Tommy is reading a book by Ram Dass that Josh asks him about, describing its unusual quote-heavy layout.
Tommy calls him 'one of my gurus' and references his time spent with dying people and his book.
Referenced as a prolific Western meditation teacher who had his own guru and is discussed as an example of authentic spiritual teaching.
Tommy references enlightened spiritual teachers like Ram Dass who admit to still getting frustrated despite being considered 'holy'.
Tommy references the spiritual teacher and podcast host Ram Dass while telling a guru story he found compelling.
Josh switched from watching coronavirus news to listening to a Ram Dass meditation and instantly felt lighter.
Josh references the late spiritual teacher and his teachings on confessing deepest secrets.