Fashion, Cars & Crime With Jess Lucas

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.

Josh: That's crazy. We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

Tommy: Hi guys.

Jess: Hi guys.

Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

Tommy: It is outrageous.

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 970.

Tommy: Jess Lucas. Hi.

Jess: Hello.

Tommy: GM is in the building.

Jess: Hello.

Tommy: You're always in the building. You're just on the show today.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: And it's Chewy Tuesday.

Jess: Yay, I'm excited.

Tommy: So I've brought—

Josh: I'm so glad that Tommy remembered.

Tommy: I said my segment. Two chewies to choose from today, thanks to the Redfern Convenience Store. An Extra Long Lasting flavour. This is a sweet watermelon flavour.

Josh: Yum.

Tommy: Sugar-free gum. Or we've got— who wants to get fired up? Energy gum.

Josh: Nicotine.

Tommy: With caffeine from guarana. One piece contains 25 milligrammes of caffeine. Sugar-free gum. Who wants what?

Josh: I'm going to start with the watermelon, please.

Tommy: There's no moving to— There's only one.

Josh: Oh, we're doing one. Okay.

Jess: Do you want more energy for the rest of the day?

Tommy: What do you feel like? Do you need to fire up, son? Or do you need to—

Josh: What would you like, Jess?

Tommy: Watermelon out.

Jess: I want the caffeine one because you guys had cherry last week. So, let's go something different. Okay, sure.

Tommy: Good point.

Josh: All right. So, has anyone had nicotine gum before?

Tommy: Yes. Yes.

Josh: What does it taste like? This isn't nicotine gum, this is an energy thing.

Tommy: Tastes like pepper. Like, it tastes like a bit spicy.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: It's bizarre. Like, it's a bit minty, but then they're definitely not a Wrigley's gum.

Josh: Have you had a nicotine chewing?

Jess: No, I haven't. No, I was gonna say, surely none of us have had it because none of us are smokers.

Tommy: Well, no, I don't, I don't smoke, but I had a friend that was on the nicotine gum and I just had one.

Josh: So, what is this called again?

Jess: Jess? Drive gum. So I wonder if it's for when you are meant to be driving. It's like nicotine for cigarettes, not having that, but this is instead of having a drink maybe, so that you don't need to wee.

Tommy: There you go. All right, it's, um, tastes like a Cool Mint. Remember the Cool Mints? They're not even chewies, they're just like a sugary ball.

Josh: So are these like No-Dos?

Jess: If you feel tired while driving Our advice is stop and take a rest and have a chewy and have a chewy and then get fired up and keep driving.

Josh: Go have a look, please.

Tommy: I mean, in terms of, uh, flavour profile, just your standard mint, not even that strong.

Josh: Yeah, are you going to—

Jess: thick though, don't you think?

Josh: They are a thicker chewy.

Tommy: Are you a big boy?

Josh: Are you going to chew the whole time?

Jess: Do you want me to swallow?

Tommy: No, Bodhi, don't pull a Bodhi. Bodhi swallows his chewing gum.

Jess: I swallowed some before I came on.

Josh: Oh, really? That's not good. I think we could just put it on the back of the packet or something so we're not chewing the whole time. Do we all agree?

Tommy: No, not on the back of the packet.

Jess: No, you need to get the effects.

Tommy: That's the packet that everyone else has.

Josh: Yeah, sure. So what are we going to do with it?

Tommy: I feel like we're doing edibles and we're waiting for it to kick in.

Jess: We are.

Josh: Put it on the desk. Can we put it on the desk?

Tommy: Put it on your side if you don't want it.

Josh: Thank you. I was watching the Billie Eilish documentary.

Jess: Is it good?

Josh: It's really good.

Tommy: It was George's recommendation. And coming off the back of— was that you, Cecil Hotel?

Jess: It was, yeah.

Tommy: Which I got fired up about that recommendation. You were saying it was so great. I'm just looking for a recommendation to bash you down because you beat down my Fire Saga.

Josh: Oh, yeah.

Jess: Oh, I have a funny storey about that, actually.

Tommy: See, this is—

Josh: Okay, go.

Jess: I'm talking to a guy on Hinge who, um, stood in apparently for Will— what's his—

Josh: Ferris. Will Ferrell. Yeah, Ferris.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jess: 4-Hour Comedy in that documentary or whatever it was.

Josh: Yeah, it's not— it was—

Tommy: yeah, it was—

Josh: that's why you didn't like it.

Jess: It was honestly—

Josh: it's not a documentary.

Jess: That was honestly the world's worst movie. But yeah, apparently it's a question on his Hinge profile.

Josh: But do you do know that that means that he looks like Will Ferrell?

Jess: How?

Josh: Like, he does. Wow.

Jess: Not like Will, him. He just has the long hair.

Tommy: He looks—

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Like in that film.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: The character. So, he's the body double.

Josh: So, was it filmed in Australia? Was it?

Tommy: No, no, no. It was like Iceland or fucking some Scandinavian.

Josh: No, but did they actually film like those? I could imagine them doing it up in the Gold Coast or something, you know, getting some sort of garage.

Tommy: You're right. There is a lot going on up there.

Jess: I'm not sure. We haven't gotten there yet.

Tommy: How far have you got?

Jess: We're just chatting.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: There's nothing. Nah, no dates yet.

Tommy: Nah.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, yeah. I don't know that area.

Josh: But so, Billie Eilish.

Tommy: Yeah. So, Billie Eilish.

Josh: Really interesting. Really great documentary. It's on Apple TV Plus and it goes for 2 hours and 20 minutes. That's a long film, don't you think? 2 hours, 20 minutes.

Tommy: It is.

Josh: Yeah. So, Bri and I have watched half and we're going to watch the other half. But I just liked it because it's very raw. She hates the process. She hates writing, but she does it.

Tommy: And she writes all her music?

Josh: With her bro.

Tommy: Her bro, who's a producer.

Josh: He's awesome.

Tommy: He actually sampled the pedestrian crossing sound effect in Melbourne and used it in one of her huge bangers. I don't know which one.

Jess: Oh, really?

Tommy: It's a fun fact about it. Any other fun facts about Billie Eilish? How old is she now? 18?

Josh: So, she was born in 2001.

Tommy: Geez.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: She's nearly 20.

Josh: Yeah. But they wear the same headphones as us when they're making beats. And there was a bit of me where I was like, I would love to be a music guy. Like what I love, I know I can't sing. I can't sort of play guitar. I don't even understand how music works.

Tommy: It's one of the more creative endeavours that gets a lot of clout if you're good. So I've been pushed in Facebook a, what are they called? Masterclass.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: By Timbaland, who's a producer, and he builds out. So it's like this minute and a half trailer and he builds out his songs with his mouth. So he does like beatboxing and the melody and stitches it all together. So he actually has a song based on his mouth and he says that the reason I do it is because it was too hard to explain to someone what I was thinking. So I just fucking did it with my mouth.

Josh: Oh, that's cool.

Tommy: But now he's one of the greatest producers.

Josh: Anyway, I think it's a very good watch. And I also think that her style is very unique.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: She has a lot of— I feel like you would get her. I could actually imagine you dressing like Billie Eilish with the jewellery she wears.

Jess: Like, she's pretty grunge.

Josh: Yeah. You're pretty grunge, don't you think? Like, how much jewellery have you got on right now? You've got like— Okay.

Jess: Bracelet. Yeah, I mean, you were hearing that before.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jess: Yeah, like a big goth. Yeah, I mean, I used to be goth, but you got reformed.

Tommy: Like your, your leathery jackets, your, your boots, just your vibe, your layers. I'm not that girly, but you're fashionable.

Josh: But accessories are nice. I think there was like— I, um, having like— I still haven't got my G-Shock. If you're an OG listener, You probably— Do you remember me talking about my watch when I got the watch? I was the watch guy. Yeah. Like, I got it. So, it's a big chunky G-Shock and it's GPS. It uses the GPS to set the time, but it's not working at the moment, but it's not smart enough where you're looking at a screen. It's really old school where you sort of have to press a button, hold it and do all these things, point it out at the sun.

Tommy: But it's turned back on, hasn't it?

Josh: It's turned back on, but it's the wrong time. I can't work out how to—

Jess: Does it count steps?

Josh: No, it doesn't do anything like that. But I just like the idea of a nice accessory. I feel a little bit more sort of put together when I have an accessory.

Tommy: It's a very functional accessory. Like seeing, I would think, I mean, accessories are watches, aren't they? But like rings, bracelets, useless accessories other than visually. Because a watch has a, like, I can't do anything. I've got my rings that I wear, which I love. But it's not as functional. I mean, it's actually this. My ring does more than your watch at this point.

Jess: Because my watch is pointing into the sun.

Josh: It gives me the wrong, yeah, this gives me the wrong time. So, accessories-wise, like, are you a silver person or white gold or like?

Jess: If I could afford white gold, it would be that. And I expect my engagement ring eventually to be that.

Tommy: But white gold.

Jess: White gold. I wanted to be a gold person, but I just can't change now. It's too expensive because I have so many piercings. All my jewellery is silver, so I have to stay that way. Yeah, I did ask for actual gold for my 30th last year.

Tommy: What did you get?

Jess: I didn't get—

Tommy: what did you get?

Jess: A voucher instead to buy something for myself, which I never did.

Tommy: And you haven't bought it yet?

Jess: I just chucked it in savings.

Tommy: Oh, the cash.

Josh: No, she didn't say cash. It sounded like catch, like a catch.

Tommy: No, I thought it was— yeah, like a catch of the day.

Jess: Yeah, yeah. Mum gave me this, though. So, that's kind of like—

Josh: So, it's like a wrist— It's like a bracelet.

Jess: Yeah. Sorry. It was her. She just didn't wear it from ages ago.

Josh: I've actually— My auntie, I remember she got all of her gold jewellery and melted it down into another piece of jewellery. Have you seen that? It's quite cool.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: So, you can get like— She got one big gold bangle made. Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, thieves do that, too. Get the gold, melt it down. No, you can.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Actually, it's a good idea.

Jess: Kim K's ring, they like smash it up into little ones.

Tommy: Well, if you get jewellery off your parent, it has come from a different generation. Most likely it's not going to be for you. And so, it is a nice thing to do, melt it down, put— Make it something you want to wear every day.

Jess: Yes.

Tommy: This ring. So, this ring here is my grandfather's.

Josh: So, it's on your— It was on your right hand. So, on the far—

Tommy: All the rings have the story. My little pinky has a silver ring on it, which was black. It was like a, it was like a poly. Yeah, it was like a, um, it's like a stain through chemical stain.

Josh: That's cool.

Tommy: And it goes black, but then it rubs off and goes, this is my wedding ring.

Josh: Why are you wearing it?

Tommy: Amy bought me this, opened it, she read it upside down, my size, which was a 9, she bought a 6. So, so then it went on my little finger. Then my mum said, have this, this was Tom's. My grandfather's. And then that became my wedding ring, which has now moved to my right hand. And now on my wedding ring is the one that we got through my sister-in-law and her sister made it. It's this sort of crown-looking ring. It's sick.

Josh: It is really cool.

Tommy: It's very—

Josh: What goes into the process of making that, do you know?

Tommy: Well, there's a mould and then it's like scratched. It's like, and it's got little, literally looks like a crown on someone's head, but it's imperfect. Like there's all different sizes. Of the little— Yeah, I love it. So good.

Jess: When Tommy first got it, we couldn't work out which way it should go.

Tommy: Oh, yeah.

Jess: I thought it would be better the other way, but I think that's because that's the way I'm looking at it.

Tommy: Yeah. That way. Because the crowns are currently facing up to my nail. When I look at it, looks like a crown on a head. But if you put it the other way and when you look at it like that, if I'm like that, you see the crown to you. No, no, no.

Josh: It makes so much more sense what you're doing. Yeah.

Tommy: This way. There you go.

Josh: Yeah. And so Jess, you were talking about in the future you want X sort of ring. What do you think in regards to directing partners on what to buy? Would you expect to basically know what the engagement ring is before you get it? Would you ever be engaged to without a ring?

Tommy: Um, it's a bit lazy.

Jess: Yeah, that's really lazy. It would have to depend on the circumstances for the latter. Um, but I, I I'm so for choosing what you want.

Josh: As in you choosing what you want or?

Jess: I already have a Pinterest board of what I want.

Tommy: That's handy.

Josh: So, you just send the Pinterest.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: Amy sort of flagged that she loved this designer. And so, I then found that. I just made note of the first one she ever told me. Got that.

Josh: I mean, it's funny. Bree's been with me for 13 years, has no Pinterest board.

Jess: And I'm single.

Josh: And you're single and you have got it all dialled in, ready to go.

Jess: You've just got to put it out to the universe, you know. I want a pear shape. So it's kind of like round on the top and then pointed in the middle.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jess: And the only thing that I don't know, I'd have to confirm later, like closer to the time, is whether I want just a plain thin band or if I want little diamonds around the outside. But yeah, very clean. Yeah.

Josh: The diamond thing's interesting, isn't it?

Tommy: Is it?

Josh: Well, just because it's not woke. It's not woke to have diamonds.

Tommy: Wow. Are you talking about blood diamonds?

Jess: Yeah. You're talking about Leonardo DiCaprio's one.

Josh: Are there any ethical diamonds? So there are ethical diamonds.

Jess: Surely there's ethical diamonds?

Josh: Probably more expensive, you would think, isn't it?

Tommy: But then how would you know?

Jess: If I get a synthetic one?

Josh: Yeah, so not good. You wouldn't be happy with that.

Jess: Absolutely not. No.

Tommy: The best is, is a guy on YouTube that has this, it's this little machine that has like an LCD screen on the side and it has like a little pin and you push it into a diamond and it can tell you the quality of it. And he gets the rappers who have all the big fucking chains.

Josh: Oh, that's cool. Is that on YouTube?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. And he tests the diamonds of these rappers. To see if they're legit.

Josh: Yeah. Well, I feel like I would love to do something quirky. Like, I could be— I would be the guy that would, you know, be walking past a $2 shop and be like, oh my God, this actually looks really cool. It would be great. But I don't think Bri is that girl.

Tommy: No.

Josh: And so, I think that it wouldn't necessarily match it, like telling the storey of, yeah, I found it and it was like at some random $2 shop. It doesn't have the same.

Tommy: It has a good story. Same ring to it, but not $2 shop. You can't get fucking anything in the $2 shop worth buying, not for a ring.

Jess: Do you know what would be cute though? Just getting the diamond and then, because obviously it's quite easy to get, they know that I want a pear shape, and then you just get the diamond and then you go away and design it.

Tommy: Yeah, I like that. Okay, so that just comes in a box or something, and so yeah, you're opening it up and you're seeing a diamond. Would you be Would you be shocked if you just saw a rock in there? No ring. It can't really, there's no photo holding up a. Yeah. Holding it up.

Josh: Fallout, really.

Jess: Depended on the size, obviously. Nah, I'd be stoked with that because I think he's taking into consideration what I want.

Josh: Well, Billie Eilish, like, I feel like it's not expensive what she's like. Hers is more sort of quirky. So, she will have like 6 watches on. And they're all— they all just seem like watches that you would see at like—

Tommy: 6 watches on at once?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Jesus. Maybe different time zones. She's—

Josh: no, I think it's just like the vibe, a real clickety-clackety when she's sort of walking around. And just, you know, you see when she's like, um, driving and she's holding the steering wheel and you just see so, so many rings. Not good for using the laptop though. I could imagine the MacBook Pro getting quite scratched.

Tommy: Oh, with long nails.

Josh: Not even the— She does have long nails, but the rings.

Tommy: The rings. But I've seen like green nails on her before.

Jess: Did she explain that? Why she likes the colour green?

Josh: No, not at this point. But she's very hands-on in regards to her music videos. So, she went and performed at Coachella. There was a bunch of technical issues. She forgot the words. Did she? During the song. She was really pissed off about that. But—

Tommy: Well, hey, to the process. Didn't learn them.

Josh: Yeah. But I didn't know who this guy was. And neither did she. The Katy Perry's partner?

Tommy: Boyfriend? Orlando Bloom.

Josh: Yeah. Orlando Bloom.

Tommy: Husband.

Josh: Yes. He's a big fan of Billie Eilish. And watching the scene, please everyone go watch the film and watch the scene because he is like, I just love you. So, he's like really like kissing her, like Billie and being like, you know,, you know, I love you, you're great. She didn't know who he was. She thought she was— He was just Katy Perry's mate and then found out it was Orlando Bloom.

Tommy: Well, she's very young. I mean, you don't— Do you know who he is?

Josh: Orlando Bloom. He's a—

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Actor.

Tommy: He is an actor. But I mean, I could imagine young kids sort of not grasping.

Jess: She wouldn't have grown up with The Hobbit.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, that's what he's from. So, really, that's what he's been in.

Jess: The Hobbit, Pirates of the Caribbean.

Tommy: Yeah, that was a big role for him.

Josh: And so he also dated Miranda Kerr. Yes.

Tommy: Oh, that's right.

Jess: They have a baby together.

Tommy: They have a baby. And Orlando has a baby with Katy Perry.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Fuck, he's just, you know, dude getting some—

Jess: He's pretty sexy.

Tommy: He's breeding.

Josh: Yeah. Did you ever get into the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show?

Jess: Yeah, I loved watching that every year.

Josh: Would you actually make a date of it? Would you like all your friends get together and watch it or?

Jess: No, because when we were younger, it was always on when we were down at the beach with my cousins. So, we always made a thing of it there, but then not really afterwards. It's a little bit depressing.

Tommy: So, you're saying that you wouldn't get pink robes and pink doughnuts and all sit around and eat.

Jess: Watching the gazelles. Yes. You wouldn't do that?

Josh: No. That's what I did. Yeah. But now they don't do it anymore.

Tommy: It's cancelled.

Josh: Yeah. They've stopped. They've stopped doing it.

Tommy: Why have they cancelled it?

Josh: I don't know. It was pre-COVID. I think they just probably— It's probably costing them too much. Costing them too much.

Tommy: They would always have someone really good performing.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: On the runway.

Josh: Yeah, they would have like, I think the last one was The Weeknd.

Tommy: The Weeknd, Kanye West and Jay-Z performed. That was sick. In Paris.

Jess: Taylor's performed.

Tommy: Taylor.

Josh: What about like, you know, I feel like Victoria's Secret, Victoria's Secret, Victoria's Secret.

Jess: Victoria's, yeah.

Josh: Victoria's Secret. Yeah. It's Daylesford. Go cheque it out. No, Victoria's Secret. You see them at a lot of airports.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: I was talking to Bree about Sephora and we're going through— I was trying to flex in front of our friend all the, um, that I know about cosmetics. And so I was like, oh, have you checked out Adore Beauty? She's like, oh no, I haven't. Are you sure?

Tommy: That's online?

Josh: Yeah, Adore Beauty is online.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: And then I was like, ah, um, what do you think of Sephora? What do you think of Sephora in Australia? Like, I know like the range is different to the US. And then I went through So, when I would go to the States, I would always have to get, bring back stuff for Bri. I was trying to remember the brands and there was NARS. So, the NARS stuff I'd always get and then Benefit Cosmetics you apparently couldn't get. Are there any sort of brands that when you go overseas, you're always seeking out? Or do you feel like you can get everything here now?

Jess: No, I feel like I can get everything here now. But when I go overseas, I love looking for new things.

Josh: Zara, apparently better in Europe. What do you think?

Jess: Better in Europe and Japan. Oh, really? It's so good. I bought so much stuff when I went to Japan.

Tommy: What, different range?

Jess: Different range, yeah. Because I guess it's different seasons.

Josh: Yeah. I think also like Spain, for instance, very inexpensive, some of the Zara stuff, like it's a lot more sort of affordable. But yeah.

Tommy: Isn't that where it's from, Spain, isn't it?

Josh: Oh, I wouldn't know.

Jess: I actually don't know.

Josh: Yeah, you could be right there, but it feels like it's less of a thing. So Sephora was like the bee's knees, but then Mecca in the last like 5 or 6 years have done a very good job. So they don't necessarily— Sephora didn't come to Australia with all the exclusives like they've got in the US. Some of the US exclusives actually sit with Mecca here in Australia.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I went to the garage when we were in LA, went to the Grove. There was nothing really that exciting. It's lost its shine.

Josh: Well, shoes. So, we even spoke about that when like that used to be a big thing when you would go over the US. Yeah, shoes. You'd get cheap shoes.

Tommy: Movies being released early.

Josh: Yeah. DVDs. Like my brother, like brought home all these DVDs and you bought a DVD player that was like region locked, unlocked so you could watch anything.

Jess: Is that like when you go to Bali and you come home with like, oh, it's one up, it's one up from that.

Tommy: Less illegal.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: Less illegal. Just the region thing.

Josh: I had a box set of Lizzie McGuire.

Jess: I love Lizzie McGuire.

Josh: Yeah. From Bali. Yeah, it was a mate's one. It's just like, you know, printer job. You know, they've used inkjet printers to print all the labels.

Tommy: And there used to be a— You could buy a piece of paper that you could print on to sit like a CD printer. Do you remember that?

Josh: Yes. Yeah.

Tommy: And it had like a button to press and it would like stamp it out. Oh, old school.

Josh: Yeah, it was a real thing. What about even like CD-ROMs? Like you'd have, or like you'd have 2 CD thing, DVDs, you'd have like the burner, the second one, and then you'd have the one that's like the disc goes in. Oh, the one above.

Tommy: We've got a PC computer. Does that have a CD drive in it?

Josh: That's a great question.

Tommy: Because we're doing hypnobirthing at the moment, classes, and we got this book. It's part of it. In the back is a CD.

Josh: What are you gonna do? He's got it.

Jess: I have a CD drive in my car.

Tommy: Do you?

Jess: Yeah. Really? It still has the same— the people that I got it off, they've left their discs in there. So, what's in there?

Tommy: Oh, like a 6-stacker?

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: Remember stackers? My Beamer has stackers.

Josh: Ours has a stacker, I think, still.

Tommy: Your current Hyundai?

Josh: Nah, nah, sure. No chance. It's got a CD thing, though. It does. We actually found out, we thought that, um, When we bought the car, we thought it was from, you know, some businesswoman or whatever. And then what we found out is actually an ex-Avis rental. Rental.

Jess: That's upsetting.

Josh: It's not good, is it?

Tommy: It's not too bad.

Jess: How many people have sat in that chair?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Or thrashed it.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. Like, we found half a bread roll in the seat, you know, like you can open up the seat sort of thing. And Bri did sort of like a deep clean when we got it. And found a piece of bread. But yeah, it turns out, yeah, we were looking at the, we're looking at the i30.

Tommy: It was Josh's.

Josh: He just said, mate, I reckon it was the last owner's. But no, so I think it was because we found one of the old manuals for the car and it had like property of Avis sort of thing on there.

Tommy: I told you my Honda Civic that I bought came with one key. Dodgy.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Ours only came with one key, the i30.

Tommy: I found the key. Lodged down the side of the seat, just like in this crack, and I got it out. Fucking, that is a win.

Jess: It's not very responsible though, is it?

Tommy: Oh, for the other people?

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I bought it off a dodgy car salesperson. Is there dodgy car salespeople still? Like, I mean, all of them. Yeah, like, there has to— I mean, the secondhand—

Josh: I saw a car sales article, article that said that It's never been a better time to sell your secondhand car.

Tommy: Why?

Josh: It's on the up. So, apparently with maybe because of a bit of COVID people aren't, you know, spending money on new cars.

Jess: Yeah. Had this same conversation last night with a friend.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Who brought that piece of information?

Jess: She did, because she's pregnant as well, due the same week as you. Really? Yeah. And they're trying to find a car and she's like, we just can't. There's no, because they've Apparently reduced production by 30%, so there's no new cars and then everyone's trying to buy secondhand cars as well. Really? Yeah.

Tommy: Far out.

Josh: It does make you think about how you can— Should we sell our car? Well, yeah, selling, no, selling the car, like, you know.

Tommy: Make a bit of money.

Josh: Yeah.

Jess: Make more money now than you would in a couple of years' time in your upgrade.

Tommy: But it's so little. It's such little money.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: We all should have bought cars earlier days and kept them. My mate's car has gone up $100,000.

Josh: That doesn't happen, though. I mean, that's not like if you're talking depreciating assets or whatever.

Tommy: Nissan Skyline GT-R 34 V-Spec.

Josh: It's, um, sick unit.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, buy them anymore.

Josh: Yeah, I guess the thing is you need, like most cars, it's that whole thing, once you drive it out, it's like, you know, I drop, taking drops.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Um, dream cars?

Jess: Um, mine would probably be either something really old but like nicely done up which still goes like somewhat quick, or maybe like a Lambo or something like that. No, no, no, no.

Tommy: Um, you get it tomorrow and you get to drive it to work tomorrow and park it in our garage.

Jess: You've got a Hilux vibe, a Range Rover.

Tommy: Oh yeah, definitely.

Jess: Okay, black Rangey, like everything, leather seats, just fit in our garage.

Tommy: Yeah, you wouldn't get a Lambo up our ditch.

Jess: No, I can barely get my car up that ditch.

Tommy: Well, you've got a Ferrari.

Josh: What year is it again? No, um, what would your be, TJ?

Tommy: Oh, tomorrow, um, I'd probably get an SLS Mercedes gullwing. They're sick. Suicide doors.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's cool.

Tommy: Um, they don't make them anymore, so they're— and they're— so they're going up in price. A certain one of the certain types they're not making anymore. So good though. It's probably a $400,000 or $500,000 car, definitely.

Josh: I'll tell you mine, but I'll just say I just caught myself on the screen, my mo doesn't translate well to video.

Tommy: Does it? Video is real life. Video is what we're seeing.

Jess: Yeah, really young in that shot.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it looks weird. I think it's because I've got my hat backwards, maybe. Um, yeah, yeah, car-wise, I think, um, like the Teslas and stuff are nice. Obviously that's a classic. Yeah, yeah, but The Cybertruck.

Tommy: Oh, is that still happening?

Josh: I wonder if Seb's still got the deposit down.

Tommy: Well, he's still got the deposit down because—

Josh: Maybe he just cashed it in last night.

Jess: Can you cash it in?

Josh: I'm sure you could.

Tommy: Get your money back. So, Mr97 put down a deposit for a Cybertruck, which is Tesla's first play in the forward—

Josh: For the ute.

Tommy: The ute-looking—

Josh: Yeah. But it doesn't look like a ute at all. Like, it is ridiculous.

Tommy: It looks like it's from the— It's off Mars.

Josh: And so, It famously was— Elon Musk did a demo of how strong the windows were and he threw a metal ball and it smashed.

Jess: Embarrassing.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, he said that he'd been throwing shit at it all day and then they reckon they cracked, potentially cracked a bottom of it, like the corner of it, which ruins the integrity.

Josh: Yeah, we, we watched the same Joe Rogan interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Cybertruck, it looks sick. Like it's I thought it would be a good car. It looks so fake, doesn't it? Look at it. I thought it would be a cool car to like, you know, like the Daily Talk Show doing the rounds.

Tommy: Well, no one was going to buy it.

Josh: Are you serious?

Tommy: No, as in, as in no one of our team was actually going to pay for it. You heard last week's episode.

Josh: $150,000? You think?

Tommy: Well, that's who knows.

Josh: Yeah. But so Billie Eilish said she wanted this specific matte black car. Tesla? Or just car? No, it was just a car. It was like a Dodge or something.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And she got it for her birthday. Maybe it wasn't even her birthday. It was like maybe selling some albums or something.

Tommy: Is she— Is her fate on the earth or is she, you know, out of control? She's—

Josh: Imagine being 18. Yeah, I'm wary of being critical because it's like an extremely hard existence. Obviously, I think that she is like, she is herself. And so, in that moment, she's like, nah, fuck that, I don't want to do that. Or like just stuff that you get the right to do when you've become that successful. Yeah, exactly.

Jess: Yeah. So, have you guys watched the different, the yearly videos that she does?

Tommy: Oh, yeah. I haven't actually. Who makes those?

Jess: It's so interesting. Vogue, I think. Yeah.

Tommy: And so, it's her reacting to herself a year previous.

Jess: Yeah. So, like, one of the questions is, who's the most famous person's number that you've got in your phone? And each year it just, like, gets bigger and better. Like, the epitome is going to be Beyoncé, I think.

Tommy: Who's yours?

Jess: You guys.

Tommy: Who's yours, John?

Josh: I don't know.

Jess: Yeah, you've got a couple.

Josh: Yeah, there'd be some.

Tommy: Amy's Blake.

Josh: Yeah, that's got to be up there. I've got— You went, like, what US Who, yeah, who do you have?

Tommy: Do you have, um, uh, Minimalist? Minimalist, yeah.

Josh: Um, there's got to be—

Tommy: I've got Drake Bell from Drake and Josh.

Josh: Never forget.

Jess: Oh, really?

Josh: Yeah, tell the story.

Tommy: Oh, we just met him out at a nightclub, partied with him, went back to his place, um, and the guy has these Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards all over the joint, just fucking orange balloons everywhere. Quirky night. Fucking wild. He was playing for us, singing for us. It was great. He's actually a great singer.

Jess: That's really cool.

Tommy: Anyway, hit him up the next time I went back. Didn't hear back from him.

Josh: It's got to be some comedians or something. Anyway, the— It is strange, like Clubhouse and stuff, you give your contact list and so it will tell you which friends.

Tommy: Oh, you can see it. It's like WhatsApp or Telegram. You start seeing who's appearing. In your contacts, even if you haven't spoken to them.

Josh: What's really weird is it will tell you a person's name who you have in the contacts who isn't on the platform and will tell you how many of their friends are on the platform.

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: Isn't that weird?

Jess: Bit invasive.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, like, yeah. So, it would say like Tommy Jackett, if you weren't on the platform, and it would say 17 friends. So, you can actually see some of the people who are really giving pushback to Clubhouse because it's like if they haven't signed up and they've got so many friends that are on there and they haven't done it, they're the outlier.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, it'd be annoying being someone like Richard Wilkins. Yeah.

Josh: So, Richard Wilkins.

Tommy: I was about to say Richard Wilkins.

Josh: He has 148.

Tommy: Oh, we've got Dickie's number, don't we?

Josh: Yeah. That's why he's come up. Richard Wilkins, 148 friends on Clubhouse. It's not on it. Andy Lee, 111, not on it.

Tommy: Hamish Blake on there?

Josh: Yeah, but he must be further down. Scott Pape's got 65 mates, but he's not on there.

Tommy: Come on, Papey.

Josh: Where's City of Casey? What the fuck is that number?

Tommy: I need to know. For some reason, my phone has just duplicated every one of my contacts.

Josh: That's so annoying.

Jess: Saved on your SIM and on the phone?

Josh: That's old school, isn't it? But it hasn't been—

Tommy: that hasn't been the case. I don't know how it's happened. I've got two Jess Lucases in there.

Josh: Very annoying.

Jess: So when I call, does it go Jess Lucas and Jess Lucas might be calling you?

Tommy: Yes, look at them all, just double up, double up of everybody. So many random people. I really need to go through what it is. Do you ever do a cleanse of your Contacts.

Jess: Yeah, I don't really save anyone's number unless I need to.

Tommy: Geez, I've got so many random people in here I need to go. These need to go.

Josh: You were talking about that hotel documentary that Jess suggested you were pushing back on.

Tommy: Yeah, look, Cecil Hotel. Cecil Hotel is the Gatwick in LA. The Gatwick's a— I mean, this is just a Melbourne reference, but, uh, cheap roomed sort of almost halfway house for people that have left jail or, you know, about dealing drugs.

Jess: Did I before I watched it?

Josh: No, about the Australian one. Gatwick.

Jess: Yeah. Yeah. The Block redid it.

Tommy: It was great. Interesting. These two sisters owned it, I think.

Josh: Modern thing to do, isn't it?

Jess: Yeah.

Josh: To have a reality show.

Jess: Yeah. But that's what. Yeah. That's what Melbourne loves doing.

Tommy: Yes. So anyway, the Cecil Hotel. I was going to tell another story. The Cecil Hotel. Documentary about a girl that goes missing there, and I couldn't get past first episode. Jess raved about it.

Jess: I think I was just in a crime thriller headset, maybe mind frame.

Tommy: Is that, is that your go-to?

Josh: Headspace?

Jess: Headspace.

Tommy: Is that what you go to? Exactly.

Josh: She's got a headset on, full VR, just watching crime. I'm being fucking stabbed.

Tommy: It is the, it is is the go-to, like, that is podcasting crime. Majority of people who listen to podcasts are probably just on crime. Yes.

Josh: Yeah, we were to get popular, one of us is going to have to kill the other. Yeah.

Tommy: And you know, I will choke you out.

Jess: Do you want to know about an interesting podcast? Sorry to slightly change the subject that I've been listening to. I reckon you'll get around it.

Josh: Okay.

Jess: It's called The Apology Line.

Josh: Who's done this? Is this Vice? So it feels very Vicey.

Jess: Well, it was from the '80s when this guy started it. He— it was when obviously there was no smartphones, no internet, that kind of thing. And he set up this line that people could call up and confess and apologise for things that they've done. And essentially he had a few people that were regulars, and one of them was a murderer. Oh, and he would talk about, yeah, the stuff that he'd done and that kind of thing. It's really interesting, and it's about the psychology because obviously he's listening and he's getting to know these people, and they're having conversations through this the voicemail and then—

Josh: Is it a payphone thing or is it like it's a—

Jess: So he said like to remain anonymous, call through a payphone. Yeah, so it was all anonymous. He wouldn't talk to the police about anything, but yeah.

Josh: And he's released it as a podcast.

Jess: Yes, his wife has, ex-wife.

Tommy: Why do we like crime so much? Like, remember Making a Murderer? The thing didn't go anywhere.

Josh: Well, I think part of it is like they say that women like crime more is because it's relatable. Because they're like all murderers. No, no, because they experience that. No, no, because you experience fucking the most amount of violence.

Tommy: That's interesting. More likely to as well.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, like because of the stats. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, something about learning about the shit you have to deal with.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What did— why do you like crime? We've got a female on the show. We've got a woman on the show.

Tommy: Amazing.

Josh: This is crazy. Tell us, Jess.

Jess: I don't know. I don't know why. Like, I think it's just— I'm glad I asked. I may— maybe it's the unknown and trying to figure it out, like the detective in you.

Josh: We all love a story, and that could be, you know, it's the— it's not the drama of it all. It's— yeah, it's definitely the dot connect. It's the dot. It's the problem solving.

Tommy: But it's— I mean, we love problem solving, which we do, but any good documentary can suck you into a hole that they've dug, which is what Cecil Hotel does. They crafted a narrative which, which was ridiculous, and they've been slammed for it because it was sensationalised. The girl that ends up going missing— spoiler alert.

Jess: No, you can't tell people this. Nah, it's a new-ish documentary.

Josh: Wait, so spoiler alert, spoiler alert, go.

Tommy: Spoiler alert, the girl who goes missing I think took her own life or she was having a manic episode. She was a manic.

Jess: She was in psychosis.

Tommy: She was, she's manic bipolar and went up onto the roof and got into a water tank. But the way they painted it is like, oh my God, this mystery, she's gone missing, who's killed her? Then they thread in all these other angles of murderers that have been in that hotel. When they hold off on mentioning a bit about, which they reference her medication at one point. But they never say that she was manic bipolar in the first bit. And when you see her and this footage, the last scene footage of her, which you see in episode 1. Yep. You see in episode 1. I watched that and I was like, oh, this is off. Like she's in trouble. She's mentally very unstable and something's going on. And then I just after that I read and then I'm like, oh shit, this is blowing up. Like so many articles about how they've sensationalised it. And this poor woman's like, think about the girl's family. Knew she was manic bipolar.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And they were from Canada and they came down to LA. Like, they just purposefully left out bits of the information to build it in the way they wanted to. Which is what all I'm saying about, like, whatever we're consuming. Like Serial. Think about all the articles about Serial, all the thousand hours download, uh, recorded of— what's his name?

Josh: What's Adnan up to?

Tommy: Yeah, he's in jail still.

Josh: Still.

Tommy: Yeah, dude.

Josh: He's like, fuck, I've got the number one podcast still in the world. In the world. Here I am, can't enjoy it. Before we go, that bin.

Tommy: So, chicken juice, Jess.

Josh: Yeah, so, uh, the, the bin still fucking stinks. I can smell bin right now. Can you explain what's happened? I didn't take— no, I didn't realise that you put it in every bin. So what happened?

Tommy: You're a monster.

Jess: I Okay, so what happened was yesterday I brought in my vegetables, which was broccoli, zucchini, and some roast lamb for lunch. And I think what happened was when I— when you and I walked in, the liquid from the broccoli has kind of leaked out of my container into the plastic bag that I— I knew that would happen, so I put them in the plastic bag. And, uh, essentially I've eaten my lunch, taken my takeaway container away, scrawled that plastic supermarket bag up and put it in my other carry bag. And overnight I've left it here and it's fermented or something's happened.

Josh: But you put it—

Tommy: So, it's grown a fucking head.

Josh: Yeah. But you—

Jess: It turned into a rat and died.

Josh: But you put it upstairs in the bin. And so, I removed—

Jess: No, before that it was in my carry bag, which is on my desk.

Josh: And so, why does it stink down here?

Jess: Because I didn't eat all of my broccoli yesterday and I chucked that in the bin.

Josh: So, there's two. So, there's two bits. Yeah. It reeks.

Jess: It absolutely reeks.

Tommy: It's 100% 100% a dead marsupial.

Josh: Yeah, it stinks. It actually smells like, remember I told the storey about it when I was working at the fire brigade? We did a Christmas episode of the show and we had a full-blown kitchen set up and we got a raw chicken that we painted black so it looked like there had been a fire. We pulled it out and there was smoke and everything. I think it was like 4 weeks later, it stunk. We couldn't work out what it was. Someone had put the raw chicken just back into the oven and it hadn't been used. And so, and it was like down in a warehouse thing where it's 40 degrees. It was disgusting. So, but this is what this smells like. It's only been a day, so that's crazy.

Jess: Well, to be fair, in your defense, remember this morning when I first got in, I was like, Tommy, what the fuck stinks in this office? I was like, it has to be the door open because Tommy had it wide open and the bins got changed this morning. Yeah, I was gagging. It was just me. It took a while to work out what it was. I was like, surely it can't be me.

Tommy: The paranoia.

Josh: That's not good. Do I smell like a dead animal?

Jess: It was disgusting.

Josh: No, it's not good. All right, thank you, Jessica, for coming on the show.

Tommy: Thanks, Jamie.

Josh: Thank you. All right, uh, it's The Daily Talk Show. If you enjoyed the show, please, uh, subscribe on your favourite podcast app or on YouTube and send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. We email back, it's great. Have a good one, guys. Bye-bye.