Sabotaging & Self Serving Beliefs

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's a Daily Talk Show episode 374.

Tommy: Happy Fat Fridays.

Josh: Uh, this is the earliest, one of the earliest times we've ever done a Fat Friday.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I think it plays into our Fat Friday today. So we're not doing breakfast. I've had breakfast. Have you had breakfast?

Josh: This is gonna be my breakfast.

Tommy: No, that's okay. I mean, when it is Fat Friday, I can't judge a man who eats cookies for breakfast.

Josh: I've done it many times before in my life.

Tommy: Let's, uh, no, so, um, just quickly, we are I reckon we jump straight into this because they're sitting right there and I've got the perfect combo. I've got coffee, yeah, fresh batch, and there's cookies that have arrived.

Josh: So when would you go a hot chocolate over a coffee?

Tommy: Oh, today, like right now, I would 100%. What are you doing with your computer, mate?

Josh: I was thinking of moving it. Just because I'm worried about the bumps. That's what I was going to do.

Tommy: Yeah, true. He's a man who takes his eating seriously.

Josh: That's why I just say these laptops have these, like, the keyboard Crumble Catcher.

Tommy: Yeah, it's called a Crumble Catcher.

Josh: They are, they're horrendous, but they actually can ruin your, like, letters. You won't be able to press the Y key or whatever.

Tommy: Just quickly, when I, when I first got to Shepparton doing my radio show there, I got it, I got there early, and as in a couple of days early before Candy and I started. And so it was like a Wednesday, she got there on a Friday.

Josh: Did you have your own apartment or something at that point, or a house?

Tommy: Um, did I? Yeah, I think I—

Josh: Yeah, I think I landed— Surely it'd be like a hotel or motel?

Tommy: No, I was put up in a serviced apartment and there was, you know, those apartments where there's a door where you could hire both of them for, you know, a big family. You basically have access through— Motels do it.

Josh: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So just extend the room out.

Josh: Second room.

Tommy: Yeah. Next door there was a guy and you could hear him cutting up ice, as in not cold ice, as in smokable ice. And you could hear kids crying. They were drug dealers. And I could hear them like ripping bongs, you know, it was fuck, it was so—

Josh: Welcome to Shepparton.

Tommy: I know, it was this weird like, and I, and I, and it just made me feel so— I wasn't worried that they were going to come in, but it was just like, it makes you feel eerie because you could hear kids there. And any— anyway, the, the Gronks before me in Shepparton, they had— I guess it's like your car, right? There's a few things about your car that I just see when I get in there. Can I say? Yeah. Your nails that you leave in the side compartments.

George: I did that.

Josh: I did that once.

Tommy: No, I saw them last time. I saw them last time.

Josh: I actually— Bree would be mortified because the thing is, to be honest, she— when I said that we needed the car for Ballarat, she said, Tommy left so much mud all over the car.

Tommy: Dude, it's because we were in the country town.

Josh: Exactly. Well, that's why I said I was like, Ballarat, we're not going to be the farm thing. But I have the nails thing that has been done before.

Tommy: Look, I'll meet you, Josh, because I have like um, toothpicks. And my point is, you're not alone. It's also my dirty gronk.

Josh: It's also my thumb is the size of a fucking house. So when you literally— when we're talking about nails, we're specifically talking about my thumbnail.

Tommy: But my point is, we're all gronks. And you over there, Mr. 97, you fucking think you're clean as a whistle. I bet you would come to your room and there'd be bloody Something, some kind of tissues or something. Something that we could find. 100%, I'd love— we should do a video inspecting Mr. 97's room. Wouldn't that be great?

Josh: Yeah, I mean, I think also growing up, 3 boys, I reckon— I don't know if it's the boys vibe, but I know I remember someone telling me a storey of, um, it was a wedding day and they had to move a couch to get this photo of the whole family, and there was about 10 years worth of nails behind a couch.

Tommy: Oh man.

Josh: So to be clear though, my— the idea with the nails, this is my conundrum. What is more gronky? Putting it in there. This is what— this is my thought process.

Mason: Okay.

Josh: I put it in the side compartment bit.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And to be clear, can you— how clean is our car? Like, it is outside of it.

Tommy: Outside of that. That's why I actually noticed it. Inside it's like—

George: Yeah.

Tommy: It's super clean.

Josh: It's a very clean cut. And so, but the thing is that that little section there, I'm like, I'm going to put it there and I'm going to chuck it out because it feels like that's better than throwing it out the window.

Tommy: No, I don't agree.

Josh: I don't think it's fine to throw it out the window.

Tommy: It's fine to throw it out the window.

Mason: It's not. I don't think it's a grog move to throw it out the window.

Tommy: It's going to just like, like, no, elements will just like sand it down. Like, what are your fingers made of?

Josh: There's something more public about me doing this.

Tommy: Oh, but you just do it, do it just subtly. Just, yeah, just the subtle drop.

Josh: Do you do that?

Tommy: Yeah, I definitely do. I do that. Um, anyway, back to it. These gronks that were at— gronks that were there, it builds a case that we're all gronks.

Josh: Absolutely. Um, at least on the show anyway. There's people that are listening right now going, nah, bullshit.

Tommy: I just think everybody— that's what I think it— when someone just goes, oh, you're so fucking, you know, you say the wrong thing at the wrong time. You know, like everyone's got that. Everyone, you think it.

Josh: I just realised that fucking Jordan Michaelides was trolling me about how I hold my coffee and I fucking do it all the time. Like whenever I'm thinking, I hold it here.

Tommy: So I cleaned the studio, the radio studio you guys were in, top to bottom. Like I just felt like I got in there, I was like, I want to vacuum, I want to dust it all down. You know, I want to make it feel like mine. I want to put my stamp on it.

Josh: Did you have like a bottle of hand sanitizer and stuff too?

Tommy: I had. Yeah, I had it all. We had to have that. That was a big in the studio because then other gronks would come in as well. So you like, you're mixing gronks and that's when you get some, you know, serious fucking germs. And anyway, I found so many nails like that's gronk.

Josh: I think it's almost the weirdness is in defence of the gronk which is, I think, is a very good segment in defence of the grump. The— I don't even realise that I'm doing it.

Tommy: No, of course not. That's part of the fucking grump.

Josh: Because I felt like I was, um, I saw a nail on the floor the other day. I was like, oh fuck, it was me. Like, it could only be me. But I forget, like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, like you don't realise you're doing it.

Tommy: I get it, I get it. But you should have seen What about the clipping?

Josh: What about the guy out the front here? The courier?

Tommy: What is he doing?

Josh: Remember what you said?

Tommy: Oh, there's something. I don't know if it's me, if it's just me, but for some reason, like the sound of someone cutting their nails really repulses me. I don't know what it is about it. I just like, but I do, I can do it for myself and I don't feel like that. But I just, when I think maybe it's because I know how dirty I can be. And then I think about someone else who's doing that. And, you know, there's not much like you clip and it can shoot off. And so, this, this tradie's out there just—

Josh: but he does it all the time, you're saying?

Tommy: Well, I've seen him do it a couple of times and it just—

Josh: which is a little bit bizarre.

Tommy: But these keyboards in this radio studio, oh my God, I turned them upside down and these are old shitty fucking PC keyboards and I'm just tapping the bottom. Oh my God, I had to get them crumbs and it was so—

Josh: you should just get a new keyboard at that point.

Tommy: You're in Shepparton, they got no budge.

Josh: It's full on. Did you ever buy? Because I'm notorious for working at companies where I'm just like, if you guys aren't going to buy it, I'm going to buy it. Everyone's like, yeah, how does Josh have that fucking amazing chair? And I'm just fucking rolling in it. It's like I bought it myself.

Tommy: They did buy us new headphones, which are the same as these Audio-Technica ones. So that's, I think, nice. These are pretty intimate with your ears, which we've bought our own pairs here. Oh, we bought everyone a pair of headphones.

Josh: We did it. No, we don't require at 97anddil. Before we get to the cookies, I just want to understand. Yes. Just before we press record, 3D Dill had some sort of weird reaction. We went, oh, oh, and then Mr. 97 was like, oh, why'd you open it? So, and then I was like, what's going on? And then Mr. 97, uh, as a good producer does, says keep it for the show.

Tommy: All right, so now we're gonna hijack it and say, what, what were you— what did you plant, Mr. 97, and what were you hoping?

Mason: Yeah, well, so I, I was hoping that you guys would read this out and then would get Dill's reaction on air, but he opened the, the show notes document Ah, sure. But, um, classic.

Josh: I don't even have the show notes. It's on my laptop.

Tommy: Yeah, baby boy.

Josh: Thank you.

Mason: Anyway, so I, I woke up this morning ready for the gym, and we had a few unread direct messages. And I opened one, opened one from the bearded fan who's been going through our back catalogue of content, and he replied to a storey that Dyl put out yesterday saying, is that an intentional spelling mistake? Who wrote that, Mr. 97 or Josh?

Josh: Here we go.

Mason: And so this storey is 3D Dills announce met, 10 days to go.

Josh: He fucked it. I didn't even notice that. Yeah, let me have a look, let me have a look.

Tommy: I mean, I don't judge people who can't spell because I fucking can't. Announce, announcement. Yeah, I get it.

Josh: Yeah, that's not even announcement, it's announcement.

Mason: So yeah, I woke up and had a good laugh at that.

Tommy: Have you deleted it?

George: No, because like it's an honest mistake. And in defence of a gronk, it's hard to type when your whole dominant hand's—

Josh: You know what, isn't it so funny how defensive we get? Like, you know, and I'm like, you fucking muddy shoes. We struggle to take it in, don't we?

Tommy: So, I, um, the word— like, what's fine about that is that it's an Instagram story, which is also not a spelling mistake.

Josh: It is a, um, it's a typo.

Tommy: It's a typo.

George: Yeah.

Josh: Don't you think? Because you would— you know how to spell it.

George: If I had spelled announcement with one N N, or instead of the C-E-M-E, typically an N-T at the end. If it was announce and then no E, just M-E-N-T, then that would have been— I would classify.

Tommy: All right, so I uploaded and I did— I've done this so many times. When you write subscribe, if you just— I've just misspelled— I've just— what did you call it? It's not a spelling— I just did a typo where I wrote subcribe, sub, subscribe, miss the sub, miss the S.

Josh: Why are you constantly doing that?

Tommy: I only did it twice and I uploaded the video twice, so I had to delete it. So, it's a YouTube vid, so it's more of a fuck-up. Like, this is, this is gone soon.

Josh: This is an Insta story. You've got 24 hours of pain.

George: Yeah.

Josh: And then you'll, you'll be good to go.

George: I'm in school for design. I'm not in school for English. Yeah, that's—

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And TJ and I aren't in school. He's not in school. So, Alexandra, has delivered the goods. More specifically, her sister, who at around 8 AM this morning, 3D Deal, did the deal.

Tommy: Did the deal in a back street in Abbotsford.

Josh: Couldn't get more druggy than that.

Tommy: I mean, you've seen people hand over what they call cookies quite often around here.

Mason: Really?

Josh: Well, are they really dealing them in cookies?

Tommy: No, no, the bickies. So, I'm sure there's a few bicky deals going on.

Josh: Bickies, you mean?

Tommy: Bickies XP tablets. Yeah.

Josh: So, because when you say cookie, I assumed you meant like marijuana or whatever, but you're never buying— No, no, no. It'd be pretty rare to have a dealer who's like—

Tommy: A baker as well.

Josh: I specialise in baked goods.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Alexandra emailed us inspired by Maryanne, who did our surprise Uber Eats order the other week. And so, she said, I bake cookies. I want to bake you some cookies. And now we have the cookies.

Josh: Uh, just from a dibs point of view, Bree has already asked me to, uh, keep one aside.

Tommy: Oh, no chance, mate.

George: No chance.

Josh: How many have we got?

Tommy: Oh, we've got actually quite a few.

Josh: Maybe we can. There is a no way.

Tommy: Josh, you say that, I know you lead with that, but there's also a chance that we get just fucking fully into it and we just go hard.

Josh: No, no, don't go, Josh.

Tommy: Don't be rude. This is like the kid who fucking opens the present, chucks the card over there. You cannot do that, mate.

Josh: You just cheque for cash. Okay.

Tommy: All right. There's a bit going on here. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Okay. So I'll just take this second lot of cookies out.

Josh: Can't I just smell them? That's what I was going to do.

Tommy: No, but hang on. We got to look. This is a lovely package. She's got— how do you do that?

Josh: She's got— amazing.

Tommy: She's put our photo into a legit Polaroid. Alexandra, you absolute weapon. How have you done that? She's taken a photo of the photo.

Josh: I don't know, but it's amazing.

George: It looks great.

Josh: I love it. From a couple of narcissists. Thank you.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: And we've, we needed to start. We should just buy one of the cameras for the studio.

Josh: This is a nice, this is like, we can just every single time we get an Instagram photo, we just tag Alexandra and she can send it over.

Tommy: This is awesome. This is awesome. So, this is some nice thick, I don't know.

Josh: Good stock.

George: Feel it.

Tommy: What would you say that is?

Josh: That's, that's about, no, no, it's about a, What do you reckon, Dylar? Maybe 200 GSM?

Tommy: It's pretty solid.

George: Let me have a, have a squeeze.

Tommy: I mean, then I'll read the card, but just have a little quick, have a little quick squeeze.

George: I'm going to say 220.

Tommy: Okay, it's only because you said 200. Yeah, I would have done the same. Okay, here we go.

Josh: It's a good card stock.

Tommy: To Tommy, Josh, Mr. 97, 3D Dyl. Here they are. First cookies, uh, bon appétit. Best chocolate chip cookies made with 70% dark choc.

Josh: Yum.

Tommy: Will you accept that? Because I know you like 85, you big baby boy.

Josh: No, this is, I mean, 85 is if I'm being healthy.

Tommy: Okay. These are the best, although a tiny bit burnt.

Josh: This one says, eat me first. So, choc cookies.

Tommy: So, that's them. Yeah, I think that's them. Okay. Second cookies, which are these ones. Grandma, uh, Evenson's, her surname. So, it's her grandma's cookies. My family are obsessed with these and carry many memories. I hope to keep the tradition going with this recipe. That's awesome. I love it. Um, and then she said, yeah, I think so, I think so. Uh, Amy wanted to do a, like, a bit of a fun recipe book with all her friends' families' recipes.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: So it's like, I think there's like, you've got a group of mates, like Alex, you know, her family have a recipe.

Josh: The Jansons could do Lynn's lasagna. No, Mum's lasagna's actually gotten quite good. I wasn't a fan of lasagna, that was the issue.

Tommy: Mum has a recipe.

Josh: Rocky Road.

Tommy: Mum, my mum does the Rocky Road. Can she make one? Maybe we get our mums to make their recipe.

Josh: Oh yeah, what do you reckon your mum—

Tommy: Oh, so my mum's got a recipe which it's a chocolate cake, it smells like her mumma, that I don't like.

Josh: Is it made out of like potato or something?

Tommy: Well, I think us kids growing up with the Sara Lee soft cakes, everything's just soft and, you know, you have in the fridge for 2, 3 days, it's still soft somehow. Yeah, this recipe mum makes, hard as fuck.

Josh: But I like how— I like dense.

Tommy: Yeah, so maybe you do, like, people do like the cake, but It's— sorry, Mum.

Josh: I like the, um, from, uh— okay, so what are we gonna do?

Tommy: You have not burnt them, Alex. This is like— get your finger on them.

Josh: Like, hashtag get your finger on them.

Tommy: And see, they're still soft. Yeah, they're still soft and gooey.

Josh: Let's pass it around. Dill, you, you grab one.

Tommy: That was the worst.

Josh: They've got, they've got some density to it. Okay, here we go.

Tommy: Okay, here we go.

Josh: Mmm. Oh, they're like, um, Oh Jesus Christ.

Tommy: Oh no, that's real good. If that's like a recipe from scratch, that's like a honey—

Josh: it reminds me of a Honey Jumble. Jumble. Jumble.

Tommy: And Jumbles.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Wow.

Josh: With chocolate, it's fucking delicious. But obviously not the texture of a Honey Jumble.

Tommy: I've had hash cookies before and they can't taste this good, so we're— I think we're pretty safe, guys.

Josh: I love that. I wonder, um, Oh wow, are you a soft or hard cookie guy?

Tommy: Um, soft, 100%. The thing is, you know when you go to like Woolworths or Coles and they have the cookie section? Oh, we actually spoke to someone the other day whose dad— oh yeah, so some, uh, Ryan John was telling me his friend's family are the ones that make all those cakes for Woolworths.

Josh: Oh, that's cool.

Tommy: The ones that are always soft and lovely. They have a big factory. They pump out, you know, hundreds of these guys. And then there's another company that do the cookies for Woolworths and Coles.

Josh: Don't you think that's the thing with the longer you leave them, this is— it goes against everything that you know to be true because you think that when you leave something, it goes stale, it goes hard. Cookies, especially the ones from Coles and Woolies and stuff, I feel like as a kid if they somehow had forgotten the cookies were there, so they lasted more than a day. Yeah, so they're on the back of the cupboard or whatever, and I'm like rummaging around, and day 2 I find them. They're softer than the day 1. Do you agree?

Tommy: I mean, it's not that much of a research when they're eaten within the second day.

Josh: But is that true? Is it? Is that—

Tommy: I don't know, I'd say 2 weeks later is a fucking—

Josh: No, but do they go softer? Do cookies 97. Do cookies go softer over time?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: I don't think that's a—

Josh: Eat me second.

Tommy: I think if they're hard and they're out, they're going to go harder. It's like bread. It will— Everything goes stale. Okay.

Josh: So, Grandma Evanson's cookies.

Tommy: This is Grandma Evanson's cookies.

Josh: Yeah. Here we go.

Tommy: Oh, yeah.

Josh: Is this a— Before we start, is that a roll? No, no, no.

George: Rolo.

Josh: Rolo.

George: Rolo.

Josh: You know, they make— Can I eat the Rolo?

Tommy: Well, don't just be a gronk. Don't just— it's— then you're just eating chocolate.

Josh: No, I was thinking like, shoot, what's the right way of eating it?

Tommy: You need to bite into this and get some chocolate too. Here we go. Mmm, that's real buttery.

Josh: They are, aren't they?

Tommy: And then the chocolate. Grandma, you nailed it.

Josh: So good. Thanks, Alex. Um. How many can we have each? If we have one more—

Tommy: pretty decadent. Like, they're not— I don't think these are rich cookies, but having 3 of these, I think going beyond that is probably just— 3 as in having 3 each, as in just eating 3.

Josh: So can I have one more of this and then one more?

Tommy: Whatever you want. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I'm saying if you were to, I think, just eat more than 3 of these, it's being super indulgent, which we can't—

Josh: 3 of one.

Tommy: 3 fucking cookies.

Josh: So in total, 3 total. One to have 2 of and one—

Tommy: I'm not setting the rules. I just, I just think I could eat— I would have 3. There's— so we spend a lot of our lives just not listening to our bodies. You've spent a lot of your life not listening to your fucking body.

Josh: That's true.

Tommy: And so it's—

Josh: maybe I'm more— maybe I know what my body would have.

Tommy: No, but I think there's that, right? Like, I think if you start trying to listen And I'm not saying that I'm the fucking, you know.

Josh: I think actually we've got my body. I've actually sorted out this microphone so I can— this is a bit of radio gear. I'm going to go lean into it. I've actually got a microphone that I can put up to my body and we can hear what it's saying.

Tommy: All right, Dan DeBouche.

Josh: Okay, here we go. Ow.

Tommy: Ow.

Josh: What do we think of radio, guys? Was that good or not? That's why I need my fucking megaphone. If I had a megaphone, I could do that bit of gear. Um, that's actually my least favourite part of radio when they—

Tommy: it's like when you eat a big meal and you go, I'm full, and then you're like, I'll have dessert, but inside you know you shouldn't have dessert. And if you think, I probably shouldn't have dessert, but fuck it, I will— that's not listening. You're just not listening to your body. We spend a lot of our times doing that. Yeah, a lot of time doing that.

Josh: Or it's working out It's alcohol too.

Tommy: We do it with alcohol.

Josh: That's why I'm so glad I don't drink. If I like, like, I'll have, uh, one glass of wine every 6 months, but if I actually— What are you laughing at?

Tommy: I'm not laughing at anything.

Josh: Um, what one glass every 6 months is?

George: You do you, that's all I'll say.

Josh: I don't know what you're talking about because it's just not—

George: No, it's just I I wouldn't expect you to drink at all.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: One of the most favourite shows I did, and you can listen back to it, find the episode with Josh Simons.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: In LA. Josh cracked open a fucking bottle of champagne, was making mimosas.

Josh: I was drunk by the end of it, I think.

Tommy: And you were like, hand me another samosa.

Josh: Hand me another mimosa. What is a samosa versus a mimosa?

Tommy: A samosa is like an Indian. Yeah.

Josh: That's right, though, they were. I love samosas.

Tommy: And we know the samosa, all these drinkable samosas are great. But yeah, you were real fluffy and I was a bit— I was pretty pissed after that.

Josh: You can see how it becomes a thing. Like for instance, yeah, can you top me up please?

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, they taste— how good's coffee?

Josh: Yeah, it's amazing.

Tommy: Nice little buttery cookie.

Josh: Yeah, it's almost like a mocha, isn't it? By having a mocha. But no, Bree and I the other day went to Rita's Pizza. And this was a night— this always seems to happen when, um, oh geez, risky throwing the cookies. Uh, whenever we plan to eat soup at home, very—

Tommy: don't eat soup.

Josh: Yeah, very rare that we actually eat the soup. It's because we had a healthy soup maker. Well, you made it? Nah, Bree's got like found this like really nice soup that she likes that she started eating on the 2 days.

Tommy: When did you— when is this? Last night?

Josh: No, this was— no, no, not after burgers. That'd be upsetting. I couldn't eat anything after this because AU79, we had burgers from there.

Mason: This was last week.

Josh: And no, it wasn't even last week. I think it was like 2 days ago.

Tommy: Yesterday, the conversation I heard on the phone, a lot of food chat between you and Bri. I think it's because you eat out so much and you're always like, what are we going to do? Where are we going? Oh no, I don't want Mexican. Like nonstop food chat.

Josh: It's true.

Tommy: But I heard yesterday, it's like, oh, I had burgers, so I don't even know if I'll need soup. Yeah, that was last night. So the soup chat is a lot of soup chat this week.

Josh: I ended up having a crusty piece of bread with a bit of peanut butter, which is probably worse than soup anyway. But anyway, there's some— there's a— soup seems easy, seems like it's like a liquid, it's like a drink, you could drink it. But there's something—

Tommy: yeah, my relationship with soup has always been like, whatever, like it's soup.

Josh: The best part about soup is the sour cream on top.

Tommy: The best part about soup is not eating the soup.

Josh: Yeah, the best part about soup is buying the soup, leaving in the cupboard and saying, what do you want to do for dinner? Because I don't fucking feel like soup. No, you don't think that the best thing about soup— there's another great— best thing about soup, fucking the bread that you dip in to the soup. That's the best thing about soup. Can we get this as a bit, please?

Mason: Yeah, sure.

Josh: Great, thank you. Not a snippet, I want a complete DT— TDS bit. It's gonna go for 3 minutes.

Tommy: Uh, that, that was about as unrelatable as the soup chat is.

Josh: No, people get it. Uh, no, but we did, uh, we did have pizza the other night. It was actually really nice because we like, if we're gonna do it, we'll, um, we'll fucking do it well. No, we'll actually, we'll sit in. Okay, we'll go into Rita's and all that sort of thing. It's a really nice environment. It's almost like, feels like a wine bar or whatever. We didn't have wine, we just had water. But, um, because stocking up on a Bingo Bango, another reference most people won't know, great pizza at Rita's. But, um, uh, what I started to realise was how much Bree and I can just enable it. Like when I was like, hey, do you want to, um, I don't think I even finished the sentence and Bree's like starting to do a U-turn to get to Rita's. She's like, where should we park? I'm like, as I'm saying, do you want to have Rita's? So anyway, what I was thinking is, I wonder if couples do this with alcohol. Like, is this a big thing? Like, if you're trying to— trying to reduce your alcohol consumption feels like a bigger issue than food in some ways, where it's like, if you eat too much food, you'll just be obese. If you drink too much alcohol, you'll be a raging alcoholic.

Tommy: Yeah, now see, I think there's a, there's a, there's a place where a lot of people live and it's, it's, it's not an alcoholic, they've just got an unhealthy relationship with it. So they just drink more than they need, which— so there's a point where it's like turns into you are, you know, you can identify as an alcoholic because it's just super destructive, right? I look at my friend who goes to AA and I think, you know, we would drink growing up and it's like, you could go, do— did you have a problem? But he severely identifies, or he just— yeah, he really truly believes he was an alcoholic. And so of course he is then at that point because he realises how destructive it was. And so I know people that are like him that don't see themselves as an alcoholic and then just sort of don't drink for a while and then come back.

Josh: What about if you, if you have a bad day at work if your default is, I need a wine, I need a beer, how— like, what do you think that is on the spectrum? Um, I think because that would be destructive though, because there is that level of medic— yeah, you know, 100%.

Tommy: That's why I wanted to have a year off, right? Because it's, it's hard.

Josh: Like, you picked the year that we went in, like, you picked a bad—

Tommy: well, saying yesterday, so I've been off 6 months of alcohol, and I was, and I was thinking like And you said at the start, and I've heard, you know, Jordan Peterson talk about, you know, getting off something, you— it is something fills the place of it, right? Or you need to fill the place of it because drinking alcohol is fucking great. It makes you feel great. It's an anti-anxiety medication while you're having it. It's like you just feel lovely, you feel a bit of a buzz.

Josh: And so, so what have you replaced, do you think?

Tommy: I think it's probably this show.

Josh: Really?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Well, I think you're drinking it. What's the time right now?

Tommy: I've been able to do my exercise every second day. Haven't missed a second day from the start of the year. That's 6 months of doing that. So I've been able to keep consistent showing up to doing things like the show and the business. And I've just— I think it definitely has been, you know, the focus. It's like if I'm on the weekend, if I'm out on the weekend drinking, I'm not thinking about probably work and shit. So it's like my thinking has probably been just shifted. So it's not like I've filled it with You know, I used to drink every Saturday and Sunday. I now go mountain bike riding every Saturday. Like, I know, but I have— I don't have a bike, it got stolen a couple years ago.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: Yeah, it's annoying. The one time I fucking had my bike, I'd been— I had it inside. I'd been to America, came home. First night I got home, put the bike out in the back. The back had a gate that led to a laneway. The bike got stolen that night.

Josh: That's annoying.

Tommy: How fucking annoying is that? Anyway, it was a cheap bike, but my— yeah, my point is, I don't know what my point is.

Josh: Yeah, I get it.

Tommy: So yeah, drinking, I think if you do drink to mask a feeling, it's not a good idea. It's a bit destructive. It's like eating when you feel like shit. Yeah, it's doing something, so it's using an external source to change your internal, which is why I didn't— this is why I stopped drinking. Yeah, because I didn't want to rely on something external to change my internal.

Josh: Exactly. Exactly. 3-day deal. Being in hashtag college, uh, are people just drinking all the time?

George: When I was in my first year of college, like, I used to drink a lot more than I thought I would. Like, it would, it would be like a Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, sometimes Sunday night too, leading into Monday.

Josh: And what do they drink?

George: Beer, um, coolers, which is like real sugary and nasty, makes you feel like shit.

Josh: Coolers.

George: So, it's like a vodka. It's basically like mixing vodka and like a Sprite lemonade.

Tommy: Do you do it yourself? Is that what they—

George: No, like you can buy it in a can.

Josh: In this case, it's pre-mixed.

Tommy: Yeah. In America, there's not a great deal of pre-mixed stuff. Like when I was there in 2012, walking through the bottle shops and stuff, it's so cheap to buy a bottle of vodka. It's like $13.

Josh: Well, isn't it funny what, like, I think that's one of the interesting things about I always want to preface 3D Dill being in Canada. I feel like every time we talk about Canada, we end up reverting to the US.

Tommy: Well, because I think there's a lot of similarities between the two, but it's like maybe, maybe Canadians drink more pre-mixed in the bottle than Americans do. I don't know.

Josh: Well, it's funny how brands— there are brands in the US that are considered shit, but they're actually okay in Australia.

Tommy: Yeah, Bud Light and all those things, they're just novelty. It's like VB.

Josh: But even like clothing, clothing, I remember there were certain things where it's like It was Guess or whatever back in the day. It was like cheap in the US, but you could flaunt it in Australia. Yeah.

Tommy: What's it like, American Apparel? Is that any good over there? Do people see that as—

Josh: Well, American Apparel, are they even still— I remember around, because American Apparel is the one where the guy, the CEO, went pretty crazy.

Tommy: Did he?

Josh: He was, uh, they were publicly listed, but he's got a new brand. I think it's called LA Apparel? Oh yeah, there's a great doco on his demise though. Ryan Holiday was the marketing director then.

Tommy: Is it also— but it's not Ryan Holiday that had the meltdown? No, no, no, Ryan Holiday lives on a fucking farm.

Josh: Yeah, right. He's having holiday will actually— I've seen rumours that he will eventually do a book on this guy. Yeah, which would be phenomenal.

Tommy: Expose. Yeah, suppose so. I'd like to have a Ryan Holiday on the show.

Josh: Yeah, he would. Yeah, he's Really? I mean, he seems to have his life dialled in, doesn't he? Because he's like, he does his running, he's got an Apple Watch. I mean, what more could you want?

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, what jumps out to me more is he's a writer who lives on a property having, you know, fires. He's got kids.

Josh: I understand. I know. No, but he like swims all the time. He's— but he's also—

Tommy: he shows up. He shows up and he's consistent.

Josh: He's also got like a gun and like shoot, has to shoot. Wild animals and stuff if they try and kill him.

Tommy: The drinking stuff, I get in these, and I don't— and I probably know that the— I know that the belief is just made up internally, but I think that the belief will benefit me. So the belief is, if I don't drink for the next year, I think I can become more successful in my business and the podcast and all this stuff. So then I go, if I— that's what I'm just drumming into myself. But if what we know is that beliefs are just constructs of thinking, you know, this is all just a construct, this whole thing.

Josh: Yeah, it is weird, isn't it? But it shows you how much mindset and things can like actually change, change your world. Like, it seems so tiny. Yeah, but it'll actually have massive implications.

Tommy: It's a serving belief.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So there's— yeah, beliefs that don't serve you.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's like that. That's what I like. Tony Robbins' book, it was like, do an audit on your belief system. In one of them, I think it was, or I mean, that's general self-help, right? It's like, think about what you believe, write it down, and then challenge that belief. And does it serve you or does it sabotage you?

Josh: Well, I think Mr. 97 is a good example of— I think you have a lot of beliefs.

Tommy: Self-serving?

Josh: Like, I think they are self-serving.

Mason: Yeah, I think that, well, I think that what I think is, to an extent, yeah, but I think what I—

Josh: yeah, what do you mean?

Mason: Well, I— some, some of my beliefs limit me from doing stuff that I probably— I mean, like, it closes off my options, I guess, because I believe in it and I'm just like, can you share one? I'm not going to go anywhere near that.

Tommy: Can you share one with us?

Mason: Yeah, well, it's probably— I think probably alcohol And, um, yeah, like, I guess like parties and social events, like I just close myself off to that.

Tommy: So is it, is it that you've closed off to the parties and then you think, okay, I'll say no to drinking because that relates to the parties? And so you've done this sort of like—

Mason: yeah, yeah, there's a connection there, but I think it's more just like there's an association of what happens when people are on alcohol and it's like, I don't want to go anywhere near that. Like, I just don't enjoy that. So then then I restrict myself from going out. And like what we did with like Dylan, the rest of the Coconut Crew, like you don't get to experience that.

Tommy: So isn't it sweet when he just says it so honestly?

Josh: That was beautiful because I was about to correct him and say, you mean the Coconut Crew? Yeah. Oh, we love you. No, but no, I think that the thing is that what I appreciate I was thinking about this yesterday when I was, when I talked about Bree was playing the IGTV of me doing the memory game, which is funny because she's seen me do that memory game many times. Yeah, but she still managed to watch it. Yeah, exactly. No, she's, she was, she, it's amazing how much the people around us and what they say, like, make a difference.

Tommy: Imagine if our partners weren't supportive.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: And so she was like, oh, that was 'Oh, you're very entertaining.' I really like Bree's feedback because she does say it just straight out. 'Oh, you're very entertaining.' 'Oh, Tommy, you're quite funny.' Yeah. She doesn't say this just straight to the point. There's no fluffing around.

Josh: Yeah, it's good. But what it got me thinking about was I was hearing me— I rarely listen back or whatever, but I was hearing me talk about the storey of my workplace and my old boss, Michael Eva, and all that sort of thing. And I was thinking about how much of a shit employee I was in just every, basically every company that I've worked at.

Tommy: Belief doesn't serve you.

Josh: Exactly. And that's what I've done.

Tommy: If you're the employee.

Josh: Exactly. And so that was the thing. But the, the funny thing that's happened now is the belief that I had, that was the negative connotation of the belief. The positive part was I'm entrepreneurial, I'll make things happen, I'm a leader.. And that feels like life now is more in alignment with that, so it all works. But, um, yeah, it was, it was interesting, interesting thinking about the, that difference, the difference between being in a place that doesn't serve. I guess to your point, 97, it's like the, all of those things, they're not that popular as well. Like what you're saying isn't that popular. Like more people drink than don't drink in Australia. And so I feel like anyone that can, uh, do something despite what the general public says, I think that's a positive. Like, that's a positive in 90% of cases.

Tommy: And so what do you see this as, Mr. 97? Self-serving, or is it sabotaging? Like Josh is saying, he's found alignment, he had it, he's in the work environment, there's friction based on the belief, exits, creates his own thing. There's— it's more congruent with, you know, his belief.

Mason: Yeah, I, it's— I, I don't think it's one way or another. It's definitely both. Because if that, that sort of belief has helped me develop my friendship circle, and then that sort of like pushed me into what I'm doing now, so it served me in that way. But then if you know, it's, it's restricted me from actually like going out and potentially like meeting all these new people. So that's why you need to replace—

Josh: that's, I think the thing is that if you're taking out the negative component, it feels like it needs to then be replaced with something positive. So at the moment you're very good with work and the show, and we know that everything's always going to be sorted. So you've replaced party time with podcast time, which is great. Good one.

Tommy: Yeah, but then that's the P with the P.

Josh: Yeah, but maybe there is another one which is like that social element that like, so it's like, okay, taking partying to what is the actual social stuff that I want to be doing.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: And then there's the reality that it's not natural for you or it feels like it's hard which means that we move away from it because it can create pain.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: I was talking to someone recently about— I was just saying, you know, working a lot, it's winter, bit down. I don't really, I don't really do much other than work, you know, during the day. And then at the weekend I'm tired. And so it's like, where's the fun in their life? Where's that, you know, that enjoyment? Not that they don't enjoy work that much, but I mean just working for somebody and working, you know, just can take it out of you. And I was, and I was thinking about, it's like, what do you like? It's the, the discussion then has to— or the questioning you need to ask yourself is, what do I actually like? And then that's what we spoke about, right? And then he's like, oh, but then after work I'm just fucked. It's like, well, I know you're fucked, but there's also the reality that Showing up for 30 minutes, if you just say 30 minutes, 5 days a week, or every day after work, I'll do this regardless of if it's painful and I don't want to and I want to go to bed. Because it's within the pain, within that showing up, the reward comes, the learning comes. Like this, this podcast, I think I've learned more from just showing up. And it's not even about consistency, it's about myself, it's about understanding when you commit to something regardless.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What that does for your world, what it does for external.

Josh: Like, what I'm curious about is I love doing this show so much, I love working on this show so much, and it's so easy. I wonder what happens when that becomes the number one option. Like, what happens when, like, are there— will I find something? Like, I do worry sometimes that like, oh, maybe when that becomes the thing, then I'll find something within that thing. Like, I feel like, do we always need some little shit part of your work to be able to make you appreciate this stuff?

Tommy: I mean, this comes with struggles, right? Like, if you, you're constantly thinking about this, you're constantly labouring over what are we doing, the camera, like, so there is pain, but the, like, the enjoyment we get out of it is so high.

Josh: Yeah. But it doesn't feel like— the thing is that those— the pain is that I can't just do it all the time. The pain is actually in that sometimes doing the show is procrastinating from something else that I need to do. So yeah, I do wonder. But then we speak to our friends who have radio and TV and they do all that sort of thing. And what ends up happening is it's like they love the radio bit, but they're not enjoying this TV bit or this or that. And so—

Tommy: Or hobbies, right? What's your hobby, Mr. 97? If you do— I know it's a hard question because I think for me the answer is my life. I just like, I go to the gym, I spend time with my family, I have a business and a job that I love, and I get to do cool shit every day. And so it's like, it then is like, where's my hobby? But then this, you, if you're living a life of things that you want to do and you've created the world you want to live in, yeah. Because we all have. Whether it's one you want to live in or not is another thing. But for you, is there like—

Mason: no, I would say it's more similar, similar to you. I, I don't— if I try to think of like a passion outside of like work and the gym and hanging out, so hanging out with mates, there's nothing like that really stands out. It's all sort of built into what I do.

Tommy: Yeah, I think then we can start questioning. It's like the hobby thing, you question Well, do I need one then?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: But then maybe I've never understood. That's one thing I've never understood is people that don't have hobbies. Well, based on my obsession, like I've got too many hobbies, it feels.

Tommy: But then your job is the hobby. Like we—

Josh: Yeah, is what— But I think that that's based out of my— I think I'm like, if you've got a personality that's like Bree doesn't— isn't really into hobbies, but I feel like for me my hobbies absorb, you know, absorb me.

Tommy: What's the meaning of a hobby? Can you look that up, Mr. 97? I know, I know, yeah, but I just want to know, like, it's a weird word.

Josh: Yeah, well, I think for me it's what do you, what do you do when you don't have to do anything?

Tommy: Social media.

Josh: No, I put that, I think that that's like, that is replacing a lot of people's hobbies.

Tommy: They're like, if it's drawing sadness, then there's a problem. Problem, right? If that— if you just living on social media actually doesn't bring you any joy, which, yeah, I don't think it does for a lot of people. Like, I think it's not the equation to have internal habits.

Josh: What's the definition? Uh, nice abs—

Mason: an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.

Josh: And so, yeah, like, I really—

Tommy: I love it. I love what it does to me.

Josh: I love it. It's a hard—

Tommy: definitely hard myself. I love listening to audiobooks. I love of, you know, increasing my test, you know, it's all, it's all a part of it. But I think I had a dream about the testosterone stuff last night.

Mason: Did you win?

Josh: No, I can't, I can't remember what.

Tommy: Well, if you can't remember, no. But I think the hobby fit, the hobby thing fits into, you know, I think of that old model of work where it's show up, you know, stamp your ticket, stamp it out, and then you get to go find something because the work wasn't That's why retirement is a weird idea.

Josh: I think like 97 has more of a like realistic expectation of, or like an old, that's the traditional thing. Like the idea of like you're putting in extra contributions into your super and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: Like, yeah, Mr. 97 said, look, can we put more money into my super? And I told—

Josh: It's like, mate, you know you don't fucking get that until you're like 60-something.

Tommy: I told Amy, Yeah, she's a fuck— he's a clever boy. Yeah, like what I was thinking at 19, I was like trying to fill these with hash.

Josh: Yeah, be careful of the cookies.

Tommy: Yeah, sorry about that.

Josh: Um, no, but I think that that's it. What does everyone think of 3D Deal? What do you think of retirement? What's— what's— what does that mean to you?

George: I can't see myself like just stopping doing work, like especially with the last 2 months that I've had here. I like the fact that my hobby has essentially become what I do, like, day to day as a job. Yeah. Like, start in the morning and then like from 8 to 5 we're doing this one thing. But even later on after hours, I'm still thinking about stuff that relates to it. If I'm creating something, it can tie in, or if not, it's influenced by what we're doing here at the show. And I can't imagine myself working at a job, say, till I'm like 65. And then just stopping doing that and stopping everything that's relating to it and just coasting for the final years of my life.

Josh: Or taking up golf.

Tommy: Yeah, you see that, like, rich people— it's generalizing— but a lot of them don't end up retiring because they just live a life that they want to live.

Josh: So it's like, well, when is retire— I guess for me it's like when— maybe it's financial independence or financial freedom. That's like a, for me, a more exciting goal than retirement.

Tommy: Yeah, I want to get rich so I can just keep doing stuff I want to do.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: For my whole entire life.

Josh: What do you— 97, what do you think? What was your— I mean, yeah, what's your thoughts on the whole retirement thing?

Mason: Yeah, I, I, I think like if you took the traditional route of like having like a normal traditional job and then just stopping it, like looking at my like grandparents and stuff, it just looks like real boring to be honest. Like I couldn't I think, I think I'd have to have something to entertain my mind instead of just doing, doing nothing and going to community events and stuff. I feel like, yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's a bit hard at that age because you're not, you're not up with it in terms of like technology. I mean, you can make an effort, and I think that's something that I would probably do. But yeah, it's, it's interesting. I'd probably be more bored than anything.

Tommy: Well, that's why hobbies are important. Yeah.

Josh: Well, I'm hoping you've got a lot of leisure time.

Tommy: Yeah, you need—

Josh: Yeah, that's part of like all the books that I'm buying. I'm like, as I get older, I'll have— not retire, but I'll have more time to read my books.

Mason: I think, I think it's great socially as well. I think you get to hang out with, with people and talk with them.

Tommy: The retiring sounds like a nightmare for you, mate.

Mason: No, yeah, I mean, some social, uh, interactions, but what social interactions do you like? Um, more just, I guess, more it depends on where it is, like what sort of environment it's in. If it's in like a, like a loud, with a loud environment with lots going on, then I'm not too keen on it. But if it's in like a room or, uh, you're just like out for dinner with mates or something, then that's, that's something that I love.

Josh: Did you feel nervous when you first started working out of Tommy's office at the beginning?

Mason: Yeah, oh, definitely going to meet Tommy.

George: Definitely.

Tommy: I remember we had our little coffee. Did you drink any drink?

Mason: No, no, I didn't. I didn't have a drink.

Josh: Wait, so did you make it? Did you?

Tommy: Well, I said come in and I'll meet you downstairs at Susie's Cafe, and so we met there. And I just, I did, I mean, Mr. 97 is a funny one because you don't think he's 18. He was 18 at the time I met him, and I didn't think he's 18.

Josh: How old did you think he was?

Tommy: I didn't really know, didn't really care.

Josh: Older or younger?

Tommy: Uh, around 20 or something. You just think, like, you look at him, he kind of just— he's tall too, he's like 6'1", 6'2". So he's—

George: you—

Josh: he's 6'1", he's not—

Mason: you don't think I'm 6 foot, but yeah, yeah, yeah, mate.

Josh: When you're on the show, you grow a couple inches.

Tommy: I'm glad we're the tallest here, it's just the front. Um, but I, I didn't get, you know, so like you might be a bit bit nervous. I mean, a lot of people are nervous in interacting. I didn't know what you were there for. I didn't know what I was there for, you know. I don't— so you just— I just throw myself into those situations just to vibe it out. What the fuck's going on?

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And we talk and we got along and we spoke about cool shit and just— or enough to just go, all right, let's— you want to come in?

Josh: But the awkward thing, I think when you get— I did an experiment to myself last night.

Tommy: Mate, was it the squeegee?

Josh: No, it wasn't. It didn't involve a squeegee. But I, um, now Bree was watching a video and the content of the video was giving me anxiety similar to that of the project trying to switch between a sad storey and a happy storey and seeing them fumble through that. It's had that sort of vibe. I ended up like leaving the room. Like, I just, I can't, I can't deal with it. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna re-enter the room and actually realise that I don't care that it's awkward. It's fine. Yeah, it was, it was all good.

Tommy: That's great.

Josh: And so I feel, but I feel like there's so many cases where it's like in social settings we up, we create the, like, all the anxiety, all that sort of, like, it's like we can choose just like, oh, I don't you know what, like, yeah, this interaction's hilarious, or it's strange, or whatever, but like, I can— as a leader, I can, I can set the tone based on what I want, rather than, I guess, feeling like you're entering into whatever it is that's happening in front of you.

Tommy: I, I think you're tested when you're in a relationship. It's like this, you know, watch it— the watching thing is very common, that feeling. Like, if Amy wants to watch a movie, I've got my sort of thinking about what I want and how I want to feel.

Josh: Yeah. And it's like, baby doesn't want to watch a murderer documentary tonight because he'll have bad dreams.

Tommy: Yeah. And then, but then we start crafting our world to cater to our internal, like, the reactions that we're having, which is fascinating because then you just live this comfy world of doing the shit, and then you're fucking 40 and single watching Nickelodeon.

Josh: Like, because that's everyone.

Tommy: And because you haven't— and that's compromise, right? I think relationship is part of compromise, and compromise, you can learn, you can grow from that. You can grow and go, there's other people other than me.

Josh: Who, who does the deciding when it comes to what you watch?

Tommy: Naturally, I'm in that camp of— and this is why I know this shit, because I've gone, fuck, I'm an asshole. I just am picking what I want, and Amy's very, very like, oh yeah, I could watch that. So she's agreeable in that, and I'm fucking super disagreeable in terms of just—

Josh: no, I want that.

George: UFC.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to watch the comedian. And so we do, and so then it becomes—

Josh: why are the one-hour comedy specials never as funny as what you were hoping?

Tommy: I'll tell you one that is, and Amy and I both pushed back on it, so it was a mutual decision. We're just like, no, we don't want to watch it together.

Josh: We were like, I almost, I was like, oh, maybe Bodhi's like, I want to watch it.

Tommy: Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres. Oh yeah, her comedy special.

Josh: I didn't watch until, I think this is the, why do you want to watch it?

Tommy: I think this is, if you like, I like her, I've got no problem with her, I like her show, but I was like, I don't know if she's a comedian. Watch the Netflix, watch the Netflix interview with what's his name, David Letterman. David Letterman. Learn about her backstory. Phenomenal. Like, if you just watch the show, you probably don't know this, but she's like a stand-up, like that's, that was where it all began. OG stand-up, like pioneered the industry for, you know, lesbians. It was, it's crazy.

Josh: For any minority, right? But even just—

Tommy: She spearheaded that for— She was the first gay woman to have her own talk show. Like, in the early days, she got axed because she came out as gay. So then imagine what that does. 4 years of, 3 years of no job. Like, imagine what they would do. Like, that's such fucking— It's so sad that was the case.

Josh: I love the storey she tells when she sort of went off the radar a bit and saw her like a, uh, a lady who like specialised in like the future. What's that called?

Tommy: It was a clairvoyant. She was her next-door neighbour or something.

Josh: Yeah. And said at the age 41 you're gonna, you're gonna have the biggest part of your career or whatever. And that's when she got the, um, the talk show.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I went and watched the comedy special that she had and I was like, this is so clever. She's fucking, she's amazing.

Josh: Is it like stand, is it stand-up or is it Because Adam Sandler does—

Tommy: I thought that was amazing.

Josh: Yeah, you liked that?

Tommy: I love that because it wasn't what I thought it was going to be. Adam Sandler, same, you have your opinions about him. He's like, oh, he's that movie guy, he's made so much money, he's gotten some funny ones. I like him. A lot of people have bad—

Josh: What's your favourite Adam Sandler film?

Tommy: See, I like the one where he adopts two kids.

Josh: Was that Mr.— So Mr. Deeds is good.

Tommy: Mr. Deeds is good.

Josh: What's the Daddy Gilmore? Um, yeah, so the one, the one where he puts the stick into the spokes of the bike. Yeah, yeah. And trips over the rollerblades.

Tommy: So many great— I'm watching one right now which Amy and I mutually agree on.

Josh: Just right on the night.

Tommy: Like, we watched an hour and a bit last night, uh, Murder Mystery on Netflix with Jennifer Aniston.

Josh: But Bree wants to watch that.

Tommy: Watch it. See, this is the thing, I didn't want to watch it and I started watching it.

Josh: I watched the trailer, like, the best case I had was I just showed Brady the trailer. I'm like, do you still want to watch it?

Tommy: I think watch it. It's fun. It's funny. There's—

Mason: it's—

Tommy: I think, I think you will just— if you— and it's the same, succumb to it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I'm just going to watch this and enjoy this light comedy that's just funny.

Josh: I just— I do like nostalgia, so I can play into the fact that Jennifer Aniston, Adam Sandler, yeah, they've been around for a while.

Tommy: There will be comments like, oh, Jen, you know, look at her, she doesn't look like she did in Friends. And Adam Sandler, look, oh, he's a bit of— bring on a bit of weight.

Josh: Brie Larson. Adam Sandler, like, I like the way Adam Sandler looks.

Tommy: Favourite Adam Sandler film? Return of the Zohan.

Josh: So funny.

Tommy: He's this Israeli hairdresser that was an assassin and wanted to get out of being an assassin for the army, so he faked his death and then moves to New York City, and he just, he couldn't tell anyone that he wants to cut hair. And he loves cutting hair. And like, you know, people think he's gay because he cuts hair, but he's just like, no, he loves chicks and he loves cutting hair. And it's just so funny. It's so fucking— his accent, his Israeli accent.

Josh: Spot on.

Tommy: Spot on. It's so good. Anyway, that's my favourite.

Josh: But is it Click or Switch?

Tommy: Switch was with—

Josh: Switch?

Tommy: That was with Will Smith. No, who?

George: Click is Adam Sandler.

Tommy: Click is Adam Sandler.

Josh: I cried in that movie.

Tommy: Did you?

Josh: Yeah, I've mentioned it before on the show, but he was— it caught me off guard. When you're watching an Adam Sandler film, don't expect to cry.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, they had the scene where he's running off and he's wearing like the, like a merge, like he was in the hospital and no one could see him.

Tommy: I've cried in Adam Sandler movie. There's another Netflix one with Al Pacino, maybe.

Josh: Well, Netflix bought like 5— it was like 5 years worth of films or something like it from Adam Sandler. Yeah, so he's making one every single year for the next fucking—

Tommy: Happy Madison Productions or something. You see, it's the start of the film. Yeah, I love it. It's, um, yeah, but I mean, this is just challenging your internal thinking.

Josh: Yeah, 3D Deal, what's your default type of content that you'll watch in the evening if you're, uh—

Tommy: I mean, if it's anything to go by his quotes, it's fucking just Yeah, exactly. Hand clapping.

Josh: Not my guru. Not your guru.

Mason: I'm not your guru.

Tommy: Um, great, great film.

George: It is, it is great. I have, I have watched it.

Tommy: Um, makes sense.

George: I do like documentaries. Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't watch a documentary every single night. Yeah, I'm more of a music person.

Josh: So you would watch music documentaries or you listen to music?

Tommy: Musicals?

Josh: No, like, just like musicals?

George: No, like a music documentary. Like, okay, um, a band going through, say, how they recorded and produced their biggest album. Like, uh, there was one that talked about the Eagles when they recorded Hotel California. It's like, it was like— it's on Netflix, actually. It's really good. Check it out. It's like 3 or 4 hours of like the process of how the Eagles evolved.

Josh: That sounds like the basic dad document. Like, the thing is, like, you know, we talk about the licorice. Yeah, I swear that when we got like really nice speakers at our place, like, you know, when I was growing up, uh, Dad got like an Eagles, yeah, live in concert DVD. Yes, fucking blast it through the speakers and it would fucking sound like you're in the stadium.

Tommy: I think I've seen the Eagles. I remember going—

Josh: what do you mean?

Tommy: No, as in my dad took me.

Josh: Oh, that's a good—

Tommy: to see the Eagles. I just— yes, I must have been so young, dude, but I can still remember. Yeah, we used to— it was our family, the Beach Boys and the Eagles was our, um, Cassette tape, like Long Journey soundtrack, you know, when we're going on holiday.

Josh: We listen to Mushroom '70s was the compilation.

Tommy: The front cover of that. Yeah.

Josh: That was very, uh.

Tommy: Maybe it was CD by then.

Josh: But I'm trying to think of, there was a, there's a, there's a really good music doco. It's not Aspirin. What's something like Aspirin?

Tommy: What's it about? It's not about Dr. Dre?

Josh: No, it's a, it's about A band that was sort of like coming up with like Metallica and stuff like that. What is that? What's— What is an aspirin? Like a brand of aspirin?

Tommy: Panadol?

Josh: No, another one. We're going to get this because it's going to be worth it.

George: Tylenol, maybe?

Josh: Nah, no, it's the band's name.

Tommy: I'm just looking to Mason because he has the internet.

Mason: Do you remember what platform it was on?

Josh: Just type in documentary.

George: Metallica.

Josh: I know you're not going to get it there, but then that's— I've hit 4 already.

Tommy: 3 and a half.

Josh: You've hit 4?

Tommy: Yeah, cookies, good ones.

Josh: Type in— fuck, it's going to annoy the shit out— we can't finish the show.

Tommy: I think we can.

Josh: No, we can't.

Tommy: I think we actually can.

Josh: What is it called? What is Costco? You can get Heron.

Tommy: Heron?

George: No. Anvil.

Josh: Anvil.

George: Thank you. The storey of Anvil.

Josh: Yeah, the storey of Anvil.

George: Thank you. 2008.

Tommy: Well, it's actually— no, it's Advil. Advil.

George: Ah, Advil's the drug. Advil is a band.

Tommy: I see how you—

Josh: is Anvil a drug as well, or no?

George: No, not that I'm aware of.

Tommy: Advil. Advil.

Josh: Jeez, I'm a fucking—

George: Anvil is actually a Canadian band, by the way. Just throw that in.

Josh: As in the one that I just said?

George: Anvil. The storey of Anvil is— yeah, Anvil's a Canadian band.

Josh: Have you seen that documentary? You would love it.

George: I haven't seen it, but, um, highly influential 1982 album that would inspire the likes of Anthrax and Metallica in the coming years.

Tommy: And so they, um, Anthrax, as in, is that another band or is that the—

George: Anthrax is another band.

Josh: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, uh, Alex, thank you so much for the cookies.

Tommy: Yeah, really appreciate it.

Josh: Um, how many have we got left?

Tommy: Well, I didn't count how many we had in the start. 1, 2, 2 and a half over here.

Josh: Okay, so I think I've had 2, so that's How about we do this?

Tommy: How many of these do you have?

Josh: Have you— has everyone had a choc chip?

Tommy: Mason hasn't had any other than the little bit I threw him.

Josh: Okay.

George: Yeah.

Josh: All right, so I think that we give that to Mason. He gets a full one of these. Amy and Bree get a cookie each.

Tommy: Sure.

Josh: Yeah, for supporting us. And then we've got these are the, the special, the grandmas. Yeah, 1, 2, 3, 4. We can divvy it up. We'll work out what to do. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. If you've listened this far, take a screen grab, put it on your Insta storeys so that we know that you're listening, because we really do appreciate it. If you are on YouTube, click the subscribe button, like the video as well. That always helps.

Tommy: Otherwise, we'll see you Monday.

George: Catch you guys.