Discovering Old Mail

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.

Josh: That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

Tommy: Hi guys! Hi guys!

Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

Tommy: It is outrageous.

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 946.

Tommy: What is happening? What is going on, Gronks? Happy Hump Day. Oh, Joshy boy.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: I've just discovered something.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: GB, I know you're listening upstairs from the studio. Please come down. I know you just sat down, Josh, but you're going to have to get up because I just discovered something coming back in. I'm just a bit of a nosy pig and I've— So when you walk into the entrance of our office on the right-hand side, there is like an electrical box which never gets open. I've opened that, I reckon, twice in the 2 years that we've had this office. Second time being 5 minutes ago.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I need you to go open it now for the third time out of us.

Josh: Just go. Jumpy guy. Are you gonna stay? Okay.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm— GB is gonna— yeah, GB's following him down, so we've got it all on video if you're wanting to watch on. Yeah, then you're gonna come back up if you're watching on YouTube. Will be all there. But there's been a massive groan move by a, um, a very old business, one that is known by many, used by many here in Australia. And, uh, their name is Australia Post. It's very disappointing. I'll let Josh explain what is going on, but this is great. He's going to be furious. He's going to be absolutely furious. Big boy's walking back up the stairs now. He's coming. I can hear him.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Oh, I might have been wrong. No, I was right. It is Australia Post. Josh, sit down. What's going on?

Josh: So, it's very dusty.

Tommy: Yeah, because that cab, that electrical cabinet is like, it doesn't need to be open. Yeah, there's no need for it to be opened.

Josh: So, I got a It says, uh, Jay Jansen, 8 Ferguson Street, Abbotsford, uh, the 20— Oh, so it's not that long. Oh, no, it was. It's a year. It's nearly a year. The 24th of the 2nd, 2020.

Tommy: So, you found hidden treasure. What is it? Explain, because I've just sort of—

Josh: So, it's a satchel. Yeah. And I think it's a return. It's been returned. So, we have We've sent something to someone.

Tommy: Okay, hang on. I need a— Is it Australia Post?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Okay. Because I just said that we've— It was a gronk move by a big Australian business that's been around for many years. Okay.

Josh: So, do you want me to open it?

Tommy: I want you to open it on camera.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: So, it's a parcel.

Josh: So, it says, the weirdness is that I don't quite understand. It looks like it says and something like it's got the Daily Talk Show Oh, this is from a gronk or something because this isn't like an official— this isn't us doing it. This is like— look at that.

Tommy: Oh no, is that us?

Josh: No.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Oh, maybe it is.

Tommy: Because we— okay, quickly. All right, here we go. So the mailman has put the parcel because we weren't here into the electrical box. That's so annoying. It's so annoying. And it's a year old.

Josh: That's very dusty.

Tommy: Is it spiders? No, I'm joking.

Josh: Oh, you know, let's show who—

Tommy: what's happened? What?

Josh: Oh, hey Andrew, so this is a copy of Steal Like an Artist. Uh, hey Andrew, so this is Mr. 97's writing. Andrew, uh, we owe you some stickers. The video you sent in was epic. Thanks for being an awesome supporter of the show. We still can't believe you're smashing through the back catalog. Amazing effort listening to a few early day Gronks. Thanks for all the— Is this for Bearded Fan in South Africa?

Tommy: Ah, you're totally right. I think it has been sent back to us domestic, like we've paid and it's come straight back to us. Ah, Mail Time. It's your own mail.

Josh: What a segment.

Tommy: I mean, you were hoping for something more than our own their own stuff. But what about that thing? It says it's a, uh, you haven't— you've got a piece of mail at the letterbox.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So is that at your mailbox or someone else's?

Josh: So my guess is Victoria Street, Richmond, or PO. Surely maybe this is the, the mail and then they just gave up and sent it.

Tommy: Dude, it's crazy that they just leave mail in shit like that.

Josh: Do you know where— what I thought it was going to be? I thought you'd found a heap of cash. Seriously, I was expecting like wads of cash.

Tommy: Well, mate, that could have been a lot better than it was, isn't it?

Josh: But it was, that was still very exciting. Real dusty. The, um—

Tommy: There'll be a great video from GB who was—

Josh: Lost mail. Have you ever had anything like lost in the mail?

Tommy: No, but I will say that my mum purchased incense and she gifted incense. My mum's been gifting incense for 35 years. Not new incense. This is the incense she bought 35 years ago. She even told us about it. She purchased it.

Josh: She brought some into the office. We had it in the office.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We lit it and, you know, stunk out the joint.

Josh: I liked the smell.

Tommy: It is nice. Quite smoky incense is. Has its own, you know, flavour to it. Yeah. Anyway, Mum bought it many years before she got it and she'd thought, nah, it's done. She must have sent a cash or a cheque or something. And she had it all my childhood. But yeah, it just came years later, like many years later. Like, that's slow. But they fulfilled the order. My mum's also been making some purchases according to my father. Happy birthday, Tim Jackett, by the way.

Josh: Happy birthday, Timbo.

Tommy: You're only 69 months, mate. I don't get it.

Josh: I don't know.

Tommy: He's 69 today. It's a good classic number, you know. One for a giggle. Um, but God, he's in good nick, Timbo. Yeah, he's in real good nick.

Josh: What do you give someone that turns 69?

Tommy: Don't know.

Josh: Um, but it involves incense.

Tommy: Yes, a phone call, which I did. I called my mum this morning and I said, um, I said, it's Dad's birthday today, right? Which is my way of saying I've forgotten. And is it his birthday?

Josh: I mean, January 27th, I knew that.

Tommy: Well, it's after— I knew it wasn't Australia Day. It's the day after. So, I was like, 27th. Anyway, Mum had got a shock because she's like, oh God, I haven't said it.

Josh: Oh, really?

Tommy: And she was trying to say, she was telling Dad, it's your birthday tomorrow. Like, she knows. Yeah. But then in the morning, after reminding him on the day before. Anyway.

Josh: The carob cake wasn't ready.

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: The—

Tommy: I was going to say something. Feral, but I'm not. So, Mum, sorry if you're listening. Dad told me yesterday when we were putting, we were doing some flat pack.

Josh: Good job on the shelves and chairs. Good job on the chairs.

Tommy: Yep. And Dad told me that Mum has made a purchase online. And it went, it like kind of, I couldn't believe it when he said it. He's like, yeah, Mum, you know, she got the, I knew they'd sort of cancelled a credit card or something. She's like, yeah, yeah, you know, Joanne made a purchase, got some CBD. It's got these gummies. And I was like, what? Mum, hang on, wait, Mum got gummies?

Josh: Oh, this is great.

Tommy: And yeah, yeah, Mum got some CBD gummies. And hang on, wait, so like CBD gummies? Dad has no idea what it is.

Josh: Yeah, he thinks Central Business District gummies.

Tommy: Yeah, promotional material could have been left in the, you know, the electrical box of the Eureka Tower, a little gummy. And so, I don't know what's happened, but Mum has bought these CBD gummies off an ad pushed to her that Olivia Newton-John was—

Josh: Oh, no. This is like my— Remember my Testostrong and Garcinia Cambogia? I spent about $200 on her— Not herbs, what are they called?

Tommy: Like supplements, because I read an article on men's health Now, did you get the gummy? Sorry, did you get this?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So, it's not a scam, but it's this kind of like wrapped up in a whole bunch of bullshit. Like Olivia Newton-John isn't flogging and being the face of CBD.

Josh: Is CBD even allowed? Or is it just the THC that's the problem?

Tommy: Well, THC is illegal, is it?

Josh: CBD?

Tommy: Well, I think there is some weed.

Josh: You can get gummies. You can get CBD gummies in Australia, is that what you're saying?

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. I think you can, or there's some loophole around it because I have seen some mates flogging some CBD.

Josh: Oh, okay.

Tommy: And you can get weed, like you, if you, there's some places you can get a prescription for it. Very hard process.

Josh: Spray it on your feet. I hear CBD spray that's become big in Hollywood if you like wearing high heels.

Tommy: Oh, yeah.

Josh: And you feel that your heels gets sore, just a couple of sprays of CBD will help sort it out.

Tommy: Well, so Mum's got these, and then I think Dad's, you know, put the fear of God into her thinking, ah, we're going to be robbed, like our credit cards are going to be robbed. And so they cancelled a card, the transaction went through, Mum got a phone call from the company.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: It's gone through, they're coming. A phone call telling her how to use them and what to do. And so, it's maybe it is a legit company, but mum's freaked out. Dad's freaked out that they're going to have their credit card taken.

Josh: Sort of weird that they call, don't you think?

Tommy: Like, that sounds like—

Josh: Have you ever—

Tommy: That's a good small business.

Josh: Have you ever had an e-com place call you?

Tommy: A follow-up?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I cannot remember anyone. Like, it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen.

Josh: So, was this idea for her to help her go to sleep?

Tommy: I don't know. I tried to call her before. I want to know about why she's wanting to get into CBD.

Josh: She's high.

Tommy: She's very, you know, she's progressive, yogi. So yeah, she could have some. I mean, if she doesn't want them, I'll have them. I'll try them. I heard they're quite relaxing.

Josh: I got new socks. Been talking about them a bit.

Tommy: Yeah, mate, I got new socks. You just don't hear me talking about them.

Josh: No, it's a big deal. Like, this is a big deal for me. Um, very hard to— I'm a fucking wanker, but they're very hard to get.

Tommy: Uh, you used a credit card and they came in the mail. That seems pretty fucking easy. That seems like modern-day e-commerce.

Josh: No, it took a little bit longer, all that sort of thing. You had to go through a certain— like, I had to go through a certain store because you couldn't get them direct. Hang on, hang on.

Tommy: Is my mum sending a— sending physical cash to India and waiting 3 years what's harder?

Josh: That's harder. The— No, but just want to say how great they are.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: They're called Darn Tough Vermont.

Tommy: So they're out of the USA. Vermont, USA.

Josh: Do you want to hear what the tagline is?

Tommy: Is Vermont the state?

Josh: Should know. Don't know. I think so. Vermont. Sounds like it. The tagline is sheep have been running in wool for 10,000 years.

Tommy: So, we killed them, made them into socks, and now you can run. Yeah.

Josh: Well, because, you know, my obsession of merino wool clothes.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, travelling Europe, I just wore the merino wool stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it works well. Like, you walked up the stairs today and I saw you in barefoot, bare feet, and I was like, I just looked down at you and then I looked up and you answered.

Josh: You said, I've got new socks. Yeah. Because the thing was that I've been doing the long— It takes me about 50 minutes to get to work now. I need to dial in when I leave. It's very annoying. I've been getting in at 12. But the— Yeah, that amount of walking, you've got to make sure you have your feet dialled in. And I had like just a sharp end on my little toe, which was creating some friction and some blood knots, I think. So, I actually, I took my socks off, cleaned myself up. Chucked out the old socks and put on some darn tough Vermont. And so, the other cool thing about it is it's guaranteed for life.

Tommy: The socks are?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: To last for life. Yeah.

Josh: So, you can send them back in and they'll send you brand new ones in the same colour.

Tommy: Is it as hard to get back to them as it is to get them?

Josh: So, my plan is, I don't know if you've ever had friends like this. So, my mate Naysan, who grew up in Papua New Guinea, He was born in the US and he would go to the US maybe once every couple of years. And when he would go, he would do the big shop. He would go. It's like, you know, when you go to Thailand or something and you get all your tailored suits and, you know, whatever you're into.

Tommy: Is that what— Do you reckon that still happens?

Josh: Yeah, I could imagine Jess going to Southeast Asia and getting some leather jackets. Yeah. Don't you think?

Tommy: Yeah, but I think there'd probably be— I could— No, I reckon Jess would be Italy getting the leather jacket from a market in Italy.

Josh: I can imagine Bali. I can imagine. It's annoying because you don't want to be wearing a leather jacket in Bali. It's just too hot. But, um, uh, so anyway, my thinking is, so Naysan with P&G, he would go buy heaps of stuff. He would go to this place called Marshalls, which I've taken you to, and you thought it was like, it's one of those places where at the time it seemed really good, and I thought you would get excited. And it's just like brand, not like good brand, like Michael Kors. That's like the one that's like you can always get wallets and stuff. But you can get like Calvin Klein undies and—

Tommy: Yeah, it's good brands, but it's just like really long row aisles of clothes racks.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: And you have to almost sort yourself, sort it out yourself.

Josh: Yes. And so, there was a certain type of underwear that Bri would wear that was— It was a Jessica Simpson's range underwear that she really liked. And so, every time we'd go to the US, I would buy up big. Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so, she had them. I feel like this could be a similar thing where every 2 years, so I got 6 pairs, every 2 years go to the US. And so, then I'm internally within the country and it's easier from this end.

Tommy: Is it taking the piss, though? Like, are you only meant to send them back if they are broken or—

Josh: No. The thing is that they will wear out over time.

Tommy: So, how much did you pay for these?

Josh: They're about $20 a sock, like a pair.

Tommy: How have they got a business?

Josh: You wonder. There's got to be enough people that just don't return them.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Well, I bought a pair of socks just on SockChat. Yeah. I reckon early days of Amy and my relationship, we were at a General Pants and I bought some ankle socks.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I've been furious over the years about the ankle socks. Different brands, Bonds have never come through. They always shrink and then they fall off the back of your heel.

Josh: Yeah. Oh, this is a perfect length, by the way, that I've got.

Tommy: I saw that.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: But I have got a pair of General Pants.

Josh: You still have them?

Tommy: No, just bought new ones at Christmas time. And dude, the best.

Josh: The The little things.

Tommy: The little things. They were a 3-pack, it was like $20.

Josh: I was a Happy Socks guy for a while. Yeah, but they, um, they just don't have the, you know, the, the qualities of merino wool.

Tommy: They're long too, aren't they?

Josh: The Happy Socks? Yeah, really long. And they, they don't necessarily go with runners.

Tommy: No, but nor do jeans sometimes, but you don't care.

Josh: No, no, I don't care, man. I haven't worn jeans in Since ISO.

Tommy: Well, you can't fit into jeans. Getting commuting to work.

Josh: Commuting. Can you walk? Commuting is, I think, that's moving, is it? I always thought when I thought commuting, hi@thedailytalkshow.com, would love some clarity around it. By the way, we don't have a laptop in front of us. Wayne Peters, thank you. He found out about FDI.

Tommy: It actually originated in France and it's a French sort of abbreviation, which is from Tuesday's episode.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Yes. Should we just say yesterday? Yesterday.

Josh: What was I saying?

Tommy: Commuting. You don't know if commuting.

Josh: Yeah. If it's a public— When I think of commuting, I think of public transport.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. Yeah. But it can't just be the commute is moving from one area to another. I'm commuting over to somewhere by some means. But there's a real problem. With you needing to commute. Actually, no, you just need to be organised. And that's where I'm worried that if you actually have some shit on where you need to be wearing proper clothes, the commute with a 50-minute walk creates a certain type of man.

Josh: Well, I was thinking about just bringing in some extra clothes and changing.

Tommy: Yeah, that's fine. That's a good idea.

Josh: I mean, do I need to change my undies after a 50-minute walk?

Tommy: Have you shat yourself?

Josh: No. I don't know. Then no. So what's the purpose? You walk off.

Tommy: You walk around New York City all day. There's— I think there's a difference if you were— so what is— came out of— you came out of a CrossFit session completely drenched.

Josh: How many undies do you go through a week?

Tommy: Um, a pair a day. And if I'm— it depends if I was— um, yeah, pair a day on average, which is 7, but I would throw— I would say 10. I'd say 10.

Josh: 2 spares. Well, 3 pairs.

Tommy: Chance of shitting yourself. No, but if you say, for instance, I go to the pool and I've got my shorts on, but I've got my undies underneath my shorts. I wear them into the pool, I then change, put new undies on. So that's a day where I've gone through 2 pairs. Yeah, um, 2 pairs of— 2. Yeah, yeah. What are you?

Josh: Uh, no, I'm 1. I'm 1.

Tommy: 1 a week?

Josh: Yeah, no, no, 1 a day. But I think the, the consideration is Um, when you're saying, oh, it's a certain type of man that walks in or whatever, but it just seems—

Tommy: I just mean like a real sweaty bum.

Josh: Yeah. And so the question is, but if we've learned anything, what's between your bum and the seat?

Tommy: Um, fabric. And that fabric is underwear and then another layer.

Josh: So why don't you see the hypocrisy in, oh, I'm fine with undies, the one that's the closest thing to your bum, But shorts, are they disgusting? Like, wouldn't you actually fix the root of the problem? Well, which is cleaning your bum.

Tommy: Well, you need the layer there. I think it's like, it's the outside layers for the other people, and sometimes you can live in your own stench, you know, like you can.

Josh: I can't. I actually can't. It pisses me off if I'm in a bad mood. I haven't done shower yet. You not like that?

Tommy: I know the feeling if you're sort of a bit sweaty all over and then, which is probably why I wouldn't do something like a walk into work where I will be in that potential.

Josh: You wouldn't even walk to the PO box?

Tommy: Oh, it's a lot of, you know, wasting of time on workouts.

Josh: I meant on Friday.

Tommy: Oh no, that was fucking Friday afternoon. Last week.

Josh: We had Glen.

Tommy: It was 37 degrees and we walked. Admittedly, it was fine, but I was just going out that night for dinner and I didn't want my back sweat to activate.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: And so I like, you could see I kept on like putting my hand up my back and just sort of like flapping my t-shirt to cool down my back a lot. Yeah. And I just didn't need that in my life. You know, you don't need that.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like I'm not as sweaty, but I am with the everyday carry.

Tommy: What, a backpack?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Were you sweating onto your back?

Josh: Yes. Through your backpack.

Tommy: And so that's the problem.

Josh: We can't do anything.

Tommy: But you wear black.

Josh: Yeah. So you can't really see it. But if someone was to hug you or something after having a sweaty back, it's an issue. Yeah. The cups.

Tommy: The caps are coming.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: That's a cup clap.

Josh: These things are massive. Um, and so I'm very excited. I think, um, from a price point perspective—

Tommy: no, I don't say yet. We, we need— it's still— we've got to see who's coming. This is the problem. You put out some price point of how much a cup from big cup company is, you then don't—

Josh: not making money.

Tommy: Well, it's not about— it's not about making money, it's about covering costs. Because if you only have a few people taking—

Josh: because that's what happened, your saying that because we had issues with the hoodies.

Tommy: Well, I mean, we've— look at the mailing. We've mailed something, it's come straight back to us, and it's got stuff in it that was meant to get to somebody. Some hoodie stuff, Mr. 97 may have miscounted. And then there was some, you know, like, it was just all a part of learning with a small loss. Maybe a reprint as well, where the reprint was a lot more expensive than the original round, which we kind of got it in. It's all learning. It all comes out the wash. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. And so the big cup company, the cups, they should be here within the next 3 weeks.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: And so, and we're getting 100 and they're coming to the office.

Tommy: Great. Did you get them to the PO box or the office?

Josh: Good question.

Tommy: Because I'm going to be checking our electrical box.

Josh: Yeah. I think I actually got it to the PO box. I just like consolidating everything there, not having to worry, is it going to Is it, you know, going to come one way or not there?

Tommy: Can I say there is a type of person that has a PO box?

Josh: Yes. Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: And you're that guy.

Josh: Yeah. Bit nomadic.

Tommy: Not really.

Josh: Just moves a lot. No.

Tommy: You go on— You've been on nice holidays. It's not— A nomadic guy is someone who just—

Josh: You don't think I'm nomadic? No. You don't think I'm nomadic?

Tommy: Not at all.

Josh: I walk 15 minutes to home.

Tommy: What is— What's the meaning of nomadic?

Josh: Just someone that travels. Yeah. Doesn't really have one place that they live.

Tommy: Which I think—

Josh: I've moved. You've probably moved.

Tommy: You've had leases. I think a nomadic person wouldn't have had his name, her name on a lease in the last 5 years. Like, really, you're closing. You're like, mate, I could leave tonight at midnight and no one would be coming home.

Josh: Does that appeal to you? Ash Williams, nomadic.

Tommy: Um, gypsy. Yeah, more gypsy. I don't think— I think, um, avoiding responsibility. No, but so yeah, the nomadic thing, I, I don't— there is extreme reward in, um, what's the word, not responsibility, but taking, um, ownership, or like, I guess it is responsibility, having something you have to look after, like a kid. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of reward in that discipline, all these things. And so I see the appeal of wanting to not have or be tied down.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And how that could make you feel like, mate, you know, I could, I could just get up tomorrow and move to Adelaide.

Josh: That's where you're going.

Tommy: Yeah, because I'm a nomadic guy. No, but I, I see that Adelaide business. Yeah, I see the appeal, but I also am telling myself the storey of a guy who has responsibility and commitment. That's the word, commitment. So, not willing to commit to things or, you know, like even the having a lease that's your own can bring, it depends on what time in your life it is, extreme sort of joy that you can fulfil something and accomplish. But I guess it's like the other way. If you, if you have been someone with extreme responsibility and you go the other way, it can be because you've gone that the other way and it didn't work out. And so you're like, I actually want less. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. I like that.

Josh: Uh, outside our place was an RV the other day. I said to Bree, I could be an RV guy.

Tommy: Dude, I could be an RV.

Josh: She said absolutely not. She said, you know, an RV is just a caravan. I was like, okay, when you say it like that. I'm not a caravan guy, but I am an RV guy for some reason. Just having the driving component attached, I'm more comfortable with. Maybe it's quicker moving. Like there's something about, yeah, the caravan.

Tommy: Dude, I totally see you as an RV guy. Amy and I have got like the tortures of RV life.

Josh: Oh, great.

Tommy: We once went to this It was Double Bay. Double bay, double pay in Sydney. That's what they say because it's expensive. It's like the Toorak by the water. A double bay, double pay. Everything's expensive. But they closed off the streets and had an RV show. It was sick. We got to go into these RVs. Some of them had washing machines, plasmas, like—

Josh: Cup holders.

Tommy: Lots of cup holders, big chairs. Like, I could imagine you getting around owning an RV and checking it out, checking it out. But then at the campground, you don't like— you don't like people if they're talking to you about what they do. But if you could show them your fucking RV. But I could imagine that. And everyone—

Josh: Imagine the security that I'd have on it, dude. You get close to it, fucking alarm goes off. Yeah, I would have like some form of protective spray. Yeah. So if someone came close to it, like sprinkler system would go off.

Tommy: This is where we need someone to pull something up, but I think it's great to look at RV ads. So, people who have bought the $150,000 one.

Josh: Well, the one I was looking at was $200,000.

Tommy: Well, they've bought it for $200,000, selling for $150,000. And then people's reasons, like they give— I mean, I found she was reading some out to me in bed. When was this? Literally a week ago.

Josh: Oh, really?

Tommy: That was when I was looking.

Josh: Literally. Do you reckon we saw the same RV? It was in Collingwood. We probably saw the same RV, had the exact same idea.

Tommy: So, you can look online and there's some nice storeys that come along with them, like—

Josh: Toilets?

Tommy: Yeah, some of them have toilets, showers, everything. And my point is that there's some sort of some nice reading, even if you're not going to buy one, just in hearing their story, you know, took it around the country, had great dreams, you know, like, didn't use it as much. There's some real sort of sad stories, just sad that they don't use it anymore. Kids have grown up, you know, they're not wanting to come away anymore. Like shit like that. It's— Some good reading and well out of our price point.

Josh: Would be nice, though.

Tommy: It would be nice. I mean, I'd like to take the show in an RV.

Josh: The caravan. So, caravans don't bother me. What bothers me is the community of the caravan park.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, if I could just stay anywhere. That's what I found surprising with camping. I haven't been camping properly. Would love to.

Tommy: We'll go team camping.

Josh: Remember we were going to ask Rob Ward to take us camping? Yeah.

Tommy: He's pretty solid. Yeah. It's going to be comfy, you know. Stuff to do.

Josh: But yeah, I think that it's like the thing with camping, it's just you are, it's not this sense that you're out in the middle of nowhere and no one's around. You're just sleeping outside with other people.

Tommy: Yeah, I know what you mean. Campgrounds specifically, you get that vibe when you're driving along the peninsula. And you see like coming through Rye and there's the families that their thing every year around Christmas is or Easter or any school holidays is to get a lot on the foreshore, like, you know, in the caravan park area and go to town, tent city.

Josh: Yeah, it's like Rosebud. It's in Rosebud. Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah. There's a bunch. There's all— they're all along there. I mean, for me, I know what you mean. It's like You're just going into a tent community at that point.

Josh: Real vibe. Like, there would be, I would say, the drama, bitching, people being too loud.

Tommy: Kevin got a bit fucking lit last night. Definitely.

Josh: Don't you think?

Tommy: You know, he yelled at Sandra. Yeah, she was pissed.

Josh: Would you, uh, do you have any interest in Burning Man?

Tommy: Oh yeah, I'd love to go to that. It's, um, let's go, mate. I don't know if these things will be on again. Actually, America, give it a year. You'll be back in the desert.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: COVID testing. You know, if the COVID doesn't get you, the drugs that you're taking.

Josh: It's very dusty as well.

Tommy: Yeah. The dust and dust storm, the illicit substance, you know, or COVID will get you at those events. I'd like to go, but no, I do see the appeal as a family more and more of like parks, like Big Four parks and places where kids can run wild while the parents just chill. Like, I really see trampolines. I really see the appeal as, as the, you know, like the new babies.

Josh: Carambula.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, all these places. But it is, I'd like to take the team, um, that would be nice.

Josh: In your new RV.

Tommy: In my own fucking van.

Josh: Maybe we can get Shane Jacobson to lend us his bus.

Tommy: Does it have beds in it? Yeah, like a full tour bus.

Josh: I think One Direction may have.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: He had huge, like, so Shane had a— they did a bus. They bought a bus and did a fit out for a show. What was the show?

Tommy: The Man Show?

Josh: Was it?

Tommy: The Man—

Josh: Man Up? Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Man Up.

Josh: Man Up.

Tommy: What was it about, like?

Josh: Yeah, there was some sort of— there was a show that he worked on and they fitted it out with heaps of TVs and all that sort of thing. And he got to—

Tommy: Sounds like the Man Show.

Josh: Yeah. And he got to keep it.

Tommy: Did he?

Josh: And so, Hamish and Andy used it as well.

Tommy: Really? But it is the tour buses and the like, seeing the beds in the little areas.

Josh: 6 screens or something like 6 plasmas.

Tommy: I'm more impressed by a bed in a bus than a screen.

Josh: Okay, well, there's your priorities.

Tommy: Do you remember in high school or primary school, you'd go on an excursion? I know this is private school. No, but no, there was toilets on the buses that we'd have. Never allowed to use them. Even in primary school, I reckon there was like, it was like absolutely no one touching the toilet.

Josh: We had Granger's buses, which were hot leather seats with no aircon, taking us to Doveton Pools. Yeah, a bit of a different life.

Tommy: Maybe we, I mean, yeah, maybe I just had much different.

Josh: What sort of excursions would you go to?

Tommy: Oh, Hillsville Sanctuary. Cut, fuck, I can't even remember. Oh, it was more school camps that I was thinking, like Chum Creek, uh, down Portland.

Josh: I was thinking it would be fun to do a school camp nowadays. Oh yeah, like, I wonder what it costs to rent one out. No interest, but just like all of us, like, I could imagine you being a top dog on the Flying Fox.

Tommy: So Craig Harper puts on an event yearly used to before COVID in Mount Eliza. There's a holiday park.

Josh: Oh, great.

Tommy: And it's got like a fire and, you know, this little fire pit area, tennis courts, and maybe, I don't know, but there's like a communal area where you have cereal. And maybe I went there for grade 4 or 5 camp, really. And then I was back there with Harps filming him doing, you know.

Josh: Do they still have a photo of you? Like, do not let this kid in. I can imagine.

Tommy: I walked up and I just was like, oh my God, I remember this. I remember going down to the beach and we all saw a syringe on the beach and there was like this big thing. I think the teacher buried it.

Josh: Really? Did it still smell of Lynx Africa in the rooms from the kids? Yeah. Because remember, that was it. Like, you just— there's so much Lynx. Always a kid with a lighter spraying it. That would have been you.

Tommy: Definitely. Not that young though. That was That, you know, that would have been real problem if I was doing that at that age. Grade 4 or something.

Josh: Well, yeah, grade— I remember grade 3, I went early because, um, grade— they couldn't get enough grade 4 students to go to camp, so they let some of the grade 3 kids go.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: And I was one of them. Yeah, I packed some tennis balls and a dress and did, um, Stop Right Now by the Spice Girls at Red Faces.

Tommy: God, I'm just having flashbacks of school camps. One I went to grade 5.

Josh: Did you ever kiss anyone on school camp?

Tommy: Uh, yes. Chum Creek.

Josh: Who was it?

Tommy: Um, I'm not gonna say no. Okay. I'm gonna say, you know, have respect for that grade 7.

Josh: I mean, you were great.

Tommy: You were grade 7. Yeah, I was great. She was 35 years my teacher. No, it wasn't. Anyway, um, good gear. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. I was hoping this parcel that we got could have been something else.

Josh: That's all right. Yeah. But anyway, if you want to send us something, yeah, PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I didn't think you would get the postcode.

Tommy: No, I get it. I say 3067, which is annoying.

Josh: It's the way you say your phone numbers.

Tommy: O-410. No, I don't. No, that's a monster's way. O-401. And then do you say the other 3?

Josh: Other 3. Yeah, that's right.

Tommy: Although my mum's, I say 0-4-1-2-9, and then I say the right, like, yeah, I say a different sort of sequence, but it's just how I remember it. It's just like the 30-67.

Josh: Yeah, anyway, man, caller ID, I remember that in landlines. That was a good— when I got that, felt like a fucking detective. Seriously, a lot of things happened when I got caller ID.

Tommy: So you're screening, not them?

Josh: Yeah, no, remember I told you about how Rob called me. Rob who? Rob Curran. It doesn't matter. He's this kid that I went to school with. He called me and said, what do you think of Lachlan?

Tommy: Could have been Rob Ward.

Josh: Yeah, no. So yeah, Rob Curran called me.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: He said, what do you think of Lachlan? And I saw that it was fucking Lachlan's number, 9700111. But I saw the fucking number. I was like, that's— he's at fucking Lachlan's house. So I hung up. And then they called back and I said, um, my mum actually answered and she said, if you want to be Josh's friend, be his friend, otherwise stop calling.

Tommy: They never called back. That was the end of that friendship. Thanks, Mum.

Josh: Wonder what Rob's up to. All right, uh, it's a daily talk show. Have a good one, guys. We'll see you tomorrow.

Tommy: See you guys.