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Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 480.

Tommy: Oh, 20 away before the big 500. Happy Wednesday to you, mate.

Josh: Yeah, we did say last week that on Wednesday we were going to have a form that you could fill out to join us for episode 500.

Tommy: Yeah, it'll be coming tomorrow. I mean, Hayden Dibbs just joined our live feed. Yeah, and 20 days until you get your tap.

Josh: Very true. Yeah, Hayden Dibb offered up his arm to be tattooed with the Daily Talk Show, so we will be taking him up on that offer.

Tommy: Peer pressure.

Josh: Oh, now I wonder— just cancel that phone call. This is the, uh, it would have just frozen.

Mason: It's paused. All right, I think it's okay.

Tommy: We're back.

Josh: We're doing live Facebook.

Tommy: Phone calls coming through. It's all right, don't be fazed by it, baby. Um, peer pressure. Could there be any chance that there is enough peer pressure that you get a tattoo on the night of our 500th episode?

Josh: Um, I don't know, depends. If 97 did, I would.

Tommy: I mean, you never had enough peer pressure to do drugs.

Josh: Yeah, no, no, never, never done heroin, never done cocaine.

Tommy: Good, good, good.

Josh: Never done marijuana even. Just feel like I'm the type of guy to have a severe panic attack You probably would.

Tommy: It'll be funny because you're not going to die, but you're just having a panic attack because you ate too many brownies.

Josh: One thing that I've been— Happens, bro. Wasn't even people. Wasn't even— What happened? Have you had a panic attack?

Tommy: Uh, no, it's just high-level anxiety. It's just irrational anxiety when you're having edibles.

Josh: Would you call people? Call people on the phone, or what would you do?

Tommy: No, no, no, you're just all in your head. I was convinced that my ex-girlfriend was getting all these texts from some guy, but I think she actually was. I think it was rational anxiety. I was like, oh my God, she's fucking cheating on me. Turns out she was. So it was still hyper anxiety because I'd baked these cookies and then I gave them to all these people at my house and then it just completely ruined a whole heap of the people down the back. And I went down at one point and I had this moment where I walked down and I was like, they're on the couch and one of them looks up at me and says, What have you done to us? And at that moment he was just high. And at the moment my heart was just going.

Josh: So you got really worried.

Tommy: I ran back to my room.

Josh: Were you worried that you'd actually done something like something was in it, like rat poison or something?

Tommy: No, there was nothing in it. It was just marijuana made into, into butter. And then the butter was then used into, with, into a cookie mixture. And it's just a different feeling. As to smoking marijuana.

Mason: They don't taste different.

Tommy: It tasted a bit shit, but it was still tasty. It still had heaps of sugar in it.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, but it just does something completely different.

Tommy: It does something completely different to you.

Josh: If you are talking about butter, I decided to, um, just go with— we went for a cheap coffee option at the service station.

Tommy: You just had to get the $1 fix before today. We've been working all day. We've been working with Mark Schenk from Anecdote.

Josh: Yeah, his podcast, which you— what did you call it the other day?

Tommy: I called it Brand Storytelling.

Josh: It's called Anecdotally Speaking. Anyway, but we did get you, 97, to do a coffee order. I know we don't send you out to get coffee. How was that experience for you?

Mason: I actually asked the wrong person at the counter.

Josh: What do you mean?

Mason: No, so I literally went up and I just asked the barista. Yeah, I walked in, I was like, oh yeah, I've got the orders, like memorized. I had the first two. I had the, um, uh, strong three-quarter latte and then the large flat white, and I didn't know your one.

Josh: Yeah, I remember it now.

Mason: Uh, it's a almond large strong almond mocha or something like that.

Josh: Yeah, it's a dumb order.

Tommy: So you asked the barista?

Mason: Yes. I just—

Tommy: I've gone into the kitchen and asked the guy cooking the pizzas, can I place an order and pay with you? Yeah.

Mason: And, and so, so the, the lady at the register, she's like, oh, come over here, son. Okay. Yeah, and the worst thing is to repeat the order, but by that time I was so like rattled, I was just looking at my phone because I had to read the order off the— off Slack.

Tommy: The worst thing was he was in full branded attire, The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: Did they bring up The Daily Talk Show at all? No, that's good. I appreciate it. As soon as I sent him off, when I said, oh, you can go now, if you can't be bothered going to AU79, you can go to the coffee place that's really close. And because he didn't know exactly where I was pointing, he decided he couldn't handle that.

Tommy: Yeah, the coffee was cold by the time he got back. That's how far he'd walked. Suburban update. The other morning. Oh, fuck. We got our visas for the USA. Yeah. Just to reiterate, we now are officially allowed to enter the USA under an I visa, which is basically a journalist visa. Unbelievable. Oh, my phone's going off. Anyway, so I left my house and I forgot something and I got halfway to Mason's joint and I was like, too far to turn back, I'll keep going. And I got him and then I was like, quickly go back, I need to get my, my cards. So it's my wallet. So I just carry a bunch of cards and got back. The garage door was open. I'd forgot. So I was like so lucky that I was going to be gone until 6 PM that night.

Josh: So you must have just been so rattled that you had forgotten all those different things, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I'll bring it all full circle to why I think it's been happening. But first, you've never had a garage before? No, first the suburban update. First the suburban update.

Josh: Um, notice you played basketball with Michelle?

Tommy: Yeah, I've shot a few hoops with her.

Josh: How's it— how's that going?

Tommy: Yeah, good. I haven't seen him much lately. I just say hi. Bodie likes to run in there.

Josh: Did you mention the podcast?

Tommy: No, I haven't mentioned the podcast. Okay. I live next to a famous basketball player from back in the day. Anyway, driving on the highway in Melbourne. What is it? The M3?

Josh: M3.

Tommy: M3.

Josh: I call it a freeway.

Mason: It's a freeway.

Tommy: Sorry, it's a freeway.

Josh: What's the difference between a freeway?

Mason: It's a six-lane freeway.

Josh: What's the difference between a freeway and a highway?

Tommy: Freeway and a highway. Good point. A highway like Nepean Highway. Is running between houses. A freeway is somewhere separate to, so there's no houses. It's like barricade. It's like barricaded off. It's strictly—

Josh: It's free from anything else.

Tommy: Yeah. What is it? Free from anything else. That's what I'm kind of saying. Fun fact about it. My auntie used to live out in Mount Albert near where Gemma Watts lives. And my brother and I played on the M3. Before it was open. So like they hadn't built it all the way out to Doncaster. And so my brother and I, there's this vacant freeway, it's huge, and we're throwing stones and running around and like climbing on shit. This was before they had opened up the M3. This was so long ago.

Josh: Do you remember when like the CityLink first came, like the tunnel when they opened the Burnley Tunnel?

Tommy: Oh yeah, it was huge. Huge.

Josh: I remember the first time just holding my breath because they said, you know, it's underwater.

Tommy: Oh yeah, you go in old school. Yeah, like holding your— people have different things. Amy, when she goes past what do you call, a cemetery. It's finger in belly button and holding the breath so the spirits don't come out your belly button. Um, difference between a freeway and a highway?

Mason: You can have crossings and intersections on a highway. Okay, so you have to have on-ramps and off-ramps on a freeway.

Tommy: So it's a freeway coming down the freeway. What I've realised is, mate, so many people drive by themselves.

Josh: So many people are very inefficient.

Tommy: It's massively inefficient. It is fucking ridiculous. I look around and I've only just realised that there's the lane on the far right, the transit lane, T2, where if you've got more than one person, if you've got a passenger, you can go in that lane. And so I'm in that just hooning past so many people that don't. Unbelievable. Anyway, we've got no choice because we've got one car. I'm sure I'd be that gronk driving to work early with me Tesla by myself with my eyes closed. But So I'm coming down this morning, left a bit late, and it hit a bit of traffic as it sort of bottlenecks into Hoddle Street, the exit. I look up and it's pouring rain and there's an overpass and I see these people standing up there. I don't like seeing people above the overpass because I was the young gronk spitting on cars. Never threw rocks, just spat. But it's still bad.

Josh: Anyway, who was it? Did you work out who it was?

Tommy: Yeah, they were protesters.

Mason: So is that the ones that you pointed out when we drove past?

Tommy: It must have been more. Yeah, new ones. So these were people, they're protesting or they just had signs like big sheets with like, it's all about the East-West Link. So they're trying to build a tunnel from the end of the M3 under the city or something. So people don't want it. People don't want it. And so there was these people in pouring rain in trench coats just waving at the slow-moving traffic.

Josh: And what do you think about protests? '97? Have you ever been in a protest?

Mason: No, never been in a protest.

Tommy: I mean, it's as cool as going to Coachella now, protests.

Josh: It's very on trend.

Mason: The hard thing is with them, you don't get much action out of them. You know, like, it's amazing that you've got all these people at the climate strikes and marching and stuff, but nothing really comes of it, you know what I mean? Like there's just an inquiry into something and nothing happens.

Josh: Imagine, is that what—

Tommy: so can you look up just quickly, um, uh, what you're calling them, strike, what are you calling them, um, strikes, protests, protests that have led to change? See that, there might be like a top list of like, so action of a protest has actually created some huge change.

Josh: I guess the question, like, what are they specifically asking for?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it'd be interesting to know who who at the event understands that. So at a singular level, I mean, I've been the man to poo-poo things like this in the past.

Josh: Have you ever been in a protest before?

Tommy: Um, no, never, never. No, I don't feel like I'd— it's, it's probably— yeah, I see people doing it. I don't know, I'm not drawn to it, not drawn to go.

Josh: Are we cowards? Like, yeah, that's a—

Tommy: maybe, maybe. And so my thinking has probably always been along the lines of what change would I ever make? But I do understand that that is also throwing out the get behind something and show your passion towards something. And so that's why I think it's good. I mean, it's interesting seeing like the ones with the protests in the city where people are fucking sitting in the middle of Flinders Street and you're actually all these people trying to get to work.

Josh: It's a bit naughty, isn't it?

Tommy: You've just fucked them over.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: But then does it bring change? This is— it's not as simple as sit in the middle of the road and make shit change.

Josh: If you believed in something like really hardcore, like, and because the thing is like climate change and all that sort of thing, I obviously believe that it's all happening. Do I necessarily believe that the— like, I wonder if I was protesting, would me doing this thing move the needle on that stuff? That's the bit that I'm not, not sure on. But imagine if you're really passionate about something that you could, that's more tangible, don't you think? Like, I feel like if it was something where it's like, okay, we want to stop this road or whatever. If you do it like stop the development of a road, then that's a real easy, tangible thing. Like, it either happens or it doesn't happen.

Tommy: Oh, so where Amy's mum lives up in Sydney, New South Wales, outside of Sydney, about an hour, there's a town called Windsor. And Windsor has a bridge and basically it was like a through road where trucks would, you know, fly through.

Josh: You did a video on this.

Tommy: I did a video on it. And so every time I went up there, like a couple of years in a row, I'd see this tent set up and it was always around Christmas. And I was fascinated by these people and their effort at always being at this place. I found out that they'd been protesting for multiple, multiple years, maybe like 4 or 5 years. It's in the video. Like 24/7 they'd been protesting. So there was someone at that place Christmas, Easter, New Year's Eve, every single moment, because if they left, they couldn't come back again. It would be illegal. So like they had to hold the post.

Josh: Oh, interesting.

Tommy: And so I would go over and just have a sort of quiet chat to these people and they'll be like, yeah, we haven't, we haven't left, we haven't left since we got here and yeah, we're not going. Anyway, sad thing is they moved them on and they built the bridge. They're building the bridge anyway.

Josh: That's annoying. For all of that effort.

Tommy: All of that effort. And so you're still trying to— What are you asking?

Josh: '97 for something?

Tommy: Yeah, the protests that have actually created change in the world.

Mason: There are a bunch of them around ousting like dictators and stuff. That's like based in Serbia.

Josh: Like revolutions and stuff.

Mason: Serbia and Egypt as well. They're successful ones. And then there's also, there's one here that they mentioned that all the backlash around Trump's order, executive order to get rid of asylum seekers or whatever, when he first came into power, apparently that, that helped with allowing visa holders to stay in the country.

Josh: But yeah, I've been thinking more about news lately. You know how I was getting rid of subscriptions, got rid of heaps of subscriptions.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I've removed the news function from my swipe to the—

Josh: well, I never use the news function on like the iPhone thing. The idea that they just sort of spit you random news articles, I don't like.

Tommy: Horrible. It's all just like babies died in dam accidents. Yeah, constantly. I just was like, fuck me.

Josh: It was the same notification, you just had to clear it.

Tommy: A lot of that happened.

Josh: Yeah, so how many times, how many days in a row can that happen? Um, no, but I, uh, I re-bought the New York Times subscription because I was viewing an article and then it would, um, I got to like the paywall bit where it's like you've reached the amount of, um, times that you can view New York Times. I think you get like 10 free articles.

Tommy: Is this on your phone or your computer?

Josh: Yeah, phone. But then, so now I've, I feel like I need to get my money's worth. So I'm going to like the New York Times website each day.

Tommy: And is this, is this American-based news or is this world news? New York Times.

Josh: So there is a, what do they call it? They've got a bureau in Sydney, so they've got Australia's and there's even like I went down a massive rabbit hole. There's like journalists in Melbourne who work for the New York Times. And so, yeah, but I was just wondering, I'm like, okay, like maybe there's certain areas of news because like all, all of you, all the news a bit, uh, depressing. Of course, certain news may be enlightening. The other thing I realized, I don't know if this is, um, a widely held belief or not, but reading an article, it seems like they just need to make them look like— I'm never one to read, like I never used to read an article from start to finish, and I would always be hard on myself. I'm like, Josh, you can't fucking stick to anything.

Tommy: It's true.

Josh: And so I—

Tommy: I'm waiting for the article.

Josh: Yeah. And so I— but I've started reading to the end.

Tommy: That's good.

Josh: The thing is that I feel like once you're about halfway through the article, they're just saying the same shit in a different way. Yeah.

Tommy: So you think they're writing them accounting for all the people that drop off in the first little bit?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: So you're trying to— you're trying to deliver as much information up top and then just sort of just reshuffle a bit down the bottom.

Josh: Yeah, I was wondering that. But so I did start to think, I'm like, I wonder what categories And if we've got the Instagram livestream, if there's certain categories that people are going to, I'm curious as to like the ones that are less depressing or to get a better scope of the news.

Tommy: I think most young people just don't go to the news anymore. Like they're following, I mean, technically Pedestrian TV and Junkie, these are the news, Vice. They become a news source. Which then they're just like, but you see how it's all— you see how what's current and what's hip and how to talk, like all these, uh, these news outlets are trying to talk to the young people.

Josh: What is 97Smiling?

Tommy: Like that.

Mason: Oh, we just got a message from Gemma. I've heard that a really good way to get to the very end of a book is to write it out by hand.

Tommy: It is a great way. It's a, I mean, it's a It's a pretty great one.

Josh: I did email Seth yesterday. He wrote back saying the book was still coming.

Tommy: So did you say that too? No, you didn't. Please. Did you actually say that?

Josh: I did a PS.

Tommy: Did you do a PS?

Josh: Yeah, I said PS, it's just taking me a while, but the book's still coming.

Tommy: I hope he's confused and just is like, that's that weird Aussie guy. That's that weird Aussie guy that told me my wife's bakery was a shitstorm.

Josh: What did I say again?

Tommy: You said something like that.

Josh: Being a pain in the ass.

Tommy: Oh, yeah. He was the webmaster for his wife's bakery. And you said, you know, those shitty little jobs you got to do.

Josh: Yeah, that's right. I did say that. The other thing I've been thinking, I think that on the same, in the same vein as doing, reading articles, I'm thinking about picking up Twitter again.

Mason: Oh no, no, no, no. Bad idea.

Josh: Do you think?

Tommy: Well, if we— I mean, Mr. 97 went into Twitter and he almost had a breakdown.

Mason: Yeah. How about this? Too much shit on there.

Josh: You'll love this. You know how you can Some people will, they'll write a tweet and it's over a few tweets.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And they can't fit it in. So they'll do, you know, one of—

Tommy: Trump, he fucking does it all the time.

Josh: One of four, two of four, three of four. Our mate Dr. Jason Fox did a tweet the other day, yesterday, and he writes a tweet that says zero of 75. Jason has taken what could be considered an essay and no joke, I thought it was a joke. I thought, that's funny. I clicked through. I was scrolling, it was like reading a Medium article. It was hilarious. It was great.

Tommy: I mean, some people connect with that. There's a few people that have got famous from doing a thread of tweets.

Josh: I remember I used to do it when I was working at Envato. I was working with Collis and we'd put together this like 10 tips for startups or whatever. Yeah. And so I would go and him and I would come up with the 10 tweets and then we put them in Buffer and then every single day we would Put out one.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Talking about Buffer, we started doing scheduling some posts that was through the Instagram app. Was it Facebook app or whatever?

Mason: Yeah. Creator Studio, I think it's called. Yeah.

Josh: And we had some issues with syncing.

Mason: Syncing. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. With some of the videos going out of sync.

Tommy: This is a warning for people.

Josh: No, it was just an interesting fact. Buffer, that, that— did you see this?

Mason: I saw the email.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Buffer has just release the ability to schedule stories.

Tommy: Yeah, I've seen that. That's been— I mean, that's Instagram had it as well. Social, really, they had it for ages. The thing that most of these don't have is IGTV, and the IGTV are the ones that are going out of sync bad. And so they just restricted it. They probably don't let anyone, any third party, do the IGTV thing.

Josh: So on this, if we're just talking social media a bit, so the, the Twitter thing—

Tommy: finish the book first, it's a lot of time.

Josh: Well, so yeah, what is the—

Tommy: I think any of these things, writing a blog, it'd be like if you said I want to start writing writing a blog. You got to enjoy writing to do the blog.

Josh: I love writing.

Tommy: Yeah, but I think there's probably— it's time spent. I think you love writing. Write more. As in write more for your blog that you—

Josh: well, yeah.

Tommy: Is there something at the start of the year?

Josh: Yeah, I need to.

Tommy: I think you should. I mean, sticking to anything— we talked about it yesterday— it's like consistency is, if not the hack for most things. And so if you wrote every morning, and actually publish something.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, Pete does it. Yeah, there's something—

Josh: there's something interesting about the idea of, um, just like the OG Twitter, like not like putting out like links and all that sort of thing, but just doing like sort of the standard, I just had this thought, write a tweet.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, who are the people that do these things and do it well?

Josh: Gemma does it. Gemma? Yeah, she's, uh, she's been doing Love Island. I don't watch Love Island. But she's constantly doing tweets, hashtag Love Island.

Tommy: Yeah, I think for any of these things, don't take too many things on.

Josh: Like, Twitter's too much for me at the moment.

Tommy: 100%. We've got so much other stuff to do.

Josh: What other— what thing would you prefer? So if we're just doing a bit of a redesign of my time spent, because I've just updated my iPad. I've actually taken— that's been— we've been using it only for Spotify in the office. I've since taken it back into my possession. I take it home during the evenings now. And so I've started rather than— I was struggling with the whole no phones in bed. So I'm now doing no phones in bed, but I have just an iPad. But I just have my iPad.

Tommy: You've just got the bigger version of your phone. But I mean, your phone's the big one too.

Josh: The Plus. Yeah, but I don't have— I don't have Instagram on my iPad.

Tommy: What?

Mason: Yeah, that's— Isn't it crazy that they don't have an Instagram app for iPad?

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Like it resizes the app.

Josh: It's disgusting.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: And so I do—

Tommy: Looks like my dad's iPhone with his eyesight. Everything's large. Text is large.

Josh: And so I do. Yeah. No. So if I'm using my iPad, it's YouTube, New York Times and a tiny bit of Twitter.

Tommy: I think it's—

Josh: I probably don't need it. I just need to— There's a bunch of books that I need to read.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. Where's your time better spent? One thing I've been fucking up, and it's I think why I left the garage open, it's, it's what gives me the anxiety in the morning, is chasing my tail. Chasing your tail in the morning is nothing worse. There's nothing worse. You have a tail? Yeah, yeah, but chasing your tail meaning getting up a little later than you should have.

Josh: Oh, definitely.

Tommy: Which then brings everything forward, so you end up—

Josh: it's the daylight saving thing. So in Melbourne we've had daylight—

Tommy: it fucking is definitely not— this was happening before daylight savings.

Mason: When did it start?

Tommy: Happening a couple of weeks ago, and I know that I just need to get out of bed. So being in bed is the problem. Once your alarm goes off, getting out of the bed is the first step, because if you just meditate in bed and then you're like, oh, that was nice, I'll now go back to sleep.

Josh: Well, this is the problem that I like, even this morning, because I've been getting in later. I think that the daylight savings has something to do with it because we've lost an hour.

Tommy: But no, they just went to bed the same time. It didn't make an issue.

Josh: No, no, no, no, no. I left the office at like 9:00. I'm going to bed at like 11.

Tommy: Yeah, you're tired. Yeah, of course you're tired going to bed.

Josh: The thing is, I am— Bree goes to the gym in the morning and she's been bringing me coffee again. And so I wake up and it's like the opposite of, you know, like Miranda Kerr in the morning. She has her lemon water and stuff.

Tommy: You're just straight to dry down.

Josh: I'm just straight to like fucking—

Tommy: Yeah, cracked lips.

Josh: I'm so dehydrated. Like, and it doesn't matter how much water I drink at the moment because the amount of coffee that I'm having, I actually can't get clear piss at the moment. Impossible. Yeah, it's like, because it's like a diuretic, so I'm just constantly, you know what I mean?

Tommy: So this was a bad idea at 4 PM. Yeah, the coffee, definitely, definitely. But the, so the morning thing, you, because of Bodhi, and I, my, so my, my routine is to get up and go downstairs and make the smoothie.

Josh: What time does Bodhi get up?

Tommy: He gets up anywhere from sort of 6:30 till 7.

Josh: Does he help himself up?

Tommy: Nah, nah. He started leaning over and turning the light on. So I've gone into his room some mornings and he's got the light turned on. Well, because he might have got up and especially when he's napping in the day because he's a bit more restless, he'll turn the light on because he can reach it.

Josh: So how long until he gets himself up?

Tommy: I don't know. He's big enough now that he could get out of the of the cot by himself. Once he got a position, he got a footing, and he's like, realised what he was about to do, and I just flicked his— I just pushed his foot off.

Josh: So you don't want him to be able to do it?

Tommy: No, because then he'll wake up and he'll climb the fence and he'll come into Mummy and Daddy's room. And so if he gets the— if he wakes up in the middle of the night, he'll be like, I could go to Mum and Dad's room.

Josh: Have you thought about— has he ever slept in your bed?

Tommy: No. I mean, yes, he slept in our bed for the first year of his life. But then we got him out of the bed because we needed some peace and quiet. And he— and but he's become a wriggly worm. Like, he can't— if he sleeps in the middle, he will turn upside down and put his legs on your face.

Josh: Do you remember when you were a kid? Did you sleep in your parents' bed?

Tommy: Oh, the big bed. I loved it.

Mason: It was warm.

Josh: Must have annoyed the fuck out of my dad.

Tommy: Of course. I mean, when you're 15, it's fucking annoying. You're taller than Richard. No, but I used to get into mummy and daddy's bed. The big bed.

Josh: Do you remember a time when you remember a time when you're thinking, getting mum and daddy, mummy and daddy's bed?

Tommy: But do you remember a time that ever feeling like you're too old for it, saying mummy?

Josh: Like, never said mummy.

Tommy: You never said mummy?

Josh: No, never said mummy.

Tommy: Like, I just remember when I had the filter within that mummy, you couldn't say mummy, you know? Like, it was like you were, you weren't cool.

Josh: Did you ever say mummy?

Mason: A little bit, yeah.

Tommy: But do you remember when it's, it's like getting dropped off at school? You don't want to be dropped off out the front, you want a bit fucking bit of room so you can—

Josh: I wanted the closest to the gate. JJ didn't want to walk.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I just didn't want to be brought down by me mummy.

Josh: Well, we had a sick car, we had an SS Commodore, it was gold tiger colored. Yeah. And so, um, it's a whole build in the whole school.

Tommy: It's a classic thing of like your parents aren't cool anymore. And so I remember the kids that would call their parents mummy, and I'd be— it's such a funny thing, but I just remember the feeling of being like, uh, mate, you're not cool.

Josh: Did you, um—

Tommy: I wouldn't have said that. I said something pretty yuck.

Josh: What would you say?

Tommy: Oh, you know when people used to call stuff gay back in the day? Like when we were young kids, it's like, yeah, they don't even know what being gay is, but you'd say everything's gay.

Josh: It was definitely— that was a '90s thing, wasn't it?

Tommy: So '90s. I mean, I don't think kids are going to say that stuff like now.

Josh: Yeah, because you know, like, it, uh, we're a more woke existence now. Uh, '97, did you sleep in your parents' bed?

Mason: A little bit. I think I remember coming in in the morning, I think, occasionally. Yeah, we, we had like I think from a pretty young age, we, like, we— I've had the same bed for like ages. And so I just imagine you still got that race car bed. Yeah, no, Mum, Red Rocket, Red Rocket. Mum and Dad got like a king singles for all of us, and so we've just—

Josh: rich family. Yeah, yeah.

Mason: And, and so we've just, we've just had those for ages. And so I think— I don't, I don't know if we went how we went from like a cot to maybe something else and then to the king single.

Josh: So you're in a king single right now?

Mason: No, well, so I had a king single up until like last year and then I moved downstairs and we've got a spare bed down there, so I've got like a queen now, I think it is.

Josh: Do you ever sleep in your old bed?

Mason: Nah, because it's upstairs.

Tommy: Why would he sleep in his old bed? It's his old bed.

Mason: It's my old room. It's like, because I've moved, I used to have a bedroom.

Josh: Have they turned it into a gym or something or what?

Mason: Nah, so No, we've just—

Josh: Is that a fair point?

Mason: No, no, so we've kept it as a— We've kept it as a spare bedroom. So if you have any of your stuff in there, um, my bedside table's in there.

Josh: Anything in the bedside drawers?

Mason: No, no, my— All the wardrobe is just filled with shit, old like cables and like just when I had an obsession with like networking, like real fucking nerdy stuff.

Josh: Ethernet cables.

Mason: Yeah. All that's in there.

Tommy: Yeah. Well, is there something—

Josh: is there anything that you're gonna have to bring when you go away, when you travel? Any comforters, anything that you— any blankies?

Mason: Nah.

Tommy: Oh my God, this kid that we grew up with, uh, that used to say mummy a lot, and he also used to have his blankie, and he like— he had a blankie up until grade 4.

Josh: So interesting, blankies, aren't they?

Tommy: Like a little blankie, and he'd suck his thumb. Like, I see the cuteness in a baby that does this stuff, and I see how my empathy for, like, Bodhi and how much I care about him. And like, if you wanted to continue doing that stuff, like, you wouldn't think it, but when you're a young kid and you see someone else, you sort of get a bit savage on them. You're too old for that.

Josh: And so anyway, man, you would have been mean.

Tommy: Yeah, because I had two older brothers. They were all mean. We're all mean, but you know Good kids. Anyway, this storey doesn't pan out that well. We threw a bit of his blankie on the fire.

Josh: What do you mean a bit of his blankie?

Tommy: Oh, because it was like getting tattered and there was like, he used to hold it and we threw a bit of the blankie on the fire. It could have. So savage.

Mason: I lost my, my favourite teddy bear. We lost it on a plane. We were flying to New Zealand.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: And I was just like, I was crying for like days, just all day.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, as a parent, you, you hope that your kid doesn't have some kind of survival toy or thing like—

Josh: What's a survival toy?

Tommy: No, no, no.

Mason: Like, it's literally like the thing that you like to play with.

Tommy: Comforter is the word. So like a teddy. Bodhi literally just has 4 teddies. He becomes obsessed with one and then he's like, he's over all of them at the moment. He's just like trucks. Trucks are his thing, but he doesn't even have a favourite truck. He's whatever. And so you hope, because some kids just, you know, it's their, it's their safety.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I do. Um, I remember when I was a kid, when I was 3 years old, and you remember when you were 3? Yeah. And we, um, went to Barwon Heads for a, um, Barwon Heads. Yeah, yeah, for a, uh, like, uh, my, uh, cousins had like a, um, what's it called, caravan. And I left my sunglasses there. And then during the time when we got back and before I got my sunglasses again, I had my eyes tested and, uh, I needed glasses. And so I remember being told that I wouldn't be able to wear my sunglasses anymore. I was just fucking so sad.

Tommy: Did you know your eyesight was shot back then, or nah?

Josh: Nah, I don't think— You must, like, it must be that thing. I, I remember having my hearing tested as well. Mum was so pissed off because she would yell at me about things. I'm like, I can't hear you. You'd be playing PlayStation, ignoring the fuck out of her, you know. I can't hear anything. Went to the fucking ear and eye doctor or whatever it is. Yeah, perfect hearing. It's called selective. Selective. Literally, I remember the doctor saying, yeah, just a bit of selective hearing.

Tommy: Uh, anyway, the thing that I want to start doing from tomorrow.

Josh: Here we go.

Tommy: Is up out of bed at 5:45 every morning.

Josh: It's good because I, um—

Tommy: Oh, you started the before 6?

Josh: Before 6.

Tommy: What happened to that, buddy?

Josh: I bought the fucking Streaks app. Durham told me to get the app and I just haven't been doing it. But definitely, it's— there's so much power in it because the thing is, it's so easy. My big one is— I reckon this could be something, guys. No phone calls before we get into work. Because the thing is, I talk to you 97 seconds before 11 AM. Well, the reason why I take so fucking long is because you and I get on the blower at 7:30 and I haven't even gotten in the fucking shower yet. And so we talk for half an hour and then it's 8 o'clock and then Bree needs the bathroom and baby needs to do a dump. And so, as in me. And so it fucks up with all the timing. Do you know what I mean? We only have one bathroom. You don't realise how good two bathrooms is because then you can do the sort of dump in one bathroom, shower in the other. Yeah.

Mason: Jamesy was in the shower when it was like my, you know, my shower time. Like I wake up and have a shower.

Josh: But what time is your shower time?

Tommy: And you get 20 minutes, right? You're an animal.

Mason: It's come down at nighttime. It's like 20 minutes.

Tommy: Yeah, nighttime. But then he does a morning one too. Yeah. Absolute privilege.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: No, but like, it just, it rattled me because Jamesy was in the shower and Dad was—

Josh: I just love 20 minutes and he doesn't have time to put toner in his hair.

Tommy: What are you doing?

Josh: Yeah. What's the word? Are you trying to find the toner for 20 minutes? Anyway, sorry. Your hair is actually looking more toned.

Mason: Do you use this?

Josh: I did.

Mason: I used a purple shampoo.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Go on. Sorry.

Mason: So, yeah. Well, so Dad and James were in the shower.

Tommy: Together?

Josh: Different showers.

Mason: Different showers.

Josh: At the same time. You guys must have some decent hot water going on.

Mason: Yeah. Well, when I hopped in, there was no hot water.

Josh: But there was enough for two at the same time?

Mason: Yeah, yeah. Well, so Mum had a shower as well, so Dad had one, James had one, and Mum had one. Okay.

Josh: And so there was just absolutely nothing. So what do you do in that scenario?

Mason: Cold shower. It's pretty depressing. Like, I wasn't happy.

Josh: Yeah, but it's— I think cold showers are great.

Tommy: No, it's fine if you want to do it, but when you don't want to do it and you just wanted to have a nice warm shower, it's good to start on hot.

Josh: I've been doing like, uh, this game where I go see how hot I put on full hot and almost wait until it starts to feel like hot blistering sort of thing, and I put it straight to cold. And so it's like extreme temperature shifts.

Tommy: Anyway, I'm getting up at 5:45, that way I can get the smoothies and everything done.

Mason: Great. Gemma just said she's going to be outside the front of yours with a megaphone at 5:45.

Tommy: Don't wake up my son. You've defeated the purpose of getting up because I realise if, if Bodhi wakes up, it's all out the window. Like It's just another thing being prepared before baby wakes up. This is Bree's life. She has to be prepared with baby's coffee, done the exercise, get home and hand him the coffee. I have to get the smoothie ready so when Bodhi wakes up, I hand him the bottle.

Josh: Do you know what the funny thing is this morning? So Bree, like, I, uh, I sort of woke up at like 7:05 and I look on Find Friends. They've changed the name of the app. I don't know if you've seen that on iOS 13. Find My.

Mason: Did you update to iOS 13?

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Okay.

Josh: Why?

Mason: I don't know, they're just— I was just reading an article on it this morning.

Josh: What are they saying?

Mason: It's just a bit buggy.

Tommy: Oh yeah, but it's probably like older phones can't handle iPhone.

Mason: The new 11 as well was buggy.

Tommy: Definitely, definitely not an update.

Josh: Uh, but anyway, they, uh, I looked on Find Friends, saw that Bri was nearly home, and because I was excited, I thought maybe she'd have a coffee for me when she came in. I said, 'Oh, morning. Did you get coffee?' And she was like, 'No.' And luckily I didn't blow up because she did have one. It was, I guess it was a test. She was like, 'No, no, I didn't get one.' And then like 2 minutes later she came back and she goes, 'I got you one.' And, uh, she was like, 'You were just—' She was like, 'You're just being ungrateful. You should know.' But I do remember when I was a kid, there was a— at the surf shop, there was a Volcom Do you know the brand Volcom? '97. Old school.

Mason: Volcom. Don't think so.

Josh: Good brand. Yeah. Anyway, they did— Can you look up Volcom leather wristband? So, there was a leather wristband, probably 10 centimetres width. Yeah. Yeah. And that's thick. And it just had two like sort of clip buttons. Oh, yeah. A piece of leather with two and it would just sort of like— Real accessories. Yeah. Huge. I used to be right into the accessories.

Mason: Really?

Tommy: This is like— What else did you get into?

Josh: Oh, like the Bali, like going to Bali and having so many, uh, oh yeah, you know, different. I would actually love to do that again.

Tommy: Oh, you know what? I could imagine that, uh, Gemma Watts, that you may have been one of those gals who would, um, get the inside of the Coke bottle and the Coke lid and you'd pull it out and then you'd bite and there's like, you'd have like this plastic rim and then you'd stretch it slowly and it would break if you stretched it too hard, but you could get it to be a wristband. And like all heaps of girls at my school had a whole heap of them. And then I know a few that actually went a bit further, which may also be the Gemma category of getting VB stubby plastic rings and cutting them out and wearing them.

Josh: I just remembered fuck me bands.

Tommy: Yeah, I remember that shit too.

Josh: You'd get them from Crazy Clint's.

Tommy: Crazy Clint, the dirty old bastard.

Josh: Do you know Crazy Clint's? Nah. Was it like, um, Clint's? It was Clint's. Can you look up Crazy Clint's?

Tommy: Would you also buy shit like the Beanie Babies that Crazy Prince?

Josh: No, that was What's New. Well, yeah, but you know, those, those fuck me bands.

Tommy: Oh yeah, I think this was the version, the one that you wouldn't buy.

Josh: So the, I mean, this is outrageous because you're like 13 years old and the idea was also the same.

Tommy: The gigs go go.

Josh: If you broke it, for people who don't know the idea with the fuck me bands, these were, you know, popular in our fucking when we're 13.

Tommy: The idea was that prime fucking time.

Josh: If you, if you broke someone's fuck me band, you had to have sex.

Tommy: The best thing was everyone's virgins at that point. Yeah, as in no one's actually having sex. It's complete bullshit.

Josh: But it's also— I just assumed that you were. Were you not having sex? When did you lose your virginity? 15. What do— what was the specifics? You don't want to go into it?

Tommy: Definitely don't want to go into it. Mum's listening. Mum's probably listening. It's too young.

Josh: It's too young. 15 was— hold out. To what age? Uh, 17 is good.

Tommy: 17, 18, anything like above.

Josh: Like, I think year 11, sort of a good vibe, because you're like, you need some—

Tommy: if you lift me up from VCE, if you're a 40-year-old version, it's all good. Yeah, it's all good. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

Josh: But anyway, so the Volcom, the Volcom wrist, the leather wrist. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And you just made sure you got the really tough one because you didn't want anyone to fuck you up.

Josh: It was red.

Tommy: It wasn't black in this band.

Josh: No, it wasn't a fuck me band, it was just like an accessory.

Mason: Only the black ones are fuck me bands.

Josh: Yes, correct.

Mason: The coloured ones each represent something different.

Josh: Who came up with this? Who told you this? Gemma. Gemma, it's very true.

Tommy: But who came up with the fuck me bands?

Mason: I mean, it's weird.

Tommy: It's the same young boys that are yelling gay at everything, to be honest.

Josh: But I know, I remember, is those same people were extremely sexually— What are you laughing at?

Mason: I've just found the list of what all the colours represent.

Josh: Okay, well, we'll get to that in a sec, but just very quickly— Do you want it? Yeah, we do. But I remember, um, I remember being 14 and like things were very sexually charged at 14. Yeah. I remember a girl saying to me, she said, my parents are away, uh, you can come over and we can do whatever you want. And then she said, I was like, oh, you naughty bitch. It wasn't Shruti. And then, can we not defame on the podcast, please?

Tommy: Well, Shruti was your girlfriend at one point.

Josh: It wasn't Shruti.

Tommy: It wasn't Shruti. No, sure.

Josh: It was a girl named Carly. Okay. I haven't said the last name, so we should be okay. I never said Shruti's last name. Turns out that she actually, the girl who said this, Carly, ended up I had an employee for a short period of time. It was actually a contractor, he was just doing some work, and he was moving out of his place and he was having all of these pains in the ass with the property manager. And then I saw the name, like, hang on a sec, that was Carly. And so she's doing that now, she's a property manager.

Tommy: But anyway, we've really profiled— you can probably find her if you want within the Doncaster area.

Josh: And, um, yeah, it is No, but, uh, no, she was lovely. We dated for a short period of time, uh, but no, but she did say, she said, um, my parents are going away, you can come over, we can do anything. And she said, if it makes you feel better, um, because I was like, ah, I don't know, like, I think it would be a bit sus, like, uh, you know, just me going over to your house on your own. She's like, we can invite, uh, two other people and they can go into another room. I was 14, I didn't even have pubes. I was absolutely scared shitless. Anyway, on the Vulcan Band, the— it was for Christmas. I really wanted it for Christmas. It was from like a surf shop. Remember when surf shops were huge? So every, every shopping centre had a surf shop and I thought it was like $20. I was like, Mum had been saying, yeah, you can get for Christmas. And I thought it's low enough level that I'll definitely get it. Christmas came around and, um, opened up different things. No wristband. And I asked them about it. They said, oh, we didn't know that's what you wanted. And I absolutely fucking cracked it. I was like screaming. I was in hysterics. And the worst thing was then my brother Jake comes out with the wristband after I had just blown up. And so they got exactly what they wanted. You know what, they revealed how much of a fucking asshole I was.

Tommy: I don't have that done to me much. From people in my life. Well, it's because I wonder if they do it to you because they know that that's the kind of reaction you get. The person that gives the reaction of saying, 'Mate, I didn't get you a coffee,' and then bringing it out, 'I got you a coffee,' is that person that you really— you know what they'll give you.

Josh: Why is everyone trolling me all the time? They think I've got a lot of trolls. Does Amy ever troll you?

Tommy: No, because my point is, the only time she trolls me with that shit is if I do it to her. She gets me back. And so my point is, it's you, dude.

Josh: Bri was annoyed at something that, um, I did the other week, and it was so fun. It was— this is such a fun— like, her and I were laughing about it afterwards. She had a serious conversation. She sits down with me and she's like, so you're probably wondering why I haven't been that intimate this week. I just thought, what do you mean this week? Like, it's, it's quite a— being in a long-term relationship. Oh yeah. It was just quite a— I'm a virgin. No, I'm joking. It was quite a funny thing to say. Happy wife, happy life. Um, but yeah, I thought she— I think she said, oh, now don't bring this up on the podcast. I'm sort of starting to get a bit worried.

Tommy: And you see why she trolls him all the time.

Josh: Anyway, so yeah, I thought that was a fun story. Whatever. What have you got on the LA fact of the day with our upcoming LA trip?

Mason: Do you know the reason why LA is the hub for film? Uh, yeah, because Hollywood's there.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: And do you know why they decided to put Hollywood in LA?

Tommy: Because it's a desert and there was lots of space. Good weather. Great weather.

Mason: No, it's because Thomas Edison, the inventor, had all these patents.

Josh: Of what?

Mason: What did he invent? Uh, the telegraph, record player, light bulb, alkaline storage battery, and a camera for motion picture. Just a couple. Yeah, I mean, pretty good inventor, but he held all the patents for like motion pictures in New Jersey, and so everyone was sued for trying to create productions in New York, and so they decided to flee to LA so it was harder, um, for people to enforce the patents.

Josh: That's so interesting. There's actually, um, a thing called like a patent troll. And so what these— these are people who have bought— what have we got? What's happening on Instagram? Anyone talking to us?

Mason: Um, I mean, Gemma, Gemma got a message from a 13-year-old. This is back in the day, not just recently.

Tommy: Okay, good clarification.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, I mean, otherwise, roses are red, violets are blue, other than your virginity, what else have you got to lose? Wow, a bit weird from a 13-year-old. Yeah, I'll imagine that.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, firehotquotes.com would have been where he got that. Um, what was I just saying?

Tommy: I don't know, mate. It was about the patents. Oh, patents. Patents. Patents.

Josh: So basically there's a, there's a huge thing like where these big businesses like this, you know, big organisations basically get patents and then come after everyone. So there was actually, there's a case around podcasting where a bunch of big podcasters about 10 years ago all got taken to court for doing podcasting. Really? I know that, uh, Envato, it's on like the public record, they had to go to like, they had representatives that had to go to Dallas, to Texas, to fight, uh, a patent troll around marketplaces. So if you had a marketplace, this company was basically suing every single marketplace. Wow. Going after all of them.

Tommy: Like, what a gross business. Yeah, what a gross business model, because they're trying to get money out, they're trying to get payouts.

Josh: I think, uh, Adam Carolla I think he's, uh, no, the comedian. He was, um, uh, he, he got, uh, taken down by the patent troll. They did like an out-of-court settlement. So it's still like it costs people a shit tonne of money. Yeah, I guess when you sort of have to, like, it's like they can just keep bringing it on and on and on.

Tommy: Um, I think when, when, when stuff works, then is the chance when people see the opportunity, because that's what they're doing. They're going, what's an opportunity here? Who can we get money out of?

Josh: Yeah, I mean, it's fucked.

Tommy: Uh, those other, um, the bands that we used to work—

Mason: the coloured bands. Oh yeah, you want them?

Tommy: He's— this is his caveat. He like— he's, he's giving you—

Josh: can I guess? Can I guess one? Is white— the white band— is the white band Kissing? Nah, Flash Your Tits.

Mason: Okay, keep going. I mean, they get— so orange is Kiss, yellow's Hug, clear is whatever you want. Blue, whatever you want. Is that—

Tommy: that's— yeah, that's, um, it's the property manager from Doncaster. That was the band she had. Go on.

Mason: Red, lap dance. Blue, blow job. Silver, fisting. Pink, flash.

Tommy: And where are these being sold? Is it Crazy Clint's?

Josh: I think that's still around, that shop. No. Do you remember Clint's? No, it was in Dever Hills. Interesting facts there.

Tommy: I mean, yeah, I mean, old school, 2019. Yeah, if you grew up in the '90s in Australia, that was the shit going on at primary schools, high schools.

Josh: Yeah, isn't it crazy?

Tommy: Yeah, I think it's gonna—

Mason: Frank's Kissing.

Josh: But think about it, there was— kids are experimenting, aren't they? There was a bottle. Can you do Spin the Bottle? Did you ever do Spin the Bottle?

Tommy: We talked about Kiss Chaser.

Mason: You can't do that. No, we didn't. I mean, we, we didn't have these bands. That wasn't a thing. Yeah.

Josh: Did you do, did you do spin the bottle ever?

Mason: No, not really. I mean, but it's also, it also wasn't the group that I was part of as well. Okay. I'm sure other people, I'm sure other people would have done spin the bottle.

Josh: Yeah. Oh, it was such a fun time, spin the bottle. But the pro— what was so upsetting is when the— you see people's like dismay, like as it's starting to turn to me, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's just like, it's really bad for your, for, for morale.

Tommy: I remember holding the door while people like were kissing in the— this one girl, a girl who I went out with, like you had to stand like, mind the door, I stood holding the door while they made out. But then I ended up going out with her a couple of months later.

Josh: Classic, uh, bait and switch.

Tommy: I put in the effort for her and she rewarded me.

Josh: I was thinking it's like, um, this LA trip could end up being like a bit of a school camp for you. Thinking maybe, maybe we could get a, um, a disposable camera that Mr. 97 can take as his camp camera.

Tommy: Oh yeah, did you get camp cameras back in the day? Uh, would have been digital. Daddy got me DSLR. Yeah, no, I can't.

Mason: Oh, actually no, I had, I had a 5D Mark III. Yeah, yeah, I had a, I had a little point-and-shoot, little RX100, Sony glass.

Josh: I had the adapter. Yeah, yeah, it had to be Zeiss. Means. Yeah, that's a great idea.

Tommy: We'll get him a flat, like a little, just like the winding disposable. And so you're going to do Mr. 97's LA adventures.

Mason: Yeah, I love it. Leah wants a camp scrapbook. Oh, that's a great—

Tommy: I loved them. Yeah, yeah, we'll get creative, get a bit artsy.

Josh: I would love for you to do it. The problem is you're gonna have to ask the TSA officers not to put the disposable camera through the X-ray machine.

Tommy: I think you could probably get it.

Josh: It's a film. You will need to— you have to let them know and declare it and say, hey, I've got a film camera, and they'll put that through. They won't put that through the scanner. Oh, that's great.

Tommy: Yeah, because they're pretty full-on in the States. We have to stand in that thing.

Josh: But it's actually just the normal— like, if you go on a normal domestic flight. Oh, the thing that just— sending your camera through.

Tommy: Yeah. Interesting. Anything else coming through? Before we sign off for the day?

Mason: Uh, Rob Ward messaged. He was like, so that's why you didn't answer my call, Josh, and he wants you to call him back afterwards. Yep, no problem. Um, and Jess said they used to hold the buttons on their school clothes when an ambulance drove past the school. So that was in relation to holding the belly button also? Yeah, yeah, hold the buttons on your, on your school uniform, all of them.

Tommy: That's a bit weird.

Josh: Oh, were you a, uh, So there were kids who would never wear shorts. I only ever wore shorts. Summer, winter, spring, autumn, all of them.

Tommy: I wore whatever I wanted. Like, would you wear—

Josh: you'd probably wear jeans, I can imagine.

Tommy: Oh no, you weren't allowed.

Josh: We— yeah, I know, but I can just imagine you being the type to wear leather clothes, shoes.

Tommy: No. Yeah, I ended up wearing like— it was a complete rort at a private school. We managed to get away with wearing— because the rule was they have to be all leather black shoes. And so we found all leather black Nike shoes.

Josh: And so we're rocking, surely, I mean, rocking Nike Airs. Isn't it so funny, as a kid you think like you've bet the system, but then you realise how easily they could just say dress shoes and you'd be completely fine. You'd be like, haha, you guys are fucked. Yeah, there's no option here.

Tommy: Yeah. And then the bag was a big one too. It was all about having the cool bag. Carabiner, Carabiner bags.

Josh: What does that mean?

Tommy: Hang them like— there's a brand, Carabiner, Carabiner. You'd hang them low. They were different colors, yellow, red, and would just like hang the bag low. My life, I just want the bag higher and higher to make my back good. Yeah, as a kid you don't give a shit, you're just like, if this breaks my back, I want to use it. You've got, you've got the little clips at the top hanging off the side doing your shoulder.

Josh: I do remember that, like, that was a big thing as like in school being like, don't one-shoulder your bag.

Tommy: I think they've probably outlawed it. See it, Mr. 97. Um, rules around bags in school. Because think about— I see kids that go to the private schools. The private school kids have given so many books, and like, they're always having to carry around big fucking bags.

Josh: I remember when the Kindle—

Tommy: skinny little redhead. I saw this one kid, he's in my mind.

Josh: He looks— was this recently? Recently.

Tommy: Poor little kid in the worst coloured uniform.

Josh: Do you remember when they were saying like the iPads and all that sort of stuff were going to replace in, uh, Textbooks.

Tommy: I mean, there's still money made in textbooks.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, a lot of money. You find any details?

Mason: No, no, but Leah's just come up with another great idea. Wear a white t-shirt like you do at Year 12 and get it signed.

Josh: Oh, that's great, from all the guests. Yeah, yeah, we— it would be great to do a just a small run for us, a tour t-shirt. It's on the back, it has like the, uh, the year, Los Angeles, like whatever cities we go to.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, LA 20 19. That'd be fun.

Josh: We, we— I had to do a big, um, a big presentation in year 12 about trying to do year 12 hoodies. The principal would not have a bar of it. She wouldn't let us have, um, hoodies in year 12. She thought that it was opportunities for us to cover our faces when we're like fucking like doing naughty shit. Isn't that crazy? Anyway, I should have pushed way harder on that.

Tommy: But they also— let's push hard now to do it for our hoodies and t-shirts, for our t-shirts.

Josh: Yeah, polos. I haven't worn a polo in many years.

Tommy: Mr. 97, it'd look good on a polo. Anyway, uh, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Josh: It's a daily talk show. Uh, if you've got anything to contribute, maybe you've got, uh, other details on the, uh, the fuck me bans, which were just completely outrageous.

Tommy: What was the weird thing that you had at your school that was going on? Because I think it's just there's some weird shit going on. Maybe if you know something now that's happening that will blow our minds, like you've got kids, or—

Josh: It'd be fun to do a documentary series where we like go inside the schools.

Tommy: I mean, have you got working with children's volunteer only? Uh, yeah, actually they don't even look. I just put employer, employee of the bit of what?

Josh: Just get one.

Tommy: I got one and I, and I, and I And I should just get him. It was too confusing and I just picked the bit. So technically I work for a school on my children's check. They don't have a check. They didn't ask for any details. I was like, oh, that's the only one that's really relevant to me because I'm not volunteering, I'm getting paid. And so I'm an employee of a school. I don't know, it just says that on there.

Josh: Anyway, today's talk show, uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Otherwise, uh, we'll see tomorrow, guys. See ya.