Three Control Freaks

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's a Daily Talk Show episode 508.

Tommy: What's happening, guys?

Josh: Uh, we're in Los Angeles, West Hollywood, and it is Tuesday here, Wednesday in Australia.

Tommy: It's been a big day. I mean, I've, uh, I've got me hat on, I've got me special hat on. This is the, um, Mr. 97. Were you wearing this on the Halloween night? I did, I wore it all night.

Josh: The St. Patrick's. Your eyes just clenched. When you're really tired, you do this.

Tommy: You close your eyes and only one opens.

Josh: Is that what happened? Yeah.

Tommy: One's a bit sticky, isn't it?

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Which one? Was it my left one that stuck?

Josh: Mate, you love talking loud.

Mason: So you just gotta adjust.

Josh: Which one are you? You might be 3, I reckon.

Tommy: So it's been a big one.

Mason: There you go.

Tommy: Gem says the hat's very on brand. Shannon says, Tommy, tilt the hat back slightly like a hipster wearing a fedora. For a little troll.

Josh: Like, so it was a St. Patrick's Day hat that we got. Oh yeah, but then you don't see the St. Patrick's Day bit.

Tommy: You don't. Yeah, and then it takes away— I mean, it just looks like I'm a weirdo wearing a bright green hat. Yeah. Um, anyway, there was some good phone chat banter just before we got started.

Josh: You were just trying to turn on my phone.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I'm— yeah, so I've got so accustomed to having my phone stay on and not turning off unless I button it, and it's because I changed it. The reason why I changed it is because of Google Photos. You know how you have to have the Google Photos app open for it to suck all your photos off your hard drive into Google Drive? And so you need to keep it open.

Josh: Okay, yeah, sure.

Tommy: And so I change it for that, but it comes in handy. So I mean, I lose battery if I forgot to turn it off. I've come back and it's been on for 3 hours and my phone's hot.

Josh: Yeah, it's not ideal.

Tommy: I saw that the Show Baker joined just before. Alex. Alex, sorry, but we're in LA and we have a new New Show Baker, Whole Foods.

Josh: I mean, yeah, they're a full-blown chef. They're doing everything for us, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Tommy: But they've got this thing. I mean, we've been having some road trip style conversations because we've spent a bit of time in the car. And somehow the other day we found ourselves talking about, was it you that said the superpower that you wanted?

Josh: No, no, no, you were bringing up superpowers.

Tommy: No, but someone said first, wouldn't it be amazing if you could buy something?

Mason: No, Josh, you said that.

Tommy: You said it first. So you said, wouldn't it be amazing if I could buy something and tell you the exact breakdown of ingredients?

Josh: Yeah, but I didn't think of it as a superpower, I just thought of it as a skill.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, but a pretty weird skill.

Josh: Weird superpower too, to be fair. My point was, 'cause I was thinking like, wouldn't it be great to know exactly what additives and saying, oh, this is, they've used green colour 649 and a little bit of cinnamon. That would be a good skill.

Tommy: I mean, weird sort of useless skill almost.

Josh: But an interesting flex. Imagine being at a restaurant and just being able to know exactly, being like, guys, you're using—

Mason: Canola oil.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, and then I said, okay, what would you prefer to have a skill at? Or like be the best at? What was it? Snooker?

Josh: Oh no, darts.

Mason: No, darts.

Tommy: So, it was darts or was it that?

Josh: Yeah, so it was either darts or like being a world champion at darts. Yep.

Tommy: Or—

Mason: But you don't have to train.

Josh: You don't have to train, you just stand there. You just stand there. You're just the best, yeah. Or the other option was to be able to eat any food and know exactly what ingredients. I thought that the darts would be too limiting in regards to my lifestyle because it would mean that it's only of benefit if I'm around a dartboard or if I'm playing in competitions. Whereas the food thing, I could be anywhere and use that trick.

Tommy: You could start a pretty good blog. You could be the guy that goes to restaurants to wow people. You'd definitely be on X Factor.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, Australia's Got Talent.

Tommy: You'd be there. Simon Cowell.

Mason: You'd be—

Tommy: is that the same show? No, AGT. Kyle was on that, wasn't he? Kyle Sanderlands?

Josh: Not sure.

Mason: Yeah, he was.

Tommy: Someone else.

Mason: I think so.

Tommy: But I could imagine you doing a full road show around the world.

Josh: Yeah, there'd be many things. I think about if I had certain skills and how much I'd leverage them, which is probably why I don't have the skills. It never happens to the person that's going to really leverage it. Like, if I was good at golf, yeah, I'd be at the driving range every day.

Tommy: Driving range?

Josh: Yeah, just fucking hitting it, just sort of. Yeah, anyway.

Tommy: Okay, I've got to open your phone back up because I thought, um, the The dryer saga continues, whether it's spoken of or not. I've been using the dryer. I think I've used it twice since our first conversation around it.

Josh: I stopped bringing it up because you'd get so annoyed about it.

Tommy: It's either that or I gave you a fresh clean towel. Was it the clean towel that got you over the line?

Josh: Yeah, no, the towel was handy. I would have probably done that, to be fair. Oh, would I have?

Tommy: Well, I had to clean it.

Josh: I mean, one week. Do you need to wash a towel after a week?

Tommy: We needed to because we went to the beach. And I got Mr. 97, I cleaned his clothes for him.

Mason: Well, so I'm a bit worried about those now.

Tommy: What?

Josh: I've, um—

Tommy: Shrinking. You're worried of shrinkage? Yeah.

Josh: Seriously?

Tommy: I mean, a medium, you're gonna—

Mason: No, no, but my t-shirts have like—

Tommy: Have you put it on?

Mason: No, not yet.

Tommy: No, I've got my t-shirts in there too. No shrinkage.

Josh: Do you remember you fucked— what were those nice tops that Amy bought for you from New York?

Tommy: Uh, definitely not fucked by, um, a dryer. Not my— maybe the dryer that we had at our old house.

Josh: What was that? What was the Everlane?

Tommy: Everlane.

Josh: So Everlane, have you heard of Everlane?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, they're like boxing. They're like the boxing—

Tommy: No, no, that's Everlast, bro.

Josh: No, Everlane. But I could imagine—

Tommy: I'm gonna channel my Everlast right now.

Josh: I can imagine, uh, he's changing hats. I can imagine '97 Tommy wearing Everlast though.

Tommy: I did when I was 17.

Josh: Everlane is a brand that's got like a socially sort of conscious element. You sort of, they've got a section, pay what you want.

Mason: Really?

Josh: They have, yeah, all these different minimums. That's not bomb-proof. I don't know.

Tommy: Imagine the gronks taking advantage of that.

Mason: I would be.

Tommy: It's like the rich dressed in filth.

Josh: Well, they've got different things, so it's like you either pay the minimum amount you pay so that for better working conditions, it's like goes through all these different things. But anyway, I thought they were quite premium for some reason. I saw you up close and I saw your t-shirt and the Everlane t-shirt within a week had gone all fucked around the neck.

Tommy: No good, but then one of the 3 that we bought was good and it had the same treatment. And so it was like the, what are they? ANS Color, they're good. They don't shrink. But Mr. 97, if I fucked your white t-shirt, I actually have, I used to think I could fit into mediums and it was, it looked like I was 21 again where I thought tight tops were fashionable.

Josh: Yeah, it doesn't look good.

Tommy: And so I've got a whole bunch of white crisp tees that I can give to you.

Josh: So what's Airbnb, why are you in Airbnb?

Tommy: So I thought the whole pushback about the dryer was that I was using the guy's power of where we're staying. And so I've got a message Mirdad? That's his name?

Josh: Yeah, Mirdad.

Tommy: I'm gonna message him and just say hey mate, I've been using— Is there a limit to how much I use the dryer?

Josh: No, don't ask that! I'm doing it!

Mason: Hang on, whose account is this one?

Josh: This is on my account.

Tommy: Oh man but that's what— I just want to see what he has to think of me.

Mason: Have you got good ratings or anything?

Josh: Nah nah nah yeah no no no no no no, I don't need 10 outta 10 rating.

Tommy: Why can't I just let him settle it?

Mason: Um, maybe, maybe he's gonna position it.

Tommy: He's gonna think that I saw that there's a dryer. Was there a limit to how much I can use it?

Josh: Because I think that he's gonna worry that the dryer is fucked.

Tommy: Why would he worry if I—

Josh: because the thing is, is there a limit? Because it's like, it sounds like there's a limit in your eyes.

Mason: Okay, what, what about, what about if you positioned it as in, we've got a few dirty clothes coming home each night, are we able to use the dryer every night?

Tommy: Yeah, okay, I like that.

Mason: Because otherwise 'Cause it's a real Gronkh move just being like, is there a limit?

Tommy: Okay, okay, okay, 'cause I could have it going 24/7. All right, I'm gonna let the smartest guy in the room write this 'cause I'll fucking, I'll tell him that we've absolutely broken him.

Josh: It sounds like you're organising a laundromat at the house. The other thing I wanted to cheque after you've done that 97 is I wanted to go to my first ever Airbnb.

Tommy: Oh yeah?

Josh: I wanted to see if it was still available, whether I'd be able to book it. Be sort of something fun about, going in 2012.

Tommy: Where was it?

Josh: San Francisco. Okay, so it's not, it's not LA. Um, g'day Goldie Guts, g'day Bearded Fan, g'day Sarah, George. I mean, we couldn't get the greatest quality, said Bearded Fan. Sorry about that, mate.

Tommy: Sorry, buddy. But if you listen or watch on YouTube, like, it looks clean, real clean. Um, we couldn't even get the Airbnb that we stayed in last time we were in LA, and because I tried different times of the year and it wouldn't even show it up. So, they must take things off the market.

Josh: When would you go hotel versus Airbnb?

Tommy: I've actually thought that we almost could have for this trip.

Josh: Gone hotel?

Tommy: Other than having the nice space for us to dump our shit, I almost think—

Josh: It was cheaper going Airbnb, I think.

Tommy: Oh, we could have gone like, I mean, we would have to go on a bit tackier, like tacky hotel. Whereas you pay a little bit more and you get an actual place with a dryer that you can abuse, I mean use.

Josh: So, 97's still writing that. We were having an argument before based on eating and whole foods. I know we don't do that much food chat, but no, the pushback that I have is that we're having whole foods for most breakfasts and most dinners, And this is from Whole Foods, what you're eating now.

Tommy: Most desserts.

Josh: Do you understand where I'm coming from? My pushback in, we're in the US for a short period of time. I'm not asking for shit food. I'm just asking that we try other good options.

Tommy: It's so convenient. That's the only problem. When convenience.

Josh: But we live, we work next to a McDonald's. It doesn't mean we have McDonald's. Don't you think you'll look back?

Tommy: Bouncy.

Josh: Don't you think the thing that I really think is we'll look back and people will be like, oh, Mr. 97, how was LA? Oh, how good is the Mexican food? And he's like, ah, I had one taco.

Tommy: You ask young mate what he wants and he doesn't have it in his brain to search for what the options are.

Josh: But this is the thing, he needs to learn.

Tommy: Like, he doesn't even want to. We had a whole argument at dinner. Oh no, Tully Smyth. Ripped into Mr. 97, basically telling him to shut up and eat what gets brought out to the table. Because every time there was a piece of food, he said, what's that?

Josh: Were you saying that when we were out?

Tommy: You were drunk.

Mason: I can't remember. I do remember Tully saying that though.

Tommy: She was saying shut up, Dad, to you, and then she was saying eat the bloody food. Yeah, while she wasn't even eating.

Josh: Uh, by the way, George says, uh, Abusing the dryer at an Airbnb is totally fine.

Tommy: Thanks, George.

Josh: George is a gronk though as well.

Tommy: I mean, like—

Josh: Alex has asked, give me the down low on dessert from Whole Foods. The dessert from Whole Foods is amazing. They do, it's by the pound. So, you buy all the cookies and the slices and you just put it in a bag.

Tommy: They've got a bakery section where it's freshly baked each day. And there's, yeah, like you said, cookies, but there's even, they get into like, Blondies and, oh, like hedgehog.

Josh: Which is like a sweeter brownie, which is—

Tommy: And then some weird brownie that we were eating before that had caramel. I don't know, we should find that, see if Alex can cook that back home.

Josh: Well, yeah, I feel like I wanna put a stop to all of this soon anyway. But so from a diet perspective— Just eating desserts every single night. But 97, what's the pushback in trying new things?

Mason: There's no pushback on my end. I think it's a great idea, but as Tommy was saying before, I don't have it in my head as to what's around. So I went on Yelp just before and I searched up all the top places near us. Food similar to the Whole Foods?

Josh: Exactly.

Mason: No, I did a search and I made sure I put the budget on the lowest one.

Tommy: Great.

Mason: Um, and open till like 10 o'clock.

Josh: Yeah. Um, and what'd you find?

Mason: About 2 Mexican places that looks great, an Italian place, which, yeah, potentially. And then it was a fusion, might have been Japanese food.

Tommy: Is what he was.

Mason: So, look, the referenz is great.

Josh: And so what— because you are a bit weird, like when we were doing the stuff with the dating where you're going on dates with people, you had more pushback with the idea of going and sitting in a Nando's.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Than you did on the actual date itself.

Tommy: And didn't you cook for both the dates that you went on?

Mason: I didn't cook on the second one, no, but I mean, we made pizzas.

Josh: And so what's the— why are you funny about eating out? Um, I can tell this is going to be good because you, you're going a bit red. No, there's— I think it's—

Mason: I don't know why. Number one, I don't want to go to a place where it's like I'm not going to like the food.

Tommy: But hang on, how do you know?

Mason: No, see, I don't. But you know, they're like, there are cuisines that I'm just like, wouldn't be too keen on.

Josh: Like what?

Mason: Well, I think Japanese would be one of them. I wouldn't be keen on Japanese. I don't know, just—

Josh: But you like sushi? Yeah, but the whole thing's on sushi.

Tommy: Oh, there's multiple versions of sushi. Sashimi. Oh no, hang on, wait. He said the other day he ate fish for the first time.

Josh: Or like one of the first times. Sashimi, whatever, and you loved it?

Tommy: At EPLP, he said Mate, I loved it. It tasted like chicken or something like that.

Josh: Yeah, and so, well, I don't know, so what's the anxiety around? Because the thing is, you, I think if you could have your way, you would have Whole Foods. But I feel like we're just creating this cult. Don't you think that we will be sad looking back? I know that when I went to Thailand and Bree and I, it was our first trip, and we went to the coffee club like every lunch and we had the same raspberry ice cream.

Tommy: To be fair, there's a lot of restaurants eliminated 'cause of your vegetarian diet. Like I'm just like pulling back, STK Steak Joint, Sushi Park, like the taco stuff.

Josh: So our mate actually Spencer, who we're catching up with on Friday, he sent me a link. I haven't even written back to him 'cause I don't know what to do. He's suggested a chicken and waffle Do we just go and I just get waffles?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Josh: But yeah, anyway, do you know what it is? Does your family go? Where does— where do your family go when you go out to dinner?

Mason: We don't really go out for dinner.

Josh: When do—

Mason: when, when we do, um, there's a Vietnamese place in the city Maybe called— I think it might be called Uncle, potentially, Collins Street.

Josh: And so you really—

Tommy: there's one in Bellaclan.

Josh: Do you think you would go to the— once a week do you go out? No, no, once a fortnight as a family, or just— no, just you. How often do you eat out?

Mason: Well, Harry's Chicken's closed now. Oh, they went out of business.

Tommy: You went there at the time they were giving away everything.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so you never bought anything anymore?

Josh: Shannon's Said 97, I'm a bit similar. I'm so fussy with food. If I get served shit food in a restaurant, I feel one, ripped off money-wise. Two, I could have cooked better and been happier with, uh, good food. Haha. She said, I love food, and when it disappoints me, I get the shits.

Mason: I don't know, I just, I just feel like I've got, I've got more control and can dial in the healthiness versus eating.

Tommy: I think control freak. But Whole Foods ticks the boxes for you.

Mason: Yeah, because there's so much there that you can pick from.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, that is the— that's the trap of it.

Josh: Do you think that you worry too much about fucking things causing you cancer? In all seriousness.

Mason: Yeah, definitely.

Josh: There's—

Tommy: yeah, he's currently looking into sunglasses because he's not quite sure that the research has been done on whether or not sunglasses are good for you.

Josh: But you're worried that sunglasses cause cancer?

Mason: No, no, I just— I've, I've heard, I've heard from different places that—

Josh: not the Sunglass Hut.

Mason: No, no, no, no, not Specsavers, Sunglass Hut, or Booper.

Josh: No, or Booper. Yeah, just everywhere your mum's worked.

Mason: No, but apparently you've got like light receptors in your eyes that—

Tommy: I mean, apparently you do, you do.

Mason: Yeah, but you've— but it, it stimulates the production, I think it is, of melanin or something in your skin which allows you to have better skin protection naturally from the sun.

Josh: Where do you get this? Where do you get all of this stuff from?

Tommy: Bro science.

Mason: It's made up. Well, actually one of the—

Josh: Andre told him.

Mason: No, Andre would have no idea. It was on one podcast and a TV show.

Josh: And so did your mom and dad really, when you were growing up, were they like obsessing about what you were consuming?

Mason: No, not really. I mean, Dad wouldn't be happy that I'm looking into sunglasses.

Tommy: As in because he's afraid of the sun?

Mason: No, as in he'd just think it's ridiculous and that I should always wear sunnies.

Tommy: Mate, lucky.

Mason: Which is fair enough.

Tommy: Lucky he doesn't have blue eyes. I mean, blue eyes, you've done a great job, Josh, driving around here because usually blue-eyed babies are squinting all the time because there's something more sensitive about blue eyes than—

Josh: Well, sunnies are harder when you need a prescription. Kathleen says she likes my socks. Thanks, Kathleen, from Happy Socks.

Tommy: I'll read you the message that Mr. 97's crafted up and sent off to Mehrdad. Here we go. Hey Mehrdad, we just wanted to cheque in. We've got a few dirty clothes from being out and about during the day.

Josh: To be honest, it sounds like you're asking him to wash our clothes.

Tommy: Are we all good to use the dryer and washing machine each night when we get home? I love this. The place has been fantastic. Thank you. That's a good message. So the saga continues because we're not, we're not gronks for doing that. Yeah, so we're here for—

Josh: he must see we're fucking idiots though, that we're like— because he told us about the washing machine.

Mason: I know, but every night, that's the—

Tommy: that's something each night. I don't think I will have used it 9 times, so it's a truthful message. So night before we go, I don't think I will have used it 9 times, but I will wash.

Mason: I've got to do a wash tonight.

Tommy: Yeah, I'll wash your clothes. I'll wash yours too.

Mason: I was just going to hang them out on potentially like the balcony or something.

Josh: So what do I do every time I go to the US? I go to a, uh, fold— like wash and fold, wash, dry, and fold— and they do it all, put it in a bag, and it's done at the end of the trip.

Tommy: I know, that was the irresponsible trip I took in 2012 as well. Fucking— but I think all are getting wash and fold.

Josh: It's actually in the, in the US, it's so cheap.

Tommy: No, I know, but now I spent more more on—

Josh: in North Carolina when I got it done, I spent more on the tip because it was embarrassingly low. Like, I think it was all my clothes for like $8.

Tommy: New York, New York, there's a whole wash and fold places. That is an interesting thing. Like, there is a bunch of those services that seem to be doing well here or seem to be in business.

Josh: So what are the other firsts? Because '97, I've been thinking about it, like I have been giving you the benefit of the doubt as if you want to explore, but we're going to have to force you because if it's up to you, you're not going to do anything.

Tommy: No, you won't do anything.

Josh: What are some other firsts? You had your black coffee. I was worried last night. I was watching or listening to a podcast. It was two comedians.

Tommy: Hang on, does that mean Mason was listening too?

Josh: Yeah, he was too, but I could actually tell by his breathing and moving around. I'm like, you don't like the podcast? He's like, oh nah.

Mason: I mean, I don't want to say it to Josh.

Josh: Josh is loving it, he's enjoying it. Sharing a room. I also knew because every time they laughed and I laughed, 97 wouldn't laugh. I was like, okay. I'm like, oh, you're not liking it? He's like, nah. I'm like, all right, I'll put on the fucking audiobook. I get it, it's quite intense.

Tommy: No, but I think what we're experiencing is a collision of our own routines. When you think that you're a bit of a, uh, control freak. Me? Yeah, I think—

Josh: yeah, yeah, I am too. 100%.

Tommy: No, I think there's 3 control freaks in this room. He's talking about having a dialed-in diet. Yeah, while he's fucking travelling the state.

Josh: But don't you think— I think that, yeah, you and I, you love pointing, telling me what lane to be in. Yeah, just doing that. It's fucking— it's— I get it.

Tommy: Oh, because I'm also—

Josh: or when you do Copilot, when you do that with your hands, there's fucking nothing more.

Tommy: I'm Copilot. Yeah, freak. You freak. No, I think you said a great point. A great point is you're doing well when you're driving over here, everything takes long quickly.

Josh: So when you say turn left here, I can't turn.

Tommy: No, but that's what I'm saying. I agree with your point. Yeah, to do a quick decision back home of like just ripping a right Which is like a comprehension of if I just turn the wheel now, there's a fucking—

Josh: there's a chance that there could be a fucking bus coming or something. Yeah, I guess I was happy with myself because I articulated in that moment because you'd been doing it.

Mason: I can't remember.

Josh: Turn right there, turn left there. No, no, no, you missed it. Oh, you missed it. And then I realized, I was like, oh, I can just say—

Tommy: I'm surprised at how much you don't take in though. It's one thing I've actually never realised about you is the amount that you don't take in about what's happening. Oh, you know, like some directions, or we'll walk past the house, or You were like, the amount of times that you've walked past a parked car. No, you follow me. I think you're just, you're following.

Josh: I'm not taking it in.

Tommy: No, I know.

Josh: I have to actively think, do these things matter? Do I need to worry about this thing?

Tommy: That's what I mean. That's, it's, there's not some—

Josh: I don't know. The only street I know is Fairfax, and to be honest, I'm not sure if it's that street or that street.

Tommy: I've never thought about it. Mr. 97, what's your, um What is it, sense of direction? What do you, have you got a grasp of the area?

Josh: Do you think it is sense of direction?

Tommy: 100%.

Josh: I feel like it's more, I feel of it, it's less sense of direction and more a focus on knowing where you are. Maybe that is sense of direction.

Tommy: Sense of direction, you've downloaded a map and you understand where you are.

Josh: But you definitely pride yourself, like we had a meeting the day before we left, you were having this real sort of bro-y conversation with the client about, ah yeah, Banana— what's that place called?

Tommy: Oh yeah, Banana Bungalow.

Josh: Ah, Banana Bungalow. Oh yeah, the hostel. Oh man, have you tried the— it was this dick swinging match of how many streets you could mention. Ah yeah, what about on Third and on the, on the Fairfax? Oh yeah, I wonder if that place is still there.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: Do you know what I mean?

Tommy: Yeah, but I don't know your point. What's your point?

Josh: I know you just— you love a good fucking corner.

Tommy: I mean, how many times has he been asked, have you stayed here, and you had to fucking What do you mean? Like how you don't remember if you've even stayed in a hotel or not.

Josh: Yeah, I know, it's crazy. No, it's crazy because you do remember a lot, but yeah, I don't remember details on—

Tommy: So you got to answer the question, mate. Do you think you've got a good sense of direction? Like, are you—

Josh: Thanks, Emma.

Mason: No, I, I mean, while we're here, I've been trying to like, I guess, actively sort of gain a sense of direction. So I was like when we went to— what did we do? Burbank. We went to Burbank. I was just like zooming out on the map and seeing where that was in relation to, um, Whole Foods.

Josh: Whole Foods.

Mason: No, in terms of like Santa Monica. And then when we went down to Ocean View—

Tommy: side, side.

Josh: Yeah, that's why it's funny. Yeah, no, I get it. And I find I'm like that with Things like Europe, I still struggle with Europe. I've spent 3 months of my life in Europe, struggle. Like I have to, the zooming out thing helps.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Saying, oh, okay, this is where I am. Good idea.

Tommy: I mean, this is to be fair, this place is pretty easy to get a grasp of. It's very much like just gridded with streets. Yeah. But it's been a big day. We first headed over to Culver City.

Josh: We chatted with a designer named Brooks Atwood, and he's part of a firm called Office Untitled, and they're like an agency that they sort of— I would say that their specialty is in architecture, but then they do real fucking wacky stuff.

Tommy: Oh yeah. So cool, their office was great.

Josh: So their toilets, he had, he gave us a tour of their toilets. In one toilet, they've taken all these like pool noodles. Do you know what pool noodles are, 97?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Okay, they've cut them up into short sort of about, I don't know, 20 centimetre pieces and they've put them all across the wall.

Tommy: Yeah, but it's creative. Look on our Instagram stories, there's a—

Josh: You happy with the 20 centimeters?

Tommy: Definitely not, there was different sizes.

Mason: I reckon it probably would have been an average of maybe 12 centimeters.

Tommy: He's done you 8, mate. He fucking said you fucked up 8 centimeters. I mean, you said the stage—

Mason: No, too long. That's too long. No, that's dirty.

Josh: You've done 30. 20.

Mason: 20.

Josh: Now I think that you're fucking up because of your perception.

Mason: No, I reckon we would have been there.

Josh: Can we ask Brooks?

Tommy: Hey Brooks, can you just please measure average size of it?

Josh: Yeah, he'll do it in inches.

Tommy: It looks cool. So I took like a selfie, then we got a photo in there. It's a weird place to be getting photos, but it's all good. And then we went to, um, same place, Culver City, and we went to a radio station.

Josh: Yeah, we saw Zach Sang. So Zach Sang is a radio DJ, uh, he started in his bedroom and now he, um, he has this fucking amazing studio at Westwood One, is the, is the company, syndicated to like 70 different radio stations.

Tommy: It's amazing, the studio is so great, screens everywhere, where amazing cat— like, the guests he has: Miley Cyrus, Justin Bieber, One Direction, Ariana Grande. Fucking ridiculous superstars. And he fucking let us in. He was so nice. He's a legend.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And we met his dog, Louie.

Josh: Yeah, super cute.

Tommy: Who was biting me.

Josh: Um, actually, how good was I as someone who, uh, I'm not, not a dog person But, uh, because even, uh, our mate Reece Mitchell said, I judge people— funny, because he said, I judge people, um, how they treat animals. And then, then, then someone said something about kicking dogs. He goes, well, if you've got to kick him, you've got to kick him.

Tommy: No, he said, yeah, but I've kicked the dog. No, he's, he's had beautiful animals in his life and he's a great person.

Josh: But anyway, how good was I with Zach's dog.

Tommy: Well, I invited the dog up onto the couch.

Josh: No, what about— No, I mean before, when we walked in. I was like, "Oh, doggo! Oh, doggo!" And the funny thing was Zach then said, "I love how you Aussies say doggo." And then you were saying it sarcastically. But then 97, I think that 97 said that you didn't like it. I didn't even throw you under the bus, I'm pretty sure. No, I did. Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, Zach Sang's on the show, um, very generous to let us there. Amazing. We— I saw that we just drove past and I saw that there was a cafe that is from Sydney, Bondi Harvest, and a friend of mine owns that. Guy, I haven't seen him in years. And I went in there, we went in there, and I saw him down the back cooking. So that was amazing to see someone that I know.

Josh: We're going through a lot of Aussie cafés.

Tommy: Yeah, that was a cool little spot though. And then, um, we saw my friend Josh Simons, your friend.

Josh: Yeah, thank you.

Tommy: We had him on 198, episode 198. So we went to a cool music studio in Burbank. Yeah, we— interesting vibe over there. Burbank's where all the studios are.

Josh: Yeah, I've seen Conan, uh, his shows in Burbank. It's a, um— I wish we'd gotten there earlier because there's a great store called Film Tools, which I was telling you about. Oh yeah, which is like, uh, So there's B&H in New York, which is sort of like, it's got everything, all cameras and all that sort of thing. But there's Film Tools is specifically for film production. So you have like crazy bike rigs with cameras on them. You have like every type of gaffer tape. It's pretty cool.

Tommy: The, no, there is something geeky about like a film store.

Josh: There's actually a camera store, I think it's Sam's or something just down the road, which I saw.

Tommy: One thing we need to do before we go is I asked Targa, who is a, um, creative producer at Capital Records— we're having her on the show too— I asked her, is there any lookouts that we can drive to?

Josh: And what'd she say?

Tommy: And she said yes, Mulholland Drive. Oh yeah, there's a cool lookout. You drive up and then you park and walk down. She told me about it a little bit, where you can sort of skip over where people don't go, go down to some rocks, and we can look out over Hollywood.

Josh: What about going to Santa Barbara? Too far?

Tommy: I think it's a bit far. I mean, people were surprised we went as far as Oceanside.

Josh: Yeah, Laguna. Because this is the thing, I, um, I always— to be honest, Santa Monica is one that all these places I get confused with. And so I think when we're going to Santa Monica, I actually had vivid memories of Santa Barbara Santa Barbara is further.

Tommy: I'll tell you how far away it is, but I reckon 2 hours, 2 hours and 20.

Josh: No, I don't think it's that far. Um, what do we got? Hour and a half.

Tommy: Oh, that's not too bad.

Josh: Um, no, so Santa Barbara is beautiful, and I have a feel like they're, um, they've got like a pier and all that sort of thing. I don't know whether we, uh, can go, but I remember enjoying that a lot.

Tommy: Yeah, the week's flying, but, um, We've got catching up with Matt Diavella tomorrow.

Josh: Yeah, so we're doing a video with him. It comes out on November 19th.

Tommy: No pressure now, Matt, that you've told us when you're going to release it.

Josh: Yeah, I'm excited for that. It'll be good fun. We'll have— we're doing some shows with him, but then also having the cameras— I mean, the camera's always turned on us, let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, do you know, do the thing like, oh, Cameras are turned on us for once, but then I realised they're always looking, they're always watching. Campbell said Hayden would love checking out all that gaffer tape. Mate, he would. The gaffer tape is great. By the way, Campbell, uh, we need, we need not to send 97 out on a, uh, street photography mission.

Tommy: Disposable camera, disposable like film.

Josh: It's not just—

Tommy: don't throw it in the bin. Yeah, don't throw it.

Josh: It's a film. So Campbell Campbell loves taking film photography and he very generously gave us a, or gave Mr. 97 a camera with some film so he can go out and about and take photos. Problem is we don't know how equipped we are of actually installing the film.

Mason: Yeah, how do you use the camera?

Josh: It's very easy, you just turn it on and take a photo.

Tommy: I've said that before in my life.

Josh: And yeah, I think you'll get about 24 photos, but we've got 24. I think there's something in doing photo— oh, there's something fun about us doing as many different sort of cliché photos. So we've got to go outside the big pink wall.

Mason: Oh yes, I mean, I've almost got to be like a one-take wonder with the camera.

Tommy: Well, you have to be, you've only got one shot at it each time.

Josh: Harp says porn couch.

Tommy: Oh mate, this is, this is a casting couch if you've ever seen one.

Josh: Doing it LA style.

Tommy: Doing it LA style, it's the name of the episode.

Josh: Uh, anyway, great. It's the, it's the Daily Talk Show. It's, uh, currently 8:45 PM in LA.

Tommy: Baby's tired. The babies are tired.

Josh: Yeah, so I think it's time for us to, uh, leave so 97 can get the episode up. You got to do the show notes and everything.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Tired? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, you'll be okay.

Tommy: Said with one eye open.

Josh: Uh, Blinky Bill says hello. Uh, Campbell says I'll film myself loading the film so you guys can see how it's done. That would actually be very handy.

Tommy: Very handy.

Josh: It's a daily talk show. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you are enjoying us being away and all that sort of thing, please share it on Instagram. Feel free to screen grab the podcast app or maybe even take a photo. I feel like I'm struggling to breathe.

Tommy: Yeah, just start breathing. You keep breathing. And that's it.

Josh: We'll see you tomorrow, guys. Catch you. See? I think it's the fucking dessert. Is there any milk?

Tommy: No, I ate it all.

Josh: Okay, all gone.

Tommy: Oh no, there's a little crumb.

Josh: All right, bye guys.

Tommy: See you guys.