy: It's not the suburb. So that's the name of it.

Mason: Yep.

Tommy: So you've just been calling it Doncaster.

Josh: Yeah, that's— I think that's what most people would call it. Not many people would call it Westfield.

Tommy: But at Doncaster Shopping Centre, whatever it is, there is— there was an Athlete's Foot that we were walking past, and I just had a moment where I remembered Athlete's Foot is a retail shop for people not in Australia. So it's that They're actually quite good. They specialise in footwear for people who actually are doing exercise.

Josh: Like Foot Locker for athletes.

Tommy: Yeah, so they take into account what you want to do with, you know, what you want to do with your feet and where you're going to be, whether it's running or whatever, and then they match the foot to your shoe— match the foot— match the shoe to your foot. Anyway, long storey short, they can measure your foot. And Josh and I had—

Josh: every shoe shop can do that, let's be clear.

Tommy: They can measure your foot and we can— and do you want to start again?

Josh: No, that's fine.

Tommy: So they can measure your foot and you fucking throw me way off.

Josh: Basically, you want to say that it's foot analysis.

Tommy: I can get— I get that every fucking shoe shop measures your foot, but these guys have pretty specific, very, very good technology to measure the length of your foot. And we were having an argument the other day about who has a bigger foot.

Josh: I said that I had a wider foot.

Tommy: Ah, but you were pretty determined that you had a bigger foot as well. It's just, I've got a bigger foot. Yeah, length, girth, all the above.

Josh: And so anyway, you went, uh, and we saw a guy named Nathan who was working there. Yeah, you just throw the camera at him, just like, yeah, start filming him.

Tommy: But Nathan was fully prepared for the Daily Talk Show boys. He just lent into it. And I was so proud.

Josh: He was treating it like it was a Biggest Loser segment or something, like a weigh-in.

Tommy: I mean, he gave the opposite reaction of what Mr. 97 would do if I held a camera and just walked into an athlete's foot and started filming. You'd be like, no photos. Anyway, he was like, boys, boys. Anyway, we got him to do a full, you know, he sits us down, we get to think about asking, saying, hey, can I film you? No, I said I watched the footage back and I said, all right, we're making a video.

Josh: That's not, that's not—

Tommy: well, I think we're making, we're making video. I don't— I might have said, is that all right?

Josh: No, you don't.

Tommy: But by the time you're saying we're making a video, he was fucking pumped.

Josh: He was in it.

Tommy: He was on board. If he, if he wasn't on board, I wouldn't have had the— yeah, sure, you know, the confidence as I went through going to keep going. Anyhow, he, um, set us up. We got our shoes, socks off. He put us onto this plate, and then we had to do this step thing, and we worked out who has a bigger foot.

Josh: It was you, but I still have a wider foot, so that's good. Yeah, but so what were you?

Mason: I don't know, 12B or 12D, either one of the two. And Josh, you were 11— I was like 10. Were you a 10 and 11?

Josh: I was 10 and 11. I was a size bigger on my right foot.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, I think 10C or something like that.

Tommy: So I'm almost 2 sizes bigger on one foot to you.

Josh: Correct.

Tommy: Anyway, I won. So we've— if, if you're wanting to us to close the loop because we said we'd, we'd do a measurement, so next is, uh, testosterone.

Josh: We need to do that. Yeah, yeah. Um, I was thinking about, uh, 3D Dill. We need to, uh, catch up and see what he's up to at some point.

Tommy: How is he? I mean, I saw he actually reshared something I posted and said he's missing The Australian Gronks.

Josh: Yeah, we should FaceTime him. We should get him. So tomorrow we're at AU79. Yeah, for burgers.

Tommy: Oh, that's going to be fun.

Josh: What's the latest with Hayden the Gronk?

Mason: Hayden's tat? Yeah. The place that Hayden wanted to do it at, we can't do it tomorrow.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: And they suggested next Tuesday, but we're jam-packed on Tuesday.

Josh: Did you ask?

Tommy: Meetings. We've got meetings and podcasts back to back.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: The, um, and so, and so I suggested that they could come into the studio and we could do it live, but I haven't heard back yet.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: I mean, that sounds like there's probably some difficulties around that, you know, like if, I don't know, what can go wrong with doing a tattoo?

Tommy: No, nothing. They'd bring their kit. Yeah, like they're not gonna do it.

Mason: I mean, the kit's probably just plug it into a PowerPoint, right?

Tommy: Yeah, you can get portable kits, I'm sure. But maybe there's a bunch of people that are kitted out to do portable stuff.

Josh: That would be good to do portable though.

Tommy: I'd be sick.

Mason: Have you spoken to Hayden about it or Yeah, he's down to do a portable one.

Tommy: Oh great, well I've got a bunch of mates.

Josh: Let's do it on Victoria Street.

Tommy: We'll get Joel to do it. A bit of extra cash. Joel's one of the ones that floats around here, you know.

Josh: Uh, great. Uh, any emails?

Mason: Yeah, we, uh, we got a message from Ryan Spencer. He commented on Tully's video on YouTube. Having had no idea who Tully Smyth was before the podcast, I have to say that it was really interesting to hear what life is like after appearing on a reality TV show where you might not be typecast as a hero. Shaking how you've been pegged doesn't sound easy, but good on her for sticking to her guns and saying no to the rebrand. As someone whose family is affected by Alzheimer's and other conditions in the dementia family of diseases, I'm glad to hear that she's raising awareness.

Josh: That's great. The, uh, I also, uh I've been getting a bunch of notifications of people with hoodies.

Tommy: Oh yeah, they're arriving, guys. So if you've ordered them, they're on their way, or you might have them.

Josh: Uh, Martin just did a great post. Yeah, I put in his, uh, in his card for him to never take it off.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so he's actually mentioned that on Instagram, so hopefully that, that cuts through.

Tommy: Um, have you washed yours yet since you've got it?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I'm actually so good when it comes to— if I've got single things I need to wash, you gotta it's all good. It's when it's too many things, you know? Yeah, do you know what I mean?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, no, no.

Josh: Have you washed yours?

Tommy: No, this is the second one though. You guys gave me a second one, so we all got two in the end. So it's— yeah, I've just been rotating. I mean, I've just got— I'm on to the second.

Mason: Yours? Yeah, I've washed, I've washed both of mine.

Josh: Are they holding up well? Yeah, okay, good.

Mason: I mean, I just, I just did a cold water wash and That's the thing about this, um, high quality, um, screen print, screen printing.

Tommy: I was thinking for the next round of merch, what would be great? Extra expense, we're not afraid of spending money here, I guess. Uh, 0, uh, 1/100, 2/100. So you're building it out, it's just like we do a 100-run. And so I've seen a few people doing this with their merch, embroidery or something, like through embroidery, would it be? No, these people had them screen printed. Okay, but it'd be an edge like screen printing.

Josh: I don't know if you can screen print something that you can screen print anything. No, but would you have to do a new plate or whatever?

Tommy: I fucking oath you would. That's what I'm saying, it's expensive. Somehow they've done it. Okay, well, there's a lot of digital printing. Think about, think about if you got them done offshore and the person or the printing company that does this so much and they've got a fucking kilometre by kilometre um, screen printing business. No, this is the reality over in China and stuff that have like zero— like, how many Gronks have done this before? We're not the first in the world to do it. But you're right, I'd probably rather embroider it because then you could just run through the machine with the RWW boys. Yeah, we can probably get that done.

Josh: Yeah, perfect.

Tommy: All right, hi-vis too.

Josh: It's a daily talk show. Uh, please send us emails, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Also, if you're enjoying the podcast, leave a review at Apple Podcasts. Thank you. We mentioned Emma's, uh, one the other day. Actually, we got some other nice ones.

Tommy: Got one from America, I saw it, from United States.

Josh: Yeah, we got one from America as well. But, um, there was one here, standby.

Tommy: Also, thank you to Nathan from Athlete's Foot.

Mason: Easy listening and good content. Yeah, that's stuff, boys.

Tommy: That's from the US.

Mason: That's from the US.

Tommy: I wonder who that is. Does it say JGGDA? There it is. That's what I want to know.

Josh: There was a nice one from Emily as well, but I can't bring it up at the moment. Can you see that?

Mason: Cracking Gronkh Love is the subject. Cracking content and the best in the charts. A reliable goodness injection.

Josh: This is why I shouldn't read while he reads. It's cracking content and the best chats. A reliable goodness injection every single day and definitely the best hour-ish of mine.

Tommy: How did he get it to best in the charts?

Josh: I can see how it happened.

Tommy: I mean, we've been getting into the charts recently. Top 100 in Australia, baby. So if you do like that little plug, Mason, look, I'm not going to argue the best in the charts thing because we're in the charts.

Josh: It's editorialising the reviews. But if you're enjoying the show, please, your reviews on Apple Podcasts is appreciated.

Tommy: Keep them coming.

Josh: Awesome. Well, have a good day, everyone, and we'll see you tomorrow. See you guys.