An Autoresponder Nightmare

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 692.

Tommy: Happy Tuesday afternoon, you gronks. What's going on? What's happening?

Josh: Feels like Monday, doesn't it?

Tommy: I know. Well, I just said to you that it's the 20th and the 21st is tomorrow, mate. It's all over the shop. I left the house today.

Josh: Were you, um, I sensed a little bit of panic because I said we've got something important coming from FedEx and I said, has it come today? And you did say confidently, nah mate, it's coming tomorrow. Was there a moment where you realised when you went and got your souvlaki earlier that you may have missed FedEx?

Tommy: Oh no, it wouldn't matter. I wouldn't need to be here. They can just leave it. They're loose as shit. Yeah, definitely, mate. They gave George Dodge, the dodgiest person I know, they gave him my iPhone 11.

Josh: That would have been TNT, that wouldn't have been FedEx.

Tommy: But that's it. I mean, what I'm saying is that they handed over, not to the person that was its rightful owner, a whatever, $1,400 fine. And he's the dodgiest guy that I know. Look at him, the moustache, the 5 o'clock shade, shadow on his lip. It's crazy, guys. Absolutely crazy.

Josh: Big announcement from Seb. Over to you.

Unknown: Ah, my undies have arrived. Is that, is that the answer you're hoping for?

Josh: Yeah, it was.

Tommy: Is that what you wanted?

Unknown: Yeah, they're great. One pack? So, well, I mean, I've only— no, no, so I've got, I've got the other packets here.

Josh: So you wouldn't like to show?

Unknown: I wasn't—

Josh: just a little something for the audience, just, just a little tease.

Unknown: You've already— no, no, you already put on Instagram.

Tommy: No, no, you've already sent him a full-length shot. Oh, you just want to see it?

Josh: Yeah, I want to see it. There we go.

Tommy: You can see the back.

Josh: Oh, it looks nice.

Tommy: Step 1.

Josh: Just look at that V-line. Is it a V-line? Is that what that's called? It's not a V-line.

Tommy: Fun fact, uh, Cameron of the IE, Struthless, who we had on the show, he named that brand. It's his friend's brand, and he threw out some business names, uh, brand names, and he picked the one that he came up with. Isn't that cool? Where have you got step one from? Like, you are a guy that goes for the cheapest, but you also like quality. So I'm trying to work out which one you went for.

Unknown: Well, I feel like, like Josh, I've had a bit of a rebrand. I feel like I'm moving towards the more high qual stuff. And so I was gonna go Bonds, which I mean, Bonds isn't, Bonds is probably generic quality, But I saw all the reviews online and these ones were the go-tos. So Ozbar again, product review.

Tommy: Can I just take a moment here? Can I take a moment for the person that reviews undies online? What do you got going on, dude? You got much on?

Josh: I think that's great. What do you like doing?

Tommy: If you can do that, if you can— No, it's just— Is he not getting paid for it or? Hang on, just think about it for a moment. Think about it for a moment. You, you almost have to just go with the brand, which is not always the case, that has most reviews. Because some— if you had lots of reviews, there could be a lot of negative. But for anyone who's bothering to go online and fucking, you know, write a review for a pair of undies, geez.

Unknown: Yeah, I will say though, they, they, they feel great. They're like the best— I mean, the best way to describe— they're bamboo, but the best way to describe them is probably silky. Yeah, it's a nice feel.

Josh: And I will think is I wonder how they're going to go after a wash. But yeah, what do you get? A quick—

Tommy: well, so this is, this is, this is the great thing.

Unknown: They have one-year warranty on them.

Josh: Oh yeah, here we go.

Tommy: So surely it's a— don't worry about sending back your shitty undies. No, no, no.

Josh: Is it like, can people sort of, um, like, does it count if you've just destroyed them yourself with an accident? Is it only sort of wear damage?

Unknown: It is, it is, yeah. So, if there's like stitching issues or, yeah, I don't know, something happens to them or whatever, they're losing their shape, they've got 1-year warranty. So, you can just take them back and, not take them back, you just message them and they'll send you a new pair. But Sarah said her husband won't wear anything but Step One, Which is, I feel like that's who I could be. I could definitely be that guy. Move towards step one.

Tommy: Be Mr. Step One. No, I don't mind.

Josh: George, do you have any brands of things that you sort of really align yourself with? You only buy a certain brand of something?

George: Nah, not at all.

Josh: Do you switch your deodorant every time? Are you that sort of a—

Unknown: Oh, no, no.

George: I get the same deodorant, but I, this hoodie, I got from, um, AS Color. Oh yeah, and ordered them. I ordered 2 hoodies and they came like the next day. So I think I'm a bit hooked on that.

Josh: Well, the Daily Talk Show hoodies are AS Color, and yeah, that's not that impressive, but they arrive.

George: Yeah, but they're comfy and they came so quickly and they're cheap.

Josh: So you would love to walk in and walk out same day.

George: Where's this?

Josh: Kmart or any shop, any shopping centre you can walk in and walk out.

Unknown: Coles.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, man.

Tommy: Have you been shopping lately, George?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Jesus. Hey, um, Josh, how are you? How are you feeling?

Josh: Oh, I was feeling horrendous, to be honest. I tried to have a nap. I've never had it. I haven't had a nap in about— anytime I say I have a nap, it basically means I'm going to scroll on my phone and feel a bit depressed.

Tommy: Did you nap today?

Josh: No, I tried 10 minutes before I ended up having a shower just because I was feeling just, I'm actually on the black coffee, which at 4:15 is an absolute nightmare.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm gonna coffee, you'll be buzzing tonight. I mean, it could be, people could be mistaken for thinking that it's, you know, the demise of Virgin Australia, you know, closely associate your brand with Virgin Australia, you know. I have— I thought I saw once blue neons coming from you like Virgin Australia does with their branding.

Josh: It's more of a purple.

Tommy: No, but what, um, your points are useless.

Josh: No, it's— no, well, so they've just— they've paused them. But this is the thing, okay, my theory is because I could have got the AirPod Pros, which I wanted to get, but it's very hard to get that deal. Bree knows my bullshit, so she knows that anything that I spin in regards to we've got to use these now could also— it's like the PS4, because I, I wanted to buy a PS4 with the, um, the points, everything. Like, I can't get anything. But yeah, so they've paused them.

Tommy: Okay, so because I saw someone jump on and click on the frequent flyer program, whatever it is, and it doesn't even go anywhere. It's like not going anywhere.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Hey, um, and so you're not, you're not annoyed about that? Well, so my theory—

Josh: so I had 137,000 But my theory with it is, is that everyone would have been selling their points or also not selling their points, they would have been using them, they would have been buying gift cards, redeeming them. Exactly. And so my theory is that when we can fly, all of a sudden those points will be worth something and you can get some really great things like with the points. The best use, actually, Sev, you should get around this. I feel like you could really get into Virgin with the WA, the Perth route. They run the international style business class, which is The Business. And so, you can use points to upgrade that. So, I feel like—

Tommy: You're speaking pretty confidently like they're gonna come back.

Josh: I think they will.

Unknown: Yeah, they'll come back. Yeah, they're too big to not come back.

Josh: What's gonna happen? Like, you don't want just one airline to be ruling them all. I think the point was— but don't you think it was interesting? They were saying like, it was sort of obviously pushing that they're disappointed that the government's not bailing them out, but they're still getting JobKeeper, they're still getting all this other shit. They're just not being helped with that, you know, $5 billion or whatever you were talking about.

Tommy: Um, yeah, yeah, the debt they're in. Oh, I heard this morning a pilot who's been with Virgin for 12 years now works at Woolworths. So he's been stood down and whether he gets that JobKeeper or not, he didn't even mention that.

Josh: So could we get one of them to fly, fly the plane? And, you know, we wanted to do sort of a virtual flight to Dubai.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of pilots that have got a bit of time on their hands at the moment. All of them. Anyone who works for Virgin.

Josh: They don't do the A380 though, so we might have to—

Tommy: They're going to— That's why, I mean, getting them back up, I know what you're saying, Josh, it's big enough that it's, they're too big to fail. But isn't that the problem with businesses that are too big to not fail? It like becomes a trap where they've got a stranglehold on the market. Amazon, too big to fail. If that blew up tomorrow, there's, what is it, 30,000 jobs in America or more? Like how many people they employ.

Josh: But I guess think about it this way, like what would happen if, was just Qantas, if that was the only flights you could book, that'd be so expensive. So I feel like, like, um, the Treasurer came out and said this isn't like an Ansett situation. And so I think that the way that you're looking at it is it's either stimulus or they're completely fucked. But if 90% of their ownership is overseas and they're going into administration, surely, like, it's going to change things up, but surely that will mean like there's heaps of other— yeah, obviously the government's putting the pressure on to say, hey, you're a private organization, sort your shit out, try and do all the other things rather before, you know, knocking on our door.

Tommy: Oh, 100%. I think how annoying, like, they've done so well to get their business to a point. Like, think about how good it is to fly with Virgin. It's so fucking annoying that they've built it up because it wasn't always like that. Did you fly Virgin Blue? Back in the day.

Josh: V Australia as well. But they always had that whole like, like employees of Virgin were always slightly more attractive, both like male and female. Like that was sort of the whole— that was Richard Branson's shtick.

Unknown: It's a little brand filter.

Josh: Yeah, brand filter is that. So there's a lot of— yeah, I haven't noticed that.

Tommy: Uh, no, not really. I mean, the thing about cabin crew is all of them are looking dolled up, like, you know, the men, the women, they're all looking, you know, tight little pants on the men, you know, they're probably wearing Step One undies, you know, looking good. It's, um, it's all the same.

Josh: Yeah, it's a— but in the— at the end of the day, it sort of is like a hospo job, isn't it?

Tommy: Uh, what do you mean?

Josh: Well, it's literally delivering food, like, it's It's—

Tommy: I'm sure they would think it's something a bit more, uh, do you reckon?

Josh: I think that it's pretty—

Tommy: my next door neighbour is number 6 in Victoria. Number 6. She was telling me what that meant. 6. She's been employed through Qantas for 40 years. I'll explain. As cabin crew, I think it's employee number 6.

Josh: Oh, that's impressive.

Tommy: That still works for the business in Victoria as a cabin crew. So I said to her, um, how do you do, like, your 'How do you work out what your roster is and shit?' She said to us, which she doesn't fly them anymore because they've all been relieved, I think, because there's no flights going on for the moment. She said, 'We're on a group email and we, within the top whatever, top 10 or top 6 or whatever it is, we send out an email to each other saying, hey, I want this shift, what are you— anyone else keen on?' You know, so it's like a bit of a pecking order. So they just work out their roster together.

Josh: Interesting.

Tommy: I mean, that's what you get for flying for 40 years. But I mean, yeah, very—

Josh: I wonder how they look after their skin and stuff. I feel like you'd get pretty dry.

Tommy: Actually, Jackie's got great skin. Yeah.

Josh: I didn't say anything about Jackie, to be clear.

Tommy: No, but I'm just saying, like, if you're— I know someone who's been a 40-year vet. It's like, you'd think if you were piling on, you know, a layer of makeup. I don't think all of them do it. Maybe, maybe she doesn't.

Josh: I'm thinking more the dry of the, the atmosphere. Like, I just—

Tommy: oh, I thought you meant— I mean, because, you know, they wear a lot of makeup, don't you think?

Josh: There's also— that's all right. There's the height restriction around. I think we're going to go next delivery.

Unknown: Oh, here we go. No way.

Josh: I've sent him Domino's. Actually, I haven't really sent him.

George: Imagine.

Josh: This is exciting. So we've We've organised a bit of gear. Here we go, let's listen. It's quite, quite upset. Something so exciting. Isn't it great getting mail?

Tommy: Oh yeah, no signature required. It just was left on the door. I was about to run after him because he— I saw him going back to his car. But anyway, got it. Thank you, FedEx.

Josh: Oh great, it can pick you up.

Unknown: Like, are we opening it on the show or it's It's pretty boring.

Tommy: It's too hard to get into it.

Unknown: Oh, okay.

Josh: It's a chord.

Unknown: Okay.

Tommy: It's very, very boring. Hey, just on the travel stuff, I was thinking like, I haven't gone on— sometimes I do it when I'm a bit restless back in the old days, i.e., 6 months ago, look at what it costs to fly places. Have you guys done this? Have you searched a location, just seen how much it costs?

Josh: Well, do you remember this was only thinking— yeah, go on, George.

George: It'd probably be more expensive I was assuming if you wanted to fly to like, um, Canberra or something, I would just assume that it would be more expensive now than usual.

Josh: And, well, would it be cheaper?

Tommy: Well, you haven't looked. I did this just before. I haven't looked at LA. I was thinking, what would it cost to get to LA at the moment?

Josh: And can you even get searching Canberra, TJ? No interest.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, you know, sorry, Joel, that's raging.

George: I was doing domestic because, well, you can't do international, so Well, this is, um, so can you not fly in?

Tommy: So I wanted to know, I wanted to see if it even showed up. Like, that's the thing, right? I thought you couldn't fly.

Josh: Are the borders closed? What's it— what's the deal? Have we closed the borders?

Unknown: Uh, different states have done different things to incoming people, but maybe, maybe you can't come in. Maybe you're not like— international travel into Australia is forbidden. But hang on, I should probably—

Josh: I have a feeling that you can't— like, Australian citizens can come back in, but it's— yeah, come home, but it has to be, um, yeah, maybe you have to have like a reason to travel. It can't just be because flights are cheap. But yeah, what'd you find?

Unknown: There's a ban on all overseas travel.

Josh: Okay, okay.

Tommy: Well, it still says I still could process this payment of $6,964 to LA leaving next Thursday. I don't know, I wonder if you could even put it through and if they would honour it, or like it, you know, honour the credit or whatever it is. So this is, you fly Melbourne to Sydney, then you fly Sydney to San Francisco, San Francisco to Los Angeles. It's pretty straightforward. And then the same way back. That's, um, I did search before and it had like it ending up in Ontario, like it couldn't get into the States.

Josh: Do you remember, um, sure, maybe, um, Ontario, it could have been Ontario California.

Tommy: Oh, is there a California?

Josh: Yeah, just out of LA.

Tommy: So I reckon they fly into Ontario.

Josh: That's probably why. It's probably a smaller, smaller thing.

Tommy: Ridiculous though that you can even buy this, or that you can book. Travel insurance? No. Um, ridiculous.

Josh: It's good fun.

Tommy: I mean, I mean, I like seeing how much it is. $6,000, nearly $7,000.

George: That's crazy.

Tommy: Whether you can get it or not.

Josh: Do you remember when I, um, It was only like, what, probably 6 weeks ago that Bri and I went away. Where do we go? Mornington Peninsula or whatever. No, no, no. What's it called? Where they've got the— that fell that time. Look at what I'm doing.

Tommy: Cape Shore.

Josh: Arthur's Seat. For people who don't know, there's an Arthur's Seat chairlift that famously collapsed once. But no, when we were staying there, we were looking. This was just before all the shit hit the fan. And I was looking at flights, and flights to LA, it was like $600 return. And I said to Bree, I'm like, nah, we're doing it, we're booking it. And then, uh, Bree gets funny about, um, getting annual leave. She doesn't like putting too much pressure on her employer. She never— she's always been like that. And I was just like, nah, we're doing it, we're booking. And so anyway, she went to her work and just said, hey guys, I'm taking time, going to LA in June, blah, blah, blah. And then they were like, is it a good idea? Like, you know, with all the— it's early days coronavirus, but you know, don't know where it's going. And Bree's like, nah, like, I'm taking my annual leave. And she came home and said, um, yeah, pushed and it's all happening. I'm like, oh, we're not going, it's not safe. She was slightly strewing the— yeah.

Tommy: But I think it was the right thing to do not to buy it.

Josh: If we'd bought them, we would have lost them, lost the flights.

Tommy: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Are you still— like, for people who still have scheduled annual leave within these times, I mean, we're looking at one of them right now. George Martin's on annual leave right now, which is our time. Like, it all feels just kind of weird. Like, it feels like it's annoying to have your annual leave fall on these times when you can't do shit.

Josh: I was wondering about that, Tam. You've been out and about just at the beach. What have you been doing?

Unknown: Can I just say, George, the shot's looking great, mate.

George: Is it? Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I got it going, so.

Josh: Yeah, the camera. And so you're on your annual leave. Are you feeling looser? Are you drinking during the week?

George: Nah, well, actually, the annual leave doesn't start till the 28th, I think. But I was actually on, because I do work for an ad agency. On the occasion. I had to send a, um, set up an auto-reply email today, and you guys always give me shit for my tech abilities, but I reckon this is probably, probably my worst.

Josh: The Ethernet was pretty annoying. That was like 2 minutes before the show.

George: I realised I've never actually set up—

Josh: yeah, just, just before you go on the tech, I just want to just, just the the tech thing for a bit. It's not that you're bad at tech, it's that you, for whatever reason, there's a part of your brain that doesn't see the importance of these things. So there's a prioritisation issue. So when you got everything ready, did you think that all of a sudden the Wi-Fi thing, like, it wasn't going to be a problem anymore? What was the actual— or is it because you are so nice, you're like, I don't want to bother them with the Ethernet thing? I'll just let it through and hopefully they don't notice.

George: I just forgot, to be honest. That's fine.

Josh: And so anyway, so the email, what's—

George: yeah, so, so I set up an auto-reply email today. It's the first time I've ever done this. Um, I usually, I just let it go. I just can't be bothered dealing with auto-reply stuff. And so I've set it up on the Apple Mail, uh, app and I accidentally selected to reply to every single email that I've ever received from that company.

Josh: I've done this before. I literally did this in 2011 after 4-Hour Workweek. Sent an email saying, hi everyone, I'm not checking my emails between these times. Sent it to it. And so, how many people did you email, do you reckon?

George: So, it just kept going like ding, ding, ding, ding. Like just, it was nonstop. I couldn't even, I couldn't stop it. It was going crazy. I was trying to like quit stuff. I was going to my preferences. It just kept coming up with this like undelivered and then this code, this weird thing. Then I'm getting emails from like the big execs there saying, what's going on? Like, you know, I've got 100 emails in the last minute. It's just going reply, reply, reply, reply. Because I've got like thousands of emails in this account. And so it's replying to— it's sending emails to like the printer. It's sending emails to everything.

Josh: How many times did you print? Your order was— And so, so you know, I was getting—

George: So then I— Yeah, that's my last day. So then the tech guy was on to me and he was like controlling my screen, trying to sort everything out. Had to pretty much shut down my email address, had to send out like a bulk email to everyone in the company saying, yes, we are aware of this situation. We're working on it. And then it would have been—

Josh: Have you ever been described as a situation before?

George: No, I think that was my first time. But so this is—

Josh: Do you feel embarrassed?

George: Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing. It was heaps embarrassing. I've just sent out like— just yeah, anyway.

Tommy: So, so you deleted the email address off your computer?

George: So yeah, so I first had to like make it offline, and then the IT guy came in and he, um, he basically like deleted— oh, they had to block it from the server on their end. So it was still, it was still coming out of my mail, but they had to like fix some IT thing.

Josh: Could you not quit Apple Mail?

George: Yeah, I did that, but it was still— for some reason, the way it was set up was it was, it was working through through the server or something. The server or something. Yes. I didn't understand that.

Tommy: That's so good.

George: But so whatever I did on my end just—

Unknown: That would make sense. Yeah.

George: Yeah. George has just been given a pager.

Tommy: Very low mistakes can be made on a pager these days.

George: Yeah. Yeah. So they had to block it on their end and then I had to like wipe all my emails and it's just a nightmare. But so yeah. So that's it for me for that company, I think.

Josh: And you were saying you're— I mean, I was feeling rattled today, but you were— you're feeling sort of low spirits in regards to the edit at the moment for the Hump Day replay.

George: Oh yeah, it's, uh, it's just— I mean, I would like to be a bit further in than I am, but it'll get there. I think it's— it'll be fine. I'm pumped. Bring your Prosecco.

Josh: Are you really pumped?

George: Yeah, I am.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, open up, George. You're in a safe space. How do you feel?

Josh: It's okay not to be okay.

George: What are you not happy with?

Tommy: Stop this toxic masculinity.

Josh: Yeah, open up.

Tommy: It's ridiculous, buddy.

Josh: Have the hard conversations now.

Unknown: Yeah, bring them forward, George.

George: I just need to figure out like a proper structure for the next video. Yeah, it's getting there. And I've added a few things in. I've got a few ideas. And it's— I'm just worried that it's not that funny, but it's going to be funny, you know? I mean, I'm in that— yeah, just the day before it comes out, you're sort of doubting it.

Tommy: Okay, great.

George: It's not that big a deal.

Unknown: Grace says we believe in you, George.

George: It's not that big a deal.

Josh: But it needs to be good.

George: It'll be great.

Unknown: It needs to be good.

Josh: I mean, like, I, to be honest, I don't— like, I was just going to let it go. But the whole intro of this morning's show—

Unknown: Oh!

Josh: It actually impacts my mental health.

Tommy: I hope you have realized, Josh, in our relationship that I don't need to beat you up mostly when you fuck up because you beat yourself up bad.

George: Mm-hmm.

Tommy: It's young Mr 97 who doesn't have that filter that just comes out swinging.

Josh: Just ohh, ahhh, pfft. He thought it was the funniest thing ever. But not—

Unknown: it was funny.

Josh: It was just— and so for people who don't know, um, uh, Jason, our accountant, came on the show. And, uh, there I was rattled because it's actually— I don't want to blame anyone, but George, the reason why the intro was fucked was because I had to do a 3-shot because from the last show because of your camera issues. And so I'd forgotten I'd done that. And so we'd gotten to the intro and it automated the 3-shot, and I could tell Tommy was straight away rattled because he's like, oh, where's Jason? And so where's our guest? So then Tommy felt like he had to say something because he's like, fuck, can Josh see this? I'm just gonna— all right. And then I saw Tommy's reaction, then panicked and cut to 97. When I cut to 97, I then work out the 4-shot. I cut to the 4-shot and I announce Jason Robinson on the show from— and I say PGA Advisory, which is not his company. And so in that moment, obviously I feel sick. I feel absolutely sick.

Tommy: I corrected it.

Unknown: Your heart drops. Yeah.

Josh: And then I threw to him, then I went to talking about his neck massage tool, which I had no plan on mentioning in the first 30 seconds. But because everything that had happened, I just couldn't handle it.

Tommy: I mean, I watched it back. What did you say? Like, oh, fucked it. Oh, oh.

Josh: I mean, when a guest says, can we start again on a live show? It sort of, it really rattles you. It's the equivalent of like, I mean, I was thinking about it. I was like, what would it be the equivalent of? And I think like from a personal situation, it's the equivalent of having sex with your partner and saying someone else's name midway through. Same sort of vibe. Oh yeah.

Tommy: Dude, I've done it. I've done that.

Josh: You've done it? How did it go?

Tommy: I've done that. Not this relationship, otherwise I wouldn't be bringing it up, but I did. I said it. Bad.

Josh: And what happened? Did you mention PGA?

Tommy: No, I said— what did I say? It wasn't— yeah, I said the per— I said someone else's name. I was so pissed. I was so pissed. I ended up dating that person for a very long time. I remember we dated for a long time, but it was definitely a hard thing.

Josh: And so how do you go back? I guess it sort of all stops then and there.

Tommy: Uh, I think it was towards the end or something. Yeah, God.

Unknown: Shannon says she's done the same thing.

Tommy: Yeah, Shannon, I feel you, babe. I feel you.

Josh: My boyfriend wasn't happy. I mean, George, you were sort of nodding your head in agreement. Is this, is this an issue?

George: No, I've never done it, but I've heard storeys of people doing it. But the worst is if you do it and it's like you say your sister's name or something. Yeah.

Unknown: Oh yeah, that's, yeah, that's not a good idea.

Tommy: Child's Oh, your child. That's even worse. I was interviewing Taylor Lautner, that hunk of a man from Twilight. You know that dude who plays the wolf? Plays the wolf in Twilight. He was in this film and he came out to Australia and I was on the red carpet and I got called out for this in the YouTube video that I published. I said his name, Taylor Lautner, thanks for joining us, blah blah blah. And you see me just look and you can see in the background the poster of the film's name because I take this massive pause before I say, thanks for coming down to talk about blah blah blah. And you just— and someone wrote in the comments like, he fucking forgot the name of the film. Because I did see in the background the name, so I was saved by the poster.

Josh: I mean, it is an anxiety, I think, around like saying the wrong person's name or even MCing something and just, you know, get—

Tommy: Oh my God, what about me? Um, Hulk Smash Food.

Josh: Oh, that's right.

Tommy: And, uh, who's, who's a competitive eater. And there's another competitive eater named, uh, hang on, hang on. I like him. I love him. If I was to pick one that I like, it's him. Hulk Smash Food and, oh, uh, Warrior Stomp?

Josh: Stomp Warrior?

Unknown: No, Stomp Warrior.

Tommy: Oh God, I've forgotten his name again, but I called him Hulk. Smack! I said— called him Hulk as well. Hulk. It was not even his name.

Josh: No.

Tommy: And he was miming to me. It's, um, what is his name? Fuck, I've forgotten it. It's just annoying. See, this is the problem when you— when you— I've never had an issue with it, but it's like I've now cemented an issue based on that one incident where now I just cannot Remember?

Josh: Yeah, you almost like it becomes a bit of a thing. But I was thinking like, what are some of the— I feel like I was potentially over— I think I've overworked my brain lately, to be honest.

George: Really? Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, we've been doing a lot of shows. We do 12 shows a week.

Josh: I think it was more the chores. I reckon like all the— if you think about it. So this is the sort of fuck up that I had this morning with the chores. Um, I put everything out to wash and then, um, waited an hour or whatever because we're doing the show before I then hung them all out. And then I hung them all out and Bree said, um, oh, it's, it's done the thing where it doesn't smell like it. They— it doesn't, it doesn't smell clean. And then I remembered I didn't fucking put any detergent in the washing machine. And so I just feel like I'm starting to fucking lose my mind. I'm forgetting these things.

Tommy: Yeah, that list is long. That list is long, and you've taken up a lot in a short period of time. What happened to tiny habits, baby? After you brush your teeth, just wash your pants.

Josh: What are you, um, are you being inspired? Do you think that you do it— you guys are doing more at home after you're seeing all my Insta stories?

Tommy: If, if anything, it just made me think about the baseline of shit I do without posting about it.

Josh: What do you do?

Tommy: I emptied the dishwasher, put on, uh, put on the washing, do all the vacuuming in the house, sweeping, um, putting the bins out, all of that shit. But I mean, I haven't even thought about that. I— the only thing I do think is I'm doing more based on being at home. Yeah, just because I'm noticeably seeing the shit everywhere and I'm like, I can't—

Josh: when would you sweep rather than vacuum? I don't, I don't see the point of sweeping. Sweeping seems like a sort of a dumb thing to do.

Tommy: I mean, not to flex, but our floor space in our downstairs is twice the size of your apartment. That's what— but, and it's floorboards, so it's annoying because it's like, I do vacuum it, but it's also there, I guess. Yeah, when it is a wider space, it is actually more effective just doing a quick sweep, like you get the solid bits, and then you vacuum them up. Sometimes, and then I give it all over. If I'm going harder, then give it all the vacuum. But I've got a cyclonic and we've got sort of thick carpet, and so, and it's so rewarding. It's my— it's one of my favourite things to do. Put some headphones in and vacuum, and with a cyclonic. If it's not a cyclonic, I don't want it. Cyclonic vacuum is one that you see the spinning like a cyclone dirt, and so you're actually seeing the particles of the the dust and the dirt and the shit that you're picking up. And so the non-cyclonic— I'm sure they're cyclonic, but that's the term, cyclonic vacuum. Never heard.

Josh: I mean, George, I mean, I think the Dysons are— the Dyson cyclonic, definitely.

Tommy: You're the one you've got.

Josh: I just call them bagless.

Tommy: Yeah, bagless. Oh no, the cyclonic. So you can— the one I've got, I'm just looking at the cyclonic Cyclonic vacuum cleaners. Most vacuums use the suck and bag the dirt process until the late 1980s, when another British engineer, Dyson, Mr. Dyson, felt it was time to go, um, one better. Uh, the trouble with the old-style vacuum cleaners is that they suck in dirt air, dirty air, and blow it directly into the bag. Mate, yeah, cyclonics are the way forward.

Josh: I think we're actually thinking about moving away from our Dyson because we need to get a new—

Unknown: really?

Josh: Trevor says, "Get a Dyson stick vacuum. Sweeping is rubbish," says Trev. Which, Trev's done that in all capitals too. Trev's come straight from Twitter to YouTube with his stick on, which I appreciate. No, I agree with Trev. I'm surprised Trev's not using one of the smart sort of Roombas or things like that.

Unknown: Robot ones, yeah.

Tommy: To be honest, the two guys that have mentioned this both have the stick style vacuum. If I had one like yours, Josh, I would definitely use it downstairs because you can just have it even with the size of your place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, I would. If I like, I think I would do that more rather than hold off and then sweep and it'd be a lot. Like I'd give it a once over, but mate, get that Roomba, get that fucking thing, get Quad Lock Get Rob Ward— see, nearly had a brain fart there— Rob Ward, get his brand vacuum cleaner that's automatic. It's sick, goes on carpet, goes over rugs.

Josh: I mean, one thing that, um, that's the order. Yeah, well, George was saying in the comments on the different, um, chores I should do, mopping. I thought mopping's a very— like, can't you just wipe down your floor with the sort of a, like, a paper towel?

George: Steam mop, Josh. Get a steam mop, you'd love it. It's just water, you don't need anything else, and it just dries as you go. I reckon that's right up your alley.

Tommy: And so I actually agree.

George: Shine the floors.

Josh: Well, it used to be a thing, like, um, on the same channel that Geoff Jowett used to sell his, um, cookies.

Tommy: Cookies!

Josh: They would sell the steamers. The steamers were the big thing, but, um, I don't know, I just feel like it could be quite clunky. It could take up a lot of space in the apartment for something that you only really— Have you got one, George?

George: Yeah, yeah, we got one from Kogan. Okay, it does the job.

Josh: How often are you using it?

Tommy: It does the job.

Unknown: Does the job.

George: That's the motto.

Josh: Sounds like—

George: Once a week, I reckon.

Unknown: Okay, or so how much do you pay for it? Did you pay like $50 for it, or?

George: Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't, wasn't that expensive. It was like $50, $60 or something. $60.

Josh: Russ says steam mop not good on wooden boards. Uh, boards. Yeah, floorboards.

George: Yeah. Oh really?

Josh: Yeah.

George: Um, that's what we're using.

Josh: Oh, here he goes. Uh, Trev says I'll send a robot vacuum down to Tommy to review. Epic on hard floor places. Can you use the 360 GoPro he gave us to TJ to do the review on top of it?

Tommy: Put it on top.

Unknown: Yeah, that'd be cool.

Tommy: Send it around. Mate, are they kid-proof? Like if Bodie jumped on it, did a, you know, from the top ropes, probably survive?

Josh: Or tell him not to.

Tommy: And what are you getting paid for the review once I hand it in? Are you—

Josh: this is a piece of, uh, you could be on a current affair or something, get around that.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I would, I'd love to see it, love to see it.

Josh: George, what's, um, Hannah cooking? I heard you speaking to Hannah before, she was asking milk or cream. What are you making?

George: Green curry. Yeah, she was asking if we need coconut milk or coconut cream.

Josh: Okay.

George: That's a good question.

Tommy: What is it? Did you say answer?

George: I said I prefer cream, but you can just, you can use whatever. You can use either.

Unknown: Is that for its thickness?

George: Yeah, just for the creamy, creamy thickness of it. Yeah, like Thai curries have got a bit of creaminess to them. So, it should be lovely. Can't wait. But last night we had our Attica. How was it?

Tommy: You guys are all fiends. Yeah, fiends for that top-end delivery. What's going on? Is it worth jumping on the bandwagon or is this another Pete Shepherd pushback? Like, too good.

George: No way. No way. It was nice. I loved it. We had the lasagna, the garlic bread. Salad and ice cream for dessert. Ice cream was a little too sweet for me, but, um, it was—

Josh: Oh, did you have it? It had ants in it, didn't it?

George: No, our one did— our one was different to yours. It was an apple crumble.

Tommy: Um, crumble, but it's, you know, up there with tones, and I couldn't really care for it.

George: Yeah, exactly.

Josh: Did you have, um, did you have some wine with it, or what'd you— what'd you pair it with?

George: Yeah, we had some red. Had some nice Pinot with it.

Josh: Was it from your housemate, or did you have to ask him?

George: Yeah, yeah, I asked him. I said, which one can I crack? And he said any, any of them. So yeah, that's good.

Tommy: Did you get what you wanted there?

Unknown: That sounds good, George.

George: That's about it. You get what you want, boys.

Josh: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I was just thinking, he fucking— he was saying that he wants to do his own tax because he can't afford an accountant, but he's fucking getting Attica on a Monday. It's A little bit of reach.

Unknown: Yeah, mate, dial in your priorities.

Josh: Yeah, I think you could.

George: The Uber driver was impressed.

Josh: What do you mean?

George: Because I got it delivered to the office and then I Ubered home and he was like, oh, you want dinner tonight? I was like, yeah, got Attica.

Tommy: What?

George: Wait till I tell the missus about this, she'll be bloody jealous.

Tommy: Is this Russ Keys driving?

Josh: Did the Uber driver say this?

George: Yeah, the Uber driver was saying this.

Josh: Did you have to heat it up?

George: No, no, it was, um, it was good to go. It was, that was nice. You guys should get it, Tommy.

Josh: It was good. I mean, we had the, um, the garlic bread, I think, is the, uh, is the highlight for me.

George: Yeah, that was nice.

Josh: Lasagna in general, I'm not much of a lasagna guy. I've never ordered lasagna at a restaurant. Anyway, good.

Tommy: I'm sorry, just to get out, just sort of to bring us to an 11, uh, Trevor said, uh, oh, here I am offering a $999 robot vacuum and Tommy questions what I'm getting paid for publishing the review. Sorry, mate, I didn't know you're fucking giving it to me. Uh, you know I'll do anything if you give it to me. What, like, I didn't know it was $999. Jesus Christ. You can post it, you can get paid, whatever you want.

Josh: You've really come around, haven't you?

Tommy: Well, I didn't know. I think it's just sending it. Would you just— if someone said, I'll send you something to do a review on, would you do it?

Josh: Well, I've stopped giving out books to friends to borrow because I just never get them back.

Tommy: So do you still have one of my books?

Josh: You want it back? It was your— you gave it to me, but it wasn't clear.

Unknown: It's actually Dad's book.

Josh: Is Dad asking for them?

Unknown: No, but I would, I think I would like it back. It would sit really nice to hang up, yeah, up there. There you go.

Josh: They're a bit long for your shelf, to be honest. But have we got any emails, Sebbs?

Unknown: Yeah, we got an email from Ian. He said, g'day boys, just wanted to say congratulations on an epic TDTS formal. I thought it was a huge success. It was great that everybody went to the effort of dressing up and it looked great in the Zoom room.

Josh: Ian looked fantastic, by the way. He looked really good in that bow tie. The whole thing looked real primo, a custom job.

Unknown: He said, I must admit, I still find it weird getting together with a bunch of people I've never met and probably would never have met in real life to listen to you guys and drink beers. Although I am loving it, particularly in this strange time of isolation. It feels so good to be able to connect with people, listen talk and just let go of the serious stuff for a while and have some fun and shots. You asked me for a guess. I can't remember.

Tommy: Sounds like you did, baby.

Josh: I mean, we could potentially—

George: maybe we could.

Josh: Is that a new thing that you've worked out?

Unknown: How long did you do that?

Josh: Planning that? Here we go. He's really shocked. So Tommy is zooming in with his camera. How did you— when did you learn that?

Tommy: Oh mate, I just, you know, I told you the guys this morning I'm pretty tech savvy. Oh, that was yesterday.

George: Sure, it's—

Tommy: I actually have set it up so that when I do my, um, when I do my TikTok smile, it just jumps in on my face. That's all it's doing.

Unknown: Yeah, you gotta dial that.

Tommy: But yeah, Ian, what a legend, mate. Ian, I— we, we were, we were saying, come on, Ian, loosen up, big fella, let's get dancing, let's see it. And he was just into it. He's just Moving his arms, loved it. It was so great.

Unknown: I get around his, um, I get around his workouts on Instagram as well. Just like always Instagram storeys of like, here's, I'm about to do my workout, or just killed it.

Tommy: Yeah, it's great. He ain't no poser. He's getting it done. Yeah, he's absolutely getting it done.

Josh: I mean, the shots thing, I think, is definitely because I'm, as I said, I'm moving away from the wine for the next Friday night drinks, but there could be some sort of, um, drinking game that involves shots. Maybe like, say, within the 20-minute mark or something. Like, I feel like we could time it out.

Tommy: Shannon, how many shots did you have? In the comments, let us know. I had, uh, I had, um, what did I end up having? Fucking Baileys, shot of that. I had a shot of vodka. Had a shot of tequila. Oh God, now it's all coming back.

Josh: Leah says, George, please put Tommy's shots in the video tomorrow.

George: Yeah, I've time-coded it, Leah. It's all good.

Tommy: We've got that.

Josh: But so this, um, just to be clear, this Friday, no theme.

Tommy: So no theme, no theme, just a fun one Friday, you know, end of the week, get popping.

Josh: Any updates, uh, Sevs, on the VIP Gronks WhatsApp? We went really hard yesterday saying, guys, It's happening. We're moving to WhatsApp. This is big. No more are we just talking shit. We're actually doing something now. It's happening. Where are we at?

Unknown: Well, so a couple of things. Um, one thing—

Josh: you have to mention API. It's too inside baseball.

Unknown: Okay, I wasn't gonna— I wasn't gonna mention the API. We can go into it.

Josh: No, no, go.

Tommy: What's that thing you mentioned in meetings, Josh? Um, At one point you were mentioning in meetings and I was like, you lost him at IAB 2.0 compliance.

Unknown: IAB 2.0 compliance.

Tommy: Yeah, you lost him in IAB 2.0.

Josh: Do you remember the first time we met Grant Smiley? Went out to lunch and Tully introduced us, her new friends. And he said, so what podcast host do you use? And I'm like, well, so we're IAB 2.0 compliant. Client, uh, we're independent, um, and he, uh, I don't know if he was that interested. So go on, Seb. So what's happening with the VIP Gronks?

Unknown: Well, so the, the first problem was that people who are— who have my number in their contacts book, the WhatsApp account shows up as Mason instead of the Daily Talk Show, which isn't ideal because that was because we're going to use your phone number as the show phone number. Yep, but so I think the, the solution is to get like a $10 SIM or whatever and put it into a phone.

Josh: Okay.

Unknown: And then we're good to go.

Josh: And so then, so what you're saying is if I go to Coles tonight, get a SIM card, put it into my 7 Plus, and that can just have like WhatsApp on it, then you're going to send all of the VIP Gronkh's contacts to this WhatsApp, and then are you going to set up WhatsApp on the computers so that we can all write back? Is that the idea?

Unknown: Yeah, exactly. The only thing is I haven't figured out how to do WhatsApp broadcasts on the desktop apps, so that might have to be done.

Josh: So what's a WhatsApp broadcast?

Unknown: Well, it's like a— it's pretty much like Friday night drinks, here's your Zoom link, and it just sends it to everyone., and it does. It's pretty much BCC.

Josh: Okay, so we'll do that. So I'll, um, on Friday night— sorry, on my, um, my walk right now, I'll go and I'll get the SIM card.

Tommy: I love it.

Unknown: Okay, great. It has to have a plan attached to it. It can't just be like a SIM unless you want to redeem the SIM card online. You can figure that out.

Josh: I'll just do like a $50— like a prepaid, right?

Tommy: Prepaid is prepaid fine.

George: That's what I thought you could do. But dude, I haven't—

Tommy: I haven't got— I bought— I have my number, which is an— it was Optus originally. It starts with 0401, which is pretty OG. It, uh, I bought it from 7-Eleven in Garden Vale, and I rode down on me pushy and paid $30 for it in grade 6. I got $30 of credit. What do you— I mean, they're so cheap now, but I just— I was underage. I didn't, you know Bought a pack of ciggies at the same time. No, I didn't. But you know, like, you didn't need anything to prove. Now, like, is it easy? Is it literally just buying, then you kind of activate it with some code?

Josh: Well, we did it with, um, 3D Deal with no problem. Trev says prepaid is fine.

Tommy: All right, Trev's on it.

Josh: Real Inky Doo says, what about a Discord/Viber? So Real Inky Doo, we tried Discord, but it was a problem because everyone had to download that app. It was sort of a new app that people had to, uh, to learn.

Tommy: And so, um, Josh, everyone, sorry, you could hand this out to Mason. You could just hand this out to Mason. Trev said go to Aldi, get their SIM, do the 365-day expiry. Mason lives right next to an Audi or an Audi.

Josh: Yeah, there's probably a few hours.

Tommy: Drive down in your Audi to Aldi and get us a SIM.

Josh: The problem is then That— where is it? He's got to put the SIM. Ah, is he gonna make it?

Tommy: I'm trying to—

Unknown: I can see, I can actually, I can— if I get the SIM, because this, it's got two, um, SIM cards, you can— I, I've got a virtual one, so I can plug in a physical one.

Josh: Like, if we set you this task and we're like, hey, everyone, WhatsApp's gonna start working tomorrow, what's the chance that you fuck it up?

Unknown: Well, what's the chance you fuck it up?

Josh: Very low.

Unknown: Oh, I don't know about that.

Josh: How could I—

Tommy: I mean, we've gone inside baseball. If we didn't want to go inside baseball, it's gone well in. Well, uh, we'll get the SIM card sorted. And, um, Sevs, so am I going to send those Whatsies? I think that— let's just stick to your plan.

Josh: Can you get the contact sorted, Sevs, so we can just load them into WhatsApp? Okay.

Tommy: Unbelievable, guys. Unbelievable. I gotta go pick up Bodhi and Amy.

Josh: All right, it's a Daily Talk Show. See you tomorrow at 10 AM, or sorry, 11 AM. That's when we do it, it's 11, isn't it?

Unknown: Mate, you always do that.

Josh: I know. We should just do it at 10. Should we? No, it's fine.

Unknown: I don't mind. Ah, that's too hard to change now.

Josh: Shane Jacobson on the show tomorrow, 11 AM. Join us live, youtube.com/thedailytalkshow. Please, the banter is so strong, as you can hear, the podcast is sounding 110%, so it's a good time to ask. For those 5-star reviews. Just go to the Apple Podcast app, scroll down to the bottom, leave a review, say something nice, give us 5 stars. And, um, I cheque them every day. Haven't had one in about a week. So, um, otherwise we'll, uh, see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.