Wedding Invitations & Expectations

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.

Josh: That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

Tommy: Hi guys. Hi guys.

Josh: Put it in the calendar. I just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

Tommy: It is outrageous.

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show episode 955.

Tommy: It is Chewy Tuesday. George Martin, can you, who is listening upstairs, bring down One packet of Chewy.

Josh: Can you bring the—?

Tommy: I say that because we've forgotten. That's—

Josh: I just sort of opened strong with that. I'm very excited. I'm like, my day's turned around. I totally forgot.

Tommy: And I was thinking, what are we doing today? And next minute— Yeah.

Josh: So, we made a video on Instagram about, is it Trident?

Tommy: Trident is just a brand. It's almost like would replicate the Extra of Australia. Wrigley's Extra. So, George has just given me 2 packets. Well, last week I was cut. Well, I wasn't cut. You weren't cut. I just took action into my own hands because George saved the day last week, which was at the last minute. Yes. He just pulls out a pack of the most standard chewy and says, and you're like, oh my God, should we choose that? I'll review that. Yes. It's like reviewing water. Everyone gets it.

Josh: I mean, I feel like there's probably, so I remember as a kid watching a lot of YouTube videos. It was actually on Vidler, if anyone, uh, yeah, remembered.

Tommy: Didn't Gary V put all his chips on that?

Josh: Yeah, Gary V thought Vidler was going to be the big video player. Turns out it was, um, was YouTube that ended up doing it. But fun fact, Matt D'Avella, one of his first clients was, uh, Vidler. Vidler. And so he would do all their—

Tommy: And they did not pay because they went under.

Josh: Yeah, I wonder. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, that startup money, that's how he, um, probably paid down his Student debt. Student debt, $97,382.

Tommy: We all know it. We love you, Matt.

Josh: And so, anyway, we have two here today that I'm actually surprised at how much it cost, I think. How much did it? Yeah.

Tommy: Well, it could be just the split screen. Hold yours up. Hold mine up. So, I'm holding a Trident Big Red, which— Sorry. A Trident cinnamon-flavoured chewing gum.

Josh: And I am holding a Big Red. Yeah.

Tommy: Which is old school.

Josh: But what I was saying is on Instagram yesterday, please go watch it. It's one of the best videos we've ever done. You reviewing one of the other Trident Chewies.

Tommy: It's like the original flavoured Trident Chewie.

Josh: What Bree was saying is she thinks that these have contaminated the blue one because we could both taste a lot of cinnamon.

Tommy: I couldn't. I couldn't taste anything. Oh, okay.

Josh: So, that must be it. Must be two people must be wrong.

Tommy: Well, no, I think your nostrils were contaminated and you were probably frothing for some cinnamon gum. Well, it's all you've been talking about for weeks, which is why I brought, I bought these. They did cost a lot. It was like $23 to have 3 packets of Chewy delivered because it was all in the delivery. It was, yeah, it's all from, all in delivery, but it was from the USA Food Shop. So, this week, which one?

Josh: Uh, let's go Big Red.

Tommy: Okay. All right. And then next week we'll try, um, the Trident, and on the same episode we'll then do a comparison between the Big Red and the Trident cinnamon gum.

Josh: So this is, um, Tuesday, uh, Chewy Tuesday.

Tommy: Chewy Tuesday in 60 seconds, which is usually the amount of time it takes to open a packet for Josh.

Josh: Smells good. Do you want the first stick? Here you go. Ah, now that's a good EDC. The amount of Chewies that you get. It almost looks like 3M strips. Oh my God.

Tommy: There you go. This is all coming back to me. So, the USA Food Store just so happened to be in the suburb that I grew up in, Gardenvale. I was Brighton, but Gardenvale was a little suburb with a little set of shops, and it had the USA Food Store where I got these. They've since moved. But I remember getting— It's changed. It used to be foil on the inside. I do remember. And then what you could do is you could do this, lick the packet, stick it on your forehead, and if you kept it there long enough, it would burn like no tomorrow. And it was a challenge, like a cinnamon burn. It was a cinnamon burn. It was full on. I just remember.

Josh: What did people do that with? People were doing burns.

Tommy: How's the buns? Let's not talk about that.

Josh: I've got one right here. Here we go. Chewy Tuesday, hit that like button.

Tommy: All right, surprisingly not as cinnamony as I thought it was. I have just had a coffee. Very sweet, very good. Any sugar?

Josh: Um, 2 grammes of sugar per serving.

Tommy: And cows. And a, and a serving is what?

Josh: One stick.

Tommy: It's a bit of sugar. Yeah, you've got especially—

Josh: we've bought lollies. That's annoying. Oh, that's annoying. Yeah, like annoying. So the number one ingredient, sugar. Sugar. Oh, then gum base. This is not— this is— the dentists are not going to like this. This is not sponsored by— well, FDI, don't move.

Tommy: Trident has zero sugar. So we'll get to that next week. But, um, I'm pretty happy, but the sugar has brought that down immensely, don't you think? Yep. I'll tell you where there'll be a lot of sugar— Bodhi's birthday this weekend.

Josh: Oh yeah, what have you got planned catering-wise?

Tommy: Um, well, Amy's looked after that, all of that, but there's, you know, your classics— piñata, candy. What's burning my tongue, by the way? Donuts. All of that stuff. Where are the doughnuts from? A nice place. I can't remember. Portuguese tarts, fairy bread, all of that stuff. 4-year-old's birthday party is just sugar city. But what I've noticed is like I've sent out the invitation and I've texted a photo and just said, love to see you there or whatever it be. I mean, some, Bodie has handed out a few in person. I think, I think there's some communication errors with just sending an image, an image and saying, hope you can be there. Because I got a few people write back, what time is it? Send me through the details. And I don't think this is just limited to the people I'm sending it to for this occasion. I sent my wedding invitation many years ago to a friend who is up in Sydney. I just, I mean, we just decided not to physically send, like it adds another $3 a card plus another $3. Like it's by the time you've sent 100 people an invite at $6 a head, you've got $600. It's like another cost that could be champagne, that could be red wine, whatever it is, that could be the cake, whatever it be. So I sent, I sent an invite to a mate. He's like, amazing, be there. He was away, um, and he was travelling with his, his partner at the time, and he said, I'll be there. He's like, flights are booked. Great. And so he was, he was flying in to Sydney on the Saturday and was going to get on a flight which he'd booked and paid for to fly straight down to Melbourne. Great. Messages me on the day, mate, can't make it. What's he done? Food poison— like, not food poisoning, like, um, upset tummy. They'd been to, I think, Cuba. Um, it was probably all the rum.

Josh: And, and so I didn't know there was a lot of rum. Is it Havana Club? Oh, is that a thing? Havana Club. What do they do? Havana is in Cuba.

Tommy: Yeah. And they've just— there is a Havana Club rum, pretty sure. They do cigars.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.

Tommy: Anyway, he apologised and I was like, I get it, man. You've just fucking flown in. You're sick. I can't fucking do much. He's literally booked it. He's literally used like, I booked. Anyway, I'm at the hotel, the Grand Hyatt or wherever it was, with the people that were in my groom's party. Groom's— is that how you say groom's party? Anyway, I was doing Snapchat and I've got a call from my mate. He's like, dude, I fucked up. He's like, I thought it was your engagement party, not your wedding.

Josh: He didn't read the invite properly.

Tommy: No, which is fair. It's like, that's fucking my fault for sending a digital copy.

Josh: Wait, so he would have still gone to the wedding with Spitty Bum? Is that what he's saying? He's like, dude, I'm—

Tommy: I'm so fucking sorry. He's— he sent me screenshots of his ticket, like, that he'd bought a plane ticket. So all the effort was there, and he's like, dude, if I knew, I would not have told you. I would have fucking just come.

Josh: Oh, that's nice.

Tommy: I just would have just come.

Josh: How many weddings do you go to a year? 70. Personally, 70. You're a wedding photographer? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Nah, um, I haven't been to one actually. Yeah, none last year. COVID. A couple of the year before. Maybe, no, maybe it was just one the year before. Not many.

Josh: I've got one in Adelaide at the end of the year. Do you? So, that'll be good. Yeah. Lucy. Lucy's getting married.

Tommy: Oh, yeah. What time of year? Like—

Josh: I think it must be November. Okay. September or November. I think it's November. Okay.

Tommy: So, it's November, it's summer. September, it's—

Josh: It's nice to travel to go to a wedding, I think. It is. It is. Yeah.

Tommy: No, it's great. It just depends on whose wedding it is. Yeah, sure. So if you get invited to a European wedding and you don't want to drop $10K on getting there.

Josh: Well, this is like your brother. He got married in Bali. Yeah. Sent out a lot of invites.

Tommy: Yeah. Thinking, well, it's in Bali, like not everyone's going to say yes. Yeah. Next minute. Yeah.

Josh: A lot of people.

Tommy: A lot of money. And that's how I met Amy.

Josh: Yeah, that's true. So I wouldn't have, if it wasn't for my brother, You know, what was it per head cost, do you reckon, in Bali?

Tommy: I don't know. He's coming in tomorrow. You can ask him if you want.

Josh: Yeah, that's a very Tommy Jackett thing to ask. Well, how much per head?

Tommy: Whatever people tell you, it's, it's add more.

Josh: What's your go-to in regards to giving someone a gift for the wedding?

Tommy: For a wedding? Okay, so there was a go-to. What you used? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't done it in a little while, but I had, I had been to a couple of weddings and I'd done this. There's two little books. They're like the size of a playing card. And for him, for her. And it's rules of marriage from the 1800s. And it's like you read it through, it's like the most fucked up shit, but it's just stupid.

Josh: That's good. Stupid shit from like the—

Tommy: And cast. A legit book. A legit book. Or no? Cash is alright. Have I given cash? I've given cash at a few weddings. The wells, are the wells a big thing? I went to one and there was a well. Let me tell you. We, so it was my brother, his partner, myself that went to this wedding.

Josh: Cinnamon's gone, by the way. How long did that last? That's not that long. Is yours still going or? Oh, I've turned it off. Oh, you took it off.

Tommy: Because I want to enjoy my coffee. We forgot the wishing well present.

Josh: Okay. Which is cash.

Tommy: Which is cash. It's just an envelope. Which we were going, like, we weren't going to not forget. It was a friend. It's a friend of ours. And so, we didn't put it in because we didn't have it when we walked in. But I get a text message a few days later. Hey, mate, just wondering. Oh, no. Didn't see. Oh. Didn't see your card in there, just wanted to make sure everything was all right, like it wasn't misplaced or something.

Josh: Isn't that full-on? So it's full-on. Like, do you think that he thought you were being a stingy fuck? Yeah. And were you being a stingy fuck?

Tommy: Absolutely not. No.

Josh: When were you going to tell him? Because I think that Bree and I would all— like, I would have— what you're describing is the worst-case scenario in everyone's head. And so, I feel I could imagine, you know, they say, you know, the bride and groom or, you know, the bride and bridegroom. Do they say, what do they say with same-sex marriage? Is it the groom and groom?

Tommy: Probably. Well, you don't say that.

Josh: You wouldn't say that. The grooms.

Tommy: The brides. Yeah.

Josh: Brides are here. The two people are at the front.

Tommy: I haven't been to one yet. I'm going to a same-sex marriage. Amy's a part of the bridal party. Bode, he's a part of this, you know, he's walking up the aisle. I was asked to be the videographer. That's not happening.

Josh: I mean, that could have been with the camcorders.

Tommy: Well, I'll probably take a camera, but I can't take a full, you know, 10mm lens.

Josh: It's very stressful.

Tommy: But I am going in, I'm excited. It's going to be a fucking party. You and the Easybike.

Josh: No, but when they say, is there any objections or whatever, I would— I feel like I'd put my hand up and say, I didn't put my envelope in the well. Like, I feel like I'd be stressing out.

Tommy: And so, it was such a big wedding. Such a big wedding. And on the night, like, you don't want to—

Josh: Yeah, yeah. You don't want to make it about that. The wishing well's all about like, there's not— You don't need it.

Tommy: You just whack it in. You just throw it in.

Josh: And so, they've got a spreadsheet. Must have. And they're just adding up the cash.

Tommy: It reminds me of my year 7 birthday where I was trying to get enough cash to get a motorised scooter and all I was doing was trying to tip out the money. And then I like, I got so greedy at one point that I went back through my envelopes. And this is how greedy I was. I missed a $50. How? It was in an envelope, but I just didn't shake it.

Josh: I mean, don't you think that— Is there a little bit of an expectation that— Now, I don't know if this is true or not. Do people expect the wedding gift or the cash to be about the cost of the per head. Are you essentially buying a ticket? Seriously.

Tommy: Dude, my best mate gave me $500. Fucking hell. I could not believe that.

Josh: I mean, that's— You could have afforded to send everyone snail mail.

Tommy: It was the most generous thing, but I totally was not expecting a thing from anyone. I think you should.

Josh: I think— You don't expect anything.

Tommy: You can't, like, that's—

Josh: And so, what did you say back to your wishing well, mate?

Tommy: I wished him well. No, I was just—

Josh: Mate, there's some coins at the bottom.

Tommy: Mate, I was like, mate, I'm so sorry we'd forgotten, but I've got it for you. Which it almost came so quickly, the message, that it was like, oh, I don't want to give it. Yeah. Like, almost should be a QR—

Josh: Like, there could be a QR code system. You cheque in, cheque out, maybe put it, apply it.

Tommy: No, I do. I do. So we got all our prezzies for the wedding. We went back to the Grand Hyatt in the city. Counting your cash. Stayed for 2 nights. We did. But the thing is, we opened, read the cards. It was sweet. It was like a nice, it's a nice thing to do after. But you're not, you're a monster if you're like, John, $600. Yeah. Lucy, $200. 25. Tight ass.

Josh: So, what about the thank you?

Tommy: So, you have to say, other than my mate who gave me $500, I was like, holy shit, dude. Love this guy.

Josh: And so, do you love this guy?

Tommy: I was like, did you have to?

Josh: So, I guess the idea is, so, giving your mate the benefit of the doubt, they've got a spreadsheet and they want to send thank yous to everyone.

Tommy: You've got a spreadsheet of the guests.

Josh: Yeah. And so, the thing is, that they just have looked and they're like, oh, we don't have anything for Tommy and Amy.

Tommy: Having experienced it, though, I wouldn't have even known. Like, I can't tell you if there was— Like, I know a few people that might not have given me a present. They might have, though. But I'm not— I cannot hold— Everyone who I invited, I wanted them to be there. Present or no present. Yeah, agreed. It doesn't, like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You're not, it's not, you do earn back a fair bit of the money that you spend on the wedding. Yeah. But you can't expect that. But you're not expecting. It was lovely. We used the cash for our honeymoon. And so, it was very, it was like we got all this cash to be able to then exchange at the airport. It was fucking amazing. But it's, yeah, it's silly. Like, other than a friend of mine put something about Donating the cash to— Buy goat or something. Foundation, which is nice. It's, yeah, I mean, I can't even remember how. I think I just, I ended up giving him the money, the present.

Josh: Just give me your bank details. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, we'd prefer it in cash. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's awkward. You can't afford that.

Tommy: I don't like that sort of thing. And don't judge. Because if someone can't give you a present and they feel like—

Josh: Are you a judgmental guy, do you think?

Tommy: Oh, of course I judge people, but it's— What do you judge people on? What do I judge people on?

Josh: I saw someone comment on social media.

Tommy: In general, like you're judging people every time you're seeing somebody, you're making a judgement based on their character to put them into the situation, make sense of it all. In terms of what my judging on people does to my world, I don't know. I don't— I think there'll be more judgmental people than me that they can get tied into the second half. So, I can judge, but then is it about what is it doing to me? Yeah. This person said that and this and, like, triggering some emotion.

Josh: And I saw a comment on social media. Someone said, You're either early or you're rude. It's pretty like— I like that. But it's— I find it quite stressful. Can't you be on time? Like, yeah, but I felt like that's like, that's someone who's got a real strong opinion on when you arrive somewhere. Yeah.

Tommy: Which they're judging others on how they judge themselves. How do you feel?

Josh: Like, so on the— I was rude this morning. I was rude. I know you were a tiny bit. You're later than usual, but that's fine. Yeah. Um, Bodhi's birthday. Yeah. Uh, throughout the years I know that there's like, uh, there's been times where Conspiracy Jimmy hasn't been able to make it, or people haven't— you've been very good. You even said to me yesterday, you're like, mate, if you can't come, just don't come. But not in an aggressive way, in, in quite a nice—

Tommy: like, I hate you by the throat.

Josh: Do you have like a What does Bodhi care about on his birthday? What is he going to be looking out for?

Tommy: Mate, they sit, they go, they go mad. I reckon we're going to have to take every present and put them into the car. Really? Because a lot of, there's a lot of presents. It actually annoys me a bit.

Josh: I was thinking it could be the time that I get him the gift that I promised him for the new house.

Tommy: That would be good.

Josh: But, and so, no pressure. No pressure. No, but like I think it would be great. But would he play with it there or no? We can't play with it there.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Well, it pisses me off.

Tommy: Well, we can have a session. Yeah.

Josh: We're gonna maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe we almost do something different. Yeah. I mean, is that cool? That's cool.

Tommy: If you can't make it, if you can't make it, um, disappointing though. I mean, it'd be good to, I think it is your mum's birthday also.

Josh: What day do you think? The 13th of Feb.

Tommy: And so, but yeah, we're having his birthday a day before.

Josh: So, Bodhi was born on Valentine's Day. Mum was born on the 13th of Feb. My brother James, born on the 4th or 6th. I'm going to say 4th. Yeah.

Tommy: 6th. Well, it was this week, 9, 8. I think 6th. I think it's the 6th. Well, it's your brother.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. But it's good. You get a big time frame because James lives in North Carolina. Oh, yeah. You get the Australian birthday and then you get the US birthday. And so, I got him on his US birthday. Back it up just in case.

Tommy: Oh, we should see if we can PayPal your brother some money and he then sends us some chewies from his local. Oh, that's a good idea. Because he's in America. He's American now. I'm sure if he just went to the BP or the servo or whatever they call it. What do they call it? The truck stop? I don't know. Truck stop. Just go to the local bodega. That's America. That's New York, isn't it? But he could send us some chewies, random chewies with a few sort of, you know, this is my favourite.

Josh: P.O. Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. If you've got an interesting chewie anywhere around the world, we will eat it. We will chew it on Chewie Tuesdays.

Tommy: It has to be fully packeted. So, like closed, enclosed, sealed. None of this funky shit. Yeah. Don't take us down.

Josh: Because I feel like that would be a good way of Um, killing someone. Imagine putting— because you like a slow— it's like, oh, my face is feeling numb. I love the cinnamon though. Boom, you're dead. Boom. Yeah. Um, spies, PIs. Yeah.

Tommy: Uh, well, I saw two the other day, remember, at Woolworths.

Josh: Oh, that's right, you did.

Tommy: Kind of. Yeah, private investigator. Nah, they're just Undercovers.

Josh: No, I think that, I think that there's definitely, if we weren't doing what we were doing, I think as a business we could actually pivot to being a private.

Tommy: I think all of us would do very well. Nosy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. But even just think about like, um, uh, what are they called, uh, the, uh, in the US they do it a lot, it's like the wolf guy.

Tommy: The wolf guy, as in with the bounty hunter? Yes. Which is different, different game. And you've got to be tough for that. Or just good on social media, good at tracking people down. So, Logan Paul did a video where he went with these bounty hunters to apprehend these people full on. These people are like ex-military. But so, the— It's a more obvious pivot for a guy who's been in the Navy and has been a Navy SEAL to then become a bounty hunter.

Josh: In saying that, so, I watched— You fell asleep during it. We weren't watching it together. What a weird... No, Don't Fuck With Cats.

Tommy: Don't Fuck With Cats. Yes, I did. I fell asleep, I think, into the second one and I got the joke. It was actually fucking no joke. Yeah. Yeah. But then Amy watched all of it. Yeah.

Josh: Very, very good. And a great storey of nerds being very good at what they do. So, you basically had, you know, cops trying to work out this murder stuff and there's just, you know, Cheryl on Facebook in Vegas just finding out all the info. That's not even a joke.

Tommy: It was, I think, Cheryl. Yeah, she was amazing. Yeah. Oh, it's very hard to get away with anything these days, which is kind of good.

Josh: It's great. Don't do bad shit.

Tommy: Don't do bad shit. Yeah. Anyway, so what we're saying is don't fucking send us nasty chewies because— Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: We'll track you. Cheryl is on the payroll.

Tommy: Yeah. She's in Vegas.

Josh: She'll get here. I wonder what it's like to live in Vegas, just on another thought, but we don't have to go.

Tommy: I have thought that if you've been to Vegas and you fly in, so there's like the Strip, which is all lights and camera and action. Probably not in Hollywood, but it's more lights and cha-ching money and yeah, all bit weird. And then there's suburban Vegas, Las Vegas. And so It's super interesting that there is—

Josh: And there's a bunch of it, like with the whole exodus of California, everyone's leaving LA or whatever. That little guy that's a real estate agent. Do you know about this guy? No, I don't know. What's he done? So, he's— He looks like he's 12, but he's like, he's our age and he— But he does real estate. Yeah. Yeah. But he does real estate. And he was on Selling Sunset. He works for that company, but he's not in the show. He's just like, you'll see him just sitting around when they're arguing or whatever. But he has a YouTube channel making millions of dollars talking about real estate and how to make money. And he's just moved to Vegas. He swears by, he thinks Vegas is the best. It's like, don't have to pay for parking. But I don't know if that's like this, that should be your standard. There's a lot of places you don't have to pay for parking, you know. No, I know.

Tommy: But I mean, you don't say that about New York. It's like Vegas is the desert with— It is a bizarre thing. I mean, Los Angeles is a desert, was a desert.

Josh: Yeah. Guess it still is.

Tommy: Still is. But it's, I mean, you've got— But all the things— Greenery on the highways as you're driving along, watering the fucking side of the road.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's— It would be interesting to live in a random place like that.

Josh: But that's what I've spoke— I always mention this and You always pull me up on it around living somewhere rural, like regional, like just like some fucking random, like on a farm or a ranch or—

Tommy: Farm's different to Vegas. Vegas you can get a taste of going out.

Josh: You can prostitute within 5 minutes from anywhere. That's true.

Tommy: But you can get, you could go to Paris in Vegas. They've got the Eiffel Tower there. The Bellagio. Or you could go on a walk in some sort of canyon or you go to the Grand Canyon.

Josh: Well, so there's some interest. How about this? In places like Colorado, beautiful, very sort of some of it regional, you know, like there's not much going on, but you can get really, really, really, really good internet. And the reason is, is because Apple, Google, they've all set up Amazon, they've all set up data centres in these places where they can get heaps of real estate and they just aircon it. It's dry weather. And because they've got the fibre all the way there, you can tap into it.

Tommy: It's very cool. You're getting 3G in Daylesford. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's probably a bit more, but the further you go out, centre of Australia, there's fucking We should— I think in Queensland there's satellite internet, which is dog shit. Yeah.

Josh: Unless you've got the new Sky, you know what old mate's doing.

Tommy: Like an actual satellite shooting down at your—

Josh: That's what satellite is.

Tommy: Yeah. Is it not beaming? I know it's satellite at some point, but like it's beaming to it. How's it so shit then?

Josh: Well, you have like latency and stuff, but I think that the— So, Elon's doing like they've changed where the satellites are or there's going to be more of them.

Tommy: Yeah. So, it's— Blows my mind. Yeah. Anyway. Anyway. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

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Tommy: This chewy, you can actually crunch bits of sugar, like small bits.

Josh: Can't be good for your teeth.

Tommy: It's no good.

Josh: Alright. Enjoy your day, guys. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one. See you guys.