DJ Precious

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 679.

Tommy: Happy Tuesday, Gronks. What's going on?

George: What's happening?

Josh: I thought it was Tuesday.

Tommy: They're all blending. They are all blending, aren't they, guys?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How are you, uh, George?

George: I'm feeling great. I'm, uh, I'm at about a, about an 80, I reckon. Feeling pumped.

Mason: That's big.

Josh: That's huge. Uh, Sebz, how are you feeling?

Mason: I'm feeling good. I reckon I'm at a 95.

Josh: This is huge. TJ, this is huge.

Tommy: I'm just trying to look at myself in the camera to see. I was a bit puffy this morning. Bodhi, uh, you know, just child problems. Just up, up late touching me, just kicking me, came into the bed crying.

Josh: It's Yeah, it's not less than a 40 then.

Tommy: Uh, only from, only from lack of sleep and feeling like I'm getting a bit of a cold. I could have coronavirus, but, um, probably not. Hey, they've just started testing anybody who has any symptoms in Victoria. It's a new thing. So if you, um, yeah, so the testing is going to ramp up. I'm not sure they're going to find more, but it's, um, yeah, it's interesting. But anyway, what about you, Josh?

Mason: What are you feeling?

Josh: I think because of you guys, I think like it's getting up there. I reckon I'm probably in the company of all of you, I'm at about an 80. If I was on my own, I'd be about a 60.

Tommy: So, oh, actually, nah, on the back of this, I'll launch into a tanty, um, because I've got to do shit today that I don't want to do, and one of those things is get out of my house because there's going to be an inspection. They're trying to sell our house.

George: But I thought they had to ban those. I thought you're out of your mind.

Tommy: By appointment only. It can't be like opening up on a Saturday to let a handful of gronks through. But for some reason, I don't know, maybe it is legal, but we've come to the party. It's like it's not even our birthday.

George: No parties.

Josh: It's not allowed parties.

Tommy: Oh yeah, we've come to— Yeah, no party. But anyway, we're letting them through.

Josh: You've come to a handshake arrangement. Can't do that either.

Tommy: No handshake. Absolutely not. Anyway, so I'm going to be out of the house. But here's the thing, mate, we only just discovered after last week they opened it up and they let one person through. Like days later, Amy was sniffing around under the sink and smelt something rancid. And I'm usually blamed for anything that smells bad. And it wasn't me, it was the real estate agent. The real estate agent who opened this place took the bag that we have as the bin. There's no, there's no spot for a bin in this house, so we just use bin bags hung next to the— so underneath, you know, like underneath the, um, the, uh, what do you call it, like where you wash the dishes, the taps thing. And so it's just hanging, yeah, underneath the sink, you're hanging on a door. And they've taken off the bag and stuffed the bag into the cupboard under the sink. And we didn't even know. I just thought, ah, that's gone. So we got out a new bag and Amy's found this disgusting—

Josh: what was in it?

Tommy: Rotten bag. I don't know, but it was rotting. Must have been food scraps. And so the real estate agent had done this and not put it back. Absolute gronks.

Josh: So what are you gonna do?

Tommy: I'm gonna put the bin out first. I've learned my lesson. But yeah, it's not much I can do. I just wanted to fucking vent about it on my my own podcast.

Josh: Because when I was growing up, I actually— we were in a household that didn't have a bin. Mum thought it was dirty to have a bin, sort of in like— it was cleaner just to have the plastic bag hanging off the, um, the cupboard.

Tommy: Uh, mate, I don't know how much better it is. What I mean, one is like, uh, out of sight, out of mind. And so when you don't— when you aren't seeing, you know, but they get smelly. It all gets smelly. I think you, you go through them quicker. Like, you, you take it to the you take it to the trash, the actual, you know, rubbish bin, a lot quicker if you've got it hanging than not.

Josh: How often are you actually emptying that bag? Would it be once every 2 days?

Tommy: Oh, you don't empty it, you just ditch it.

Josh: Oh, sorry, ditch it. Yeah, sure.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: How often are you getting rid of it?

Tommy: I've got to do it right now. Just put some eggs in into it. So unless I leave it and see what she does this time. Should I do that? I'll leave a full bag.

Josh: But maybe it seems passive-aggressive at your end. Maybe she thinks you're being a gronk.

Tommy: Well, it's my house and we're doing them a favor. We're absolutely doing them a favor. It's not like we're not tied to them through our rental. Like, we're renting through another agency and this is a different agency that have come in.

Josh: Do you think they recognise that you're doing them a favor?

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Like, they gave us some tickets, they gave us some movie tickets, which are pretty redundant. I don't know if the cinema will still exist by the time this is all over.

Josh: Maybe ask for like a Netflix subscription instead. Do you reckon you could just sort of transfer them?

Tommy: I wonder if anyone would buy them right now. I mean, they are like $22, $25 tickets. There's $50 worth of tickets. Who's buying that? Maybe they— are they cheap at the moment? Movie ticket vouchers. I wonder if they're cheap. This is good.

Josh: Yeah. What could you get? Yeah. What are you going to say, Seth?

Mason: Gemma's jumping on the bandwagon. She says your real estate agent is a mole, which is really doubling down.

George: Gemma's Well, they're going to have to only— They can only bring in like one other person, right?

Josh: It seems like a lot of energy. You'd want them to buy the place after they walk around.

Tommy: Oh, mate. I think like there— I do feel for the real estate agents, but I've never had really that great of an experience with property managers or real estate agents, to be fair. I've always found something.

Josh: Dr. Kay says, "I would leave a passive-aggressive note in the cabinet she left it last time and on the rubbish bag." That's great.

Tommy: So I like, I leave the bin hanging and then I put a note in there, say, uh, I know what you're about to do. Can you please take the bin out once you've put it in? Is it too much? Like, she's in my house.

Josh: Yeah, it's interesting. I think that, um, last week I was in the leaning in style, was really leaning into everything. I hadn't actually— I realised that part of my stress was I hadn't checked my, um, I hadn't been reading my emails.

Tommy: I sent you a couple, I know.

Josh: Yeah, and so like the inbox would be getting crazy. And so I was just leaning into just like, let's eat shit, let's get angry, let's blame everyone, let's just lean into it. And this week I'm sort of a little bit more woke. And so I feel like maybe you should actually double down on the other side. And I would actually say, hey, I'm so sorry, I realised that I left the bin out, which is probably not a good look. It was so funny, we heard her, we smelt something horrible and realised that you'd just done, you know, the right thing for you and put it in the cabinet.

Tommy: That's still passive, it's still passive. There's like slight tones of passiveness with it.

Josh: You can't be nice. I mean, that was just being nice.

Tommy: Well, no, no, no. The bit about you did the right thing for you, which points out that obviously you respect—

Josh: Oh, so maybe, yeah, you did the right thing. Look, we want to get this house sold. I guess if you don't want it.

Mason: We want to get this house sold.

Josh: Do you want to get the house sold?

Tommy: Only to an investor, because then it means we can stay here. I don't want to have to move, dude.

Josh: So maybe something like, look, the investors want to see a clean property.

Tommy: I get that.

George: Yeah, that's good.

Tommy: True, true. I mean, yeah.

Josh: Kill her with kindness.

Tommy: Kill her with kindness. Yeah. Could be a great title.

Josh: Kiss her a hello on the lips.

Tommy: No, I'm gone. Like, I'm not even going to be here. I won't see them. I'll just come back.

George: And, you know, wipe everything down.

Tommy: Yeah, true, I should do that. Um, great time to launch, just off the back of, you know, what you were doing last week, uh, your new DJ name, which I thought I want to run past you guys.

Josh: Okay, I'll be launching on Friday.

Tommy: DJ Precious.

Josh: It's good, it's solid. I think, um, I could imagine sort of a, um, a, uh embroidered hat that just says "Precious" on it, potentially in glitter.

Tommy: What's your tagline?

Josh: No requests, please.

Tommy: Only positivity. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah, the optimistic. I could definitely be a children's entertainer. I've thought about that. Like, I feel like I could bring a faux optimism to schools. Maybe that could be— you would be Jay Faux Optimism.

Tommy: You know, um, I don't know if you've heard this story, George. I've told on the podcast a couple of times. I had a magician to my probably 9th or 10th birthday party, and I was pumped. Fucking love magicians. And I was really— you know, like, you go through stages. I know you have, Josh. It's like you get into magic.

George: Yeah, yeah, I was doing the same when I was at school.

Tommy: Yeah, there was a— there was a there was a magic place in the city where you could buy, you know, little sets. You get your ball and cup and sort of handkerchief. Um, didn't— couldn't ever do it, but I liked watching it. Anyway, uh, this one magician, I can't remember his name, had a top hat, brought a rabbit, had a whole thing going on, was in the room. I remember it vividly. And he had this wand that he would hold up, and then he'd say, 'Here you go, who wants to touch my wand?' No, that's wrong, but he'd hand over his wand and the wand would go limp. Anyway, yeah, yeah, I was on to this fucking magician. I grabbed the wand, I pressed the end of the wand, and it got hard. He was so pissed off. He grabbed my hand, he said, don't you ever do that again, mate. I was scared.

Josh: What a darkness in magicians.

Tommy: Yeah, but I think, I think if a child made you look dumb in front of a group of kids. Oh yeah, you'd probably squeeze his hand. You'd be squeezing your hand too.

Josh: Well, I was thinking, um, I actually had some juggling balls that I found in my, um, storage that, uh, annoyingly they require power because they light up and they've run out of power. But I was going to bring them for Friday night.

George: Pardon?

Mason: How do you power them? Just USB?

Josh: So, well, no, no. So this is the annoying thing is it's The way it works is it has like a little button type thing that you turn and you have to sort of turn it all the way to turn it on. But some of them have obviously been on in storage and so they're dead. And I feel like it's an extremely annoying thing to get fixed whilst, you know, in lockdown.

Tommy: I mean, there's a few annoying things to get done in lockdown, one being get onto a phone network because they're getting— being flooded with calls. Others getting your license. Anyone need to get their licence out of us?

Mason: Anyone? I mean, I'm lucky, you know, because Vic Roads, you can't even book your driving test.

Josh: Why is that lucky? Which is great.

Tommy: Lucky or sad?

Mason: Well, I mean, it's a little bit sad because, I mean, the other day I was sort of thinking it'd be when Grace comes to Melbourne it would be nice to go and meet her at the airport.

Tommy: Yeah, at the moment, if there's ever been motivation to get your fucking license, it's now, buddy.

Josh: Yeah, just going 80 on the freeway, just slowly moving along, just panic, just not ready, just way too far to the left, but just like, I've just got to fucking make it, just got to get there. Ends up going the wrong fucking exit, that classic fork.

Mason: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: So, so So what's the deal?

Mason: Well, so I was— I'm still— I guess I'm still figuring it out, but yeah, I mean, I— it's a bit weird bringing my mum. That's just a bit strange.

Tommy: And then, well, at least I brought the ice for him. I got him chatting.

Mason: Um, yeah, I mean, I feel like the, the only option now is just get an Uber there.

Tommy: And you're a tight-ass, you wouldn't want to spend that much.

Josh: Yeah, I worry about some sort of arrangement where you ask her to cover half of the Uber.

Mason: She just paid for flights. We could definitely do public transport.

Tommy: Definitely. You know, Sevs, you know there is a Skybus that takes you to Doncaster Shopping Centre.

George: Oh, really?

Tommy: Amy's mum told me.

Mason: That's not a bad idea.

Josh: Grace says, I'm getting an Uber at this point. Hopefully the Uber driver's not charismatic because Because I'd be looking at other options by that point. No, but does it make yourself—

Mason: It's slightly annoying, yeah.

Josh: Do you think that all of a sudden it starts to, as you start to sort of develop as a human, does it make you realise, do a bit of an audit and say, you know what, I need to get new pyjamas. I need to get rid of all the stuffed toys that I have in my bed. The blankie has to go.

Tommy: Do you actually have this?

Mason: No, I do, I do, I do have to dial in a few things. So like blinds being one of them, I just— my, my bedroom's got like, you can see it from the street, and so you could walk up.

Tommy: You want it to feel— you want it to feel—

George: close that shit up, don't you?

Tommy: Don't know what time it is.

Mason: Oh, exactly.

Josh: Any changes to the Philips Hue setup? To the Philips Hue, um Maybe get rid of that red, like the red's a bit much.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, you can just tell Google what colour you want, but that's okay. It's usually like yellow or white, or if, if, yeah, if it's full on, then you go red.

Tommy: Like, I got my licence on my birthday when I turned 16, took the day off school, got my licence on the day I turned 18, took the day of school. I.e., I dropped out of school in year 11, so I had a lot of time on my hands. Do you think it says something about an individual? I don't know. I'm not making casting judgment. It's just normal for me to get my license. But Josh, I know you've been—

Josh: It sounds about as passive as what I actually brought up with.

Tommy: No, but I know you got it, Josh.

Josh: Yeah, I did. So, the thing is I got mine. So, the day that I turned— Like, I think that's pretty common. You turn 18, especially living in the burbs, as soon as you can get it, you get it. You're what, George?

George: I got mine the day I turned 17.

Josh: Really? You're a top dog.

Tommy: Dirty little Byron dog.

Josh: Yeah. Were you in Byron or— That's a Canberra vibe.

Tommy: ACT vibes, far out.

Josh: Yeah. Did you ever buy fireworks, George, in Canberra?

George: Yeah, we had, um, they were going off at school all the time, like in the canteen. I remember one guy, people putting little bungas in people's backpacks. And stuff.

Mason: Yes.

George: And, um, this one guy Tarquin, he lit off this big, like, huge one in the canteen. Goon Lee. So loud, and it like burnt his hand.

Josh: Oh no. How's Tarquin now?

George: Uh, he's— yeah, he's good. He's, um— haven't spoken to him for about 10 years, but he's—

Josh: got him on Facebook?

George: Yeah, yeah, he's on Facebook.

Tommy: That's great.

George: He very rarely posts.

Tommy: And we know you did a stint in porn because of that moustache that you've got.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. That's a Canberra moustache. Of course.

Tommy: I mean, you see why they ban shit like fireworks, because if you have it in the state, there's kids at school with firecrackers. It's genius, but it's also quite destructive.

Josh: We had fart bombs. But no, to answer, on the getting your license, they change the rules when I went for it and it was a lot harder. And so, I didn't get my licence the first time. I went, I tried to turn, they said to turn right at the roundabout and I was in the left lane and panicked. And rather than just saying, "Hey, no, I can't turn right. I'm in the left lane." I tried to merge from the left to the right in the roundabout.

Tommy: And so, it's interesting. Hang on, was it a trick question? Trick question.

Josh: So they were very close. Yeah, because it was very close to the roundabout when the entrance of the roundabout. And so I looked to my right, I'm like, okay, it's not safe to do so. And what I should have done in that moment is say, hey, no, sorry, I can't. And if I had just continued on and ignored their instructions and said, hey, no, sorry, it wasn't safe to do so, it wouldn't have been an instant fail.

Tommy: God, Shannon got her licence when she was L's when she turned 16, and then exactly 6 months later on got her full licence at 17.

Josh: It's a great— says me too, Shannon.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just a couple of capable women in this. Yeah, it's a '97.

Mason: Gemma says, um, you should get an Uber so you can do a shot at the airport to calm the nerves.

Josh: What do you think?

Tommy: Hang on, wait, wait, sorry, can I just throw it out there? Queen Gronkh, would you go and pick up Earthrise?

Josh: No, I just think this is— we've already been through us taking him. We just can't do it. We just—

Tommy: yeah, we don't want, we don't want his gay uncles, you and I, to look after him, to take him out.

Josh: But also, I just think that any, um, I think that it just needs to be a, a private interaction. Can you just get— you're not going to be able to get your licence in the next 6 weeks. Or do you think you could?

Mason: No, no, you can't. You can't. VicRoads have blocked all tests.

Josh: But do you think you could if you were to take your— Have you done enough hours?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just need to book the test.

Josh: So, what is the pushback?

Mason: I've done my perception test. I just need to do the driving test.

George: Okay.

Mason: It's just the— I mean, look, the pushback is sort of admin because I have to do it with— I have to coordinate it with the driving instructor and VicRoads. Because our car's got a foot handbrake, and so that you're not allowed to use foot handbrakes during the test. It has to be one of the old school hand ones. Rip it up.

Josh: I feel like— So when are you going to do it?

Mason: I'm gonna— When am I gonna do it? Yeah, I mean, probably when they open back up.

Tommy: Yeah, well, Gemma has said she would love to.

George: Um, yeah, no, it needs to be fun. I reckon you just Uber out there if you haven't got in time. You could Uber out there, hire a car, Grace drives back, and you're on.

Josh: Yeah, that's nice. Again, like, if we had the Cybertruck, you could autopilot that thing the whole way. Yeah, it is frustrating. Yeah, what's your other options?

Mason: I guess you could, um, I think I'll end up Ubering because there's nothing there's no other way to do it.

Tommy: Oh, can we— we've got a driver that we use when— remember when we go to LA? It's an X5. It's about as much as an Uber to the airport.

Josh: Yeah, that's probably a good solution.

Tommy: We could get them on the show, get them on the show. They're great banter during the ride.

Josh: Yeah, but I mean, I guess one of the considerations is, uh, I feel like you driving would be nice. I think it's not to be sort of old school about it because I know that that's It is a little bit old school, but I think it'd be nice for you to drive. One option is if you were to wear, like, have your learners on, one of us could just be in the passenger seat just with sunnies on, no talking.

George: Oh, yeah.

Josh: Just all in black and just sit there. Oh, actually, what about if Grace has her full licence, she could She could sit next to you while you drive.

George: Oh, that's nice.

Tommy: I'll get an Uber home. I'll be in the passenger seat and then I'll jump out.

Josh: Yeah, Grace can take me. How about that as a solution?

Tommy: That's a pretty good— Has Grace got her full license? Has she got her full license?

Josh: I'm guessing so.

Mason: Yeah, she does.

Josh: Okay. 25.

Tommy: How old is she? 25?

George: Yeah.

Josh: 36. 36. No, I think that could be a good solution, Seb.

George: Yeah.

Josh: All right, well, keep us updated. It'd be great to do a bit of a, like, a comedians in cars getting coffee sort of GoPro setup.

Tommy: But Grace, we know we can't do that. We'll give you some more privacy. Yeah, privacy. Hey, um, George, I saw that you had a few corrections from yesterday's show. It's always quite alarming. Yeah, especially for DJ Precious.

George: Oh, they're only from me. A couple of corrections from me.

Tommy: Are you correcting yourself?

George: I'm correcting myself just before it gets out of hand. So, I actually don't think Glen Robbins is part of Working Dog. I think he's just, he does a lot of shows with them. So, I forgot about—

Josh: That's a really good correction because I would have assumed he was.

George: I forgot about Rob Sitch and Jane Kennedy as well. Yeah. So, sorry about that. And the other one was I was pretty quick to blame the curtains for the smell in the office.

Tommy: Well, I was pretty quick to blame China.

Josh: Yeah, it was pretty— there was a lot being thrown about.

George: When there was no one else in the room, so I just blamed the curtains. Turns out it was me. My shirt was— I couldn't— something wrong with that shirt.

Josh: I had to cut it out. When did you realize? Did Hannah have to tell you?

George: No, I think I realised after the show. I was like, geez, what's something?

Tommy: Yeah, because I couldn't believe it.

George: I was cold and I had a jumper on and stuff. There was no way that I could produce that sweat scent.

Tommy: And yeah, and what you'll realise also, George, is that, um, the more you do this show the less time you have to apologize, to be making these formal apologies, because there's a lot of shit we're saying that we've got wrong.

George: But thanks, thanks for backing me up anyway, Tommy. So that was nice of you.

Tommy: No, I still, I still go sniff those curtains right now.

George: Okay, awesome.

Tommy: Because I'm, because I'm still fucking blaming the piece of shit manufacturing of just crummy material.

Josh: Okay, here we go. We didn't—

Tommy: here we go, sniffing the curtain.

George: Can confirm, yeah, they're not good. No, they're not too bad.

Tommy: But you can't— they're not— it's not radiating sniff away, you know. It's not like you can— you're walking past, no one's ever commented. I just put them up and thought, uh, geez.

Mason: I love how the blame was thrown to me as well, just on that thing down there.

Josh: Sevs has never emitted PO, I don't think.

George: No, he couldn't have done this.

Mason: Mr. Pitts just covered the thing.

Josh: He's still using— so I wanted to get, uh, Mr. Pitts there, not on, um, They did an announcement that they were on Amazon, and then I looked, they're not there anymore.

George: Oh really?

Mason: Oh really?

Josh: Are you getting Mr. Pitts, and do you use the Sport or the Classic?

Mason: No, no, you can't use Sport because that's too, um, too smelly. You could just, just use a fresh one, that's normal. Or you could even go the women's fresh one, that's quite nice. Okay, it's more of a fresh smell.

Tommy: Um, that's not—

Josh: that's nice.

Mason: But yeah, no, just go order off their website. Otherwise, you can go to Apple and Sage on Whitehorse Road and you can pick up another— it's another brand one, but it's equally as good.

Tommy: But can you go there now? Is it closed?

Mason: Oh, that's a good point. No, because they do groceries and stuff. So, I'm guessing they'll still be open.

Josh: Whitehorse Road's a bit of a pain in the arse.

Tommy: Maccas do groceries now. You can do drive-through. You can get bread, milk, eggs.

Josh: Are they all existing Maccas stuff? So, the bread is cheeseburger buns?

Tommy: No, no, no, they're actually doing groceries. Like, it's a, it's a great idea.

Josh: It's a good hack, the, um, the coffee. Like, if you, um, like almond milk and you like Milk Lab, which is my only almond milk that I drink, uh, uh, Macca's has a con— like a contract with Milk Lab, so it's actually really good coffee.

Tommy: There you go. I was, I was a bit fired up. I asked for a strong coffee and I got a fucking Big M. It's disgusting.

Josh: What do you mean, an actual Big M?

Tommy: Nah, you know how Big M coffee is like, tastes—

Josh: what's a milkshake?

Tommy: Sugar. It's— yeah, it's, it's slight coffee taste, but I wanted a strong coffee. Anyway, one thing I do want to put on a positive note, mate, I got a lot of joy out of watching that, um, the edibles video that you posted on Instagram. If you haven't seen this and you're listening to this, on our Instagram account We posted yesterday a video of us trying edibles.

Josh: It was the only first 30 minutes that I cut down into like that 2 and a bit minutes. So it only gets looser.

Mason: You're coming back and getting, getting loose.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm glad because I think the back end gets sad and that is the fun bit.

Mason: It is quite sad.

Tommy: But dude, I stand by that you were stoned. That it—

Josh: like, you were being so different watching it back where you're like, I'm looking back. I mean, this is the weight of looking back.

Tommy: You laugh so hard, Josh. You're like, "Am I?" There's this bit where you just, you're like, you're stunned.

Josh: You're like, "Am I?" It was so funny. Lara says, "Macca's has good coffee." Oh, ISO is getting to you, JJ. Lara, have you tried it?

Tommy: Or me.

Josh: Have you tried the coffee? 'Cause it is actually quite good. I reckon if we were to do a, A taste test.

Tommy: It depends if there's a 12-year-old behind that fucking machine. Absolutely shit house. There's a lot of 12-year-olds working at Maccas. It would probably— to be fair, for sure. Yeah, you probably legally can't work at Maccas until you're, you know, 9 months.

Josh: If you become a VIP, Gronkh, though, we can send through and you ask in the, the hobby section that you want the edibles video, we'll email it to you.

Tommy: God, I was actually thinking to send out to everyone.

Josh: We could.

Tommy: I was thinking, how wild is it too, the fact that we even did that video? It's so fucking great. I was watching, um, Joe Rogan posted a clip that Tom Green posted years ago, and Tom Green had an internet TV show at his house and Joe Rogan was a guest. And this was before Joe Rogan had a podcast, and he was— Joe Rogan was just telling him, mate, this is the the best. This is fucking— say what you want, do what you want. It's so funny, like, you can't do a video working for a radio station of you eating marijuana.

Josh: Like, I was asking Jase Hawkins last night whether he could do it. He said he wants to see his dad get high.

Tommy: You can't do it. You can't do it here, only because it's illegal.

Josh: Like, okay, people are slamming me about this, um, Coffee? McDonald's coffee. Gem says it's not good. Lara says it's horrid. Uh, Grace says Macca's coffee sucks. Uh, Wombat says Macca's equals crap coffee. Um, Macca's OJ tastes so chemically, says Shannon. Uh, I'm backing you, Lara, says Grace. Macca's is only good for frozen Coke, no sugar, says Shannon.

Tommy: That's true.

Josh: Is this a Macca's integration? I think we're Fuck, and coffee will never be a thing.

Tommy: Yeah, Felipe, there's no— there's a few Starbucks in Australia.

Josh: Name, please.

Tommy: PayPal. Sorry, there's a few Starbucks, but they don't have— I like them when I'm in the States, but here, Felipe, don't mention.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, there was a huge closure of Starbucks. They closed over 20 stores in Melbourne. There's a great dump. CB— what is it called? Um, MSNBC, maybe. Oh, CNBC.

Mason: CNBC.

Josh: Yeah, the, um, I've mentioned it before, the YouTube channel where they have all of the, um, deconstructions of different companies, and it's like why Starbucks failed in Australia. Yeah, which is interesting.

Tommy: Why did it?

Josh: Um, oh, just because of these, the, the coffee, existing coffee market in Australia, the cafe culture, because Josh Jansen pioneered the McDonald's coffee.

Tommy: So great. Can you drive to Macca's today and get a coffee and just give us a Do a review in the car, just a little bit.

Mason: You can do an Uber Eats coffee from them.

Josh: Yeah, I nearly actually, um, Bree had forgotten that she had a 9:30, uh, WIP and, um, it sort of timed in a way where we weren't going to be able to get the coffee. And I nearly, because I've been good, like, um, we had a bit of a blowout on the weekend where we're like, you know what, it's Easter, like, I don't know what, like, we sort of new territory in regards to public holidays. Do we eat sort of our dialed-in food, or do we eat Easter eggs? And so, um, the weekend was not great, but this morning I nearly ordered an eggland— an Egg Lab, uh, like egg burger because I wanted to get coffee delivered because we weren't able to get our coffee, um, this morning. But instead I used the Moccamaster. It was actually quite good. Cool story.

Mason: Um, Bree's backing you up on the, um on the YouTube, she's saying, I know I'm part of the minority here, but I had it with Josh on our morning walk the other morning and it was good. Not really good, but good.

Josh: I appreciate that.

Tommy: I'm actually going for— I've got to get out of the house at 2 PM. And so I could go. I could go. What do I get?

Josh: Just a strong almond latte? Well, you're the 7-Eleven coffee guy. But yeah, if you get a strong almond latte.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But I mean, the 7-Eleven is you've accepted defeat. You need caffeine in your veins. And you're paying a dollar. I reckon I'll get one.

George: I'm pretty close.

Tommy: Can I put it on the business? Because it's probably gonna be about fucking $5.80.

Josh: And then, uh, George, you can, you can, uh, claim it as well. Have you, have you been— have you gotten cash back for the road yet, or are we still going to do that? Uh, what are you going to do?

George: I haven't.

Tommy: Okay, I chase George up to send invoices to me.

George: Okay. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'll do that.

Tommy: George is too generous.

Josh: Are you near the Clifton Hill, uh, Maccas, George?

George: Well, right now I'm near—

Josh: No, as in the one near your place? Nah. Fitzroy North, would that be the closest?

George: Fitzroy North, yeah.

Josh: You're in Fitzroy North, are you? North Fitzroy?

George: Yeah. Yeah, I guess that would be the closest. Yeah.

Josh: Because they've got a brothel next door.

Mason: Really?

George: Oh, really?

Josh: Yeah.

George: There you go.

Josh: Yeah, I just thought that that was interesting. I've taken, if you've looked on my Instagram, It's an amazing McDonald's. It's like old school. And so I always am drawn to taking photos. But interestingly, yeah, there is a brothel next to it.

Tommy: Yeah, just bring in the smut.

Josh: Yeah, you can get a drive-through or whatever. Um, I, uh, I've been reading the book.

Tommy: Oh, good. Right, how many pages did you read faster on a Kindle?

Josh: Uh, hard to tell.

Mason: 15 pages.

Josh: No, 15%.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: Oh, that's great. It does give you the consistency.

George: It's quite a small book though, isn't it? It's quite thin. It is. How many pages in the book?

Josh: I don't know, but I'm 15% in. That's quite good.

Tommy: 15% is good, Josh.

George: Yeah.

Josh: How many are you in, George?

George: I haven't started.

Josh: Okay.

George: All right.

Josh: Well, so we know you're projecting. No, so there was these three, uh, three roles that, uh, that he was talking about. Um, so the, the Karpman Drama Triangle— have you heard about this? The KDT?

Tommy: Karpman Triangle.

Josh: Karpman Tri— so basically it's that there's these three roles that we always end up falling into, um, in drama, in life. Well, so one of them, so it's Victim, persecutor, and rescuer. And so, when I was reading it, I found that it was very interesting and it helped me. And so, I'll read this out to you now.

Tommy: Can I just quickly ask, what were you on Friday night?

Josh: Victim. Yeah, I was definitely a victim. But Basil was my rescuer. He was leaning right into that. And so, here you go. So, take the victim role. You pay quite the price. So, what he's talking about here is how these roles serve the early days, but then long-term they're destructive. So, you pay quite the price. You're stuck, you're powerless, you're whiny, you're sad, you're angry, you're building a reputation you don't want. And yet the wins, not wins, are that you're able to blame others for the situation. They did it. Avoid responsibility and become the centre of attention to people who love to save victims, as in Basil. Or the persecutor role. Downsides: you're frustrated, angry, shouty, lonely, exhausted, and overwhelmed. The wins-not-wins are you're able to blame others for things, uh, sorry, uh Oh, it's very hard. I've— it's, it's gone into the highlights. Uh-oh, it's a nightmare. Things going wrong feel superior to the turkeys you have to work with, maintain the illusion of control, and be righteously angry. And the rescuer role, the role most people quickly associate with, the price you pay is significant. You're exhausted, stuck on an endless treadmill of trying to fix everyone and everything. You're frustrated because you can't get to your own work as your fingers are in everyone else's pies. To add insult to injury, you perpetuate the KDT by knowing people can't do things themselves, thereby creating victims and persecutors. There you go. I thought that was interesting.

Tommy: From that, which one's— which one is more positive? Because they're saying that A rescuer has its negative side effects from it. You're always tired and I get it. It's the person that's always got people coming to them with their problems and it's like, oh God.

Josh: But I think that what I could identify potentially is just entering into them. Which, Sebbs, which one do you think you lean into out of those three?

Mason: I don't— I, I mean, he called it out, but I, I quickly identified with the rescuer.

Tommy: There's no— I mean, you don't have your license, you can't drive.

Josh: And who are you rescuing? You're not rescuing shit.

Mason: No, but I do, I do feel like I dip my fingers in.

Josh: Have you even got a bike? Do you even have a bike that you could rescue people on?

Mason: I do.

Josh: Dad's bike.

Mason: It's Dad's bike. Yeah, yeah, Dad's bike and Dad's under you.

Josh: The memoir. What do you think, George? What are you?

George: Yeah, I reckon I'm the same. I reckon I'm a rescuer. I'm Basil.

Josh: Yeah, I think everyone's Basil. I think that's the one that there's something nice about helping people. Or, but, um, what do you think, TJ?

Tommy: Do you think it's a male trait is to sort the problem, solve the problem? You know, your missus, partner tells you there's something, it's like, all right, here's what we're going to do. Sort this out. But it doesn't always help.

Josh: Put the—

Tommy: I think I—

Josh: and then when she puts it in, I blow up.

Tommy: Yeah, you know what, I'm fucking hiding in the cupboard and I'm gonna jump out and say, I got you.

Josh: What about glueing the cupboard?

Tommy: What about I put glue on the bag of the hand of the—

Josh: have you chucked out the bin? Because it could be good to actually put the bin back and allow the smell just to take over the place and be like, look, something's happened. We don't know what the smell is. It's horrendous.

Tommy: No, I've got the bag. I haven't emptied it, but I just put eggs into it. So it's primed. It's primed. I just, I think it's, this one's too big to fit into the cupboard. So she'll either go and put it in the bin for me, which would be handy and a great sort of, you know, weight off your shoulder. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: I'd be happy with that.

Josh: George. Did Hannah hear your toe content? What did she think of the toe banter?

George: Yeah, she actually loved it. She, I think she did anyway. Yeah, she liked the toe banter. She's got cute little toes. So, I think she was happy about that. There was a few things which I was gonna say and she said, "I'm so glad you didn't say that." Oh, now we want to know.

Josh: Yeah, what was it?

George: No, it was—

Tommy: You can't say it.

Josh: Billy Butt stuff. You're falling into the trap that I get into. Just like, now I've been told not to say it.

Mason: Yeah, I can't say it, but—

Josh: However, it is pretty funny.

George: Yeah. So, no, she was happy with it. She loved the spooning bit because she's a big spoon.

Tommy: Yeah, that's cute.

Josh: Right?

Tommy: Very cute. Very cute.

Josh: That's a daily talk show.

Mason: Just before we go, we got a message on Instagram from Jackie. She said, just wanted to say what an excellent trio of episodes 657, 658 and 659 were. I tuned out of most podcasts for a few weeks recently because of the world's shit, but my— and my brain has just been so overloaded. But I jumped back into it with Gem, Grace, and Forto, and I'm gutted that I'm playing catch-up and not listening to these in real time. I was watching/listening and realised I missed out on so much. I miss listening to you guys. These were really enjoyable eps, so thank you guys. Now to cut— catch up on the rest of the eps I've missed.

George: Jackie.

Josh: Thanks, Jackie.

Tommy: Thanks, Jackie. Appreciate it.

Josh: Uh, we need to, uh, have more guests on the show. If you've got suggestions on, on, uh, gronks we should get back, let us know.

Tommy: Yeah, who have you loved?

Josh: Yeah, we're gonna have Harry on the show, Savo, 4 PM. So, uh, join us for that. And, uh, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts. Uh, you can even watch us live at youtube.com/thedailytalkshow. Reviews, comments, all that stuff, uh, very much appreciated. Otherwise, uh, we'll see you at 4 PM. No dislikes.

Mason: Yeah, dislikes. Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Yeah, absolutely.

Josh: Hit that like button. All right, have a good one, guys.