Throwback Thursday

Tommy: It's a very low barrier to get into the Gronk Squad.

Josh: That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.

Tommy: Hi guys! Hi guys!

Josh: Put it in the calendar. I'd just like to cheque the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.

Tommy: It is outrageous.

Josh: Come on, let's go. It's The Daily Talk Show episode 1003.

Tommy: What is happening? What is going on? Happy Thursday.

Josh: We missed yesterday. Yeah, it's been a while since we, uh, we haven't really done that.

Tommy: Never, never missed. Sorry, I just took a big gulp of my vitamin C drink.

Josh: How is it?

Tommy: It's great.

Josh: Yeah, we've been— we've all— the whole office has been— we're not sick, we're all, uh, working, but there is an exhaustion. Yeah, if you didn't hear the episode where we talked about the ransomware, dealing with all of that, there's been work happening, a lot of shoots on.

Tommy: But, you know, Amy's sick as a dog, she has to cancel her trip to Sydney.

Josh: That's annoying.

Tommy: Poor thing. My—

Josh: When did she make the call?

Tommy: Made the call to me today.

Josh: And so, she was going to be going to see—

Tommy: Tomorrow night.

Josh: Who was she seeing?

Tommy: Her besties. All her besties and Mama, which is one of her besties.

Josh: And because she's due in 6 weeks, 5 weeks.

Tommy: 32 weeks. So, it's like 8 weeks.

Josh: 8 weeks.

Tommy: Okay. But very annoying. Pregnant, sick. Like I had to go last night to the chemist, and I was like, I'll get you some anti, sort of anti-antiseptic mouthwash, like the rinse gargle for your throat. Can't have it. Like these things that I just— because you're not even taking it in, it's, um, it's the anaesthetic in it that's no good for you. Even like, um, mouth— like lozenges, couldn't get.

Josh: That's a good segment. What can't you— what are the surprising things you can't eat whilst pregnant?

Tommy: Well, there's fish, obviously. Yeah, a bunch of— I mean, not obviously, it's not obvious to anybody. I hate it when people say obviously. It's like, fuck, fuck, man, I'm not a— I'm not a woman, don't plan on getting pregnant as a guy. Yeah, but it's, it's, um, so mercury in fish, medley fish, uh, can't have. Anyway, Bodie's been sick, Amy's sick, my best mate just called me, told me his son has croup. There's something in the air, dude, and it's not—

Josh: It's croup.

Tommy: Well, that's in the air. But you just, you always want the person to blame and we don't know that.

Josh: Yeah. I don't know who was the person that got everyone sick. I mean, being at the school today filming, we're near the sick bay and we see the comings and goings of kids.

Tommy: Lots of sick kids.

Josh: Yeah. I just loved seeing one kid. He had 3 friends delivering him to the office because he was sick.

Tommy: Oh, mate, you got to.

Josh: Yeah. And when he walked into the sickbay, he said, "I'm back!" Was what he said, which I thought was quite funny.

Tommy: Sickbay for me as a kid, Wesley College, it would have cost my parents at least $2.50 a day.

Josh: Did you need private health insurance to use the facilities?

Tommy: It was not. So, back in my day, there was beds in sickbay.

Josh: Wow.

Tommy: There's no beds in sickbay anymore. And so, I would get a full sleep. In sickbay. But think about sheets, kids getting in there, having a sleep, then they change over the sheets. That wasn't happening. It was so much more lax. If you think about like, not saying that the reason we have a pandemic on our hands is because we're so finicky, but back in the day, think about how loose things have been. Loose things in society. Yeah. I mean, it came with everything along, like racism, sexism was rampant. You think about just the whole world.

Josh: Racism, sexism. And not washing your hands?

Tommy: No, but just like, think about this, food safety requirements for venues. Just fireworks, just fucking loose—

Josh: What do you mean?

Tommy: Just ability to buy fireworks. The fact that I could go to Chinatown and buy fireworks as a kid.

Josh: You don't think you could do that now?

Tommy: The fact that I once went into the city, found a manhole that was open, went down into the subway. Like, the thing is these things are locked down now. Security cameras. The point is that it's like you could have probably worked that out, but like so many things need to happen. Oh, interesting. Like locking the door on planes. Remember, I went to Bali and I sat in the fucking cockpit.

Josh: You're going to tell me that they didn't used to lock the door?

Tommy: Not when they had the seatbelt.

Josh: Yeah, sure. They're locking the—

Tommy: Oh, the fucking plane door. It's suction, mate. You need it. You know, it's— cabin pressure. But think about like going, I don't know if you ever went to Bali, but yes, you did. Did you ever get to go up to the front?

Josh: Yeah, Daydream Island.

Tommy: And going in the cockpit.

Josh: Yeah. And we'd get crayons and stuff. I don't know if it was Ansett or Qantas, but yeah, you would get, it was a really good kit. And I remember specifically smelling the plastic of the stuff that you would get because you would get all the crayons and the pencils and it had a smell to it that I loved.

Tommy: And so think about why they— it was 9/11, they stopped.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Stopped a lot of that stuff, like locking the door of the cockpit. They don't come out. They're very, you know, they— the protocol.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Things need to happen before big change happens.

Josh: They have to knock, you know, knock twice and go on the intercom and do all that sort of thing.

Tommy: But it's— it is wild. It is wild. I mean, it's—

Josh: has Bodhi been on a plane yet?

Tommy: He went to New Zealand.

Josh: Oh, that's right.

Tommy: He's been to Sydney. But I mean, he's already travelled. He went to Mykonos, Santorini in mum's tummy.

Josh: Yeah. A little different experience.

Tommy: A little different. But we like to tell him that he was there. He was. But it was a wild time. And so, think about security cameras now. Absolutely everywhere.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Less naughtiness. That you can get up to. Not saying you should get up to naughtiness.

Josh: Do you think that? Because we had like the protein shop down the street broken into. They had security cameras.

Tommy: Break and enters been happening even just around like train stations, train yards where people do graffiti, like where people can— People will still do it. It's like saying banks will never be robbed again. There's just a new way of doing it digitally. Someone inside. But it's not like the old bank robbery. Think about trying to rob a bank.

Josh: How would you do it?

Tommy: Common day.

Josh: How would you do it now?

Tommy: Dude, there's no point. You'll be caught. My point, like, I remember going—

Josh: If you needed to get a bunch of cash quickly in with using any means, what would you do?

Tommy: Will I get away with it?

Josh: If you're smart enough, yeah.

Tommy: I always think about, like, so think about if you had a superpower. I'll get back to your question, but And if you had it, what would you do? Like, where would you get the money from if you had to get money? Like, who would it least affect if you did take it? Like robbing a bank.

Josh: It's very public. Yeah. A bit of trauma involved. You sort of want to do corporate crime, wouldn't you? You'd sort of want to cook the books. You want to— You'd want to be a CFO of a company that's somehow, you know, just invoicing themselves or something.

Tommy: Because you don't want it to affect, like, The gronk that steals super from a company or something, you know, stupid like that. What do you mean steal? So we pay super?

Josh: Yeah, so I call company. So, okay, yeah.

Tommy: And if you're the CEO and you were like, yeah, the super's been paid.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: Somehow you were the only person having correspondence with the ATO, and then all of a sudden, like, it's— man, I know a guy used to come to the gym, did 8 years. 8 years for, um, well, no, I don't think it was 8. He got 8 years, but he did less. But it was like minimum security for fraud. What about that lady from one of the banks that literally, and I loved it, it's one of my favourite articles in the paper because it went through everything that she'd spent the cash on. I was like, fucking took her family $800,000 hotel holiday to Europe.

Josh: Silly.

Tommy: Good memories. Just a lot of photos, a lot of stuff she would have bought the kids. At that point, where are you telling your kids you're fucking getting all this cash from?

Josh: I was just thinking about jail in general.

Tommy: Were you?

Josh: What are you going to ask me? I was just thinking about people going to jail or there was someone that was prosecuted a few weeks ago and you were talking about how much time they had. Yeah. And we're talking about all of that sort of stuff, you know, someone, if someone accidentally drives into someone or whatever, you know, it could happen to Anyone.

Tommy: Anyone.

Josh: But obviously if you're under the influence or, you know, reckless driving.

Tommy: No, a guy that killed a grandpa, he was on ice, got 8 years.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I saw him. I saw him within the last 6 years. He'd got out. This was—

Josh: What did he say?

Tommy: Oh, dude, I'm sitting at this cafe and he walks past me and I'm just like—

Josh: How do you know all these?

Tommy: We grew up. We like— He went to another school, like from a good family, used to punch on with his brother, but he was doing it all. And then he walked past me and he's like, yeah, he told me something like that. I was like, oh my God, did you say that? No, no, but I was thinking that. I was like, fuck, that's blah blah blah.

Josh: And you spoke to him?

Tommy: I was like, hey, just a quick one. He walked by, hey mate, you good? Yeah, that's it. I mean, it's, it's interesting.

Josh: Yeah, but you just don't want to— like, there's a, there's all these laws for a reason. But when you start zooming out heaps and thinking about the world and laws and all of that sort of stuff, it's sort of weird, isn't it? It's like thinking about the, um, the solar system.

Tommy: What laws?

Josh: Well, you're just thinking about the whole place, the weirdness of it. So, the, um, uh, India, the go— I believe, I think it's the government or maybe some politicians in India are saying if you try and do some stuff around trying to stop oxygen or fucking around with the supplies at all. Yeah. You'll get the death penalty.

Tommy: Holy shit. Well, look at the COVID stuff, the laws that have come out. I was watching an arrest, a raid on Facebook.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And it was of this woman. She looked like she was in her fucking jammies. Looked like Sunday morning.

Josh: And— Was this from Ballarat? Yeah.

Tommy: And she's like, what are you doing?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I mean, and they were like, she'd obviously posted something on Facebook that was about sort of an anti-lockdown rally. She probably organised it.

Josh: She did on a Facebook event.

Tommy: Did she put it?

Josh: Made an event. Made an event. And then the cops came. But the thing was—

Tommy: We're taking every device in this house. Yeah. This one, the guy filming, you're not taking my phone. Alright, mate, give me your fucking phone. But I've got an ultrasound in an hour. Poor woman's pregnant.

Josh: I mean, don't set up a rally. Yeah, just chill out.

Tommy: That's old though.

Josh: That happened like, that was probably nearly a year ago now.

Tommy: But it surfaced.

Josh: It's funny you're talking about the surfacing stuff. What, uh, gets shown to me on Instagram Reels. Oh yeah, you were telling me this, uh, you were saying, mate, golf isn't going to the moon. You just— it's like you bought a Tesla and now all you see is Teslas. Yeah, yeah, because I'm just seeing golf everywhere. So like, Bree and I watching Entourage, an old show. Yeah, just a random show. There's, there's, uh, there's golf.

Tommy: I've watched those scenes. I've watched all of them.

Josh: So, um, That Ghost Town, right. So, he's in— So, we're like, let's watch something other than golf because I'd been watching golf swing videos, all this sort of stuff. I was like, let's watch something else. Let's watch the Ghost Town where the guy is in basically isolation in a ghost town. There's nothing there. It's an old mining town. Halfway through the video, he says, and this reminds me of when I used to play golf as a kid. And then he went on for 15 minutes. About golf.

Tommy: But it's—

Josh: you—

Tommy: are you being serious?

Josh: I am 100% being serious. Like, there is— but you don't— there is a move. There is— the needle is moving. Don't fucking not. It's like the driving range— the driving range is fucking packed.

Tommy: It's like me saying UFC, like Ultimate Fighting League.

Josh: I think you're probably right on that too.

Tommy: Well, it is.

Josh: I'm hearing about it more, but is it just because you're around, or is it that everything we're talking about, it's like we're not going back with golf?

Tommy: We talked about this the other week. Um, what's the sport? Yeah, golf never went Snowboarding. Golf has never been.

Josh: What do you think is? So maybe something, the things that are having a resurgence.

Tommy: Rollerblading. Done. Was for a long time.

Josh: Resurgence.

Tommy: Roller skating. I mean, they're closing down a roller rink in Melbourne that had been open for 40 years.

Josh: But sometimes that can be an indicator.

Tommy: Closing it down.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Indicator that it's done.

Josh: No, an indicator that it's ready to come back. Come back.

Tommy: I mean, golf is a game. We talked about this, GB looked it up, like the 1900s, yeah, or something.

Josh: Yeah, well, what are some examples? So I think fashion-wise, flares, like, no, I'm not saying the back, low-cut jeans, back.

Tommy: Oh yeah, tummy tops, like the waisted things, you know, all the TikToker kids. Yeah, like dumb haircuts, mullets.

Josh: What else?

Tommy: But you backwards caps, backwards caps. No, they're not out. They're gone.

Josh: They're gone.

Tommy: That's why I do it. Push against the grain.

Josh: Uh-huh.

Tommy: Nah, um, but you're talking— this is— fashion has so many things in it. You're saying sport, you're talking about golf being— for it to be here.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Or like be big, it has to have been based on cards back. Sorry, collectibles in general. But it's just because why, um, my mum would get basketball card collectibles when I was a kid. Basketball cards. NBA was ginormous when we were young and still is, and it's probably bigger than ever. Obviously there's more attention, more— it's accessible. Think about all the streaming platforms you can pay for that watch every NBA match, all that shit. But we're at a time where these cards are old. They've had 20 years of Pokémon. Yeah. And, and now the people that have kept tight with some of these, you know, boxes of fresh cards It's, it's coming in. And so it's like, um, someone was saying, uh, so a mate of mine's got a Skyline GTR. It's worth a shitload of money.

Josh: George, can we get a montage of every time Tommy is—

Tommy: I reckon it's about 2 times.

Josh: It's still a funny montage of you telling your mate with the GTR. Yeah, and it's worth $100,000.

Tommy: So it's not to the point. The point is, if someone doesn't buy it in— this is what someone said to me— there's a chance that if someone doesn't buy in the next 5, 10 years, or 5 years, the people that were my age, me and my friend who has this car still, we used to as kids go to car yards and look at the Skylines and be like, oh my God, imagine that, look at the intercooler, fucking, do you reckon it's got a blow-off valve, twin turbo, like go over the specs, fucking look at those rims, oh, Nismo fucking gear stick. Matching fucking gear stick and steering wheel. The kids that have the nostalgia, the people that actually have money— so the young bloke who's, you know, a baller who's fucking now 35 or 45 and was obsessed with Skylines back then has the money to buy now because he's worked his ass off, her ass off. But then you get to a point like, ah, that's a bit dumb.

Josh: Casuals change.

Tommy: Watchers. Dumb, but back in.

Josh: In a big way.

Tommy: Yeah, dumb.

Josh: Pokémon GO, obviously.

Tommy: Oh, Pokémon coming back in a new format. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was huge, but that died. Dumb.

Josh: Very quickly, didn't it? That was a real issue. People just walking around. But there was, remember, there was a guy who during lockdown was caught playing Pokémon GO. In the CBD. He got fined thousands. Yeah. But he was getting all of the Pokémon or whatever that, however it works.

Tommy: The modern-day fucking Indiana Jones.

Josh: Do you remember Clint's?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Crazy Clint's? No. It was just like a, it was like a $2 shop sort of thing. But it was, it felt when I was a kid, it felt huge. They just had so much stuff. Yo-yos.

Tommy: In? Nah, nah. I mean, I mean, if you've just bought, purchased $10,000 through a merchandise company, good on you.

Josh: I'd love scrunchies.

Tommy: Scrunchies?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What are scrunchies?

Josh: That you put in your hair.

Tommy: Always in, always in. Oh, I know, I know what you mean. Amy's got a bunch of the sort of the more retro vibe, like the '80s The, um, you picture someone in sort of leotards, you know. Yeah, I do. I picture what's that, um, Sandy from, um, Grease. Grease. But like when she's in her exercise, like some exercise gear or something, sort of blonde hair up high with a, you know, that's there. Um, yeah, weird how things ebb and flow like that. Fringes.

Josh: Bangs.

Tommy: Yeah, you don't hear— Well, not enough. I haven't heard. There was a lot of bangs, a lot of talk about bangs, studded belts back in the day.

Josh: Did you have a studded belt growing up?

Tommy: I think my brother did.

Josh: What did you wear for pants for the majority of, like, if you were going out, if you're doing anything?

Tommy: Depends how old I was. Chris Cross pants when I was young. There was a— Chris Cross was a brand.

Josh: Like a—

Tommy: If you wore Chris Cross They're just like fucking jeans but coloured. There's like mustardy coloured and purple coloured. Nah, like, um, wide leg.

Josh: Do you remember corduroy being big?

Tommy: Was for a little while, yeah, definitely. Um, but then I used to wear parachute pants.

Josh: Yeah, so that— I think that might be a fitness scene thing, maybe.

Tommy: Nah, no, no.

Josh: What scene? Um, junkie?

Tommy: Yeah, junkie slash graffer slash lad. Oh, actually, that's the original lad. That's a big one. Graffer scene. It was like Echo jackets. Spray jackets.

Josh: Bumbag.

Tommy: Got into bumbags for a bit. Yeah, for a bit.

Josh: I mean, when you'd go to Bali, you would have to have a bumbag because the cash, like, I just remember Dad, you know, getting, switching Aussie dollars for rupiah or whatever it is. And it's a couple of mil. Yeah, it's just like stack it like you're doing a deal. You feel like you're buying a laser or whatever. It's like, no, no, no. It's like you sort of got one hand on the bumbag.

Tommy: 32 mil, bit much.

Josh: Give you 28.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And the bum bags were big. But no, I— what I remember being the main types of pants that I wore were actually shorts. They were denim shorts.

Tommy: Oh, you've been out of fashion.

Josh: Yeah. Denim shorts, like long, not like sort of high, not sort of—

Tommy: 3/4 shorts.

Josh: No. Oh yeah, 3/4.

Tommy: Like the pockets on the side. They were called cargo shorts.

Josh: Cargo shorts. Yeah. I had a lot of cargo shorts. Well, because you could just hold so much stuff in them. I had like—

Tommy: There's nothing, nothing like seeing a guy with too much in his cargo shorts. Cargo short running.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, momentum, it's fucking gonna spin.

Josh: The tornado.

Tommy: I know a guy, that dodgy guy that crossed the road from me, wears cargo shorts.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: And he holds his fucking—

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Looks like a purse in his pocket, it's that big.

Josh: Yeah, I, um, um, the belts, the, the— Oh yeah, the clampy.

Tommy: Yeah, the clampy belts. What were they called? Fuck.

Josh: Yeah, they were, they were big. The, um, buckles or something.

Tommy: Oh, big laces.

Josh: Is that what it was?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: No, no, no, but I'm like, shoes that I got into.

Tommy: Big laces.

Josh: Uh-huh. I never got into Converse shoes just based on the, um, they're called Docs.

Tommy: No, they're Docs. Doc Martens.

Josh: What are the Converse ones called? Cons. Cons. Um, why is that funny?

Tommy: Because Docs are their own. Doc Martens. And then you've just gone with the short.

Josh: Oh, so Cons are just Converse.

Tommy: Cons.

Josh: Didn't think of that, but it might be another name for them.

Tommy: Chuck Taylors. Chucks.

Josh: Yes, Chucks.

Tommy: And you could call them Conson Chucks. But the Chucks is what you're thinking.

Josh: I would, because they were designed for a thinner ankle and I had quite a fat ankle and I would do some— I would tear up my ankle like you wouldn't believe just trying to be cool. And it was just so— because I've got wide feet and the shoe was quite narrow.

Tommy: Second time I've heard that today.

Josh: But it's true. But the— it just— it would just like my foot would sit over the sole, you know what I mean? Which is not good for the sole in any regard. Yeah. But like, but it just, it just felt like I was standing on— it wasn't shoes, but I was trying to be fashionable. Yeah. There's—

Tommy: yeah, there's been a lot of choices I've made to be fashionable, but I didn't feel good in it.

Josh: Pete Sheppard, I caught up with him the other day. You know, obviously I've been big on the Crocs, just something to wear. Birkenstocks have come back in a bunch.

Tommy: A kid that I went to school with, he reckons he used to tell me his parents brought in Birkenstocks to the country.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Don't know if I believe him now, thinking about it. Yeah, I think he just— I think his parents had a shop that sold them.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Maybe one of the first in Melbourne.

Josh: Yeah, that's still okay, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, the fuck. But I remember it was just like, yeah, my parents.

Josh: Yeah, there's, um, there's a lot.

Tommy: Birkenstocks I'm a fan of, but I don't own them. I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm there.

Josh: I could just say, I think that there would be, I don't know if this is actually a thing, but nostalgia therapy. So rather than going to like a psychologist or a therapist, you use that money to buy shit that you used to have as a kid. Do you like that idea or not? No, not like just a sad old guy who's fucking dreaming about the past. It's a bit Michael Jackson, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, just, I just wanna be on myself.

Josh: Yeah, but yeah, no, but the, um, no, but what would it be? So if you had to have a real nostalgic experience, if you're like, you know what, it doesn't do what it does to me, like Nostalgia for me, building a ramp, like half pipe in the backyard.

Tommy: That's what my dad used to build, his quarter pipes and skating and having just— yeah, nostalgic for me would be building a skate park in my backyard and then getting a fresh pair of rollerblades, skateboard, bike, all the trimmings.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then just every weekend just skating. I skated, I was just at the skate bowl all day.

Josh: Fuck, do you know what would be really nostalgic? I'd love to do this if you would Do it with me. Pegging on a bike.

Tommy: Oh, yeah. Pegging.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like the dinking.

Tommy: I'd dink ya.

Josh: Put the pegs. Do you remember screwing on the pegs?

Tommy: I had pegs.

Josh: So, we would screw on pegs. And the thing is, if you went to, if you did too much of a sort of a sharp turn, you would scrape it on the ground. Yes.

Tommy: I used to only have pegs on my right-hand side.

Josh: And then there was the cardboard that you would gaffer tape to the back wheel. And so when you would ride it would flick tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick and it would sound great. But man, I loved all of that. So even my bike alarm— I've told this many times on the show. You could do a montage on that George. It had a code.

Tommy: Andy's right foot.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. It had a code. And so if anyone moved the tyre, there would be a big alarm that said, "Stolen bike. Stolen bike." And my bike had never been stolen before I got that alarm. It was getting stolen every, nearly every day by the neighbours because it was the funniest thing. Because I would be sitting watching Home Improvement, eating some Viennetta ice cream.

Tommy: Having a fucking milkshake.

Josh: Yeah. Just being like, "James got more than me." You know, just having some sort of blow-up. And then you hear, stolen bike! And you're running outside in your flannelette pyjamas to save your bike. It's, um, put your bike out the back. Yeah.

Tommy: Your mum wouldn't have liked that wheeling through the house.

Josh: Cap guns were great too.

Tommy: Anyway, happy Thursday.

Josh: We're calling it this episode Throwback Thursday.

Tommy: Throwback Thursday. That's correct. Didn't even think about that before, but it's a good idea, isn't it? Yeah. Thanks, guys.

Josh: Um, I had something else, but bring it up.

Tommy: I gotta go pick up Birdie.

Josh: Okay, bye everyone.

Tommy: See you guys.