Travelling With Twisted Testicles

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 814.

Tommy: Happy Fat Friday, Gronks! I just went to clap, but then I was like, it's not gonna make you clap.

Josh: I can do a little applause for you.

Tommy: Yeah, do a clap. I want 1,000 people clapping. There we go. Do you reckon—

Josh: how many people do you think are actually applauding in that sound effect?

Tommy: Uh, far out. I wonder. It's, it's probably one person that's laid it a thousand times.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Um, today's Fat Friday and I've already, uh, I've already launched, I've already launched.

Josh: What are you, um, yeah, because I, I know that you were saying that you'd organise something and so I've organised something for myself. What have you organised for you?

Tommy: I was panicking that you thought that I'd said that I was organizing.

Josh: Yeah, so I'm expecting some frozen chocolate eclairs. Can we just very quickly talk about the last time that we could, the last meal that we had or that you dropped off to me? I asked for a chocolate mousse from Nando's. Yep. Yep. And enjoyed my meal. I had the halloumi burger. I told you about it. You had it too. What'd you think, by the way?

Tommy: Oh, mate, real good. I mean, chicken and then halloumi. When you always used to get it, I used to think you were going, just this halloumi burger. And I was like, okay, sure. But then it has both. It's a double whammy.

Josh: Anyway, so—

Tommy: It's amazing. It's amazing.

Josh: Tommy got me the chocolate mousse. I was very fired up. And as I go to open it and I put my spoon in it, it was fucking frozen.

Tommy: So, I'll just tell you. Hang on. Last Friday. Can you believe that it's Friday again? Like, it has gone so fast for being at home. Like, I feel like it's extra speedy in isolation. It's bizarre. Anyway, last week you got your frozen profiteroles or chocolate eclairs, whatever one you want.

Josh: Or chocolate eclairs.

Tommy: And you were pissed. And I thought you were going to get pissed because there wasn't going to be a chocolate because they said there's a variety pack, which doesn't promise any flavours. It's just whatever we have. But you were pissed because they were frozen. Anyway, got to Nando's. Ordered. I said, do you have the mousse? Because they don't always have it. They're not sort of like spruiking the mousse, but it's one of the best mousses in the business. Jack Post, one of his favourites.

Josh: Oh, yeah. Mousse from Nando's.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. He loves it. That's a good restaurant. I love it, too. It's got little chocolatey bits in it. Anyway, they're not all— I don't think this, you know, mousse is flying out the door at Nando's. It's not what they're known for.

Josh: I would have thought that it would have been doing really well at the moment with everything that's happening. I think the people need to know the unit.

Tommy: Unit movements on moose. Anyway, and so I said to him, do you have moose? And he's like, yeah, I've just taken some out of the freezer. And so obviously it's a product that you can freeze, you put into the fridge. So, it's like they can last a lot longer and you can put into the fridge and then it thaws out and then you're buying the thawed out moose. It's still cold at that point. But he said, I've got some frozen ones. I can just— Do you want those? They'll be good in 15 minutes. And I just thought, I usually probably would have just said, oh, nah, because I'm going to eat in probably 10 minutes.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I just thought about the guy that got angry at his frozen eclairs. And so I was like, this is beautiful. I'm not going to tell him. Well, you didn't.

Josh: It wasn't even like, oh, there's your chocolate mint. Like, you just— It was just business as usual.

Tommy: It was business as usual until you beat me eating the burger and you got straight to your moves and you're like, what the fuck, is this frozen?

Josh: You're pretty happy about that. And so I thought it was the funniest thing ever because it's—

Tommy: I was like, mate, it's you.

Josh: And so what have you organised for yourself for Fat Fridays?

Tommy: Well, I've already had it. I woke up this morning very early, did a little bit of work, and then got Bodhi up. Well, he's already up upstairs, and he came down with Mama and we made pancakes. Big stack. You can see our stack on our Instagram, The Daily Talk Show. But, um, yeah, we were— yeah.

Josh: And so what do you put on the pancakes, man?

Tommy: I'm just a syrup guy. I'm just a more syrup than one would need, but that is me. Amy, Amy goes minimal syrup. I go maximum syrup. And Amy, when she's dipping— no ice cream, too early. I know it's Fat Friday, but come on, mate, it's 6 weeks, it's a long iso, so it will go real bad. But Amy's the type that has a little bit of dip on her crackers, and I go a lot of dip. Like, I think there's a little dip, lot of dip. Yeah, a lot of syrup. Not a lot of syrup person, and I'm the too much syrup.

Josh: I get it. Well, sauces. I feel like you'd put a lot of sauce on things.

Tommy: Definitely, definitely. Like a Big Mac pie, I'm not just having— I'm pissed if I've got a little squirt on there. Yeah, at least a smiley face with a nose. If it's gonna be like— it can't just be two little— two eyes and smiley. It's like a big cheesy grin plus two big eyeballs and a schnoz in the middle.

Josh: I get that. My mum used to write my name on my sausage rolls. With sauce.

Tommy: Oh, that's cute.

Josh: That is Joshua.

Tommy: Anyway, so what have you— no, I want the UA.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: What is, um, what have you supposed to organize?

Josh: Well, there's two elements. I told Bree this morning, I said it's Fat Fridays, but I've also, um, sort of, you know, wanting to dial things back as well.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So Bree said, how about I get you a, um, a mocker As a coffee.

Tommy: Oh, not tea.

Josh: So, I'm getting a mocha. Bree's bringing it back. She's currently masked outside doing that. But then the other thing I thought is I'm not drinking enough water. Now, you might shut this down. You might shut this down. But I filled my 2-litre bottle of water and I thought, wouldn't it be great for me to finish the whole bottle? Before the end of the show.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't mind that, um, because that's not the annoying one. The other one that—

Josh: No, this is the annoying one.

Tommy: Oh no.

Josh: So I— Well, I don't know if you'd be able to hear it.

Tommy: How many workplaces—

Josh: Here we go.

Tommy: How many workplace blow-ups have happened from this? There's something that just pisses me off about that sound.

Josh: Could you hear the whistling?

Tommy: I could hear the whistling a lot, but that's— I mean, that's around the office, you just hear this, this guy who—

Josh: Well, you thought that I would— I drunk more, I would sip more when I was stressed. That's what you were saying.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, so when you're in your head. Yes, yes, yes. Uh, I don't think it's happened that much. It was more when we used to have blow-ups and, uh, oh yeah, well done, um, thank you, Breezer. When you— when you're— when we're sort of in the middle of something and we're having a conversation and I've obviously fucking flipped you off and you're pissed and you're thinking, you're not talking much, but you're thinking and you just, you're sipping every 3 seconds. It's just almost becomes a tick. And then what then pisses me off is the sound of it.

Josh: Yeah. So then that becomes your tick. Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: I'm just like, oh, it's so bizarre.

Josh: Anyway, I, um, so you get, I, I like that.

Tommy: I've got the water thing, but I want you to try and get through it.

Josh: Yeah, I wanted to get through the whole 2 litres, but then I was— I reminded myself of a, of a, um, something that happened in the US. Do you remember this?

Tommy: No, what happened?

Josh: Radio station.

Tommy: What happened?

Josh: 10 fired after radio contest tragedy. So, there was a competition of who could drink like most amount of water and a woman died on air.

Tommy: Oh, really?

Josh: Yeah, 2007.

Tommy: How much water did she— Can you— How much did she— I reckon it would have had to been up like the 10 litre mark.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: For something bad to go wrong, happen.

Josh: How did it work? Do you know what the contest was called? Oh, this is actually quite sad.

Tommy: What is it called?

Josh: So, here you go. During the contest, participants were given 2 minutes to drink 8— an 8-ounce bottle of water and then given another bottle to drink after a 10-minute break. The contest— 8 ounces.

Tommy: I don't know how much that is.

Josh: So, 8 ounces. You can look it up. The contest was called hold your Wii for a Wii. Oh, Wii for a Wii. Nintendo Wii.

Tommy: She died because she was trying to win a Wii.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, it's fucking— oh man, it is sad. Um, nah, the game console retails for about $250. Oh my God, you don't think— you don't think that you're gonna fucking die from drinking too much water.

Tommy: Imagine if you had in your mind where you wouldn't do the competition like that, where you're like, at some stage in probably 5 or 6 years, there will be a Wee left out for rubbish collection, and it probably still works.

Josh: You know, like, it's—

Tommy: I mean, everything, any consumer product will be once on the lawn. You know, I used to think that about Plasma tellies, and the LCDs now, but when they used it, when they came out, I was like, oh, imagine seeing those, because you'd always see the big rear projection shitboxes, huge things. Like, people would build, uh, people would cut into their wall to put through, to slide in the rear projection.

Josh: Would they really?

Tommy: Like the big plasmas? Yeah.

Josh: What houses were you going to? That sounds posh.

Tommy: Some pretty affluent ones, but it's like, that's Think about what you're needing to do for a television.

Josh: They've got a whole nother room for the rear bit. Sorry, Johnny, you've lost half your bedroom because you're back onto the lounge room. How do you actually do that?

Tommy: Mate, building. I mean, it's rich people that are probably doing it, or crafty people that know how to build. Yeah, there's plenty of people on YouTube. Plenty of people on YouTube. I've been looking on YouTube at the moment, just had a had to knock up a few things. This is for, um, something that I sort of flagged yesterday that I can't talk too much about.

Josh: This is the $50, but it's coming.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, spent 50 bucks on the company card for something that will be rolled out within this ISO period of— it's a project I'm working on and it requires— this is the second hint— requires construction, which you probably could have gauged from the first hint, which was I got it from Bunnings.

Josh: Yeah, no, Makes sense.

Tommy: Very, very similar tips.

Josh: Are you going to need to use power tools?

Tommy: Definitely, yeah, definitely. My next-door neighbours are Chippy, uh, got a whole bunch of power tools, but I'm trying to limit— like, I want to, I want to see if I can do it myself. I want to see if I can sort of complete the project or at least get it sort of 90% there, where I just may need some, some power tool assistance. Just to—

Josh: Do you have an announcement date of when this is happening?

Tommy: It's a good point. I reckon it's, it's a weekend, it's a weekender, and I reckon not next weekend, but the— so I need 2 weekends to complete it. And so by, I don't know, the following Monday, I don't know that date, but it'll be like mid-August, it'll be rolled out. And, uh, there's another hint, it will be rolled out.

Josh: I know exactly what it is.

Tommy: You don't know what it is?

Josh: I fucked it. No, no, no, you've actually just fucked it.

Tommy: No, no, no, no, no, just keep it, keep it to yourself because then we'll see. Just hold it and see if you can get it when it comes out. On the day you get to guess.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: On the day you get to guess, just before we roll it out.

Josh: Okay. All right. See, that's the problem. I would have just fucking, if I felt like I knew the answer a year ago, I would have just blurted it out.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, 17th of August it will be rolled out. Okay, 17th of August, that's good to know. It's quite soon.

Josh: I've noticed as I've gotten off sort of social media on my phone, I'm not knowing what to do. So it seems weird. Yeah, it just seems weird, like I wake up in the morning and I'm in bed and I've got my phone. I ended up going to people's fucking websites. I was on Kevin Rose's web, like, just looking at people's actual blogs, like reading blogs. Um, yeah.

Tommy: And so this is why they have those sites, hopefully.

Josh: Yeah. So people— I mean, we have a website. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People go to websites. Websites. Are you on your phone going to websites?

Tommy: No, no, no. Didn't we have this convo? As in, I was like, who goes to website? Who goes to website? Sites. Yeah, to you. So there's two things that— what— so what is— if, if that is what you're saying now, what's the value in a website?

Josh: So the value is you will Google things. So for instance, you'll, you'll, um, uh, you'll search up stuff and then you might land on things, right? So for instance, you might be trying to find a specific thing an answer, and it's great having a website for that. But yeah, the actual mechanism of someone going to a website— so someone going to thedailytalkshow.com is just their daily check-in to see what's happening on the website— feels like an early 2000s thing. And now it feels like what ends up happening. But it's not saying you shouldn't have a website. We can then have like this long tail of information. So if someone looks up one of our guests, they can find about— find out about the show.

Tommy: I saw a guy, uh, write on LinkedIn, you know, thought leader vibes, just like, um, here's why not to waste your money on building a website or something like that. And so, oh, it's the most expensive showreel you'll ever build, or the most expensive CV you'll ever have. But I think the bit that's missed the mark there is that, yeah, maybe if you just think it's going to do everything for you, or if you literally just think a million people are going to visit it, but it's a longer play. There's more thought that's required.

Josh: But then also you have to think, you have to think about, are people trying to search? Like, what will people search to try and find us? So if you type in like Australian Daily Podcast or whatever into Google, we are number one. There's probably a few people who discover it, like even though it seems weird, there's a— there'd be a bunch of people who it's like, oh, click on, I know this guest, and they click through that, and before you know it, they're a grunt.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so there is— it's that play. Um, so what are the sites I used to go to? E-Beams World.

Josh: E-Beams.

Tommy: It's a kid. Yeah, real like e-beams. E-B-E-A-U-M-S. Oh yeah, e-b-a-u-m-s.

Josh: Funny pictures. They're all the same. So I used to go on jokefrog.com, which is very similar to that, which was like, um, you had animated GIFs.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, it's now, um, Oh, this is dodgy. Yeah, don't click on, um, joke.com. They've now—

Tommy: well, back in the day, eBims— well, this would have been— this was before social media, and they've— it's a, it's a Reddit vibe. There's just videos of random shit, um, just blog post articles that have videos. And so, but then there was games as well. There's some— I mean, I'm just looking through the video section on the side, but I'm still— you know what, the— here's the problem. I have exp— I have watched a whole bunch of these videos that they're putting up here through YouTube. And so then YouTube has taken bed and curated for me this experience of what Eben's world is doing.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: So that's—

Josh: I mean, so what can I do on my phone that when I wake up in the morning, what are some productive things that I could do?

Tommy: Yeah, a productive thing, a meditation with your phone that's got the app. I mean, you don't read books on your phone, but podcast in the morning, something nice, something to get your day started. That's all good.

Josh: But there seems something weird about it. The weather? Yeah, like I was on the news and I'm even broadening out, like I go The Age, news.com.au, The New York Times, the LA Times. I'm just— any other times?

Tommy: That's a rotation. Nah, nah, I think that's it. But what about— so that's— I think you've mentioned the obvious because I think that's like news, but then social media you've taken off the table. But what if you were to do something different, like send 3 texts every morning?

Josh: Yeah, that's a good idea.

Tommy: People that you love. Yeah. And so it's actually just you think about something to say to somebody that's not work related, it's just something it's using the old school device for what it's meant for, communication, but not relating to work because it's early, it's earlier in the morning. Like, um, yeah, I don't know, you could, yeah, just start sort of— it's message your mom, message, uh, message 97, tell him that you love him.

Josh: I've got it. Yeah, there's heaps of people I need to message. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Tommy: I like that. Like, so get through the list because I think that friendships require effort. I think some people just think that friendships are effortless and that you're always going to be with your besties. But like you and I, Josh, we spend more time together than with some of my friends that I've had for many, many, many years. And I— and those other friendships require more effort because we're not, you know, working together daily, we're not, you know, in business together. And so I think that would be like a 10— what's a cute little sort of benchmark for a white little life? Yeah, yeah, like the 10-minute whip around or like the 3, you know, the project 5 Bullet Friday or like, you know, do you know what, I don't know if you've ever had this feeling. 3 Text Tuesday.

Josh: Yeah, I like that. I mean, I don't know if this has ever happened to you, but the awesome feeling of forgetting one of your really good friends and then they just pop into your mind and you're like, oh, fuck yeah, you know what I mean?

Tommy: What, forgetting that they existed?

Josh: Or like, just forget, like, it's like, oh, fuck yeah, I haven't spoken to them in 6 weeks.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, that's great. Yeah, fuck, that's such an easy call that I can make. It's gonna feel great.

Tommy: I think what you're experiencing is probably what you get off social media, because if you're, if you're on there, so someone comes to mind, Talis. Good buddy of mine, he spotted, um, I think it was Georgie Boy walking, and he said, hey, you're Georgie Boy, aren't they? You know, from the Daily Talk Show. George, George is like, oh my God, got noticed. But then he's like, oh, I'm Tommy's mate, say hi to Tommy. But I like, I haven't seen him in ages, but I see his content, I see bits and pieces, and so I'm like, I feel connected, but it's not connected in the right way. It's not connected like a friend. But he is my friend. So, that's where it's like, yeah, man, that's something. I mean, I think that's a piece of advice for me too.

Josh: Yeah, it is nice to do, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, it's gonna require some form of effort.

Josh: I think text messages and iMessage is sort of on the way up. I think it's the new cool.

Tommy: What, iMessages?

Josh: Well, yeah, I just think like the just messaging people, just like back and forth, all that sort of fun.

Tommy: Texties.

Josh: What's happening?

Tommy: It's like, it's like live tweeting, to be honest. Like when you can— you and I have got some commentary going about a few things before.

Josh: Yeah, that's great.

Tommy: And it's fun. Yeah, it gets fun.

Josh: Uh, what about, um, what's happening with Instagram with this new feature? I don't know, I haven't used it. I haven't been on Instagram. Do you know what it is? It's a TikTok killer or something.

Tommy: That's how it's framed. Um, I don't even know if I've downloaded the new Insta. But I have seen it, so it's like the ability to make little videos, like with some text and shit in Instagram. I'm gonna update it, I can tell you right now. It's got, mate, this is probably the most boring. It's just more, I don't know. I mean, this is people on the bleeding edge. There'll be some guy on LinkedIn saying, here's how to optimise your fucking new function on Instagram for your business. And here's a new course to get you through. But this is the thing, it's, uh, does it even matter? Does any of it matter?

Josh: Oh yeah, I mean, um, no, but I just thought it was interesting because I saw on YouTube, because I have got YouTube on my TV, and I saw that pop up and I was thinking about when you're in it, how much you're like, oh my God, like a new thing to play with. But, um, yeah, it's called Reels. I probably know more about it than you do based on just— tell me about it. No, it just looks like it's got more creative stuff. You can bring in filters in an easier way. They're sort of like, if you swipe all the way down, you can get a bunch of, um, IG storey style filters.

Tommy: Oh yeah, here's Reels. Create with Reels. Record and edit short videos and share them to Explore where anyone may discover them. So it's like outside of your network. Yeah, so they're creating like another feed that allows people to discover beyond your followers. So before, it was like your engagement, you get pushed into other people's feeds when more people like your stuff, but it's only people who follow you, and then people who use that creepy function of seeing what their friends are looking at, which, you know, if you're in there, you're probably—

Josh: well, it's like IGTV was meant to be this big thing that sort of just did its thing, and it's like we still use it, but it's not really— it's, it's still just Instagram really at this point, isn't it?

Tommy: They have literally— I mean, this is what, uh, Zuckerberg was pushed on pretty recently about. Did you see, uh, he was like facing Congress and it was like, did you see Instagram as a threat and were you working on, uh, a similar product, copying that, you know, using their— it's basically saying, were you copying other companies that were coming up around you? Yeah, because then it's like he's sucking the blood out of them. He ended up buying Instagram. But for that, that is like— so I just did it, the Reels thing. It's got the similar layout to TikTok, so you can, you can film a bit, stop, film another bit, stop, add stuff to it. It's the exact— it's exactly TikTok in Instagram now, which isn't— I mean, I'm not that fussed about it because it means I don't have to go to TikTok and be seen as a, you know, pest. Do you think it's a bit creepy over there?

Josh: Part of the, um all of this stuff that's happening at the moment, there's, um, thought leaders or whatever you want to call them, like your Gary Vees or whatever. It's like, you know, TikTok's the next thing and this is the next thing and this is the next thing. But don't you think that, um, it feels like that is based on a trend? That the things— there's going to be another Instagram or there's going to be another this or another that versus Maybe the next Instagram is actually nothing to do with Instagram. Like, from a movement perspective, might not even be an app. The next— the big move, like, the next thing from Instagram could be fucking off Instagram and just chilling at home and just not fucking being on the app.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, hopefully. I mean, there will always be— these things are highly addictive, as you've been sort of talking about. The effect of coming off them. This is— if we just removed heroin, you know, we removed— we said it was heroin that you're off. It's like, in the mornings, man, I don't know what the fuck to do.

Josh: It's a good night there, but it really— you realise how much monkey mind stuff is going on around just scrolling. And then Bree, who's— yeah, pretty like— I'd say she's like an average social media user. She's not sort of extreme at my end. I just like watch her doing it, like just scrolling or whatever. And I just like, obviously in the classic sort of, as you do if you're on a diet or whatever, you fucking, oh, you're gonna eat that. You know, it's the same sort of thing. It's like, oh, you're scrolling a lot.

Tommy: Does it feel pathetic? Does it? Yeah, there is something from the outside.

Josh: Not from like looking at Breen being like, that's pathetic. But I think about—

Tommy: No, just the action of doing it, everyone doing it.

Josh: Me doing it. Speaking about me and how I feel, and, and, um, I feel like, uh, that's a, um, it's a not, not a great use of time, or there's something a little bit sort of robotic or unhuman about it, maybe.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, speaking of heroin, great segue. The, uh, I could tell this story, and, and the article, by the way. Yeah, do it. I was just looking at the article before about travel and when we'll be able to go overseas. I mean, you first type into Google, when will travelling overseas, and then it comes up with 2024, which could be alarm bells. But I don't know, some other reports are that maybe it's 2021 before people are jumping overseas.

Josh: And next, then the airline thing, do you think like airlines being in a position to be able to do it, or is it a COVID thing?

Tommy: It's COVID mixed in with issues of airlines and availability. And then I guess think about economy, the economy and people not having the money to do it. It's like there's so many factors that an individual might not get overseas regardless if they start back up. It'll start up slow, flights will be a lot less, and maybe they'll ramp back up. But I mean, probably gone for a very long time, the days of like even us travelling back in October last year. Yeah, just straight to the airport, you know, get up in the morning, get that flight, LA, buy the Arvo. Because everything's changed. LA's changed. Everyone's leaving LA. There's a movement around videos called Mass Exodus of LA, and it's got like people talking about all the people who are leaving. Comedians— Theo Von's leaving, Joe Rogan's leaving at the end of this month.

Josh: Where's he going? He was talking about Texas, but where is he?

Tommy: Yeah, he's going to Texas. He's already got his place, he's already got his studio. It's all like happening.

Josh: And so the, I mean, the question when we were in Los Angeles, the theme that we noticed was there are high performers, as you could say, but they feel disconnected. They don't feel like there's a sense of community. There's a sense of sadness. It's grind. You, you, um, you're in traffic all of the time. There's no balance. Um, I guess that's a response.

Tommy: I heard it's got worse. So I mean, that's— if that's the case. But even think about our homie Matt D'Avella. He's not from there. It's not like— I don't think you have an allegiance to LA. Like, you know, it's maybe if you grew up there, you're like, oh, my family's here. But he's from New Jersey, isn't he?

Josh: Yeah, or from Jersey, East Coast.

Tommy: And so, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if someone like him just was like, yeah, I'm out too. 'Cause it's not what it was. And people going inland. But anyway, the travel thing. I got told this storey by a flight attendant recently that said that this guy, so have you ever been on a flight where someone's had to have medical attention? Like people have had to come and say, you know, like, anyone know a doctor here? Is there a doctor here?

Josh: I think so.

Tommy: I haven't seen it.

Josh: Yeah, I've seen it, but in a— I reckon in a way lower, um, lower sense, just like, oh, it's a doctor on board, like it's— yeah, it's not crazy.

Tommy: Yeah, but I do remember here, my, um, my brother flew with this guy and, um, turned out a work colleague, turned out that he ended up going into some cabin and sleeping because he had some issue going on. Anyway, long storey short, turned out he'd been drinking too many Red Bulls and got a urine tract infection or something like that.

Josh: Why did Red Bulls do that?

Tommy: I don't know. Just a shit diet is the point. Like, I don't know, there's something going on with his, uh, you know, system. But anyway, he had to sleep out the back. But this storey specifically, um, someone was in a lot of pain in— that was on the flight, and they said, oh, is there a medic, you know, anyone, a doctor here? And the guy was like, you know, wincing in pain, like severely. She said he looked quite normal, you know, looked quite just like a dude, like up to Sydney or something, and just like could be business because it's, you know, timing. Anyway, turned out that what he said he had when the per— the doctor that came to speak to him was that he had a twisted testicle. Have you ever had a twisted testicle?

Josh: No, no, I haven't. I feel like you have though.

Tommy: Yep.

Josh: So I—

Tommy: so mate, at that point that I found out he had a twisted testicle, I felt so sorry for him because if you— if it doesn't become untangled, makes you sound like you've got huge nuts too.

Josh: No, it seems like a long— like a really long sort of— how does it even—

Tommy: how does it—

Josh: I don't know, twist?

Tommy: But dude, it is—

Josh: Show us a shape. Use your hand to show a shape of your nuts. Just one.

Tommy: No, what do you mean? No, but there's no— it's not about that. So you can't even feel it like turned or anything, but what happens is even if you just patted it like the softest pat, it is excruciatingly painful. And it's bizarre because it's not just like— it's all over it. It's like You cannot move. If you got up and stood and tried to run, you would just be—

Josh: So is it the twisting of the nut, like, so one nut going behind the other rather than the actual nut itself twisting?

Tommy: Nah, dude. So you cannot feel it. Like, it doesn't feel like you've just like actually had two fucking pon pons from a, you know, a coat and just like—

Josh: But what is it actually doing internally?

Tommy: There is something twisting, but it's— Yeah, go have a look. There's something twisting, definitely twisting. But so there's a few things. They untangle.

Josh: Testicular torsion. Oh, that's what it's called. I'm sorry.

Tommy: Oh, so you eat that?

Josh: All right, I know what's going on here.

Tommy: What happened? What?

Josh: The way that it sounds, or the way that you're describing— okay. Oh yeah, there's a great graph. I'll send it to you as well so you can see it. So what's happening is, if you just type in— you just Google it yourself, twisted testicle, look on Google Images. So it's not, it's not a twisted, like the actual ball's being squished and twisted. The nut is held by some sort of fucking thing and it's— Yeah. And so if you imagine like a ball's hanging on a piece of rope and then the ball is then being twisted and the rope is sort of being twisted.

Tommy: Turning. Yeah, yeah. So it'd be like, yeah, turning. So it's one of them just turning itself. Itself, not twisting and wrapping around the other one. Wow. Anyway, for me, it just— for some— somehow just went. And I was like— it was the moment where I just was like, oh, I just fucking got up and I could— I could walk again. I was like, oh my God, that wasn't that long. I was probably like 12, not— and, and so it went quickly. Sometimes I knew a kid who had to get surgery friend of a friend, my mum's friend's kid, had to get surgery about it. Like, that's full on if you have to get surgery. This guy said he had it, right? And so immediately when she's telling me this, I'm like, oh, empathy, that fucking guy, feel sorry for that motherfucker. He's like, oh, I need some something for the pain, please, please, please, I need something for the pain. The doctor's like, okay. And supposedly they carry like morphine on flights, and there's a few other drugs that they carry specifically for cases that could come up on flight. So they can, you know, EpiPens and, you know, diabetes medication and morphine. And so the doctor administered some morphine and injected him with it. Got to the other side, Sydney, and gets off. And long storey short, it turned out this guy didn't have a twisted testicle. He was a junkie, and he realised that you can con people into getting medication on flights.

Josh: How much is morphine cost?

Tommy: Well, you just can't get it. You can't get it. Yeah, sure, you can't get it. And so you— $140 flight to Sydney, and maybe it's a Tiger, but a good deal. Get this, the doctor that came over and said okay, I'll administer this. Thought something was up, didn't quite like— wasn't going to say, mate, you don't have pain. Used half water, so, um, in the syringe, the clean water, half water.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then so diluted the morphine, so it was like a tiny little dose. And then the guy on the other end, they realised that he was a con artist. Wow, how's that?

Josh: How did you hear this story? Where's this? That's good.

Tommy: From a flight attendant. From a flight attendant. It fucking blew my mind because I was like, I see, I see how he's gone, oh, get a cheap flight. It's like, I can get, I can get it that way. There's a bit of theatrics involved, you know, fucking annoying in the— but that's the lengths people are going to, to get drugs like that. It's fucking full-on, dude.

Josh: How do you reckon? I mean, the twisted testicle is a good one.

Tommy: I know, clever, because you can't like—

Josh: because there's a little bit of that, like, ah mate, I've got a fucking twisted testicle.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, stop talking about it. Arguing with a woman who says she has period pain, there's no argument, there's no fucking toughen up, sweet. It's like, no mate, yeah, no one fucking—

Josh: that's your own thing. Yeah, it's a great move, respect.

Tommy: So if you want to pull a sick day at school, yeah, say you've got a twisted testicle.

Josh: Yeah. It is full-on. I like that story.

Tommy: You'd get out of work.

Josh: Yeah, maybe there's a, um, yeah, now where can I go to get storeys like that? Like, if I just want to find— just Reddit. You just don't know what's fucking true.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, people are just hyperbolic and talking shit. I mean, that's why people come to this podcast, to be honest, because then someone out there has transferred that story.

Josh: Yeah, to all of the gronks. So all the gronks can tell the story. Any other bits of information in the storey that need to be told?

Tommy: No, no, I think that was it. I think that was it. There was, um, that after doing some cheques on his name, they worked out they were on to him, basically. They just, they were on to him. They knew.

Josh: Has he done it before?

Tommy: They worked out that he'd— yeah, yeah, yeah, they worked out that he'd been on other flights. And yeah, yeah, full, full, like, think about it. You get to sit down, you get to get your injection, I mean, it's fucked, but I wonder how many— maybe I've ruined some kind of like ins— I mean, not actually, COVID ruined it. No one's flying anyway. No one's fucking flying. Maybe, maybe now's a good time to do it because there's not many people on the flights.

Josh: So yeah, I mean, just before we go, the stuff in Beirut's fucking horrendous.

Tommy: Oh man, and it is, um, the, the footage is ridiculous.

Josh: Like, have you watched all the different sort of angles?

Tommy: Yeah, dude, it's, it's incomprehensible. Is that the right word? Yeah, incomprehensible. It's fucking like, it, it makes no sense. You see why people are looking at it from afar, from 10Ks away in a building, and they're just looking at it dead on, and then it erupts, and then you can see them sort of get a bit— they've got time to react and sort of move back before the, the fucking window blows in on them.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And that's what blows me away.

Josh: It's like you see the power go out, like the light goes out, it's like, what's that? And then the fucking response, that's full on, dude.

Tommy: It's, um, such a sad time. That place has had civil unrest for fucking years and they've just— it's now been rattled by this. It's so sad.

Josh: The, I mean, the chemical stuff, like now all of the, what's it called? Ammonium nitrate that they, that was, so it was a ship or something from Africa from 2013 that got, what's it called?

Tommy: They seized the product. Exactly.

Josh: They seized it. And they were saying that they weren't using, they weren't storing it in the right way. But now they're talking in the news about Newcastle. Have you, have you read this story?

Tommy: No, I just from you mentioning it.

Josh: So, there's 4 times as much ammonium nitrate in this like, um, storage facility. And obviously, there's a bunch more cheques around this, but they're saying like, hey, there's people, there are people living 800 metres away from this storage facility and it would basically wipe out Newcastle. Now, dude, I'm not an expert. I don't know what the fucking deal is, but what a scary thought. I feel like, yeah, yeah, it's just that weird thing. Like, once you see that and then you're like, I see that there. Yeah, we have 4 times the amount of the thing that made that happen. Here.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't take a scientist genius to work that out. Far out. I mean, this year is an absolute mess, isn't it? Yeah, just like it— that's something that it— what was odd about the sort of comms around at the start, I guess it's probably people not understanding what had happened, but this is the thing, Lebanon, the first day I could— yeah, in, if I— in Lebanon, I couldn't work. I, I was just looking sort of top level, but Couldn't see what had happened. Well, this is the problem. I thought it was a bomb.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And this is the problem with having a loose unit as a president.

Josh: He, like in the US, like Donald Trump said, used the words attack, like, ah, the attack. And so, you think about how the media and politicians, like there's all a responsibility to be very careful about the language that's used depending on what it is. And even just, I guess, that sort of— where did I see that? I saw a clip from the project where a guy was saying, you know, making claims that it was Israel or things like it, just claims that have no clear basis or like there's actually no evidence for that, it's, it's pretty destructive. Um, so I guess that's the thing. But the problem is that we want to, we want to know and we want to unders— like, when something massive like that happens, you obviously straight away want to know all the details.

Tommy: Yeah, give us, give us, give us.

Josh: It does make sense, like, what they're saying, where it's just like, oh, this is just negligence. Around storage. Like, it does actually, like, it makes sense.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, that does make sense. Fuck.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, it's a crazy time, man. It's a crazy time. How's your mocha, by the way?

Josh: It's really good. Yeah, I haven't had much of it. I said at the start of the show, yeah, I was going to drink 2 liters. I haven't. I've probably done the responsible amount of drinking of water. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: There's no wee up for grabs, so you're not going to go that hard today.

Josh: So I went from 200—

Tommy: actually, there is a wee up for grabs.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Uh, 2,000 mils, I'm down to, uh, 1, uh, what is it, uh, 1,400. So I've had 600 mils of water during the show.

Tommy: All right, one more skull and then, uh, yeah, okay, one more big one.

Josh: But the one thing I will say is If you're in iso, you're sitting down, you're at home, make sure you drink enough water, especially during winter. It's very easy to not drink enough. Are you hydrated?

Tommy: Yeah, not enough as of this morning. I've had one coffee, one tea, and pancakes, and a little bit of water. I've been waking up in the night, like in the— sorry, the morning time, just parched, and I just drink a heap in the morning. So I've had some at first rise.

Josh: I've had a liter.

Tommy: Wow, good work.

Josh: That feels like it's a good amount without being silly, you know. Don't need any, um, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: This week you've been more sensible than you have in your whole life, to be honest.

Josh: Yeah, just, this is— what's the point, you know?

Tommy: You know, be sensible, kids. Be sensible, you know.

Josh: Don't be silly. Keep hydrated. Alrighty.

Tommy: Uh, text a mate. Text a mate that you, uh, if you've woken up and you're not using social media as much. Or instead of using social media, text someone, tell them you love them, tell them you're thinking of them. That's nice. You know, when someone just says, I'm thinking of you, as long as it's someone you actually are close with, uh, it's always a nice message. Hey mate, thinking of you, love you. That's it.

Josh: It's a good idea.

Tommy: That's it.

Josh: Alrighty, it's the Daily Talk Show, uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Can you actually quickly Pull up the email from our awesome French listener. I want you to try and— I want you to try and read out all the words because there's a bunch of French words. Do you know the one I'm talking about?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. As long as— Do you reckon you've put it into the archive?

Josh: You know how to access archives?

Tommy: Yeah, I do. But it just adds more layers and I've archived a heap of other stuff.

Josh: You can also just use the search function as well.

Tommy: I just tried to write profiterole, but I don't know how to spell it. Éclair.

Josh: Éclair.

Tommy: Yeah, here we go. Hi guys, this is from Charlotte. Hi guys, I'm a bit late because I'm watching episode 808 today as I've had friends at home since a few days. I've been doing the tourist guide on, on the French Riviera. Fucking lucky duck. And then haven't had a minute to listen to my favourite Aussie podcast. French summer holiday time. Mate, I don't blame you. It's summer in the French Riviera. Well, 808 episode speaking about chocolate eclairs and profiteroles is funny. I couldn't resist to write a message. First, let me say you must come to France to taste real chocolate eclairs and profiteroles. The difference is huge. Not that huge in fact in terms of flavor, but huge in terms of composition. So here we are. Chocolate eclairs and profiteroles have the same batter, pâte à choux. I can't say that word, which has a long and cylindrical form for eclairs and a round shape for profiteroles. Profiteroles is plurals because it's always served by 3. Did you know that, Josh?

Josh: Nah, fuck, if I knew that I got 3.

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: Yeah, Mum, you're not sure there's been a few times where I've only had 1 profiterole? Where did the other ones go?

Tommy: Mum had them. The main difference is that profiteroles is a dessert served on a plate in a restaurant, whereas a chocolate éclair is bought at a bakery and must be kept in a fridge. The reason? Chocolate éclairs is filled up with cream. With a chocolate flavor. Actually, you also have vanilla eclairs and coffee eclairs where the flavour is different. The cr— this cream is a huge thing to do and is temperature sensitive, need to be kept under 4 degrees. And if you want to avoid stomach disorder— if you want to avoid stomach disorders, profiteroles are filled with vanilla ice cream. Okay, here we go.

Josh: This is new.

Tommy: Also On top of chocolate eclairs, you have a chocolate glazing— not sure of the English word, maybe icing— which is smooth, shiny, and cold. On the other hand, when profiteroles are served on a plate, you have on top of them chocolate sauce, which is hot. So you understand why profiteroles is a dessert and should be made just before eating, unless having a disaster on a plate. Of course, I'm sure you could eat mix of these pastries in Australia, and I'm sure it's good too, but I needed to explain the differences. Well, I'm fond of cooking and pastry baking. Love you guys. Have a good day. Love you, Charlotte.

Josh: Fuck me.

Tommy: That's a huge difference. We've butchered them here in this country.

Josh: That's disgusting. Yeah, I mean, profiteroles, what I've been eating, they're not profiteroles.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: There's a lot to be answered for. So much.

Tommy: Who the fuck?

Josh: Yeah, who thought it could Charlotte could not have been more clear.

Tommy: She could not have been more clear.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's absolutely bullshit.

Josh: Yeah, we need to do— I don't know what we can do about it. Oh, man.

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: I mean, maybe that's where I could be spending my time. Maybe I could be learning something around all of these, this pastry stuff.

Tommy: Thank you, Charlotte. A profiterole masterclass, éclair masterclass. I mean, to be honest, I don't know what I ate because it seemed like it was a butchered version of both. I reckon it was just like, what would the bogan Australians like most? Sugary. Fluffy cream in the middle and then basically just doughnut material on the outside. In fact, I'm gonna go get one today. Fuck it.

Josh: I mean, so yeah, the profiterole, yeah, it's interesting. Like, you can really see— it's confusing, isn't it? I'm on Google Images. Oh, hang on, no, I'm still on the twisted testicle.

Tommy: Mini profiterole ball. Profiteroles.

Josh: Yeah. No, they are. Anyway, all right, they look very different, some of them. Some of them you can see the cream or the ice cream, some of them you can't. Um, but thank you for your email, Charlotte. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to email us. Uh, otherwise we'll see you tomorrow for Weekend Banter. Have a good one, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.