The Baseball Pitcher

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 913.

Tommy: Weekend banter. Jess Lucas in the building. Mr. 97.

Josh: Hello, Jessica. Hello, Mr. 97. Yes, Seb, what were you going to say?

Mason: What were those hand things you were doing? A lot of movement.

Josh: Just getting the energy. No, it's good to— I may have had pre-workout like Jessica. Did you? No, I didn't. Did you? Could you imagine though? Like, this is how I'd be acting.

Mason: Two coffees and a pre-workout.

Tommy: Yeah, shaking.

Josh: Uh, it was exciting yesterday. Uh, we do— a big media company had organised a gift for Mr. 97, and in true fashion, when I organise something, the delivery normally fucks up and there's delays. But yesterday I picked it up from the PO box and delivered it to your door, Sev's.

Tommy: Solid.

Josh: What was your reaction?

Mason: Ah, well, I mean, so the The funny thing, I had no idea, and it's very difficult present to guess. And so, this has been— I've been questioning people, like I've been asking Grace what it is, I've been asking Joshie what it is since November 1st, and no one's told me. I've got—

Tommy: Did Grace know? Did Grace know?

Josh: Yes, Grace knew.

Jess: Yeah.

Tommy: Okay. That is solid.

Mason: I was trying to get it out of everyone, just being like, can you— like, is it wearable? Like, what do you— what's the whole deal with it?

Josh: You thought it was an Oura Ring, didn't you?

Mason: I didn't buy one, that's why. But, um, yeah, so it came in a box. Josh dropped it around yesterday, and the box is probably maybe, maybe like 2, 2.5 feet high and maybe 2, like, the size of your torso.

Tommy: It's a big box.

Mason: Yeah, like, well, yeah. And so I had no idea. Got the scissors, opened it up, and it came in all these different bits. And so the first thing that I saw was the unit itself.

Tommy: Josh walked out the door because he didn't want to have to put it together.

Mason: No, the unit itself. And it's like it's got a hole at the front where it's shooting things out of. And then there are all these plastic balls. And so it's a baseball ball throwing machine.

Tommy: It's a pitcher.

Josh: It's a machine. And it's got an MLB logo on the side.

Mason: It's official.

Josh: So, it's official. The interesting thing was that the actual delivery box was the final box. So, what you assume in these things is that you're going to open it up and it's going to come in this nice sort of box. It was just— Yeah, yeah. —bits all put in. It was very strange. Yeah.

Tommy: And so, can you please reveal it now and show us? Because it looks cool. Like, I think if you were down the park and you saw it from afar, you'd think it's good.

Josh: Yeah, it looks more metal than what— There's no metal, it's all plastic, but it looks like metal. And it's real solid.

Mason: So, there's a little switch on the side to turn it off and on and a little adjustment on the back to change the height. So, if you want to tilt it down or tilt it up, you can do that.

Tommy: And then— If you've ever seen one of the Primo orange juicing machines, it looks like it's feeding oranges into the juicer. Oh, yes. But then if you've seen a cricket ball cricket bowling machine that you just drop a ball in and go, whoo. It's a mix between orange juicer and a cricket bowling machine, but has the power of an orange juicer, I'm guessing, based on the cost.

Josh: In true style, if I was to ever have a kid, this would definitely happen. Gave it to Sev's and I said, I don't have the one of the main accessories, that being a baseball bash. And you just start making promises. There was no intent to get a baseball bat, but I'm like, I'm going to get you a baseball bat. We'll get you a baseball bat. And then also, he couldn't use it until he got batteries, these special C-size batteries.

Mason: Those fat, big circular batteries. Oh, yes.

Tommy: Not in the bottom drawer. No, no. Yeah, not ones.

Josh: And so, I was going to leave Seb's. I was like, oh, yeah. So, you like, is that fun? Is that good? He's like, yeah. Is that fun? I was like, it's a bit shit me just leaving this here if you can't actually use it. And so, then I did— Did you hear that? That's from all the fizzy water I'm having. I did like an internal burp like Tully. And so, I went to Coles and got C batteries, also got like a few other little snacks just because that's— If you're going to go to Coles, why not? It's a bit novel. And so, went to Coles, went back to Mason's, gave him the batteries. And so, Mace, you can actually have a crack right now. You can turn it on. You don't have a bat, but what are you going to do? Are you just going to do it and is Grace going to catch it for you? Is that the idea?

Mason: Yeah, I'm going to fire it towards Grace. And she's got a glove. All right, here we go.

Tommy: Is it another normal day?

Josh: Just bring it closer to your door so we can really see it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I will. All right, it's, um, it's got a little stand. It's just— yeah, it's small. Here we go. Yeah. Oh, okay, so it's just— yep, I think it can go taller as well.

Mason: Are you sure? I don't think it can go taller.

Josh: I think I saw it on Amazon.

Tommy: I mean, you can just hold, hold the, um, you could hold it Make it like a gun. No, no, like an orange.

Josh: Don't do that. No, I think it would just sort of take it off at once.

Tommy: Is that a good— well, it's not as if you couldn't hold that thing. Look at it.

Mason: All right, I'm gonna turn it on.

Tommy: Here we go, he's turning it on.

Josh: First one's normally—

Tommy: oh, here we go, it's winding up. Oh, hang on, here we go.

Josh: It takes a— how's Grace going? Oh, this is great. Isn't that fun?

Tommy: It sounds like a lawn mower. It does. I think there are 2 to go. 2 to go. They seem— do they get harder as they go, Sivs? So it's like warming you up. Here we go. Oh, that was big!

Mason: She's caught them all.

Josh: Oh, great job, great job.

Mason: Really good.

Josh: I love that. What do you think? I think it's— what do you guys think, BMC side? Do you think it was, um, a good, a good gift?

Jess: Yeah, it was really thoughtful.

Tommy: He did well.

Mason: But do you think—

Josh: No, but I just— That was from all of us, but I just feel like, is it a bit daft? Like, is it a bit silly? Is it too silly?

Mason: No, I liked it. I loved it. I think it's a really great gift.

Tommy: A silly gift can be a great gift as well. Sure. Yeah.

Josh: Well, there's just so many.

Jess: You're going to use it, aren't you, Mase?

Mason: Yeah, all the time. I think I was actually saying to Grace, it's great to have just in the room or on like a set, like a nice, like a prop in the background. It is. Because it just, it just looks really great.

Tommy: Do you think it's like Major League Baseball, MLB, have they that branding? Is it like getting an NBA branded thing from the South Melbourne Market? Is there knockoffs?

Josh: I feel like that's a license. Franklin is like the brand. Okay. Is the— Because the thing is, I mean, this is a toy. This was designed for— For a child. For people, yeah, aged between 6 and 12. And so, the problem was we initially—

Mason: I wouldn't trust a 6-year-old with that, to be honest.

Josh: Yeah, that's true. GB and I were looking at different options and we went to the extreme end to start. And so, you know you've gone too far Where it says like, call for a quote. Like, they won't even put the amount that it's going to cost. And it was also just, it's industrial, right? It would be for baseball teams and they probably run like 10 sausage sizzles for the year to try and raise up enough funds to get this picture.

Tommy: My uncle owns a sports centre and he used to have one that was a cricket centre, which was— He then owned netball centres and indoor soccer, which I wasn't as fond of. There's something about like the nets and the cricket centre indoors as well, specifically. And he used to have a like industrial, I mean, it's just the big boys' version of what you're saying. You drop, it's like it's got these two spinning sort of wheels and you drop a ball and it grabs it and piffs it. I wasn't ever allowed to use it. I was probably like 6 or 7. And but I really wanted to use it. I shouldn't have, but I never got to. It was so annoying.

Josh: Well, you have to use the official Franklin balls that are these light sort of plastic balls. You can't put in actual baseballs or tennis balls or anything like that. Okay. Well, you could see why.

Mason: Like, I mean, if it didn't destroy, if it didn't actually break it, like it'd smash a window. Yeah. Yeah. Like if that force got sent through with an actual like tennis ball or a baseball, like it's— It'll definitely destroy something.

Tommy: I mean, is it— So, is it a good gift or not, Jess? Is it worth putting some other things through it? Not like maybe a— Like a will it blend sort of thing.

Josh: No, I don't want to get—

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's like, can you use your SodaStream with it? Will it throw it back?

Josh: Do we have warranty? No, it's come from the US. I can't imagine. Can't imagine doing it. But there is something fun. I just enjoyed the sort of like, this is from America. This is— This came from Kentucky. Isn't that weird?

Tommy: Yeah, but originally Asia. China. Maybe. Maybe. Or maybe not. 100%. As if they can get those things out of America. Like they're actually made in America. I mean, that's— They really beat the horn on— Toot the horn on if it's made in America.

Josh: Yeah, sure. You'd probably see it more.

Tommy: It'd be written all over it. Like Australia, I guess. Made in Australia. Did anyone have an orange cannon as a kid?

Josh: You mean like a lemon gun?

Tommy: Lemon gun, orange, whatever. Orange cannon. Lemons, you just have to have the pipe full. Are they the ones with the little purple tips?

Jess: And then they— It's like it's an actual gun, a foam gun? Oh, no, no, no.

Tommy: These are like— Looks almost like a weapon of mass destruction. They're like a pipe that has a cylinder that then you— Spray with fly spray or something, and then you turn the— Put the end on it, screw it on, and it's got a little spark and there's an orange jammed down the front pipe. And then the pressure of it exploding sends the orange straight out the front.

Josh: Very dangerous. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: But fun. Did you have one, Josh?

Josh: No, a friend did. Yeah. Yeah. Always. There's always one wacky friend. But it's always better to have—

Tommy: I didn't want to make it. Yeah. I didn't want death on my hands. Oh, definitely. You know, they were great.

Josh: What about spud guns? Did anyone have a spud gun growing up? No. No. So, a spud gun was— It would take— It's actually really lame. But I got right into it. A spud gun was like you'd take a potato and you would— Pierce the potato with the end of the gun and it would hold a bit of the potato and then you would shoot it out.

Tommy: I'm just looking up these. So, BB guns were big when we were young, Josh. Yeah. And there's something new. Did you get it? Did you ever have a BB gun? It was always like, could you go to Chinatown and find some dodgy joint that's got imports?

Josh: I was very scared of that stuff. The closest thing I had was a Cap gun. But I had some of the good. So, there was the— There were the two types of caps. There were the ones where it was like a circular round where it's like red or whatever, and they had sort of the gunpowder or whatever it is in the little holes. But then there was another one which was like a paper style where it would feed through the back of the gun and it would— That one was really— That was more of the What you would see at like Little Athletics or whatever. Those guns were great. I enjoyed them.

Tommy: There is something going on at the moment there. They're called gel blasters. And this— And they've banned these gel blasters because they look— You can literally get an assault rifle looking plastic gun that shoots these gel balls. And they've banned them in Victoria and a bunch of other states, but Queensland, of course, and Adelaide, you can go to town. But it's huge. I've been like— I— the problem is you watch one video because I saw a guy, I saw an Australian guy who's got quite a big Instagram holding this huge fucking machine gun. I was like, is this fucking guy for real? Like, has he found some— someone's got a machine gun in Australia and he's actually posting a photo with it or a video with it? And at the end he goes, guys, don't worry, this is a gel blaster. And I was like, oh, hang on. Okay, what's a gel blaster? Is it like a paint gun? So, it is not as hard as a paintball gun, so it doesn't leave the marks. Have you ever done paintball?

Josh: No, but I've had many people— So annoying. Many people at the shopping centre try and sell me in for half price.

Tommy: It's dumb because it's painful and it's not that fun. Really? It's— I mean, I've done it.

Mason: You get massive bruises on your, like, your legs and stuff, like massive, like— So we wouldn't—

Josh: So if I'd organized— if I'd, if I'd gone to Shopo and I potentially bought a whole team bonding exercise, it cost me a lot of money, would you guys still go?

Tommy: What I would say is firstly, you fucked up, because what you pay for, you end up paying double at the center. Really?

Josh: Oh, because you have to pay for guns and stuff.

Tommy: You want more ammo. You want more ammo, you want more. You have done it?

Josh: Yeah. You have done it? I haven't. Jess just needs to, she's just like me, so she needs to get her charger. That's fine. She's had a big day. Oh, for the computer. For her computer so it doesn't die.

Tommy: I know that she can. I'm talking guns. That's all right.

Josh: Don't put them on your mic. Give me a sec. Where is the mic? There you go.

Tommy: She got, yeah. Oh my God. Where's all that noise floor gone? No, it's a computer going off. It's probably your fan. It's saying, I'm on my last legs. I'm on my last legs. I looked up, it turned red.

Jess: I was like, fuck.

Josh: Is that a computer charger? It's very small. Yeah, the mini. Oh yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, you usually have to buy a shitload more ammo than what they give you. And so by that time you're like spending, spending big on ammo because you want, you don't want to run out in the field. It's very annoying. But these gel blasters are half the pain and they don't require the gas cylinders like the paintball guns. They are electronic. And so, you can— But anyway, it was interesting because this guy's like pointing out that it is a gel blast. And then I went on this rabbit hole and now I can't stop getting ads pushed to me of this guy at a gel blaster shop in Queensland. Talking about them and they have to talk like, you can see them behind us. I can't say what they are because YouTube will take our ad down. But interesting, we have our spot here in Queensland. You can come in and see all our range, which is behind us. Like, it's, it's bizarre.

Mason: The, the gel balls look like caviar.

Tommy: Yeah, they're, um, more biodegradable than— they just disappear. It's just water and they just— and the, like, say the shit that's left after those paintball Things break. Interesting. It's everywhere.

Josh: Anyway, Mace, where do you think we should go for our Christmas party? We're speaking about it on Thursday.

Mason: Um, oh yeah, look, it's, it's hard.

Josh: Like, I mean, if you go positive, because I like— so the thing is, you and I, we can tend to go, I don't want this, I don't want that. What— put out some positive stuff, what are some things that you'd really like?

Mason: Well, I mean, something like, um, I think, I mean, it's very niche, but I think the, you know, the surfing place, uh, TJ, that artificial surfing place, like, it's, it's very slick because I don't think the whole team will like it, but I think that'd be interesting. That would be— the other one is, and I think everyone would enjoy it, we could do like an arcade tenpin bowling one. I think that would be— and that would be something that everyone would enjoy. Get your tickets. Get your— Yeah. And we get like, you know, you get the party food, a bit of laser tag. Yeah.

Tommy: Crown just— Yeah, Crown have it. Crown's got it too. They've got Strike as well. Yeah, they've got Strike. And then it is really fun. I just wonder about the, um, what they're trying to do with COVID because it takes a photo every time you bowl. And so you end up getting the team to come down close to the end and they— And you jump into the photo. And so, someone's bowling, looking back, and the photo's being taken. It's so fun. We did it with a big pack of like 15 of us, and I had it as my profile pic for a while, but it was awesome. So, you like got someone doing this big over-exaggerated bowl, and then everyone's like jumping there. So, you could, you could do some fun team stuff at that point.

Josh: And what about a two— is it too much to do a two-day thing where it's like Yeah, like we do somewhere regious. Like, say if we were to do somewhere like, I mean, it's pretty, we've only got what, like less than a month or just under 4 weeks. Imagine we could do something. I like the idea of doing something healthy on one of the days. So, for instance, like a big team hike in the Grampians or something. And then—

Tommy: We go to a winery.

Josh: And then a winery or something. Yeah, the second day. Okay.

Mason: So, you want a bit more upper class and dark zone or?

Josh: Well, yeah, I just think that I'm just imagining the— It's as TJ said, it's going to be a bit tricky with the COVID stuff. But I don't know, like a vineyard's just going to be hectic. Is everyone going to have this idea?

Tommy: I mean, everyone's got the idea of we want to do a Christmas party because it's Victoria and it's been hell for 8 months.

Josh: But Victoria's all ready. At least—

Jess: You go on, Jess. Sorry. I was going to say, at least with wineries, there's open air and we can go, we can walk down the actual vineyard. Yeah. Things. But if we go to Galactic Circus, there's going to be people everywhere. Yeah.

Josh: The other thing to consider is they're not going to be able to allow heaps of people. Nah, that's what I meant. So, actually be less busy. Touch things. So, be less busy than normal in regards to like the vineyards. Yeah. Because they're going to have to, don't you think?

Tommy: Well, they'll be less busy because they have to do time slots like gyms, but it doesn't mean that there's not people touching everything and being, yeah, you know, doing what you do at a game center. I mean, every time I've done a game centre as an adult, I've felt like it's a bit comical because it's organized. There's children everywhere. Like, my mate did his 21st at a— one of the bits was going laser tag. But then you've got all these cute— I'm just slaying kids. I'm just, dude, just fucking absolutely destroying all these minors in that joint with my laser gun. Well, so we did—

Josh: I've done it before where you just, you have the whole— it's if you have enough people, say if there's 9 or 10 of us or whatever, like, say if there's 10, there's like 5 each. And so then it's 2 teams of 5.

Tommy: Yeah, it is good. I was sweating a lot, mate. It's very sweaty in those jobs. So sweaty. And you go, oh, I hadn't even thought about putting on that, all that attire that drapes over you. I mean, not the business you want to be in necessarily at this point, but horseback winery tour. You can do that down in, down the peninsula. Nup, don't like horse riding either. Oh really? What happened?

Jess: Thank you for asking. It was traumatizing. No, I went to— we have this thing called Ironbark in Bendigo, and I went on one of the trail rides, and because your horses are back to back, and mine just went skits. And like, it didn't fall off or anything, it was just really scary. And they just, they've got their own mind, you know, and they can do whatever the fuck they want. And that's what I don't like about them, because these big bastards.

Tommy: So it's a power play between you and the horse. They've got more power than you, so you don't like status that puts you in.

Jess: They just, you know, they do random shit.

Josh: Sounds like you're describing us. These big bastards have got their own mind. They do random shit.

Tommy: I don't like it. It's unpredictable. Shitting everywhere, stamping our feet. The horses. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Okay. Well, yeah, we need to work it. We can talk about it offline.

Jess: I mean, I do like the idea though of doing, yeah, like some sort of hat bucket thing, picking out and then we'll see.

Tommy: Sure. A mini— All you need is a minibus and then that can take us to a few destinations and there's 3 adventures.

Mason: Do you want it to be spontaneous thing where everything gets thrown into a hat and it's spontaneous? Oh, that's good. Or would you like a bit more like—

Tommy: Annoying. Are we doing— We can't get to anywhere.

Mason: We just have a bus. Book 10 places.

Tommy: Book 10 places and don't rock up at one. Or what about—

Jess: What about a scavenger hunt?

Tommy: Yeah, I don't mind it.

Mason: Walking, like an amazing race, an amazing race through the city. We did that at school. But there's drinking involved.

Tommy: Jess and I got CamelBaks full of Woodstock bourbon.

Jess: And what have the other boys got?

Tommy: Josh has got Bacardi breezers. Yeah. And Seb has Smirnoff's Double Blacks.

Jess: Seltzers. Josh Altschulz.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Negronis. No, he's good. Oh my God. It's— Josh, don't do that.

Josh: We could do some sort of world thing. Like we could— I've been thinking about like an idea of like a travel, like a theme where you're like, it's a country or whatever. Like, you know, you get dressed up. So, what, like you pick an exotic one?

Tommy: Oh yeah. Like it could be— It's all relating to food at that point. It's the easiest way to do that.

Josh: You could even watch, there's a great travel journalist named Rick Steves. Look, what do you think, Mason?

Mason: I don't think the whole team's going to be super thrilled about watching travel documentaries that would be aired on SBS.

Josh: What do you have? What's wrong with SBS? Well, you don't like it when we do that, Mason? No, I do.

Mason: I think it's very funny, but I reckon After an hour.

Tommy: It's like the present you got him, Josh. It's silly, but he thinks it's very funny. You're loving the documentary. Mason thinks it's funny.

Josh: It's not even a call. Mason, maybe we could do it. I thought it could be fun. Like, imagine it's like, okay, we're going to, we're going to watch a Rick Steves documentary of Germany and then we get some German food delivered and we have some German alcohol and we sit and watch the documentary. I'd rather go to the Kuchen. No, I mean, what do they, what is, what sort of hard liquor do the Germans do? I'm sure they've got gin in Germany.

Tommy: What do you mean?

Josh: Just different gin in different—

Tommy: A German company, a boutique 2020 company that's come out of Germany that makes German gin.

Josh: Oh, no. Oh, yes, there is.

Tommy: No, that's not it. Oh, I mean, going to a distillery, having a tasting, all this shit is fun. Yeah, that'd be fun. So, we're going to have to lock something in.

Josh: That's the big thing, isn't it? Because it's like this stuff's going to get booked. So, who's going to be in charge?

Tommy: Well, I mean, you're the admin guy now based on Jess's mentorship. And so—

Josh: I mean, I've never booked a trade-off thing in my life. I don't know if it's a good idea.

Tommy: No, I know. It literally needs— you need the decision of what it is and then that's— the rest can be sorted.

Jess: I'm happy to book it out.

Tommy: If it's a winery—

Josh: Did you mention, actually, TJ, I was looking at stuff. Did you mention the Cuckoo? That could be a fun place. It is, oh yeah, Cuckoo. But is it a real bogan?

Tommy: Yeah, but that's the beauty of it. That's the fun.

Josh: Like, what is something, like if we were to have a bit of a bogan weekend.

Jess: We could do one of those doughnuts down the Yarra. Yeah. Oh yeah, like the jam donuts?

Josh: No.

Tommy: I mean, what about on the water?

Josh: You know, like you're on the water. Yes, yes.

Mason: Like we can get one of— I mean, a bit, it's a bit more primo, but you can get one of those Go Boats. Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, I don't mind that. Drive your own boat down. I mean, I've got my license.

Mason: Getting a bit loose.

Josh: I'll stop, I won't drink.

Tommy: If we want to go bigger, I'll get something bigger.

Josh: Imagine if we could go either way. It could be awesome or it could just crash.

Mason: Yeah. Bring the business down.

Tommy: Oh, what about liability comes in play? The doughnut thing, there's ones in the Docklands where they are the shape of a doughnut and they do have— you drive them, but they've got a barbecue on them. And so, you sit around this— Have you been on one? Have you?

Jess: What's the vibe? Worst experience of my life. Okay. It was fun because of the group that I had, but because what happens is— But not fun for us. The donut? Yeah. The actual donut, you drive from here to like It's like 20 meters. You have to dock yourself into like this buoy that's already there. It's windy as shit. The barbecue barely works. Your feet are in water and the sun is just beating down.

Tommy: Oh, God.

Josh: So, it almost feels like you're part of some sort of survival thing, you know, like 300 Days at Sea with the barbecue.

Jess: I don't know if it felt like that. I was like, get me off this piece of shit.

Tommy: Oh, no. Oh, no. I'd rather do the one that Tully Smyth did some You know, promos for out on the Yarra on an electric boat.

Jess: That's what we thought we were booking. Yeah, no, I'd rather that.

Tommy: I don't want the other complications of that shit. Fuck.

Josh: Jess, can you tell us? So, you had an episode with Tully and Drew. So, Drew was on Big Brother with Tully. They sort of had a fling. You did the episode and it comes out on Tuesday. Too Much Tully every Tuesday. What was the vibe like? Can you give us an exclusive?

Jess: Tommy was there as well. It was so funny, wasn't it, Tommy? I couldn't stop laughing again.

Tommy: It was, you know, into these laughing holes. It was lost in the desert vibes, you know. What's that mean? Yeah.

Josh: Is it like delusional?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was Jess like?

Josh: Because I asked Jess, I said, how did it go? And she said, I couldn't stop laughing. Jess was on fire. It was great. What was she saying?

Tommy: I mean, best on ground.

Josh: What sort of things?

Tommy: You're just going to have to listen.

Jess: I can't even remember the first time what we were even laughing at.

Josh: You just blacked out.

Jess: I can remember the second time.

Tommy: But just appropriate amounts of inappropriateness, if that makes sense.

Jess: Aspects were a bit inappropriate.

Tommy: Yeah, on the line, which is awesome.

Jess: He's just so fucking hot in real life.

Josh: In real life, isn't he?

Jess: Yeah, yeah. Um, one of the Gronks messaged me overnight, a female, and said— and asked me about it. She said, how'd you go? I was like, I can't even talk about it, I'm in love. And then she goes He's so dreamy. I remember being so into Drully on Big Brother. I said, oh my God, same, how funny. You should love next week's episode then. It was funny. And we'll make extra video content for this one too. Like, winky face.

Josh: How do you think he felt? Like, I couldn't imagine being in the situation where I had people ogling over me or sort of giving that vibe. But what was the— TJ looking at it, did he just have a swagger to it? Was he like nice? Was it like— what was the vibe?

Tommy: I mean, you're talking to a stripper, ex-stripper, who had that.

Josh: It's— So, you felt like Jess was treating him like a stripper? Absolutely. No, but there is— He's throwing cash at him.

Tommy: Hey, big boy. The thing, so the similarities between that episode and me being a stripper is they're talking about you and you're fucking right in front of them. Look at his ass, look at his beautiful face, mate, I'm right here. I— but, but there's something that you end up leaning into it, and that's all ego at that point. You're like, oh yeah, this feels fucking good.

Jess: But it is his whole life as well.

Tommy: Exactly. That's why I think it's, it's, it's not negative. You just deal with it, and I think he doesn't mind it. Like, it's not— it doesn't come across as awkward at any point in that way. It's fun. It was fun, and you were fun, Jess. You were so cheeky and fun, which I loved.

Jess: This is what happens when I drink, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Christmas party. I mean, what's happening in your life? What's news?

Mason: Um, oh, we're going to a wine bar tonight. Oh, really? Oh, which will be great. I can't remember what it's called. I think it's in— it starts with L.

Jess: Narrows it down. Yeah.

Josh: Are you actually going to have wine? I think I probably should.

Mason: It's in Fitzroy. Grace just messaged me.

Tommy: Nice. Have wine. Yeah.

Mason: So that'll be very exciting.

Josh: Um, you're gonna have white or red or rosé?

Mason: Uh, red's too strong. I don't like the flavour of white either, so I don't know. What does rosé taste like? Is that like sparkling water? Is it a bit of sparkling water with a bit of like raspberry flavour in it?

Josh: Is that it? No, no, it's not even sparkling, is it?

Tommy: No. Push through on the Pinot. Push through with some light. Just say, what's the lightest red that you have? And they'll give you something.

Josh: What about like a Pinot for a hot day?

Tommy: It's weird because I, I used to drink Cab Sav as an 18-year-old, 19-year-old. It wasn't about— it's optics at that point. I mean, you're pretty sophisticated if you're 18 loving a fucking Cab Sav next to the fire.

Mason: Like, is that red or white?

Tommy: Enjoying the flavor? It's a red. It's pretty heavy though. And so, but there is something nice about like the—

Josh: I think there was something in the, like having a steak or having some sort of like hearty meal and then having a Shiraz.

Tommy: That combo I really like. There's a want, though, because I wanted to like wine. I didn't necessarily hate it. I just wasn't— It wasn't sitting perfectly with me. Like it— Somehow you just get older and you're like, Mm, this is fucking heaven. I don't know what's going on in my mouth, but it's— Yeah. So, that's where you got to lean in, Seb. You're doing that, though. But you're going to a bloody wine bar. Well done. Good work.

Jess: Are you going to get cheese? Is that a thing?

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, easy catch.

Jess: Cheese and wine.

Mason: But is it more— Are you going to have dinner beforehand or what's the plan? No, no, no, no, no. You have dinner there, surely. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, I think so. Okay. Surely you're just not having cheese and nibbles.

Josh: I'm actually, I don't know enough. Like, I don't, I've like, I guess you would sort of have like platters and things like that at a wine bar.

Mason: Surely you can get a steak at a wine bar. You could get a steak. Surely it's like a pub. Like, do pubs serve wine?

Jess: Well, no, it depends on what kind of wine bar you go into.

Josh: Wine bar. Ow.

Mason: Is it online? I can actually get the, hang on.

Tommy: Yeah. Jess, have you been to the Turack Wine Bar? Turack Wine Cellars? Yeah, Turack Wine Cellars. Have you been there? Bloody oath.

Jess: Love that place.

Tommy: I haven't been there, but what if in terms of that being it's in the Napier suburb.

Josh: Oh, yeah. Like if you're going, if they count Napier Quarter as a wine bar, I didn't realise that that was considered a wine bar. Yeah, you'd definitely be able to eat. Like Napier Quarter, which is in Fitzroy. Where do you know where you're going? If you're going Napier Quarter, that's awesome. But it's with an owl, you said. Yeah. Is it Bar Liberty? I have no idea.

Mason: I'm sure you'll be able to have like, yeah, I'm sure they'll have like proper foods in there and just like, you're able to have.

Josh: I'm actually surprised at how much food, like I'm just looking at some wine bars here, but even stuff that's not necessarily that sophisticated, like I think I can see a mac and cheese.

Mason: I would think, I would like, I would assume that you'd be able to have like some pasta or gnocchi or— Yum. You know, something like that.

Tommy: Alright, I'm hungry. I need to go cook some food right now, guys.

Josh: We're talking carbs. Alright, great. Well, you'll have to report back, Sebbs, on how you go. Great.

Jess: Call me if you need help with wine.

Josh: Okay. Little FaceTime.

Tommy: Or ask the waiter.

Josh: Yeah, the waiter will be— They're pretty smart. Yeah, they'll probably know.

Jess: Personalized approach, right guys?

Josh: Yeah. What is your approach, Jess? Well, the one with the highest percentage. Exactly. All right, it's a Daily Talk Show. Have a good one, guys. See you tomorrow.

Tommy: See you guys.