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Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 639. What's happening, guys? What is going on? What is going on in, uh, Collingwood, Josh? Because you aren't in the studio right now.

Josh: Uh, look, it's a beautiful day, top of 25.

Tommy: It's the end of the day, buddy, at my, uh, home office.

Josh: Feeling good.

Tommy: It feels strange. Uh, I mean, this is what it felt like for 3 months when you were overseas.

Josh: Yeah. So, um, like, obviously just the remote bit, not everything that's happening.

Tommy: Yeah, mate, you were, you were in Italy, you were in the epicenter.

Josh: Uh, yeah, so we've decided, um, we're trialing, we're trying to get all of our remote stuff dialled in so that we don't need to be in the same room all the time.

Tommy: It's the, um, it's the same mindset as the, the doomsday preppers, the people buying all the toilet paper. That it's the, it's we've got to be prepared. So we're just doing that version but for us, uh, and the podcast. Imagine how many people's heads today are just exploding based on fucking poor internet or phone usage. Just like too many people on— we— so yesterday we released the episode with Peter Shepherd and we recorded that last Friday. And I'm glad you said on that episode that we're recording on Friday, so if shit happens over the weekend, we we apologize, we can't be covering that obviously because shit has hit the fan.

Josh: Yeah, well, I don't know if that much has really changed. Well, you think?

Tommy: Uh, I think the—

Josh: I think public perception—

Tommy: well, if you look at— that's what I was saying to Mason in the car, I was like, if people aren't thinking there's no— if people are thinking there's no problem with this thing, they have not looked at what is going on around the world. Like It is not like Australia is the only place having, uh, people infected with coronavirus. Like, that is the— because if you look to Italy or to America, or I mean, even just today they've closed all bars, restaurants, um, across New York City and also Los Angeles, which is huge. And then Spain, Paris, complete lockdown. I mean, this is not to sort of create the fear, but Jesus, it does create the fear, right?

Josh: Most people are Probably across the right. I think like the interesting thing is what happens when big stuff happens and you need to make big decisions quickly and you have a family or you've got a partner. Like on the weekend, I found myself trying to work out like, how, how do I communicate how I'm feeling? How do I communicate how I'm feeling.

Tommy: You wrote a poem, didn't you?

Josh: Can you read that?

Tommy: Can you just— It was a haiku.

Josh: I did an improvisational dance to, um, It's the End of the World. Um, but the hard thing about, uh, how do I express how I'm feeling without being alarmist but also, um, moving on stuff?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And I think that, like, at the moment, if you look on social media I get sort of dismayed by everyone who's saying, um, you know, chill the fuck out, because surely it's okay, like, not to be completely chill when these things are happening.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I mean, there's some funny comedians, um, like Jim Jefferies. What did he say? He said, um, he said, uh, when a, when an ant, when a 'What do you call it? Like a vaccination comes out in the next, you know, 6 months, anti-vaxxers better stick to their guns.' I thought it was quite funny.

Josh: Yeah, well, Twitter, it feels like Twitter's been, you know, had a lot of that type of content.

Tommy: So, yeah, mate of mine, Cade, has coronavirus. He came back from Italy. You actually met his brother Mason and Josh in LA, and he got back and he didn't even feel sick. Other than just being on a long flight and feeling a bit fucking jet lagged. But he'd been in the epicenter, like close to where it was all happening. And yeah, has it.

Josh: Who have you been talking to? Do you find like, have you found that you're speaking to certain mates or certain family?

Tommy: I'm blown away at some of the people that I thought would be more thinking this is a thing, but they're not.

Josh: Conspiracy Jimmy thing.

Tommy: You just guessed it. He— I've never— I, I was alarmed at that moment. It's like when you're speaking to your mother and you're like, you, you know of something, you know something is fact, and, and you're like, Mum has got this so fucking wrong. What planet is she on? That's what I felt like.

Josh: But yeah, what was Conspiracy Jimmy saying? Because Conspiracy Jimmy is known for being the guy to have radical ideas.

Mason: He—

Tommy: yeah, I mean, you don't get that name for just being the guy that's pretty conservative.

Josh: Exactly. And so, um, yeah, what's Conspiracy Jimmy saying?

Tommy: Uh, he is, uh, don't worry about it.

Josh: Which is he— is he like prepared to be at home and sort of lockdowns and things like that.

Tommy: I mean, what is prepared to be at home? What does that look like to you?

Josh: Well, this is the— this is what Bri and I were discussing over the weekend and what was a contentious issue. Because if we know anything about me, I enjoy being at home. Yeah. And so when Bri says, hey, we've got dinner tonight with my, you know, with my dad and my stepmom, actually, she says that Yeah, absolutely not. And so, the hard thing is that it's— there's this weird thing that's happening where everyone's saying, "Oh, well, if things are going to get shut down, like, this might be one of my last chances in a long time to do this." Yeah. Whereas I feel like it's— we should already be socially distancing or whatever they're calling it.

Tommy: Yeah. Well, they've— Victoria and a bunch of other states are in a, um, state of emergency, which just like, uh, it's weird. It is like the doomsday movies without that sound, if that's freaking you out, and I didn't mean to. But the— in terms of how they sort of— it makes no sense to most unless they explain it to us, which I— Mr. 97 and I were driving around today and we heard, and they said that the state of emergency thing, I'm pretty sure, is like activating their authority to sort of implement the, the quarantine stuff, and then also on the other side, um, discipline people who aren't acting on it. It's like war times, man. My head is sore. Like, I am tired. Like, I've never swiped as much.

Josh: Like, I, I didn't get swiped as much, man.

Tommy: Well, I didn't get on Tinder as a single guy, really. Like, I fucked around, didn't— never.

Josh: Now, now that it's doomsday, you're like, no.

Tommy: I could imagine it's like a young testosterone-fueled male that's not, not, not like Sev's, but just swiping on Tinder. Just like, but just like, mate, what are you swiping? Too many options. I'm swiping news articles and Twitter and Reddit and the deep dark corners of the internet. Um, but yeah, they're not— but I think the thing is you, you get in the rabbit hole of that, but then just text somebody and say what, what's going on. Like Scott Tweedy, reached out to him. He's in New York City, moved over there to to do a TV show. So, he's just landed this dream job and now he's staying at home. And he said that New York is about to— I said, that was probably 5 hours ago, I said, is New York in lockdown yet? He says, no, but almost. Most— so many people have— everyone's working from home, but most people are leaving out of the city to go and stay at parents' houses or, you know, places off the island.

Josh: Uh, Andrew in the comments is, uh, on YouTube Live, you said, uh, what do you think about, uh, working, uh, like doctors at the moment? How, um, uh, is it like— do you think it's dangerous? I think is what he's saying.

Tommy: Have you started to read? Are you struggling to read?

Josh: Is it— well, I think English is his second language, so the actual thing is, why do you think about working like doctors at this time?

Tommy: Yeah, no, I get you, I get you.

Josh: How it is dangerous. So, um, No, I— Well, that's the whole point. I think that like for us, we're so lucky that the types of jobs that we have, the point that you— of working remotely and doing all these sorts of things is to try and reduce the burden for the medical industry. So, for hospitals, for doctors, for all of that sort of stuff. So, the less people who are getting infected, the less people that are going to be at the hospital.

Tommy: I mean, they're fucking heroes. Like, if it's— it is crazy. But then you look at— I mean, yeah, that's full stop. And then Matt Diavella mentions that he has a bit of a cold and he cannot find anywhere to test him in his area in Los Angeles.

Josh: Like, this is the crazy thing. Scooter's saying New South Wales just shut down public libraries. He said he wishes Victoria would too because his partner works in a library. Yeah, I think the thing around getting tested and stuff like that, I guess, is what happens if you get tested?

Tommy: What happens?

Josh: Like, as in, like, what's the— If you're— If you are that sort of low-level point, what is the benefit of actually going and getting tested?

Tommy: Yeah, but I guess what you're saying is even if you're posing that question, there, there's obviously a barrier between the health— like, getting—

Josh: it's not easy to get tested, right? But it's not like you're going to get tested and there's— you're essentially going to get, um, quarantined.

Tommy: I see what you're saying is just quarantine like you've got it.

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: I mean, I feel— I mean, this— the other interesting thing is, um, it feels like it's hard in this time because you, uh, if you think about what, uh, Michael Bungay Stanier talks about with all that giving advice and all that sort of shit—

Tommy: what's the real problem?

Josh: Yeah, don't you think? Don't you think? Yeah, what— yeah, what's your real challenge here? Don't you think that it's, uh, it's hard not to get into like evangelical mode when shit's happening.

Tommy: Well, I reckon for you and me, yeah, but maybe not Sevs. Uh, I don't think Sevs is the guy to sort of—

Josh: I mean, I have an opinion.

Tommy: I'm trying. I said, mate, what's going on? What's happening? Like, I'm trying to get him to just, just try and rattle me or something. He just won't. He just won't. He's like, yeah, it's bad. Yeah, Italy, wow.

Josh: Are you— when you you hear, uh, Josh, Tommy and I talk about this shit, uh, and then you hear what the conversations are like with your family, is it a, is it a big contrast?

Mason: Um, no, I don't think it's a big contrast. It's, it's a, it's a bigger contrast between what I'm thinking about versus what my family is thinking about. So my family's probably more towards what you and Tommy are thinking about, and I've sort of I'm separated from that. I don't, I don't think about it, I guess, in a, I guess, critical way as you guys do.

Tommy: Fuck, he's a log, isn't he? Just a hollow log. I mean, just we're filling his log with our bloody information.

Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, look, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go to the point of ordering beans Yeah, well, because that's what I've done.

Tommy: Yeah, because you—

Josh: because you can't—

Tommy: Mummy didn't give you a credit card.

Josh: Well, I think like, yeah, this is the interesting thing. So on preparedness, what do you think, TJ? Like, there's the— there's the argument that it's like, don't take too much stuff because we need to leave stuff for others. And then there's the thing of like, we're going to, uh, be indoors for a very long time, we need to prepare for a lockdown.

Tommy: So I left on Saturday morning. So I was actually feeling a bit sick, like, and this is where I've been fighting off a cold for weeks, I think, like, each, and it's got to each weekend and I've somehow, like, recovered. But I was, like, feeling a bit under the weather Saturday. I'm just like, fuck, dude, after listening to my boy Sam Harris's podcasts, he's released two about it. And they're not— they don't come across as super alarming, but I think the information in them, you can extrapolate and make some just logical conclusions based on some information from some very intelligent people, which then makes you go, holy fuck. Like, that's all it is, like, it's just logic, like, it's a little bit of logic from some solid, solid information from a smart person equals shit, even if it's— I'm not going to the point of 6 months, uh, we're locking down for, even thinking there, but I'm like, just a bit. And so I got in, um, I don't know, there's something— it's like when the house burnt down next to my house and I was just in flight mode, plus I was videoing the— you know, I was fucking filming while also hosing. And, um, just like when the flood happened next to my house in the, um, the, the townhouse next door to me. I was just— I'm on, I'm just fucking— there's something—

Josh: become aware. It's like when my cage, cage was broken into, um, downstairs in like the garage area, uh, you know, 2 weeks ago. All of a sudden you start to consider those types of things more. It's like, okay, um, you know, like parking closer and doing all that, that type of stuff.

Tommy: So I— yeah, so I went down to the the Coles, and I said, Amy, I'm going to get us some stuff. And I went down, I just did— I did the bait, I did— I got like, I got what I could because there was—

Josh: you have a plan?

Tommy: Did you Google what to buy? No, no, mate, I'm not a fucker. I'm not— I've cooked before, I've meal prepped. I could, I could keep the three of us alive for at least a year if I just went and did the shopping. No, but I just got, I got shit like pasta, oats, some frozen veggies. I was trying to get some greens, some— but anyway, did one of those shops.

Josh: Like, all right, MasterChef, Aristos.

Tommy: And then I, and then, um, I did it again later with Amy because I was like, we need to get a few other things. And so Amy and I went back and I got nappies. I was so, so fortunate.

Josh: So now you don't even have to go to the toilet?

Tommy: Nah, the Bodhi's— no, we don't have nappies for Bodhi. He's toilet trained. I'm going backwards. No, but I, um, so we did two shops, which was interesting, and we've just got a bunch of good stuff that we need to make. But, um, but no, it was more just like, yeah, now we're gonna make it. I've blown the budget for what we can spend, so we've got no cash to spend on going out, which is self-enforced. Yeah, no spending on out going out or coffee for, you know, any of that shit. So I bought instant coffee, for God's sakes. That's how fucking desperate—

Josh: Well, Bri asked, she messaged me when she was at the shops, asked, do you want instant coffee? I said no.

Tommy: Um, dude, you'll convert, bro.

Josh: You know, also, we've already— we contacted over the weekend, we contacted a, um, uh, coffee roaster place. Yeah. And got some, put some aside. But, um, no, yeah, it's, it's interesting. I think that the hard thing is that people Um, uh, George says Josh needs some black bean recipes. Yeah, that's true. So what I, uh, I wasn't going to talk about it because I know that people, um, are so judgmental.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And, um, if there is an apocalypse, I don't want anyone coming after me. Um, and there's also, there's, uh, there's also been news articles about people flexing their supplies. Yeah. Which I think is so funny. So it's just like, um, on a lot of these like Facebook groups, like mums have been called out for like taking photos of their pantry.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so I said to Bree, was very proud of our freezer.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Um, I said, just, you can take photos but no posting, please.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's, um, it is, it's such a weird thing because when it becomes, if it becomes something real serious, all that shit just goes out the window because it It's like, I mean, Dan Bilzerian's a good place to get your sort of news headlines. He just tweeted.

Josh: So who is he?

Tommy: Oh, he's that, he's that, uh, poker player, made a lot of money, um, like womanizer. I mean, he's just, he's basically, he's got a weed business now and, um, he's made a lot of money. And we, you saw when we were at Grant Smiley's bar EP LP in Los Angeles, you could see his mega mansion. It's worth like $100 million or something. Anyway, he has these parties and he's got this business and girls always walking around in next to nothing. Yeah, he basically owns a modelling agency, which he was like a, you know, always sort of these photos with women, you know, with their tits out just fucking all over him.

Josh: And anyway, it looks like being on Instagram. I feel like it looks like he's running across Early days, I feel like his Instagram content would come up a lot. I don't see it as much.

Tommy: What, on your, on your page?

Josh: Just, no, just in general. I just feel like it was a big— yeah, I feel like I followed him. Yeah, maybe that's all it was, but I feel like I saw a lot of him.

Tommy: I know what you're saying. He's got like 16 million followers or something. Anyway, he— that, I think that sums him up. But he tweeted that you better get your affairs in order, uh, there's going to be a nationwide lockdown in the next 48 hours.

Josh: Which— so what, what people have been saying—

Tommy: that's USA, USA, USA is what I'm saying, in the US.

Josh: So people are saying, um, when you say those types of things, that you are alarmist and fear-mongering and it's unproductive. Um, when, when should information come out and when should we talk about things and when shouldn't we?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I think if we were coming out and repeating his information and then saying, yes, that's what's going on, that's what I believe, that's probably a bit—

Josh: but isn't it all implied? Like, if you're like, ah, this is what people are saying, fuck.

Tommy: I, I mean, I would want to know even if I then can put my filter on it. This is where I have empathy is like for some reason I felt emotional and I fucking had a little cry on the weekend for something. I was— I don't— I couldn't— I can't even— I'm not in touch with my emotions enough to know what I was crying about, but it was definitely something to do with all of what's going on.

Josh: And were you at Coles at the time?

Tommy: No, no, I was just— I think it was with Bodhi and Amy and just like the— when you're just together with your little tribe and you're just, you're just, just fucking thinking. And I think I'd just been consuming a lot and I'd been caught up in it and I just had a little cry. But I definitely feel more after that moment. I then felt more connected to the people that were saying, for people with anxiety and mental illness at the moment, this is really tough. And so I get how, because it's all-consuming, right? And so there needs to be some sort of just dropping back from that in some instances. So, but I know I see it, so I'm in this place of I'm over-consuming and I'm also feeling what I think some people would be feeling, but then I don't want to be not in the— no, like, I don't want to not—

Josh: but also it feels like if, if, um, like, you speak to people, like, I've spoken to mates over the last, like, 24 hours and there's still people that's like, oh yeah, Haven't really gotten it. George, he, um, he got some ingredients. Yeah, some tuna, and he ate it all last night.

Tommy: Yeah, I think, I think later in the week we'll have an official statement about this incident from George himself.

Josh: But, um, so I do wonder, it's like, I completely understand the importance of just not going absolutely crazy in regards to from a This is fucked. This is, you know, whatever. But it also feels like, do we need to have some of that? Like, if I didn't have that, I wouldn't have gone out and gotten my black beans, which my black beans have not arrived yet.

Tommy: So, you don't have black beans yet?

Josh: Because I got them from an online store.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so—

Tommy: Is this going to be like my mum's incense? Have I told you this story?

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Oh, she told us.

Tommy: She showed me the bag that it came in and like all the sort of all the stamps on it and full on. You're going to get your black beans in after. Maybe you're the guy, like they steal them somehow. It all goes to shit and then somehow your order gets fulfilled and you're like a year ahead of everyone else.

Josh: Yura says hi from the Ukraine. Hi, Yura.

Tommy: Hey, what's going on in the Ukraine? How are you feeling about the, uh, COVID-19 and, uh, and its impact on you?

Josh: Good flex calling it COVID-19. It's a little bit more woke, a little bit more, uh, educated.

Mason: Showbaker Alex says someone on Twitter said it's like a weird early Thanksgiving in the US where everyone is going home to their parents.

Tommy: Yeah, man. Um, Reece Mitchell, my good mate, he's back in LA now and he said, I was speaking to him, he said it's chaos. He said it's fucking a bizarre feeling right now for that city.

Josh: So what have you learned about yourself? What are you, 97, specifically you?

Tommy: We want to fill that wood out a bit.

Josh: Yeah. What's the, what are you actually thinking about? What's going on up there?

Mason: Well, yeah, you've got, you've got a haircut at the weekend.

Tommy: That was his priority.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorting the hair out. No, I mean, you've, you've sent me a few like, um, resources and things to consume.

Tommy: Um, no, he asked what you've done.

Mason: I know, I know. And, and so, and so from, from I guess extracting that information and then from what's been conveyed, uh, I guess like on the news and, and the radio and all that sort of stuff, I mean Yeah, I mean, it seems like there's something that, that you're meant to sort of keep at arm's length and just sort of like you're aware and cautious of it.

Josh: 1.5 metres is the safe distance.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mason: And, and so if you— yeah, I mean, I'm just sort of keeping an eye on it. Like, I probably won't go to the gym this week, but same.

Josh: I mean, yeah, I'm definitely— I mean, the thing is Yeah, so hang on, what about this?

Tommy: So it's like, because I don't think it's about the sickness. And I spoke to a friend who has an elderly mother who has, who is a high-risk person, that if they're infected, that'd be super high risk. Um, and my head wasn't there, and his head is there about this, you know, what it means for the people around him. That isn't in my head. So I think everybody has a version of their thinking outside of Mr.

Josh: 97, which is an edge case.

Tommy: There's not much there, but I think everyone has a version of where it connects to them and why it connects to them. And so, but I think what everybody like— so if there is just— everyone has to go home, like, that's all you have to do, just work from home, regardless of what business or, you know, industry you're in. Are you even prepared for that? I think that's— and that's— and not to go overboard on that But I think that's something that I— that the people you see, Josh, that are still out at, you know, clubs or whatever, or doing this, that's where I don't even think they've let it access them.

Josh: So here's a question: if work stops, if for all of a sudden, um, a bunch of industries like restaurants close down and things like that, what is the obligation of the employer in that moment. Like, are people still going to get paid? That's what I guess a lot of people are wondering.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: And that's like, these are the questions that are, um, these obvious things that don't necessarily get answered. Like, the Australian government, you know, provided tax breaks, and there's a, like, I think 6 million-odd people that are getting that $750. Yeah, stimulus. But, um, I think that that's part of it is it's just like how many jobs, if you're working from home, yeah, aren't actually going to be productive or, um, just don't exist, uh, at home.

Tommy: Yeah. So I'll tell you, I, I think I could answer it. I think there'll be some businesses that do the right— do the right thing, or the humane thing, or the supportive thing in a hard time. The ones that can afford it will somehow pay staff, um, casuals and stuff. I mean, if you're trying to save money, that's where you go to. Like, this is the thing about this, even saving money if you're—

Josh: if your business isn't making revenue.

Tommy: Yeah, so it's a whole business if saving the inevitable going under, that's what I'm trying to say, I guess. So our accountants RBK sent us through, um, some information about that cash that businesses can access, you're never actually accessing it. It's given to us in tax credits. So the ATO and your— say at the end of the month you submit your BAS and you've got your GST charge, your payroll, and your super. So this is— it's only got anything to do with your BAS, which is the payroll tax and the GST owed.

Josh: And so it's a way of encouraging people, businesses, to keep those salaries on, right? Because they're not paying as much tax on those salaries.

Tommy: So that, yeah, they're saying like if you continue to pay salaries, there's like, um, it says if employee— what does it say? Um, the payment will be delivered by the ATO as a credit in the activity statement system. So it just means that the end of this quarter when we usually get hit with a bill for the payroll tax, which serves— yours is like so low because you do the super thing, you know, salary sacrifice. So it is only a certain portion and it's only up to $25,000. And so there's— it's already— so like, that is some relief for the people that have lots of staff, but it's not like, it's not like they're going to send out $25k to small businesses, which— yeah, that's what all I wanted to know. I was like, how do you get this cash? Because we're a small business and we've got employees and we need and we need to work this out. And so, yeah, it's businesses under $50 million in turnover. So we just scrape by, we just scrape into that, you know, we're at 49.99.

Josh: The, um, uh, Lid writes, uh, first day of online school, how long can I deal with my family? Uh, yeah, the school thing's interesting. So Happy Harry, he's studying at the moment He's basically being told, if you don't go to school, you will be marked as absent and you get very few absent, like, marks before you can't pass.

Tommy: Oh, that would have pushed me over the edge.

Josh: Yeah. And so, anyway, but he's just said 15 minutes ago, he said, looks like the student union is fighting the uni saying, cancel the course. Like, the weirdest bit I think about this whole thing is it's like this free will/rules and what the government tells us to do and what our bosses tell us to do. What, like, like the 500-person limit thing. What I don't understand, so in Australia— Oh, sorry. Is it Melbourne? No, Australia.

Tommy: It's Australia.

Josh: They're doing the 500 limit. So, if you've— you can't have an event that's got more than 500 people, you know, congregating in one, one space. Yeah. The weird thing is that the Prime Minister said, okay, it's going to start on Monday, which is— it sounds like me with all my food habits.

Tommy: It's actually everybody who's decided on a new goal, new diet. It's just Monday.

Josh: And so, um, but then on the weekend People are like, oh, fuck, better use that opportunity. So they're going to these big events, or there was, um, a festival that was on that was like, oh well, we're a film festival and there's not going to be 500 people in each, um, thing, so technically we're going to keep going, guys. Yeah, but then like, are people missing the point that like the government's not talking to like coronavirus and saying, hey guys, can you just avoid anything that's below 500? Like, it's, it's, it blows my mind.

Tommy: Yeah, no, exactly. I, I see that point exactly.

Josh: It's so— yeah, I just don't know what the— I, I think that, um, obviously there's the, uh, everyone wants to be that rational version of being like, ah, everything's fine, like, let's be cool. But I also think that Like, I think we can be a little bit pissed off with some of the things. Like, some of the things I think that are happening and the way that people are approaching it is not ideal, and it's all it's going to cause is more issues in the future. By us setting up and getting our shit sorted now, it means that, like, when there is actual chaos, when food actually is a problem, we can stay away from it. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I mean, if, if, if your business has been affected directly and you don't think there's an issue, well, it's not going to be a big thing. I don't know how that is the conclusion, because my— if the input to me, if that— if I'm directly affected through my business, the output for me is there's an issue here. To the degree of that sort of feeling is, is, uh, I don't know, up for the gravity of how much the effect is on the business. But I still think that's there. And so like in terms of aim, like there's been some stuff we've been working on that there's no response.

Josh: No.

Tommy: And I get it. And so that's where I'm like, oh, I think you reside— I don't know, I think when there's more at stake for people, it gets harder. And it gets harder and harder. And so that's where it's— it is— it's nuanced. But I think, um, a friend of mine said, you know, people talk about resilience, and this is a real— like, people sort of are promoting and talking, and guys, it's all about resilience. It's like, fuck, this is it. This is our time to activate whatever resilience inside of us we have.

Josh: Yeah. Um, but then, yeah, shower after you shit. Don't use toilet paper. That's resilient. That's real resilience. The, um, and so our plan— so we've been talking over the last few days about what we want to do.

Tommy: Yeah, some of those show updates.

Josh: Jeez, that's what we're doing, the show update. Uh, so, uh, you and 97, uh, putting together your working from home stuff. Yeah, 87's getting his internet upgraded, uh, in like 5 days' time. So Sevs will be, uh— oh, g'day, Alex Icon!

Tommy: Alex, hey bro!

Josh: Uh, so he'll be better placed. You'll be working from home, uh, and then the exciting opportunity is—

Tommy: oh, but hang on, sorry, does Alex know that we're going to be at his place at 6 PM tonight and we're going to do an episode, the whole thing?

Josh: I'm hoping, um, well, Mimi definitely doesn't know about it from Alex. Um, yeah, maybe we could have some night— actually, I'd love some help with some cooking, Alex. Maybe some black beans. Actually, just, just on Alex and cooking, uh, one of the most, uh, awe-inspiring things I've ever seen was his, uh, morning rituals. And, uh, he cooked sweet potato for breakfast.

Tommy: That is—

Josh: that was just— that was inspiring.

Tommy: Yeah, look, not to bring it down a bit, but Josh, you can too, bro. You could put it in the microwave. That's one way to cook it.

Josh: Not saying that, but he roasted them.

Tommy: Okay, well, that's—

Josh: yeah, prep. And I probably put a little bit of— I'm sure there was some form of like salt. Yeah, but Himalayan. So the plan is we're going to do a bunch of shows, and, um, he said that was without kids. Yeah, um, but I've got no excuse.

Tommy: Amen, Alex.

Josh: And so, let's— One of the exciting things is the different types of guests that we can have on. So, being completely remote, having— There's only so much you can listen to us gronks talking about—

Tommy: What's going on.

Josh: You know. Yeah. All this sort of shit. So, I think that the exciting thing is let's have different people on. Let's have people from around the world. Let's— Yeah. Like, I cringe a little bit at like the, um, the happy news filter. Like, um, this thing of like, it's the cliché right now is like, uh, oh, here's just happy new— like, here's some happy news. I'm always like, uh, I don't have time for happy news, I'm, I'm preparing my black beans.

Tommy: Um, no, I know what you mean. But so just to put it in, uh, sort of a real moment in that, we're no longer doing guests in our studio for the foreseeable future.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Alex is saying, um, to invite him, he can jump on.

Tommy: I would love to have you on, love to have you on, mate.

Josh: Should we, should we try it now?

Tommy: Or how do you do that?

Josh: I mean, the thing is, I need to work out how to— actually, no, I could do it. Give it a few seconds. So, uh, 97, public transport. Yeah, what's, what's the, what's the sort of Like in Melbourne. Oh, not now, he said. He's got—

Tommy: he's cooking sweet potatoes.

Josh: I was pumped. I was ready. Mimi's like, you've done it again. I said, fucking no, they're here now. It's like, you've got to accept it. It's like, um, and Mimi's here too. I'm sort of busy. Ah, um, Butterbean says, Josh, you can finally move to a remote house in Tasmania and live a happy scheduled life. I am so pumped for this, Butterbean. And the thing is, like, I like to think that it's obviously the un— What's it called? Unselfish thing of just, like, not getting people infected. But I'm also very pumped with just chilling out. Look at all the books that I've got, guys.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I can read for days. I've got the survival guide book coming in the next few days from—

Tommy: Matt Damon, just settle down. Settle down.

Josh: I started watching that movie.

Tommy: Boring. Nah, geez. All right, um, so what, what's another update? Simple, uh, BK said I'll jump. Yeah, that'd be great, uh, from the Tesla. Great, that'd be sick. Uh, yeah, we'll get, um, Derek on. A bunch of people are on. And so, and then we're just sort of— I mean, we're just gonna play it out. That's what I said. My biggest thing is look at what the conversation was last Tuesday when So every— it's because we had the public holiday on Monday, then we came back to work on Tuesday. From Tuesday to Friday, the difference in the conversation. And so it's just like, let's look at the conversation from Monday to Friday, and then it's like, is there a lot of difference? And if so, but if not, yeah, I think there's already change in conversation around it.

Josh: I think that the one bit of feedback is trying to be present.

Tommy: For me Yeah, that's the one thing about not being in the same studio. It's— are you just talking? Are you saying that I—

Mason: you're giving me feedback?

Josh: No, no, no, this is just like a thought for everyone.

Tommy: Yeah, geez, say, say that because I thought you were talking to me.

Josh: Well, mainly myself. No, I think that like it's so easy to get revved up at the moment, like especially being out and about. Like, um, uh, a lady was standing too close to me, like, so I went outside. Bree. Wanted to get a coffee. And so, I'm like, I'm going to sit outside of the cafe. And a lady was standing very close to me.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And I was just wanting to say, hey, lady, fuck off. But I didn't.

Mason: I know.

Josh: But I caught myself thinking that. And so, I was like, I'm clearly a little bit agitated.

Tommy: No, no.

Josh: But I know that that's going to be a thing. Like, I know that if I didn't do click and collect, like buying groceries online, if I didn't do that, And I didn't do all that, and I had to actually go in and deal. Like, it just— just being in the click and collect line, you got a bit punchy. Because there was, um, everyone basically had lined up. They'd gotten out of their cars and parked a little bit further out so that people could line up. Yeah, they normally— where people reverse their car. Yeah. And then this guy just tooting his horn, he's just like, reverse it, like got every— all the line to move so he could reverse in and get his things.

Tommy: I was just like, I just—

Josh: I didn't— I was just like, you know what, it's all good. I mean, we're very lucky that we have access to food. Oh, and I've got my black beans coming.

Tommy: It is— no, that is a good point. There is a moment to be grateful for the situation if you are in one that is somehow— I mean, you can say you can find gratitude in any moment, but But not sure. No, but I'm trying to say that I'm sure there's fucking times in people's lives where hearing that from someone like me is an absolute pain in the ass. And so I'm just trying to say that for, like, for us right now here in this room, though I can only talk for myself and you guys—

Josh: don't speak for me—

Tommy: no, but we can be very grateful where we're at in the country we're in, all those things. So, um, it's important because I definitely have lost the— lost some side of being gratitude in the last little moment because I'm not— because I'm so focused somewhere else. So that's all it is, it's like trying to shift to some, some gratitude. But I haven't given up my meditation. And if you want to meditate, if you— if there is just a bit much going on in your head, what a fucking time to start meditating. Sam Harris, who, uh, has done some amazing podcasts about the coronavirus stuff. He's a neuroscientist. His app is free for people that can't afford it, and now's the time when people can't afford this shit, and you can get it for free.

Josh: Just give a live rate.

Tommy: This is— I might— I'll give him a live rate. It's, it's been a lifesaver for me. samharris.org. And then you go to his Instagram account because he put up like a thing where you can swipe through and he's talking about it, and he can put in show notes, two email addresses and he gives you a year's subscription totally free, which is fucking amazing. It's like a $150 a year meditation tool, and it's so good. So it's, um, people like that doing some good shit.

Josh: And then there's me stealing everyone else's black beans, just trying to just breathe, just asking, breathe, you know? To be honest, I'm just— yeah, a lot of farting.

Tommy: Just fart.

Josh: I have to actually, um, We'll have to rinse, like with the canned beans. Oh mate, what do you need to—

Mason: chemicals and stuff?

Josh: No, there's not chemicals, just organic.

Tommy: Just put them into a strainer, sifter, put some water in it, bro, you're all good.

Josh: I keep the juices though for the chilli con carne.

Tommy: Absolutely not. I don't. You might put—

Mason: you—

Tommy: some recipes might say that, but get rid of it. Anyhow, um, I'm excited for the show and connecting with people around the world.

Josh: And it's gonna be great.

Tommy: Um, I think there's, um, in a time where, yeah, it is tough for a lot, we can, um, hopefully sort of bring some, some, uh, companionship or like, you know, just being people's ears and eyes.

Josh: Can we do them together?

Tommy: Yeah, depending.

Josh: Would it be 2 hours?

Tommy: We could, I mean, we could easily once my setup's dialled in at home and I, I just, it's just I gotta get it a bit comfy. As in just get, get the setup going and somehow work out where it's not going to be in reach of my son to pull down the screen and break everything.

Josh: So I think there's people eating hot chips outside, so yeah, it's not the end of the world yet.

Tommy: Oh really? That's a— that's living the life.

Josh: Yeah, it's a daily talk show. Uh, if you enjoyed the show, uh, we're going to try and do more live streams. Do you think, Mace, uh, YouTube works pretty well actually?

Tommy: I think it's amazing. Like, think about it, we have over 10K subscribers now. On youtube.com/thedailytalkshow.

Josh: Yeah, let's, let's do it on YouTube. I think that's the way to do it. What do we think? Just a quick little tech thing. Do we, do we want to keep using Zoom, do you think? Uh, pretty easy.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it is pretty easy. You guys sort that out. I gotta speak to my wife.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Um, see you guys. Love you, love you.

Josh: Tommy says, uh, Shannon, uh, you need to set up like Dax and Monica, armchair expert. Chairs.

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's a good idea.

Josh: Looks pretty comfy to me.

Tommy: I gotta really call my wife back, I can't get it.

Josh: All right, today's talk show, if you enjoyed the show, please leave us an Apple Podcast review. Thanks, uh, um, Derek, he says yep to Zoom. I think it works pretty well. Anything else, Evs?

Mason: Uh, just quickly, we got a review from Emily from Ohio. Uh, I'm a university student and commute to class and listen to this podcast every morning. My mornings have become so much more enjoyable from listening, and now I look forward to them. Josh, Tommy, and Mr. 97 are so down to earth and funny. The conversations they have combine lighthearted moments with deep conversations about life. I can't stop listening and recommending their podcast to everyone. Please take the time to listen, as these gronks are amazing.

Josh: You know, I— you know how I've been waking up at like 4 in the morning? Yeah. I had a moment of panic.

Mason: I had a panic last night, just a little nightmare.

Josh: Really? Well, so my panic was in relation to Emily.

Mason: Really?

Josh: Oh, no.

Mason: What happened during the book club?

Josh: Ohio. So, I introduced her and said multiple times, oh, this is Emily, she's from Iowa. It's not Iowa and Ohio. Are different things. Iowa. So one of them's— I don't know how to spell Iowa. Do you know how to spell Iowa? Um, I-O-H-I-O-W-A.

Mason: No, it's I-O-W-A.

Josh: And so she's in—

Tommy: I'll see you soon.

Josh: I— Ohio.

Mason: Yes, she's in Ohio.

Tommy: Sorry, are we still going? She's from where?

Josh: Um, um, Bree's asking to go for a walk, so I've got to go.

Tommy: Okay. Oh, now you're gonna go? All right, Mason, let's, let's stick around for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm joking. I don't want to.

Josh: Thank you. That will freaking wait.

Tommy: I know Mason was me to ask me.

Josh: Yeah, what was it? No, I want to know, Seb's, what was your question for me? What was your midnight trauma?

Mason: Oh, I just, um, stuff getting stolen from my house.

Tommy: Okay, let's not, let's not go there.

Josh: Well, that's not good. Um, but just very quickly, also George has an, uh, an update for us from, um, uh, Kaz, who's a, um, an avid, um, book club— actually, so we did book club on Saturday, it was epic. And Karen, uh, George's mum, is my favorite, uh, vice president. I know I said that Emma was the vice president. We have two vice presidents because Karen really performed. Um, I think Mum updated T2TS book club link, so your redirect isn't working, Saws. 15% off for group special code Gronks. Yeah, and the Advice Trap is now on the Daily Talk Show book club category, so that's going to be the book for April.

Tommy: Yeah, I love that. And the Advice Trap, and there's no better time to support small business. Yeah, and that's one to support, so go.

Josh: And, um, yeah, yeah, Google the Book Room at Byron and you'll find it.

Mason: We'll update the link anyway. Yeah, the daily talk. Yep, easy.

Tommy: All right guys, stay safe. I love you, love you, love you all.

Josh: I love you. All right, should I end the live stream now?

Mason: Great.

Josh: Bye everyone.

Tommy: See you guys.