Road Trips & Lies

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 918.

Josh: What is happening? What's going on, guys? How are we this morning?

Tommy: Uh, just, uh, was just reminded, I just looked over, my passport is actually up for renewal. I wonder how many people have passports that are currently up for renewal. And the question is Do you bother even renewing at this point?

Josh: Well, 10— I mean, if there's anything I've known, when I wanted to— when— so, do you remember when I— well, you didn't remember, you wouldn't remember, but I remember. You know that I was a stripper and then I toured around New Zealand in a stripping troupe performing in front of hundreds of ladies every single night, inflating my ego one woo at a time. Woo! Anyway, anyway, anyway, uh, I— that, that was a moment in my life where I got a, I got a phone call from the guy running that thing, and then 2 weeks I was— in 2 weeks' time I was gone. But here's the thing, I said yes without even thinking about what my passport would say, because I was like, it's New Zealand. I didn't even think, and I hadn't even been overseas in years. And so how old were you? I wasn't I was 19. I hadn't travelled overseas yet by myself. That was post. After that, I went to— did some Europe by myself. And anyway, so I'd been to Bali a few, like, years and years before that, but I had a passport. I don't even know why.

Tommy: How much were the kids' passports? Like, how long do they last?

Josh: Well, I've got one, little boaties. I think it's a 10-year. It's 10 years, really?

Tommy: But so, so if you were 11 when you were— When you got your passport, you could actually be 19 and using that same passport. Is that really true?

Josh: That seems dumb. I reckon there's— Okay, this is a gronk guess. I could imagine that like the early days, so like Bodhi got one at 2.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And I reckon he could probably have that through until like whatever. 9, because you're still a little kid at that point. But you're right, once you get to above 10 or 12, yeah, yeah, you look a lot different at 19. You've got facial hair. Yeah, you look like a thug, or you look like, you know, a prince.

Tommy: So what was left on your passport when you were 19 going to New Zealand?

Josh: Dude, it was done, like it had 3 months or something. So I was just— this is my point. I never knew that I was going to receive a call. You may get a call, Josh, asking you to be on a stripping trip and you need to be ready. You don't want to have the panic of the admin of like last minute getting express posted. I need to be there to pick it up and it's something I would do. Get it done.

Tommy: So annoying.

Josh: Just get it done. $400 or $300 or whatever it is. I mean, get it speedy delivered. Don't take the long—

Tommy: get express. Do the—

Josh: well, the thing is like you've got to go next week.

Tommy: The question is, do I— Because it expired on the 9th of November. So, it's just expired in the last 10 days. I wonder if I have to pay more fees now that it's technically expired.

Josh: Oh, I don't reckon. I mean, they've probably just got the details and you need a new photo. I reckon it's where you have to pay the difference is expedited, like speed, speed, speed.

Tommy: Well, do I have to pay for fees? Tony Lodge from One Trick Tony talked about on her show that there is a different cost if it has expired. But surely there's a grace period.

Josh: That sounds silly.

Tommy: That seems— Maybe a little bit more advanced.

Josh: Like, why though? You'd think it's just like— I mean, I want to meet the person who doesn't have a passport, has never applied.

Tommy: Oh, yeah.

Josh: Never got one, never bothered to even get one. Like, you don't need it for state-to-state travel.

Tommy: Like, I think— So, we were just talking, we were talking before the show about, Matt, we're fucking exhausted. We don't have much. This is where radio would be great because you all most— mate, do you know what I want to hear from? I want to hear from the person who doesn't. 131060, do you not, do you not have a passport?

Josh: Are you just saying that radio people are lazy?

Tommy: Because no, no, I'm saying it's a good out, isn't it? It's a good out where it's like, mate, I've got nothing. What do you, you know?

Josh: Oh no, hand it over to the listener. I tell you where you won't be going is America, I don't think, anytime soon. Have you seen the— New Mexico has locked down for 2 weeks now, like full lockdown again. Which is just a state. It's a fair few people there, but I know, I know, you know, follow him on Instagram, an actor. Um, Frank, living there, Frank Grillo. He's filming a film. Did you say filming a film? He's doing a film. Do you say doing a film or filming a film? It doesn't sound right to say filming a film.

Tommy: I've been filming, I've been filming, uh, he's, he's filming a—

Josh: he's in a film that he's filming in New Mexico.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And this guy's locked in his hotel room. And he's talking about, you know, when the state locks down, when the gyms are closed, do you stop training? No, you keep grinding. You turn your hotel room into a gym. He's just, he's the— Frank Grillo, he's, you might know him out of like Captain America. He's the lead of Kingdom, which is that show. We had Julian Haig on our pod on Screenplay Sunday last week, and he had a t-shirt on that said Navy Street. Said, fuck yeah, dude, that's a Navy Street t-shirt, which is Frank Grillo's character from Animal— from, sorry, Kingdom. He owns a gym called Navy Street. Navy Street, Navy Street.

Tommy: And it's on Netflix. It's on, uh, it's in Venice, isn't it? On Venice Beach.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like set in Venice. But, um, Frank Grillo is 55. He's the most ripped, lean, cool 55-year-old you've seen. It's crazy. He's so impressive, like his rig is so impressive and he just grinds and trains a lot. So, but anyway, I saw that and I was like, oh my fucking God, they're closing down again. LA, 10 PM curfew again. I feel like we're going into the summer and it feels very open now. Like it feels like we're just, we're doing nothing but opening in the state of Victoria, especially because we've had the whole year just doing sweet FA. And so That's the reality though, right? It's like they came out, they had their summer, and now we're going into our summer. I just really hope it doesn't happen next year. Like, we'll be fine, but I just hope it doesn't happen.

Tommy: South Australia has gone into a few days, what, 6 days or something lockdown?

Josh: Have they announced that? Have they?

Tommy: Yeah. What, did you have an insider? Oh, did they tell everyone? Did they? Well, I'm not too sure.

Josh: I saw an article that said epidemiologist Josh Janssen is advising a 6-day lockdown to kerb this spread. So at that point, it'd just been like advised that that is what will help it. 6 days. I don't know how they fucking get these numbers.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: 6 days. And so if it's— it makes sense.

Tommy: I mean, there's something about a little break, like 6 days.

Josh: It'd be nice. Yeah, a little holiday. Yeah, I could do with a little cute little 6 days. Or there was people that went to a pizza shop between the 14th and the 16th of this month or something like that. And they've been told, anyone who went to this pizza shop, stay inside for 14 days. You literally have to quarantine for 14 days. Went for pizza, got a 2-week holiday.

Tommy: It's the Domino's deal. Get 1 pizza, stay home 14 days.

Josh: Yeah, 1 for 14. 1 pizza for 14 days.

Tommy: That actually sounds really good. I wonder if the pizza place is doing some sort of deal where you actually get delivery. Yeah, yeah, use the coupon code stuck inside for $5 pizzas. That's not a bad idea.

Josh: For a 19% discount, COVID-19.

Tommy: That's clever.

Josh: But yeah, it's— I mean, I feel like we're on the— we're not even thinking about that here, really.

Tommy: Feels great. Are you thinking about your holidays yet? Have you Are you going to Sydney? Have you locked that in?

Josh: Going, yep. Driving up to Sydney. This is a sort of— It's become the— I mean, people sort of say, "Oh my God, you're driving." It's like, yeah, it's much easier with a family in a car, just having everything loaded and just hit the road. 4 hours, 5 and a half hours to Joogeeong, stay there and then drive the 3 and a half, 4 hours the next day, which is nice. But it feels like a family.

Tommy: Maybe use the fancy recycle machine that you used last time.

Josh: Mate, I might take a few bottles up, you get my 10 cents per bottle.

Tommy: But is that legal to do that? Buying in Victoria and that, you know, you see like if in South Australia, are you legally able to take the ones that you bought in Victoria and then claim your 10 cents? Good point. I don't know. 5 cents, whatever it is.

Josh: I don't know. I mean, it's a big effort just to get either the option is you receive 10 cents or a 10-cent towards a Woolworths voucher. Like, you can build it up so it gives you a credit at a supermarket, which is great.

Tommy: Well, the pizza shop down here at Rita's Pizza in Abbotsford, on the side of their box, if you return the box, you get a dollar credit.

Josh: Interesting, because I did see a guy walking towards a pizza shop recently that had about 4 or 5 boxes. He was going the wrong way. If he'd just received them. And I know that he, because I was waiting for my pizza, I went back and he's then waiting for his. Either he's being a sweetheart.

Tommy: No, I think he's probably just keeping the boxes and the tamas. Cash cow.

Josh: It's his, um, $5. He wants his $5 cred on the pizza. I mean, I feel like that's an initiative by the pizza shop, if anything.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Not like, 'cause they have, they're not gonna use them again. They'll just dispose of them appropriately. I mean, let's talk about pizza boxes for one moment before I get back to Sydney. What is the deal? Can you put them into the bin or the recycle bin? I mean, you're not the guy to really ask.

Tommy: You can put it in the recycle bin.

Josh: You can? What about, I remember if it was oily, there was something about oily pizza boxes.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.

Josh: Recycle bins, you know that?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I don't know. I mean, Usually if they're papery, like the hipster joints are usually kind of like, they feel very cardboardy. I go recycle. I think, I like to think that 2020 where we have technology, I mean, you can have a phone, you can do everything.

Tommy: Cut to some guy fucking separating the shit. Oh no, he's put another. Like, I don't know, I don't know what the tech is that I think it's literally people with a conveyor belt going. I'm sure that When I was in school, they like show you the disgusting things they find in the recycling bin.

Josh: Really? Just like grog moves, people putting food. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's horrible. Anyway. Yeah, I've been thinking about the drive. It is kind of like, it's weird how you can convince yourself that something has become like a family ritual that like a 10-hour drive.

Tommy: Which is quite toxic.

Josh: Is actually, I'm excited about it. It's actually very fucking horrible. No, I think it's fun.

Tommy: I remember like as a kid, like going to places like Marimbula or you do the big drive. You have like the big thing is I'll just be nagging for the lollies and Mum was like the lolly police and she was always like, "Oh, you want like it? Okay, well." You know, just all those types of games, psychological games.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. I like, I like, there's something about getting up early, the car's packed and you hit the road. It's kind of quiet on the roads. What about music? Well, the challenge is you can't— you put music on, you get the kid fired up, then he wants his music. And so it's always about starting. It's built— you start at the bottom, nothing. You start nothing, and then you go radio, and then it's okay, we're only doing talking. Like, it's just radio at the moment. He knows that. So you try and go talkback, and then he just kind of looks out the window, and we kind of enjoy it. This is how you get— this is, I reckon, how older people get into talkback radio. Because they're trying to fucking prevent the kid in the back saying, I want bloody, you know, this music.

Tommy: Can I give you a strategy that could work? What about if you were to say, hey Bodhi, this is before, before you even get in the car, you say, mate, we've just updated the car, it's awesome. You'll notice, you'll notice it feels a bit more comfortable, right? It feels nicer. But the one thing is some of the music stuff has changed. And so, we're a bit limited with the music that we can play. So, we can either just have silence the whole time or we can play Daddy's music and that's the only thing. What do you want to do?

Josh: I mean, this is what we do. I give him the options. Daddy's music or nothing. Which one? He always goes Daddy's music if that's the case.

Tommy: And so, why don't you— But like if you actually— So, in the moment, It's this heightened thing. It seems like you're just thinking on your feet. If you actually— What about if you said to Bodhi today, Bodhi, the car's going in for a service today. And what that one worry that they have is that the music might change. But the good thing is it's going to be a comfortable ride. It's going to be a more comfortable ride.

Josh: I mean, you're a big liar.

Tommy: But that might lie. But also there was the— A breeze just asked me, do I want an iced or a hot? Coffee. I think I want iced, to be honest. It's gonna be 33 degrees today. Yeah, in Melbourne.

Josh: The—

Tommy: Now, I remember as a kid there were like on the side of the car, there were these little holes. It was almost like— It looks like buttons, but I think what it was was little caps for where the screws were.

Josh: And—

Tommy: Oh, yes.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And the thing was that we created a storey that if you press the button, it was like speed booster. And so, you press it and then you'd pretend like the car was going like going fast. Kids have big imaginations.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, he's actually, because we haven't done the drive for a year, we haven't driven out of the state in a year based on COVID. We, the, he's actually able to play more games now. Let's look for things. Let's do a, what's that game? I Spy with My Little Eye. Something beginning with.

Tommy: I mean, the thing is COVID is such a hard thing to understand what it is. Could you say, look, we're restricted with the music, with everything that's happening with COVID Dan Andrews has said that we can only play Elton John and Queen.

Josh: There is an issue with— Oh my God, last time I drove up, I was so annoyed. I'd somehow flicked my phone into, you know, swipe down top right, you can you can hit the— it looks like a little audio, like a signal button.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And the signal turns on. I don't know what it— what's it doing?

Tommy: What's it turning off? Data thing? Hang on, let me have a look.

Josh: It must be turning off mobile data.

Tommy: Yep.

Josh: Yeah, so it turns off. I fucking turned this off somehow while driving, just like fiddling with my phone, and then I didn't touch it and I turned it off. I wasn't receiving calls because we were out of reception driving up the Hume, couldn't play music or podcast.

Tommy: Can you download Download stuff, I think go on to Spotify. Yeah. Download a bunch of playlists to your phone. No issue.

Josh: It's a great idea. It is a great idea.

Tommy: What about a mix of music? What about like a playlist where it actually, do you think that Bodhi would be able to handle switching between your music and his music? Or if he hears your music. So, it's—

Josh: Okay. So, we've got mummies, daddies, Bodhis.

Tommy: And what would be the difference? So, like what's— Amy's music like?

Josh: Oh, John Mayer into, um, and then to you, you know, and then, and maybe into, say, if Bodhi gets the middle, Spider-Man.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And then back to me, maybe Drake.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so it's quite a Jack Johnson, Bob the Builder, Kanye. Yeah, exactly. But then Bodhi does like Kanye, and I have no problem with him listening to Kanye West's late Excited enough, it's his latest, Jesus Is King, because there's no swearing in it and he gets right around it. It's great, it's great.

Tommy: So what, like, so maybe they're looking for playlists. I'm thinking about, is there a playlist organising afternoon that you could have where it's like, okay, we're going to sit down as a family, maybe Amy can play all of her tracks and Bodhi has to pick his favourite from her bunch.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so you end up with this ultimate ultimate sort of, um, playlist.

Josh: There is— that is a good idea, the blend. And so we— it's not— you just— it's on and it will rotate between all of our vibes. I do like that.

Tommy: Silence is a bit— I mean, like, the idea of just like, okay, for the first half an hour there's just silence.

Josh: No, I like it. There's something about waking up in the morning. I've got no interest in blaring music on a road trip first thing in the morning unless it's heading off to, you know, a bucks party.

Tommy: I think I would. I do like playing tunes loud. Like, I would sort of get fired up.

Josh: And so just, it is about easing in. It's what's the energy? What energy does that bring? It brings a, like, a fired up energy, which you don't with a child. It's always you— the fired up energy is inevitable. They will be fired up. They are like a fucking pulled back elastic band ready to snap any moment.

Tommy: And so maybe something, uh, so classical, I guess, is— oh, what about like, um, Ludovico Einaudi is great, the pianist.

Josh: I, yeah, I mean, you've got yours. Music is— this is the thing, music is very personal.

Tommy: So talk, do you all agree on what sort of talk you like to listen to?

Josh: Oh, as in talkback or like, yeah, or podcasts?

Tommy: Or, well, you're gonna listen to Joe Rogan? Yeah, sometimes.

Josh: I mean, yeah, Amy likes, um, Dax Shepard. Oh yeah, he was on my podcast just recently.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So it'll be nice to sort of have a blend of that, and then Bodhi just sort of tunes out at that point. The thing is, you just don't like Amy's boss has screens in the back of the actual seats and he's told the kids they're broken. And I get it. It's a good idea because it's crack. Once you realise the screen works in the back, you ain't going back.

Tommy: Were there many lies that you were told as a kid? One that I remember is when I was doing a VCA film when I was— So, I did like a teen, like school holiday programme type of thing. And, uh, I would have been 15, and I said, um, I need dry ice. And Dad said, you need a licence to have dry ice. And so I remember having to organise a smoke machine, um, subpar. And yeah, but then also many years— yeah, many years later, telling people, oh no, we can't do it. Fuck, it would be so good to be able to get dry ice. Can we get someone licenced to come in with it, and it's just all bullshit. Richard Jansen just didn't want to go to Bok or whatever it was called and pick up the dry ice. So annoying.

Josh: Such an innocent lie.

Tommy: But it stuck with you, you know.

Josh: I mean, the thing is, you think innocent lies aren't going to be the ones that stick. It's the big, big ticket lies that you think are going to have the impact. But you've like a second family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which it turned out to be true. It was crazy.

Tommy: What's the, um, yeah, no, what were some of the lies when you were a kid that you remember?

Josh: I cannot, I cannot remember being lied to. I mean, I can't, I, I mean, I, I got pretty, I got a pretty free rein.

Tommy: My parents would always bullshit on the time, so then you said when Dan Andrews was doing all of the lockdown stuff I was thinking it through the sort of perspective of how my parents operated, which is like they'll say the date, but they're all— or day, they're always putting buffer into everything, right? So, if we had to leave the house at 2:30, they told me that we're leaving the house at 2:00 because then they knew that I would be ready for 2:30. And there's so many examples of that, like even When it comes to like, at the moment, the— like, I'm just so impatient. This bike that I've ordered, it's, um, you know, it could take up to 10 days, but then it says up to, up to 10 days.

Josh: Set the expectation.

Tommy: Yeah, then so up to 10 days, and then they say, because I've paid for the install, they say once it's arrived at the place that does the install, they'll be in contact and you have to book in a time for them to come and set the bike up. But they said, yeah, that can take anywhere between 7 and 10 days. So what you're talking about here is the potential 20-day wait for my bike. And I'm just— I struggle.

Josh: Did— I mean, you, you've paid, so you've, you've—

Tommy: they didn't say this beforehand. No.

Josh: Yeah, so that's what I was going to ask. When did you work out the 10-day delivery?

Tommy: And when I got an email once I'd paid for it all, and they're like, okay, here's email.

Josh: And so, but you've got to have a good product for people to buy without knowing that stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, well, the thing is, it was in stock. Like, so if you go to any other site, they're out of stock. So there's a part of me where it's like, I reckon there's a 50% chance I'm going to buy this thing and they're going to say we don't actually have stock.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, mate.

Tommy: I'm just glad I didn't wait until sort of like the, um, Black Friday, Cyber Monday stuff.

Josh: Oh, it's going to be gone. That's next week, right?

Tommy: And a lot of the places are already doing— I think that they'd already put in their discount well and truly before the actual sale. Like, if you go onto websites, you're already seeing these sales happening.

Josh: I went and tried to get a pair of shoes yesterday and—

Tommy: You're very happy with yourself, weren't you?

Josh: Well, I ended up leaving because I was like, this is bullshit. The majority of shoe shops don't have size 12 or 13. And so it got to a point where I'm like—

Tommy: What's their reasoning?

Josh: They're just sold out or people have bought them. Like, they've got always got smaller sizes. Maybe they stock more 9s, 10s, 8s, like smaller feet. But—

Tommy: Don't you think there's more bigger feet in the world than there are smaller though?

Josh: Nah.

Tommy: What do you think the sweet spot is?

Josh: Smaller. I reckon it's like a 9 or a 10. 10 for sure, for sure. You know, this— yeah, definitely around the 10 mark would be the sweet spot.

Tommy: What were you like?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, Adidas, Nike. Um, it's— I knew there is some shoes that I could have found the size for, but the ones that you want never have them. And so it got to a point where I'm like, the question I just said is, then what shoe do you have in 12? Because it's, it's, that's— they actually, they're so focused on just like, so what else, what else? It's like, no, you actually need to then work and bring some shoes to me that are 12.

Tommy: I didn't—

Josh: and they're all—

Tommy: it's all like that. I could imagine that would have been like the medical, it would have been ones like fix a limp, you know, like it's like, oh yeah, it's— you can't tell.

Josh: Got real foot problems. Yeah, I mean, it's big feet problems. I mean, that's not even that big. Imagine having 15s. Yeah, just—

Tommy: Well, this is even— I was saying to Pete Sheppard, I was pumped about my bike. I was asking Bri what her height was. I have no idea, um, what her height is, but I think, um, I think the bike—

Josh: 5'4"?

Tommy: Yes, I think she said like 5-something. Yeah, but it was— the bike is, um, rated for 5'1" to 6'3". I'm 6'2".

Josh: Perfect.

Tommy: So it's like perfect. But I was saying to Pete Sheppard, I'm like, Mate, you couldn't get one if you wanted one, like, because you don't want it like— Yeah, you don't want to be modding the thing. You could tell that that would be a shit experience. But, um, but yeah, Bree's in that range, I think. So, which is—

Josh: I don't know how I'm gonna— This happened last year. I know this is the thing, I actually just— I really don't enjoy shoe shopping.

Tommy: What about online? Do you know your size enough?

Josh: No, because the shoes are all changing, they're narrow, you know. So, if you've got a fat foot I mean, you've deleted any other option. You just go one shoe by multiples.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, I get that, but I want style.

Tommy: Yeah. Well, which is hard because they do go like, I've got a fat foot. I have to get the E, like sometimes they have like a different sort of letter at the end, which signifies that you've got a fat foot.

Josh: Well, so, some of the Adidas there's like, you can go one style different, but they look very similar, completely different fit. And so anyway, I'll, um, might see, might see if I can get Black Saturday, Black Friday. Have you ever— was the bushfires in Melbourne? Yeah, yeah, that's no good.

Tommy: The, um, sale, not a sale. The, uh, have you ever been a shoe guy? Have you ever had a lot of shoes?

Josh: Yeah, man, I've had heaps of shoes in the past. I spent so much money on shoes when I was a young fuckwit. Yeah, now I'm an old one, but it was just it at that time, you know. Nikes, Converse, so many, so many pairs of shoes. I reckon I've had maybe like, I mean, for me it was a lot for me, like 7, 8 pairs at one point.

Tommy: You can only wear 2 pairs, 1 pair at a time. That's why I'm like with everything, like I'd prefer less high quality, like, so less but at a higher quality. Than lots. But the funny thing is when people go lots, they still go high quality. They're just spending a lot of money. I feel like, yeah, even bags and stuff. You hear people having a lot of bags.

Josh: If I had bucket loads of cash, I would have a shoe. Shoes.

Tommy: So interesting, because I was wondering this. It's like, if you had heaps of cash, where would you allocate it? What would be a few things that you would do where you would just spend more money than the average person if you had heaps of cash?

Josh: Shoes. Yeah, I'd have heaps of shoes, I reckon.

Tommy: You would?

Josh: Yeah, because I've just trained myself not to think like that, but I can easily get to there thinking like that. Like just having a wardrobe that just has shoes, and so I can just put on every day. Different pair. I would, I would.

Tommy: I think I would if, if it was a— if I had a lot of options. But there's something about being a shoe guy, if you have a like a big wide foot, it's very annoying because like you're the shoe guy but you've only got the sort of medical shoes. Like you're the shoe guy in the, the wide foot. It's not going to look— as you said, smaller shoes look like they just look just like, oh my God, where are we? Like, looks like a, um, at a bowling alley, you know, everyone puts their shoes or whatever when they get in. This doesn't look good.

Josh: I'd buy a pair of bowling shoes if I had the money, if I had 40 other pairs.

Tommy: Yeah, you do basketball shoes? I like— so when I was a kid, yeah, I remember my, um, mum saying, because they'd spend fucking $100 or whatever on shit, like, that seemed like such a lot of—

Josh: like, it was a lot of money back then.

Tommy: Back there, $110 or whatever on shoes. Yeah, I just remember my mum sitting us down and saying, if you tell anyone, anyone how much your shoes cost, you lose them, you don't get them anymore. And because there were kids, there was kids in schools where you'd like, you have— because it is a big purchase, you get these shoes, you're rocking around going, yeah, look at my shoes, they're $110. Um, but no, so I appreciate that. I think that was a good quali— all the lying that they did, one of the redeeming factors was, uh, not being a wanker when it comes to—

Josh: And you didn't, you stuck to the no telling.

Tommy: Yeah, I stuck to it because I think that they connect. It's like, you are so lucky that you have these. There's like, there'd be heaps of kids that would love to have these, but they can't. So, you know, you don't be flashy about them, you don't tell people about them, you just wear them.

Josh: I mean, it's not because one could think that because they're going to get stolen, you know, it might have been in school. I went down, I visited a mate in prison and he was telling me, I was looking at his shoes and he's like, yeah, they've banned Nike and Adidas here in the jail because it's literally school, isn't it?

Tommy: The jail, you literally get, oh, 100% fines over Tarzos.

Josh: Literally, who fucking stole my marble?

Tommy: He killed my fucking Tamagotchi.

Josh: Juice boxes, it's all that.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, fart bombs. Anyway, uh, crap. All right, well, uh, no reviews from yesterday. You know, I said I'd read some out. None.

Josh: I can't even remember that.

Tommy: Yeah, Apple Podcasts, go on there, give us a review if you can.

Josh: Um, yeah, that'd be nice. It would be nice. Something nice through, 5 stars only.

Tommy: Thank you. 5 stars. You said I sounded like an Uber driver at this point.

Josh: As if Grubhub driver ever told you 5 stars only.

Tommy: No, they just say 5 stars.

Josh: 5 stars.

Tommy: Funny though, 5 stars only, that was good. 5 stars. All right, great guys, enjoy your Thursday, enjoy the sunny weather if you're in Melbourne. If you're anywhere else in the world, hope you're doing well and safe. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow guys, have a good one. See you guys.