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Episode 93032:54

Don't Wait Until January 1

We chat about Grammys and award nights, Jess' Christmas present, drunk dreams, TJ's month without coffee, and we touch on our New Year's Resolutions.

Show Notes

00:00Grammys & Awards
08:05Opening Jess' Christmas present
14:07Drunk dreams
20:28A month without coffee
21:15New Year's Resolutions

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –The hosts argue award shows (Grammys, ARIAs, Australian Podcast Awards) are inherently political/networking-based rather than pure meritocracies.
  • –Jess Lucas gave the Big Media Company team a Christmas gift: $100 cash and an 'Adventure Challenge Friends Edition' scratch-off activity book.
  • –Alcohol disrupts REM sleep, which can produce unusually vivid or lucid dreams/nightmares, which Tommy experienced after a night out and mistook for real events.
  • –Tommy and Josh are both starting new health routines in December (spin bike with leaderboard/iFit, AllTrails hiking) rather than waiting for January 1 resolutions.
  • –Josh's framing for the year is picking a single guiding word to encapsulate work, family and health intentions, a practice inspired by Jason Fox.

Questions this episode answers

Why was Justin Bieber upset about his Grammy nominations?

Bieber complained that the Recording Academy classified his album 'Changes' as pop (nominating him for Best Pop Vocal Album, Best Pop Solo/Duo Performance, and a country duo category) when he intended it as an R&B album, and he vented his dissatisfaction on Instagram.

Why might alcohol cause vivid or unsettling dreams?

According to a fact the hosts read from sciencefocus.com, alcohol disrupts sleep cycles and interferes with REM sleep, the stage associated with vivid dreams and nightmares, which can make dreams feel unusually intense or lucid.

What is the hosts' advice about starting New Year resolutions?

Josh argues there's power in not waiting until January 1 to start a new habit or goal—starting in early December (as he did with coffee limits and cycling) builds momentum ahead of the new year rather than starting depleted after holiday indulgence.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:03

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 930. She's fumbling over my words there. How are you?

0:09

Josh: Happy Tuesday, mate. Happy, uh, first day of December, first day of summer. Welcome here to the day. I don't know what I'm saying now.

0:20

Tommy: Uh, Bublé is playing at our place.

0:22

Josh: Really? Oh, that's nice.

0:23

Tommy: You know, live, but just, yeah.

0:27

Josh: I was driving the kids to school, Amy and Bodhi, and on the way back I'm listening to some thug rap, you know, just a bit of gangster shit. And then all of a sudden, just this beautiful Christmas tune comes on. Amy's on Spotify at work putting on Christmas tunes for the office.

0:47

Tommy: Beautiful. Talking about thug rap, did you see Justin Bieber is upset that he's being classed as pop music rather than R&B.

0:57

Josh: Interesting. Is he actually up in arms?

1:00

Tommy: Yeah. Justin Bieber.

1:03

Josh: R&B versus pop.

1:05

Tommy: Nah, I think it's—

1:06

Josh: I mean, I don't know the genres enough, but if he wants to be R&B, I'm happy with that. But I think of R&B like the Creeps of the world, like R. Kelly, like that sort of I mean, he's the— he's modern, he's pop, he's popular.

1:22

Tommy: So this is from Toronto Sun: Justin Bieber slams Grammys for calling his music pop. Justin Bieber wants members of the Recording Academy to stop calling him a pop star. The London, Ontario-born singer-songwriter picked up a Grammy noms for Best Pop Vocal Album, Best Pop Solo Performance, Best Pop Duo/Group Performance, and Best Country Duo and Group Performance, but took to Instagram to vent is dissatisfaction. So what is it? I just want to make sure. What is the— yeah, I set out to make an R&B album. Changes was and is an R&B album, is not being acknowledged as an R&B album. Yeah, which is very strange to me.

2:03

Josh: You're right, fair enough. There's a bunch of stuff about the Grammys, uh, going on. Like, uh, The Weeknd is absolutely furious that he didn't win a Grammy. I mean, it's ultimate baby spits the dummy, but but he deserves a Grammy, let's be honest. He's written some huge tunes. But then there's people coming out saying it's a, you know, you gotta know somebody. Like it's one of these award shows that ends up being sort of a bit rigged because it's who you know.

2:31

Tommy: Every single award show accused of this?

2:35

Josh: Well, if you think about it, I mean, there was recently the Australian Podcast Awards. Just think about it. That is not run by Apple, that is not run by Spotify, that is run by a couple of gronks that probably decided, let's do a Podcast Awards, and good on them, like, they've done a great job. It'd be like you and I creating an awards ceremony. And so my point being, it's not about the Australia— it's the Podcast Awards, it's about any of these things.

3:01

Tommy: A lot of them have been started at some point, but even the broader, the broader picture, like Apple, Spotify, they're not in a place to create an awards night either. Or if you want awards night, it sounds real pop for an awards night, doesn't it?

3:15

Josh: But the, um, no, but the thing is, I think at that point they would put on something pretty amazing if we did.

3:21

Tommy: Yeah, it might, it might be, might be nice, but I just don't know what the actual point of awards, like, what the point is.

3:32

Josh: Well, you, you end up seeing that the people that are it's like the arias, right? It's like a certain— it becomes this sort of scene where a bunch of similar people are always together. And then your window is getting done, by the way, in the background. Oh yeah, sorry.

3:49

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep working.

3:51

Josh: I've just got this cute little, cute little, um, bloke in short shorts around.

3:57

Tommy: Is that your dad?

3:58

Josh: Lawns and my windows.

3:59

Tommy: Yeah, it's my dad.

4:01

Josh: He's It's fucking in good nick. Um, um, no, but it is, it's— I was thinking about it, it is very like, not seedy, but like it's— you've got to be a part of it. So you're going to play the game in a certain way to be a part of different award shows, right? So you've got to be— there's always the fringe of creators that aren't networking in the right ways to be a part of these things. And so you see how there's just your point a problem with all awards shows to some degree.

4:30

Tommy: Well, do you remember the Commercial Radio Awards? These things like, these people get upset and they think that it's unfair and all this, and then you see who is picking awards and it becomes so political and everyone needs to be represented. What about the idea where it's like the way that podcasts are successful is based on whether you can build an audience and you can, you know, communicate to a crowd. I don't understand. I just don't know.

5:02

Josh: I know what you mean, but there is— there is— it's like the prestige of television. It's like awards shows. I mean, I went to a, um, I went to a 4th-year-old birthday over the weekend, and, um, I mean, you're pretty lucky to win pasta past the parcel. Aren't you? You got 10 kids, you're sending it around. The mum, the mum made sure that everybody got to open the present, open at least once, which was very nice. She's like keeping check, and then by the end of it says, has everyone had a chance to open? Yep, great, now we'll go on to the winner. And but you didn't want to put too much emphasis on the winner because the kids don't want to be rattled. So everybody won a piece of candy when they opened one layer.

5:46

Tommy: I've got a theory. I think that kids' birthday parties are the equivalent of awards nights because on the weekend, no, on the weekend we're in Pakenham and there was, I'm not even joking, it was super windy and we were outside, but a family had created a media wall with stands where the kids could come and get photos.

6:08

Josh: Oh no, what was on the wall?

6:11

Tommy: It was like bricks. And stuff like that. It said like happy birthday.

6:14

Josh: Oh, that's cute. I mean, whose social media is it for? I mean, it might be for the— yeah, that's a difference. So you've got the mum— my mum still has physical photo albums, and there's— I mean, Amy still has some from her childhood. We don't have any. We've just got a few on the wall and then Instagram and our phones and Google Photos. And so yeah, I mean, it is all for the gram. And then that is the thing, it is all for optics. Awards shows. But because it doesn't mean that just because The Weeknd didn't win a Grammy doesn't mean he's, he's no good. But it all helps. It depends on this, like the music industry. If you've been awarded something, it might leapfrog you to the next or get you some attention. So it does, it does work, or it does serve a purpose, but it's not for everybody. And I struggle to play the game of these things. But it's also—

7:10

Tommy: who does award shows empower?

7:14

Josh: Um, who is in power? It's the egos who are deciding, but also the, um, the people that win it. They might feel empowered that they've been picked. So it is serving that older vibe of I need to be picked for the thing I'm doing to know that I'm doing well. Which, even though I say that and I am of the understanding that there is a version that people do want to be picked. It also, I know the feeling of it, it feels good. It fucking feels real good, you know. Like when my son won Pass the Parcel.

7:46

Tommy: Everyone won though. He won over the weekend.

7:47

Josh: Everyone did. Well, not everyone fucking won a chalk holder. And he did, he walked away with a chalk holder.

7:53

Tommy: Yeah, he had the chalk holder, they had the chalk. Who's the winner? Yeah, anyway, if you like awards nights, to do it. It's not really my thing.

8:05

Josh: Okay.

8:06

Tommy: So, Jess Lucas, the whip, has given me a gift. She gave this on, I think it was Thursday. Put it in the boot of my car. Very annoying things going in the boot of the car because you sort of, because Bree straightaway says, oh, what's this? I'm like, I don't actually know, but let's bring it upstairs. So, what Jess has said is that this is a gift for the Big Media Company team. It's relating to the show potentially. Okay. And she said you can open it up on the show.

8:37

Josh: All right, this is an unboxing, right? Unwrapping. And it's not— I mean, it's the Christmas month, so let's vibe the present opening.

8:46

Tommy: Okay, here we go.

8:47

Josh: On the 1st of December.

8:48

Tommy: All right, here we go.

8:49

Josh: All right, is it wrapped nicely at least?

8:51

Tommy: Yeah.

8:52

Josh: Oh, it's got Christmas wrapping.

8:53

Tommy: Yep, BMC team. I'll read the card. Yeah, that's the polite thing to do.

8:59

Josh: Yeah, great. Just one thing on, um, pass the parcel. The annoying thing for the parent having to wrap a present 15 times. Wrapping one's annoying, but they're so shit.

9:09

Tommy: Like, it's so— okay, the envelope, the envelope's getting open, and the winner is— hang on a sec, stand by. All right, I've done a horrendous job of this, haven't I?

9:22

Josh: It's not your strong suit, opening things.

9:28

Tommy: All right, fa la la la la la la, and it's a llama and a Christmas tree. Oh my God, $100 cash just fell out. Okay, she's written in cursive, which is risky when you want it read out on air. Uh, dear TJ, JJMLGB. She's just gone with initials across the board. Thanks for, thanks for something every one year. Awesome. Okay, thanks for an awesome year. I hope you all have a very happy and something, I think relaxing, Christmas. Here's to many more. Ham. I mean, this, this is right.

10:26

Josh: I'm gonna back you up. I found Jess's diary the other day that she'd lost, and it was at the office, and I opened it and I thought I'd been taken back to the 1940s. It was that cursive, and that was like well written though, like so clean.

10:41

Tommy: This is what a teacher— you know where teachers would give notes to another teacher and you would be sent to send the note and it was like written in code just by like joint writing. So, I think it says, "Here's to many more hams, Anaheim in 2021." We're going to Anaheim.

10:56

Josh: Oh, yeah.

10:56

Tommy: I don't think it says that. Adnehems. And A-D-N-E-N-H-U-A-E-S. Ads in the SSs in the '20s. Adventures, adventures. She just likes adventures. Oh my goodness, why is it so bad? And then what is she signed off? It's— is this like— it looks like, um, is it meant to be Jess? I think it's from Gina. J-E-N-A. Jenna. Anyway. All right, can you just write in all capitals in future? Okay, here we go.

11:38

Josh: I mean, I'm the guy that rotates between capitals and lowercase throughout a word.

11:43

Tommy: You ready?

11:46

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Okay, great. You're definitely a guy who's ripped a present when opening it. Okay, so Turn around, show us.

12:02

Tommy: What is that? Okay, you're gonna have to read it.

12:04

Josh: So it says Adventures Adventure Challenge Friends Edition.

12:11

Tommy: Okay, here we go. Yes, it's a photo album. The Adventure Challenge Friends Edition.

12:15

Josh: Is it, is it, um, your friendship album?

12:19

Tommy: Your friendships are awaiting adventure with this book as your guide. Friends of all ages and group sizes alike can can experience fun and excitement in a new and unique way. The catch? You don't know what that adventure will be until you scratch off the super secret adventure foil. Like a lottery ticket, but instead of losing $5, you actually get to do something fun. Whether you're making a mess, inventing a new game, or getting flirtatious with a new friend. Yes! Your squad will connect with each other in all new ways. Spin the Bottle coming to BMC in 2021.

13:05

Josh: No, I like that, I like that. Maybe you could do like a, um, a Friday, Friday Avo Adventure Scratch-Off. I'm excited about this. And so you scratch it and there's something that we have to do as a team or as the person doing it. Thanks, Jess.

13:23

Tommy: Thank you, Jess. That's really, that's really lovely. It's— what a great idea. It's gonna be great. Like, we should— I think we could definitely do something. She just said it was because of Tommy's idea from GB's B-day. What was the idea?

13:38

Josh: I can't remember.

13:39

Tommy: Jess, don't connect dots for us. We don't know it. We can't remember what we say.

13:44

Josh: If Jess, more info, I appreciate. I just like the idea itself. And George Martin has said thanks, uh, Jess Lucas. That's lovely, which is very nice.

13:55

Tommy: On that sort of doing something on a Friday night thing got me thinking the other day.

14:02

Josh: I want to know— You can't come to the Christmas party, by the way.

14:04

Tommy: Yeah, I can't come to the Christmas party. No, so I think that I've, because I'm fairly new to drinking, there's these new things. There's these new things.

14:14

Josh: After this year, 2021, you're actually, I've been drinking for quite some time now. That's what you're gonna replace, I'm new to drinking.

14:21

Tommy: So, I've discovered this thing. I want to know if this happens to you. I don't know what it's called, but it's having dreams that feel like they actually— After you drink, having a dream that is so realistic that you wake up and you think that it's happened.

14:42

Josh: Vivid dream?

14:43

Tommy: Like a— But not like a vivid dream. Like, alright. So, I'll give you an idea. Hanging out with mates the other night. I woke up in the morning and I was like, oh my God, like I got a little bit tipsy. I was like, oh my God, I like said this thing out like a— that was so like out of character for me. And I was like, oh my, I can't believe I said it. And it got like quite the reaction. I was like, this is— I can't— like I felt really bad. I was like sitting on the couch the next day, I was like Should I like say something? Like, I feel like, like, was it bad enough that like, I just don't want people to think that that's what I actually think. Like, I was like, oh my God, I can't believe you said it. And like someone told me off about it and I was like, of course. Anyway, so I bring it up to my mate. I was like, hey, I can't, I don't know if this actually happened, but I think that I said this and then everyone did this.. And they were like, nah, nah, it didn't happen. But I was so glad that I brought it up because I spent a whole day just fretting, being like, this is really— I don't drink.

15:49

Josh: I don't drink. Did you ask Bree?

15:50

Tommy: Nah, nah, because Bree wasn't even in the whole thing. And I was almost like, I felt so bad about it that I was just like, I'm not going to talk about it. And then I still don't know. I still don't know whether they're just being nice to me and just pretending that it didn't happen.

16:08

Josh: I don't want to know. It actually didn't happen. Yeah, but what did the thing— it was just a slur.

16:11

Tommy: It was just like the thing you say, did you believe it?

16:13

Josh: Do you honestly believe it?

16:15

Tommy: No, no. So this was the whole thing. This is what was so fucked up, is like I said this thing and I was like, why did— like, why did I think that that was funny at all? It'd be something that you'd hear on this playground in 1995. Okay, type of deal. And I was just. I was like, oh my God, like, of course I got told off. Like I said this thing, like I shouldn't say this thing. And so, it was just a bizarre feeling where I was actually quite freaked out after I spoke to them and I said, hey, did I— It wasn't even, did I say this? I was just like, hey, I just want to say sorry if you remember this thing. And like, that didn't happen.

16:54

Josh: Well, I mean, did someone spike your drink?

16:58

Tommy: But then this also happened with a few weeks earlier, I thought that I saw an Insta storey from someone doing this whole thing, and I remember sitting there watching it. And then I was speaking to you about it and we're like, no, that didn't happen either. So I'm a bit fucking freaked out at the moment.

17:16

Josh: So I've just said alcohol disrupts your sleep cycle and can interfere with your REM sleep. REM sleep is the sleep stage where you will often have vivid dreams or nightmares. Which means when alcohol affects your REM, it can bring on bad dreams. I mean, maybe that's where you're getting these are bad dreams because you're like, or compromising dreams. Bad dreams don't have to be zombies like Bodhi's dreams. They could be you've said the wrong thing or you're getting cancelled. I mean, that's a bad dream. So chances being cancelled.

17:46

Tommy: I don't want to be cancelled. Uh, so sciencefocus.com sounds legit. Uh, they say many people use alcohol to help them sleep. Do they? All right, give me a sec. That's a terrible fact. Um, the headline, we love a headline. Why do, why do alcohol drinks give me vivid dreams? That's all you need to know. That's interesting. Yeah, that's true.

18:09

Josh: Here we go. Can alcohol cause lucid dreams? Did I say lucid dreams? No, vivid dreams and nightmares. With alcohol in your system, you're more likely to have intense Colourful dreams and nightmares as you sleep, as your sleep patterns ebb and flow. You may or may not remember them, but they can be lucid or give you a feeling that you are half awake and half asleep. Oh, that's the lucid dream. You kind of feel like you're gauging your surroundings, but you're still asleep. I mean, that's weird. I mean, fuck, you are new to drinking.

18:42

Tommy: Well, I think that maybe part of it is being so close from drinking to going to sleep. Maybe that's part of it.

18:51

Josh: I mean, yeah, but there's also like, there's some fears too. Like I've had dreams when I've been drinking that I've done something bad, done something like you're saying, it's like you did something out of character for you. Like I've had heaps of dreams when I'm drinking. I just don't take much.

19:08

Tommy: And I thought it was real. So the thing is, I literally, I was like, the blend, because the thing is it's sort of this vagueness where it's like, time's all fucked up, but then I couldn't connect the dots of how I got there. So I was like, I knew what I said, but I don't know how I got into that position where I was saying it.

19:26

Josh: Yeah, yeah. I mean, fuck, it's dangerous. I mean, we've got our Christmas party for big media company this Friday. I mean, there could be, I mean, Tully might bring the beer bong, who knows? It sounds a bit, you know, quite appropriate. Could be some funny dreams after that, or you might say something that night. How are you feeling about it?

19:47

Tommy: Well, no, I just think, you know, as a business owner, I should probably like set the standard and get my stomach pumped. No, no, I should be somewhat responsible and just ease into it. I mean, we're doing— can we say what we're doing? I guess we can.

20:08

Josh: Yeah, I think we've said it.

20:08

Tommy: Yeah, we're doing the cork and canvas. It's so, it's, you know, you So, you paint something and then you drink at the same time. And then we're going to like a gin, we're going to a gin place, which should be good in Richmond.

20:25

Josh: Very excited. Today is a big day, guys. 1st of December, first day of summer, but first day that I can have coffee again. I haven't had coffee in a month.

20:35

Tommy: Oh, that's exciting. Have you actually had it yet?

20:37

Josh: No, not yet. Not yet. Um, I will after this with my dad, you know, do a celebratory, you know, Dad, you've done well, you've done the lawns and the windows. Um, congratulations, I'll get you a coffee. Oh, that's nice. So for his, his payment, I'll buy him a coffee and then I'll, uh, get myself one. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it, looking forward to it. One a day, that's my rule, one a day. As much as I like a strong one, fucking strong three-quarter. Yeah, I'll get that because I'll be too disappointed if it comes, you know, a week, week later. I'll be furious.

21:12

Tommy: So we did talk about December 1st being the date where we were going to talk about our intentions a little bit.

21:18

Josh: Yep. Well, you've— I mean, your intentions are clear with the, with the, uh, bike that you got yesterday.

21:27

Tommy: Yeah.

21:27

Josh: And the photos you were sending through of your sweaty face.

21:30

Tommy: Oh, I'm fired up. It is so good. Like the trainers or whatever, Pri was saying like, do you know that you're responding to them during, like she's like, how you, what did she say? I was just like, are you feeling it? I'm like, yeah. As I'm riding up a hill.

21:50

Josh: So, Josh has got a spin bike with a TV on it basically, if we're to sort of reduce it to that, but it's a lot more. A lot more intense than that, but you've already started your riding.

22:03

Tommy: Yes.

22:03

Josh: That's great.

22:04

Tommy: Yeah, so I did a ride for about 26 minutes this morning, Utah, up a hill. That was sort of, I'm feeling, I think that that's why I'm coughing. I feel like the, it's sort of—

22:15

Josh: The altitude's got you.

22:16

Tommy: She does talk about altitude. You're still stuck in Utah, I feel like it's a little bit like just fucking this whole exercise thing, just move shit around. Oh my God, I put my Lycra on. What a look, what a look. It's just like—

22:30

Josh: feel good or feel yucky?

22:32

Tommy: Uh, it feels good. It's— you realize, um, when I bought it, I didn't feel that body confident, but like wearing it, I've got a whole new appreciation with, with how I looked then, because putting it on now, it's It's sort of like I'm worried for the zipper as I'm like zipping it up. But it's, yeah, it's got the, what is it? The middle-aged man, the mammal, the middle-aged man in lycra. It's got that vibe. It's like I look like someone that you would see at sort of an inner city cafe where they're sort of like limping along because they've got their bike shoes in.

23:14

Josh: You know, it's sort of like. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

23:15

Tommy: Cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck. But it's. No, I'm enjoying it. I, I was looking at— they've got a leaderboard, and so I'm like trying to see how I'm going on the leaderboard with this ride.

23:27

Josh: Yeah, this is online, like a collective leaderboard of everybody that's a part of it.

23:33

Tommy: Yeah. And so, uh, I was, uh, 200, uh, out of, uh, 400. Yeah.

23:42

Josh: How good would it be if you were mates with like Lance Armstrong and you, um, and he came over, you're like, mate, can you just fucking get us to number 1? Just, can you just set a record for for me. And then, um, and then yeah, that's it. I'll say it's me.

23:54

Tommy: But no, it is, uh, it is good fun. I'm trying to think— the seat, it's hard getting comfortable to the seat, but because it's like a proper bike seat, so it really hurts your gooch. But I think you're better off just leaning into it and getting comfy rather than— you can get replacement seats, but I think that it's not a good idea because you're essentially not riding the bike. Like, it's, it's going to change the whole thing of it.

24:19

Josh: It's like people who squat with a piece of foam on their neck. It's like that was always shunned in the gyms that I trained in. And now I have a patch on my shoulders from holding a barbell on both sides that is missing hair. Like, it literally— you don't need laser hair removal, just fucking squat and use a heavy barbell. And it's literally rubbed off. I'd get like scabs there. It's rubbed off my hair. But it's the same, it's like you actually get used to it. And by the time you've done it a while, for a while, you can't feel it. So you won't be able to feel your anus pretty soon, is what I'm saying.

24:54

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I definitely feel it. No, but it is good fun trying to do a, you know, a couple of, um, you know, 25-minute ones a day to start. You can see how you can overdo it because it's, it's just sitting there. You just want to jump on and do another ride. Just get a stretch as well, dude, otherwise you'd just be It's just warming up as well. Yeah, definitely feeling it in the hips. But yeah, so something around the bike stuff, I think I'll dial in how many kilometres I should be doing a day. I rode halfway to Mason's place. So you've got Google Maps, and so I set, you know, from Collingwood to Balwyn North to his address. This is funny gear and just riding along, but it's fucking hilly around around that way. Like, I had to go—

25:40

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

25:40

Tommy: Yeah.

25:41

Josh: So it was up to the Q Junction.

25:43

Tommy: Yeah, that's what got me. But the one thing I need to work out is that the— they use Street View, and so it puts up a photo every sort of 5 seconds, 3 seconds or something. But they haven't completely dialled it in because sometimes you're on the opposite side of the road. So you're seeing cars coming towards you. Not the whole time, but yeah, that was one thing. I think something around the exercise stuff, moving every day. AllTrails, if anyone wants to get into walking and they don't want to buy a bike, in December I am going to be using AllTrails a lot, which is like a walking, like a, it's like a hiking app. So, you can hike in different places. And so, if anyone wants to follow me on there, I think if you search Josh Janson, I'll follow you back and we can we can, you know, track our hikes together.

26:36

Josh: Cute. Now, I think what we did a couple of years ago, the word, Jason Fox inspired choosing a word. I've kind of got a theme I'm playing with that sort of encapsulates, yeah, health and doing stuff. It's not necessarily work-focused, but it's like how to be more optimal in yourself. Like you'll only be a better version of yourself in all other areas if you've, you know, you got that consistent regime in that just makes you feel good. Did you feel good after 20 minutes on the bike?

27:11

Tommy: Well, yeah, the thing is, it's— I mean, this is a classic thing, isn't it? During, you're like, this is painful. But then I think that the reframe for me is it's like, it's meant to be painful, especially at the start, like when you're getting used to it, like that whole thing of like, no, you need to do X amount of rides and then it becomes comfy. I think that part of it is that I would sit on a bike, I'm like, oh, this is not comfy, it's not designed for me, and then I wouldn't do it. But if it's like, okay, it's not designed for anyone, it's not like— no one's sort of like positioned to feel good on the bike from day one, and then you can keep going. But the other thing I think that helps is it's like, it's, um, the perfect combo, I feel, for me, which is like investment, financial investment. And then also like it takes up a little bit more space, and it is— it's a bit obnoxious. And so I think that that obnoxious thing becomes this great noisy thing. Like, this feels like this is my last— if I can't make this work, I'm fucked. You know what I mean?

28:15

Josh: No, I appreciate it, and I agree.

28:18

Tommy: No, because you're not going— you're not saying, you know what, like What I need is a rower. Like, I need, like, there's at least 3 years of doing this every single day. Like, that's what this deserves, 3 years every single day before I'm like—

28:34

Josh: I mean, just 1 year, do 365.

28:35

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

28:36

Josh: The 365 Challenge, that'll get you going unless it's a leap year and then it's not 365. Don't think it is. Was this year the leap year?

28:45

Tommy: Yeah, it was, wasn't it?

28:46

Josh: Yeah, the Olympics were meant to be on.

28:48

Tommy: Oh yeah, what happened to that?

28:50

Josh: I got coronavirus, dude. They did leap year. It was— yeah, leap year began on Wednesday, 1st of January, ends on the 31st of December. So it, um, every 4— this year is a leap year. What a fucking year. Weird shit happened. We can delete it because it is the leap year. Just finish it.

29:08

Tommy: Um, but yeah, so I appreciate the internal sort of optimization you're saying.

29:14

Josh: Yeah, yeah. But I think with it, we said we weren't gonna go into it too hard, but there is definitely the power in the premise of don't wait till January 1st to start the thing that you wanna do. I've already started, I'm feeling good about it. For some reason, I've got more motivation than I think I would if I was doing this January 1st. And I feel like I'm getting ahead of the curve. I've, uh, this is some hack. You're like, fuck, let's start a bit earlier. Let's get it going. Let's start implementing some of these things. So if there is something you want to do, get started today. Why not December 1 rather than Jan 1?

29:54

Tommy: Yeah, it does give you the time. But also the other thing too is the, the idea. So I think a lot of people would say, why would you start during Christmas? It's the hardest time, you know, December, the holidays, all that sort of thing. But also like a brilliant time, which is like if you can make it work, if you can do a version. So, for me, it's not like I'm going to go to Christmas parties and not eat, but I'll just have like some turkeys and potato and veggies. Like I don't need to eat a whole bucket of M&M's, you know.

30:29

Josh: Yeah.

30:29

Tommy: Which the thing is that, which I think that I've always given myself a pass, which is like It's Christmas, the main goal is to feel sick at the end of the day. Like let's lean into it. And so you don't need to do that.

30:43

Josh: But yeah, for me it's even like, so at least exert if you're going to do something destructive, it's when you end up throwing it all out, you've thrown out movement, you've thrown out any sort of resistance to the naughtiness of Christmas food, and then you're just like, But come January 1st, you know, you're just fucking rolling into the new year. It's like, oh God, fuck, yeah, I'm tired, I'm lethargic, my blood sugar's fucked. It's like it's all gone. Anyway, I'm, um, no, I'm excited. I'm excited to see you, uh, fucking get those legs just rock solid.

31:23

Tommy: Yeah, it is really, uh, those rider legs really feel it, you know.

31:28

Josh: No, but what are you doing? Are you, um, well, that's really interesting.

31:31

Tommy: Tell us. So the thing is, oh, okay. I know, because I've got more. You don't want to hear more?

31:36

Josh: Well, I've got to go for coffee with my dad. Okay, yeah, this is a real addict.

31:39

Tommy: Yeah, it's definitely around this. There's definitely stuff around the social media stuff. I'm sure that you'll go, or like apps, like just fucking scroll time, which we're all going to implement. Yeah, it's too much fucking scrolling.

31:51

Josh: Parenting, some parenting things as well. Um, there's many things that I want to implement. It's just, I think that word sort of can summarise for me the word where you pick a word for your year. It kind of sets an intention. I've had one that was consistency another year, and then whatever I pick, I want it to sort of encapsulate, you know, work, family, health, those kind of three areas that end up being your life.

32:20

Tommy: They never change, do they? It's always the same.

32:22

Josh: It never does. It's just about how you've reframed them and what drive or what reason you have for committing to something. And so, yeah, I'm—

32:35

Tommy: Hi@midtownertalkshow.com. Send us what you are doing for the new year. If you do want to join me on AllTrails, let me know. Or if you have a bike that has iFit, We can become friends on there as well. Uh, great. All right, well, uh, enjoy December 1st. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

32:53

Josh: See you guys.

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