Fashionable Merch

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 919. Happy Fat Friday! What is happening? How's the vibe?

Josh: It's good. It's good. Uh, I am eating today Lazy Daisy butter— do you say pecans or pecans? What do you say?

Tommy: I guess there's a third option, pecans.

Josh: You're saying pecans. You're pecans on the weekend.

Tommy: I think I say, I've done that. Pecans.

Josh: So, I think pecans might be the American sort of way. But yeah, this is the buttered pecans and butterscotch toffee milk from Hey Tiger. So, I'm going to try this. This is part of their Christmas range. What have you got?

Tommy: Well, I was out, I just went down to an establishment and I was vibing. I mean, it's sunny in Melbourne. It is that Friday vibe. Like it is, it's feeling much more normal, even though people are in masks. But Victoria has had over 2 weeks of zero cases of coronavirus. So, it feels like it's gone. I know it's around, feels like it's gone. You know, and so it's like a hemorrhoid really. It's like sometimes, but it's fucking still there. It just doesn't feel bad.

Josh: Yeah, go on. So what, what have you got?

Tommy: So I, I went to a bakery and I was speaking to Jess Lucas on the phone, GM Jess, and I said, because she's on a— I call it a lifestyle, others would call it a strict diet, um, but hey, it's working. She's having success, which is the main thing. And I said to her, if you were me, what would you eat? And she said, I can't, I couldn't eat anything. I was like, no, no, no, no. If you— if I had to just eat what you told me to, what would you get? And so I went in and I know the guys at this bakery, and I took some photos. I was like, man, do you mind if I take a photo of the, the pie area? So I took a photo of the pie area, the sweets area, the sandwiches area. Wow. And Jess circled exactly what she wanted.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And I bought that.

Josh: Is it a sweet or savory?

Tommy: Well, I ate the pie. I was too fucking hungry. It was the most amazing chicken and mushroom pie.

Josh: Can I guess what it's going to be?

Tommy: Well, this is the sweet, so you can guess the sweet. I'll give you that much. Think Jess Lucas, think sweet.

Josh: So I would go smiley face, but it's not going to be a smiley face.

Tommy: Well, do you know what she said to me? Oh, I would go Smiley for Alice. It's not that kind of a— It's a French patisserie. It's—

Josh: Okay, sure. I could imagine her going those pink fluffy coconut things. Like a jelly cake or something. Or what they call it.

Tommy: No, I reckon you could get it on your second try. Think about a bakery. Think about a bakery.

Josh: Well, it's not the chocolate éclair.

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: Is it a hedgehog?

Tommy: Nah, that's a— I can imagine it just being a hedgehog.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Two more. Come on.

Josh: I'm about to bring it up. A lemon slice.

Tommy: No, one more, one more. Come on.

Josh: Is it a tart?

Tommy: That's not an answer. You need a definitive question. Okay. Sorry, definitive answer.

Josh: Definitive answer.

Tommy: Okay, here we go. Come on. Okay.

Josh: No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't go yet. Still going. Uh, is it a— what else do they have? They would have it. 3, 2, 1. What is it? I can't think of— I can't think of anything else.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a fucking vanilla slice.

Josh: Oh, vanilla slice, of course.

Tommy: Wow, it's huge.

Josh: I should have known.

Tommy: It's fucking ginormous. I, I saw it and I was like, oh yeah, but then I got it and I was like, oh my, oh my, this is fucking ginormous. Let me take it.

Josh: Here we go. Oh, this is good. Oh mate, there is so much cream.

Tommy: Jess, great choice. Everything a vanilla slice should be. Complicated to eat because it—

Josh: it's—

Tommy: you can't cut it in half, it's too hard. Um, not too sweet though, like perfect. I love that. Anyway, tartan in Bulleen— or Baldwin, sorry. Awesome. Um, just one thing. I— today I woke up and I mean last night, that's another storey actually. So yesterday, Arvo, I'm doing— I've just got into an edit, Premiere Pro opens up and I've got my headphones in, I'm strapped in, you know, got the aircon on. In fact, I'm going to turn it back on. Got the aircon on blowing on me, got my headphones on, I'm in the zone. And then literally it sounded like this.

Josh: Oh really?

Tommy: And what it was was the aircon turning off and slowly sort of lowering its pushing of air. But in my headphones, because they went— there was no sound in them anymore, I could really hear the zhu of the aircon. Anyway, my computer had switched off completely mid-edit. Oh, that's so annoying. Like, and it's plugged into the wall, so it's not a laptop. So it's— I could hear a laptop in another room going, playing something. I was like, hang on, what's going on? What's happened? Then I turned on my camera, which is plugged into power, and I was like, that's on, okay, it's not completely gone. What the fuck? Press my computer, I'm like, oh no, the computer's dead. I'm fucking needing to deliver things. I've got something.

Josh: You thought it was not only a power thing, you thought the computer had shit the bed?

Tommy: Yep, because the light on the aircon was still on, still on. And I, and I turned it on, it wouldn't blow any air. I was like, okay, this is all fucking a bit weird. I've removed— this is the fucked up bit— I removed my, uh, quadruple adapter. It's another name for a power board. I lost that, went out of my head. Remove the power board from the wall where my computer's plugged into the power board, plug the power, the the computer straight into the wall, turned it back on. It worked. My computer worked. Really? Then all of a sudden, my computer went off.

Josh: I've been having this issue as well. I don't know what this is, but I've had an issue with our, um, bedroom where it doesn't like charge. Like, if we have too many— like, if we have the laptop plugged in and the iPad, the iPad doesn't charge. It's another story. I don't know what the deal is with that. Do you know what that is?

Tommy: Well, I mean, it might be connected to what I'm about to say, but have you ever heard of a brownout? And not getting your brown, brown out, or a brown eye, or a full moon back in the day?

Josh: Some people call doing a poo browning.

Tommy: Okay, it's not—

Josh: Or making a brownie.

Tommy: It's got nothing— Making dirt. It's got nothing to do—

Josh: Is that Borat?

Tommy: Oh yeah, Borat. He says, uh, you make dirt, you make poop. Yeah.

Josh: And so, so what's a brownout?

Tommy: Well, I called my brother because what was happening was I turned the lights on, it was like on, and then it was flickering, and then the, um, the fridge was turning on and off, on and off. I was like, we're still eating power.

Josh: Were you getting worried that appliances— I feel like this is the sort of thing where Shit gets broken.

Tommy: So it's like, dude, dude, worried, real worried, real worried. I got a computer here that's got work on it that I need to do. It's my only work device.

Josh: Yeah, I was obsessed as a kid of uninterrupted power supplies. I had this real fear that I was going to lose power and not be able to use the computer. They're quite expensive, but it's a big sort of— it's a box that sits between your power and your computer.. And if the power goes out, you have about 15 minutes, it starts beeping, you can shut everything down.

Tommy: Runs off battery. So, you don't lose anything. So, I call my bro because he's an electrician and I checked the power box, nothing had been shorted. So, it's like nothing needed to be turned back on, it wasn't any of that. A brownout, he tells me. Sends me a wiki link. A brownout is an intentional or unintentional drop in voltage in an electrical power supply system. Intentional brownouts are used for load reduction in an emergency. The term brownout comes from the dimming of incandescent lighting when the voltage reduces. A voltage reduction may be an effect of disruption of an electrical grid or may occasionally be imposed in an effort to reduce load and prevent a power outage. Known as a blackout. So, the difference between the blackout and the brownouts, blackout's gone, brownouts you still have some current, but it's very low. And so, I was in the middle of my first brownout.

Josh: I wonder what happens with people that have solar panels. I guess they wouldn't experience that.

Tommy: Ah, I don't know. I mean, that's something Rob, Rob Ward would be across. He's got a few solar panels on his house. I'm not sure if they switch over to only use the solar power energy. I thought it's just a mixture of— mixture into a grid unless you're completely off the grid properties.

Josh: So, I remember there was a— I don't understand it. I'm not even going to enter into it because I don't get it.

Tommy: Well, so what happened was you said something malfunctions. The only thing that malfunctioned was Michelle Laurie in my room. And so, well, my fan is named Michelle Laurie.

Josh: Oh, that's right.

Tommy: Michelle Laurie gave me the fan. And so, it's a Dyson. Yeah, and on it, and the Dyson's lights were still on, but it said F4. What do you do if you see F4? I don't even know what that means. It never says F4. It either says 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 for the speed, or 40 mins.

Josh: Oh, F4. Did you Google it?

Tommy: Yeah, so I Googled it. F4 is a fault function in Dyson products where you need to disconnect it from the power source for 60 seconds No more, no less. And then you plug it back into another— no, I didn't. I just actually took it out. So I took— yeah, anyway, I plugged it back in and it works. It lost its fault function. And so what a nightmare. But I tell you what, things happen for a reason, Josh Janson. You know, um, brownout caused me to call you to say, what I— what can I look up? Because you're the, you know, tech guy and looking up shit. You said go Twitter. I'm on Twitter.

Josh: We're searching Bulleen and things like that. Couldn't find anything there, but, uh, you did find something.

Tommy: I'll tell you what I found in Bulleen. The KISS FM street team giving away prizes at the Bulleen Plaza, which is about 5 minutes walk from my joint.

Josh: So did you find it because you searched Bulleen?

Tommy: I literally searched Bulleen, saw it. They're like, um, hey guys, we're at the Bulleen Plaza from 5 PM giving away free prizes.

Josh: It was like, so how far away is that from your joint?

Tommy: Yeah, 5 minutes, dude. Just, just literally, I'm like, this is amazing. So I went for a walk first, stinking hot, 35 degrees or something, and then I get to the Bullene Plaza. I see them setting up. I'm just like, I now know what it feels— I used to work on that street team, or the street team for the radio stations. There would always be people hanging around that knew that will come and It's ready. And I was the guy just like, I literally was peeking around the corner just like, fucking, were there many people there?

Josh: Well, what sort of—

Tommy: I went up, I reckon. So they pulled out the front of Domino's and parked across some car spots, so they had a good spot. PA system set up, the car with the graphics, Jason PJ on the side. They had a spinning wheel. You know, like a Wheel of Fortune wheel, um, had a hand sanitization station. It was fun, it was awesome. And so I was about the second person there, and I went up and I spun, spun it, and, um, it was either, you know, you could get— win some merch, or you could win some pizza, 2 large pizzas and, uh, you know, 2 sides. And so I, I spun it and I didn't win, but she said, oh, you can have some merchandise, you know, if you want.

Josh: I said, well, it was a phone charger or a drink bottle with like a Jason PJ.

Tommy: I must have been— I don't know, I didn't get it because I said, oh, I'd prefer the pizza. And she said, all right, you can have the pizza. Oh, that's nice. And so, and so I know how it works. I would do that same shit. Someone just asked, I'd be like, all right, mate, here you go.. And so I got myself, I got myself dinner. The house, no power, didn't want to cook, it was too hot, the aircon had gone.

Josh: Were your neighbours, was their power out as well?

Tommy: Yeah, their power was gone. Their power was gone. And so it, things happen for a reason. Blackout, a brownout into 2 large pizzas and 2 sides.

Josh: Thanks, Justin. What sides did you get? Can we get that clean?

Tommy: Thanks, Kiss FM.

Josh: I actually remember I went to the car show many years ago and Gold FM was there. I remember I was shocked because I was there and they had sort of the outside broadcast section and no one was in there. They had the PA system and there was someone talking, and I was like just blown away with like, how— what are they doing? Wait, hang on, I'm looking at the microphone, there's no one there, how's this happening? It was a pre-record. And, um, but I entered the competition and, uh, you know, got a, got a call. I was, I was under 18 or whatever, so got a call, um, maybe a month later, a few weeks later, saying you've, uh, you've won brand new tyres for your car. And so, Mum and Dad were— Yeah, yeah. Mum and Dad were rapt with that. That was great.

Tommy: That's $300-400, isn't it?

Josh: Yeah, it was. Yeah, a lot of value.

Tommy: How did you win it? What did you have to do?

Josh: You just had to fill out the details. I'm sure no one was doing it. Yeah. You've got to be in it to win it.

Tommy: That's exactly right. You got to spin it to win it.

Josh: Was anyone else waiting in line?

Tommy: So, by the time I had ordered my pizza, oh, and get this for luck. I hadn't charged my phone the previous night, so my phone by the end of the day was like rat shit. It was like—

Josh: So, sort of irresponsible that you didn't go for the battery.

Tommy: I know. It's the thing I needed most. I didn't need the calories from the 2 large pizzas, but—

Josh: Which pizzas did you get, by the way?

Tommy: Oh, barbecue chicken with pineapple, Amy's request, and then a vegetarian, which was nice. And so anyway, I got the thing that said you can, you know, get your pizzas. I went into the Domino's there and they said, oh, you got to get this online. I was like, oh no. So I download the app. I'm at 2% battery. I'm putting in the details.

Josh: Sweating.

Tommy: I was sweating. I was sweating and I secured the order. I got it.

Josh: That's great.

Tommy: And so—

Josh: Were they not doing— was it just because of the promo was online?

Tommy: The promo is just a code. You can actually get free delivery or whatever. It's awesome. Anyway, that was, that was full-on hot. But I was saying this morning I woke up and I'm at that sort of pickle where I, um, got no t-shirts, got absolutely no t-shirts that are clean. There's some clean right now because they've just been washed, but I need to dry them. Um, and I have a— I don't want to say the name of the brand because I feel like we've already given them too too much credit lines. I will say you could probably gauge who it is and don't cut to a wide 'cause you'll see the logo because I've had to resort to wearing the merchandise that they sent us. I will say that the reason I am apprehensive about going down to somewhere like the bakery, which come to think about it, I'd forgot I was wearing it.

Josh: You look like a promo guy.

Tommy: On the back of the shirt, It just has this huge thing that says, "Your balls will thank you," in large text. Large.

Josh: Were you wearing this when you got your pizza thing?

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: That would have been perfect. If you had that yesterday, it's just like you are the ultimate prize pig, because it's a t-shirt that you definitely won.

Tommy: At another contest. But I went down to the— yeah, I literally was self-conscious about wearing it to the coffee shop this morning and then to the bakery. And then I actually have just forgotten that I'm wearing it. I was thinking about promotional t-shirts. Okay, so there's a class of people, category of people that would actually vibe them and like them and wear them. Majority— and I'm talking, I'm talking sort of that disposable— they're not disposable, but they're highly just— they don't care about the quality, they're just sending them out. Although this one is quite fucking comfy and good quality, but they are just given out, right? They're relying on people that have run out of clothes in their wardrobe, and they're relying on people that keep promotional clothing and keeping their wardrobe for when they're just gronks and haven't actually done the washing. Because I'm actually forced into a corner. I can't walk around in a no top all day, mate.

Josh: But don't you feel that sometimes promo stuff done right, they get you on the quality? So if the quality is really good— so for instance, I've got this CodePen, this this, um, you know, like a CSS, like random sort of coding website, did a video on the founder and he gave me a hoodie. That hoodie is so comfortable that I just, I wear it all the time.

Tommy: Yeah. Okay, so there's—

Josh: what about Frame.io? You had the Frame.io t-shirt that you were wearing for a while.

Tommy: Yeah, so it is the quality. So you have no real affinity to the brand, but you're willing to wear it based on the quality. I bought McDonald's socks. Yeah, they're good though. I think they're a good purchase and a bit hipster, you know, pull them up tight, pull them up high with your 3/4 pants. But so you've got— but what about all the other stuff? Because what you're saying is not every brand. Think about the amount of promotional gear giving away, given away, and a lot of them are crappy t-shirts.

Josh: So what are the, what are the brands that you would wear? I remember, um, for for my 18th birthday, a friend giving me an Apple Chadstone t-shirt. She got it because she was one of the first people to go into the store. I think it was the first 100 people got a t-shirt.

Tommy: Did you look like a staff member?

Josh: You did.

Tommy: Oh, this is actually a thing too, dude. It's like quite hip to get staff clothing of places.

Josh: Well, Bunnings, you can buy the Bunnings hat. You can buy Spotlight. Sorry, not Spotlight. IKEA. Have taken the IKEA bag, you know, that sort of blue material, you know, that sort of blue plastic sort of material. They've turned that into a hat, like one of those sort of like bowl sort of hat things. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Bucket hat. Bucket hat. Hipster. Yeah. Bucket hats are full hipster at the moment.

Josh: So, what other brands? Like Coca-Cola, I feel like is a brand that people would sort of wear.

Tommy: Strong enough. I mean, I would probably get around in a Foot Locker, sort of look like a coach, just Yeah, look like I'm about to bloody referee a game of, um, you know. So you're talking uniforms then, like, well, there's a bit of both because you can almost— yeah, other than because there are probably some brands that do cool looking merch on purpose, but it's more just— so Grant Smiley, who we had on the show about a year ago over in LA, he is just about to open Ponyfish Island, his venue in Melbourne. Awesome, unique spot on the Yarra, sort of midway on a bridge that sort of steps down to this little platform area. So, it's like nowhere else like it in Melbourne whatsoever. And they've just done a reno, but he's just posting photos of their new uniform. And their uniform's sick, like the staff's uniform, crisp, like good quality, looks like great colours.

Josh: It's not blue and white, I could imagine. What colours are they?

Tommy: Great colours. I think there was some like pastels. Like real summery vibe.

Josh: It's different pastels and pastels. I don't know, pastels, I like that.

Tommy: Sounded cooler to say pastels. Yeah, croissant, croissant, mate.

Josh: Croissant. Um, you know, so what other brands? Like, let's think about brands that we would wear.

Tommy: Oh, uh, I mean, you're talking about the big power players— Adidas, Nike— which these people sell. It's nice because they sell the clothing. You can't— yeah, you can't get Yeah, they're not giving away merch. Okay. So, you're taking it away from that.

Josh: So, yeah, it needs to be something like a—

Tommy: So, Coca-Cola is probably in line. Uber, would you? I've seen people rocking Uber merch. Have you seen that?

Josh: Yeah, I think—

Tommy: You wouldn't wear it?

Josh: I'm on the fence. I think, you know what? I owned one. Did you?

Tommy: Did you?

Josh: So, a friend that— Where has that gone? Where is my t-shirt gone? Yeah, I had an Uber, an Uber t-shirt.

Tommy: As he said that, his t-shirt that he was wearing just disappeared.

Josh: Yeah, it's crazy. No, I did have a friend worked at Uber in the early days and she gave me one. Yeah, what other, what other brands? Techy ones to me.

Tommy: 13 Cabs.

Josh: No, no, sorry.

Tommy: Surfboarding brands, so they're like, they're cool. Rip Curl. No, no, that's—

Josh: they're clothing brands.

Tommy: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. There's a few surfboard brands that aren't necessarily there. McTavish. So these are some sort of bespoke— oh, oh, I've got one. Evolve Skateboards. Oh yeah, so skateboard brands, they're just throwing a cheeky tee to get you, you know, get you wearing their brand. I was wearing—

Josh: do we think that 2021 could be the, the year that we actually sort out the Daily Talk Show merch in a proper way, having something constantly up. That would be fun.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great. I mean, what do you think about uniforms? What do you think about uniforms? Oh, that's what I mean.

Josh: So big media company, it could look nice. Like these ANS colour long sleeve numbers are actually quite nice.

Tommy: And so putting like 6 months of the year.

Josh: Yeah, so BMC on that could look Okay, but it can also look super sort of daggy. Like, I've seen a few sort of production companies where they have their own t-shirts. Yeah. And there you've just got to rein in the, um, like making sure that things are ironed. Oh, because it's like, I mean, it's not an iron t-shirt, it just looks like— I don't know if they just do it for the shoots, like everyone's got to wear your, you know, yeah, yeah, your company t-shirt, and then it's all crinkled up.

Tommy: It's at the bottom of the fucking wardrobe.

Josh: Nothing's worse. You know what's— nothing's worse than a crinkled t-shirt that's then tucked in. It's very fucking confusing. What it— like, do you care or don't you care? You know what I mean? Because like, it won't go back to Queer Eye for the—

Tommy: oh no, it's not that, it's just called Queer Eye now.

Josh: Yeah, no, but I feel— don't you feel that the, um, it's sort of a bit confusing where it's like, if I see a creased t-shirt that then is tucked in, I just assume that they got food on the bottom half.

Tommy: Well, it's 50% commitment. It's like, it's— you're 50% there.

Josh: Did you ever tuck in shirts or t-shirts as a kid?

Tommy: As in, in what way?

Josh: Like, well, so when I played golf, so when I played golf, I'd have my polo and I would—

Tommy: that makes sense.

Josh: I would tuck it all in and then I would do— put my arms up and then it would sort of pull out and I would sort of— so you would have like a nice even around the sides. Yes, you're sort of pulling at it, that type of thing.

Tommy: That makes sense though, suits and— but, but I mean, it's more t-shirts.

Josh: I can imagine you sort of having it really long and then like tucking in half of it, like the front of it, and then having the other sort of just—

Tommy: yeah, yeah. Now you're right, you're spot on. I was— I've definitely exposed the belt buckle with it.

Josh: Oh, with the middle. I could imagine you having that sort of like, um, you know, the, the buckle that would sort of close on itself. It was—

Tommy: yeah, what were they called? Ezekiel. Ezekiel was a brand that did them. Skating, they're like a skater belt. But no, not those. It was more as I got a bit older. I think there's been some looks that, you know, you're just showing sort of that belt buckle. I mean, fuck, this is getting out of my territory.

Josh: What about different eras? So the daily talk show, I like the idea of doing different eras. So we say, okay, February, we're starting merch again. The theme is '90s, and so it's all '90s style merch. Like, imagine people wear— you—

Tommy: what you want is someone— the thing is, you can't do that because you want to create something. This is—

Josh: but it's cool. Like, imagine—

Tommy: it's not— imagine like a polo from the '90s.

Josh: Fucking everything. Have you not seen them? Seriously, we've been through this. The, the Michael Jordan doco so they all look really cool.

Tommy: Literally, there's just been an article out recently, it was like the 10 worst suits worn by NBA players, and it was all the suits that were from those days.

Josh: But think about like, um, I could imagine a, um, so one thing I'll say about '90s, which I've just looked up, is it's—

Tommy: it is the young TikTok girls at the moment. Like, um, tummy exposed, uh, some sort of high-waisted jeans. That's what it is looking like. But I mean, that's not us. We're not doing tummy tops for boys.

Josh: But what about girls? What about like, um, a polo shirt that's like got a bit of sort of patches to it? Like, imagine, like, I could imagine a different type of collar. Like, so you have like one colour and then sort of a patterned collar, or you could have like a patterned, um, uh, a, uh, pocket. Yeah, it could be nice.

Tommy: Look, would you buy it if you were ever to buy merch?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I think I would. So what would— what do you think is appealing for the Daily Talk Show from a merch perspective?

Tommy: Well, it's all about finding what's— what's in at the moment.

Josh: What do you think's in?

Tommy: Well, I don't know, it's— but, but I know it's not '90s clothing necessarily. Think Will Smith, think Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Like, but it's too out there for majority of people. I'm sure there is a bunch of people that would probably saying, you're a fucking idiot, I wear '90s. Not everyone wears '90s, dude. Not everyone's wearing suspenders and shit. But what about like Princess Di?

Josh: She was— there's that new, um, there's the, uh, new show out, or like a new season, The Crown, isn't it? I think, um, Grace was talking about the new season or whatever, and we're going through all of Princess Diana's, um, clothing. She had great style, and a lot of it '90s.

Tommy: Well, she— that was in the '90s. When did she die?

Josh: Uh, 1996, I believe.

Tommy: So you're saying that was '90s, but she was in the '90s, and so that's how she was wearing fashion of the times. I'm saying that all comes around, you know, nowtimes. If you look at Princess—

Josh: So if you type in Princess Diana fashion, I'm not joking, you know, like these, um, these orange short shorts that everyone's wearing, you know, like this sort of the skin-tight sports shorts.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I mean, the hard bit is you type in any fashion stuff and it's Bringing up female fashion.

Josh: So type in Princess Diana fashion.

Tommy: Are we gonna do a range of Princess Diana inspired The Daily Dirt merch?

Josh: Like the signature will probably— The royals will come after us. If we include sort of anything relating to her, like her signature or whatever in it. But look at the fashion. She—

Tommy: good colors, like it is sick colors. These colours are in, definitely.

Josh: You can look at it, see, looking at this, I would think that she was at the fucking Polo like this year.

Tommy: She probably was, dude.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Um, there's a conspiracy. Um, but, um, yeah, she, she hasn't skipped a beat when it comes to, uh, to fashion. All of this stuff, if you look at any— that Harvard, that, that top. Yeah, with the Harvard. And she's got her cool shoes at the The white socks and the short shorts, like, this is all— this is 2020.

Tommy: What we need is a fashion advisor, a merch— a head of fashion and merch. Yeah, we need that. That's what we need. Our next hire, head of fashion and merch, which styles the team daily and also creates the merch, like at least the lookbook.

Josh: Yeah. So, we should start, like, what would happen if we sort of elevated the Daily Talk Show merch to be like Yeezys?

Tommy: Well, you, I mean—

Josh: Like that sort of, like a really sort of fashion.

Tommy: What if we go— We need to go into more debt and be absolutely out there. Like, just have crazy— Maybe some embroidery.

Josh: I think that we need some, yeah. I mean, isn't he doing okay? He's not in debt anymore, isn't he?

Tommy: No, but he was in serious, serious debt with Donda. His brand, and then—

Josh: I don't know, Donda?

Tommy: Well, yeah, that was his fashion label, Donda. Look it up, Donda Kanye West. Donda, Donda is the upcoming 10th album, studio album. Is it Donda? I can see why Kanye West had a brand and he was in serious debt, but he came out the other side. So what I'm saying is go into debt to come out the other side. Yeah, it's not advice, it's not financial advice whatsoever. Whatsoever. But no, I get it. Yeah, if you are a fashion— if you have your finger on the pulse, that's what every good, um, job description outline in a resume, as in a, uh, you know, a job pitch is like, have you got your finger on the pulse when it comes to fashion? Are you up to date with the latest trends? Are you across the Adobe Suite?

Josh: But surely we can do something where it's actually Really cool.

Tommy: I want to— I want to— what you outlined was not cool. A polo top with a patch. No one's wearing polo tops. I haven't seen someone wearing a polo top unless they're like so hip into a company.

Josh: I understand, I understand the friction, which— so what I'm thinking about when I think about who's modelling the clothes, it's Georgie Boy. And so that's the thing, I can't imagine you in a polo, but I can definitely imagine GB and Apollo.

Tommy: Yeah, I think it's more what would the Groggs— maybe we need to put out another survey. What kind of merch? It's, it's—

Josh: we all have a signature item.

Tommy: Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, so you want to have something, you want to wear it, you want to make sure that you're going to be daily wearing that thing.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so, I mean, I'd like that to take away a lot of fucking questions for me, you know, who am I? What am I doing with my life?

Josh: Signature glasses. I could do glasses or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah, get your blue, blue, blue light glasses on. Oh yeah, now you can't wear them, can you?

Josh: I could, it would just need to, um, they'll just need to be prescription. Uh, anyway guys, enjoy, enjoy the rest of your Friday. What we can say, TJ, you fired up?

Tommy: I was just saying fired up. I'm gonna eat the rest of this vanilla slice and get back to it.

Josh: It does look really good. All right, uh, enjoy your Friday night everyone, and we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one.

Tommy: See you guys.