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It's the daily Talk

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Show episode. Oh, I just turned up my mic a little bit there.

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The one time Joshua want to redo the intro, which happens rarely because he always pushes back on may do it is the one time you had your volume right down.

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Do you want to do it again? I'm fine with that.

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Sure. It's up Episode 314.

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And it's fat Fridays. What's going on? Derek skirted Derek. I'm starving. And I just want to say right, big thank you to you guys for bringing me a sandwich.

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Well, I specifically told you that we will go into age. Yeah,

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that's Friday. So there's that has to happen.

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But he accidentally ate a carrot. He said before he came.

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Look. All right. My wife and I have a thing we call it's called a dignity burger. Right. So if you're going to a wedding and you think it's going to be some hoity toity affair, where you going to get you know, when the chase down the guy with the plate. Yeah, he's got the ranch. He goes. So we have a burger on the way to the wedding so that we can have some level of dignity. Yeah, right. So I thought, well, what I'll do is at 12 o'clock, I'll leave out between recordings. Yes. And only about and get a snack.

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Curry is in the life of a great I just stood

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there and I saw these carriers went

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out of the bag. Mary, you just like that's me. Yeah,

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so smash the curry in about five minutes.

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I will say I felt slightly insecure. early in the week we did a live show with Craig hapa. And a lovely lady was there who said oh, I listened to the show. I thought I thought everyone was there for Craig

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turned out some people actually listen to us. And she said, because I yelled out to Josh Josh

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she listens. And then she says, Yeah,

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I said what do you like? She says You talk a lot about food.

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And she I think she's fallen on fat Friday episodes. We were just hit me knee deep in the food banter, which will be no different today. What we got in front of us is actually hang on, just made up. What are you doing? measuring? Well, we

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can I guess how long it is? Yeah, sure.

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You and I've played that game.

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It's to

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me, no one

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to four.

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Well, that's eight inches.

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It's two, two foot to foot to foot sandwich.

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school to Derek. That's beautiful. And

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what do you think it is? It would take it was the game now.

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It's lovely. I

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just a little bit embarrassed so you haven't won as well?

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What do you think length

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was length was? Ok. This, he'll get it. He's the most handy guy in this room.

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In this room, so I'm just gonna say just under two fathers day, 22 inches.

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22 inches. So we've gone two foot in 22 inches.

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Why are we doing it all? In fact, we should. Yeah,

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I reckon inch

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wise got inches. 24 inches either.

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So if we're talking centimeters, we do centimeters just as a final thing. It's 70 centimeters.

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I reckon. 6062. What do you reckon it is? Yeah, well.

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22 inches, which is what? I was saying cinnamon

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5.4 times.

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Okay, seriously. 22

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Here we go. This is gone. How many centimeters

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in 22 inches.

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Okay, 22 inches. So 5.88 or Derek was the closest it's 52 centimeters long. So

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you say the whole thing's get it all works. I'll take that. So what's

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inside TJ? This is a reuben sandwich. One of your favorite Josh from Casady. He's just had Nikki whip it up for me. They don't usually sell them this long. They usually you know, some nice bread so I ended up going to calls and getting a this love this what do you call it like a rustic bread some way start eating it. I know you you get this thing about a Josh when you get like you'll be on hungry. And you actually lose your marbles a bit. You just start looking around. Why was

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I purposefully didn't eat well, how are we going to cut? Is that my piece that took

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so hold that end for you, Jerry hold? You hold that and so then I can hold this because that will be partly mine. I'll give Mr. 97 a bit of elbow.

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Elbow break.

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Miss. I was gonna say Mr. Derek, let's go to Derek. You are a guy who has a story on everything in the nicest possible way. Not like the guy who's got an annoying story on everything a big talker Nana Josh and I find you intriguing. Just that you. Interesting, intriguing. Interesting, the amount of rebrand you've done across the life. I daresay you look the same. You've done the rebrand in terms of career and what you sort of hobbies are shit like that. But I thought so I was at the supermarket before. I was like I want to find to something and to show it to you to see if you have a story on it. And then I was like, I need an obscure item from the supermarket. So I went and asked the lady where the specific armies and she cringed as I said it. And so I'll show what that Ottomans Hang on. I didn't

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even know they sold those at supermarkets.

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Sway Geez.

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Here we go. Yeah,

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right here is a can of Spam. Spam. Spam,

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spam spam? Yeah,

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what would you

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do? It was a reference to Monty Python

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skit.

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And so what do you have any spam stories?

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I gotta look, can I just start with one thing?

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I just guess I got sorry. I

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was just gonna guess that you fucking love it. I love

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Spam.

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Spam, Spam is like a bum bag. Or you call it a fanny pack. There. It makes sense. It's great. But you just everyone's just too embarrassed to use it.

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So it's revolting? What is what is it? I don't know. stuff and What does it taste like? I'm not just him. Right? spam spiced.

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I said what is the answer? Okay. Don't read you the ingredients. I can I'm getting stuff on the desk. That's fine. So the ingredients are pork 92% water, salt, thickener, sugar, preservatives color, human tent. Chemical fought 1520 I don't know what that is. But is there anything like what is there any stories that you have around spam from your life from your rebrand across the

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did once I had a combi you know the company's Yeah, Volkswagen bus camper that had a small can of spam that just lived on the dash has

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not opened but he has lived there as a like a decoration instead of like a wobble head or an Elvis or something. Yes, this kind of spam conversation status bows and just letting people know I'm not a vegan hippie in a combi.

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What's gonna break like it's actually got quite some sort like a brand that sticks out. I think like it's sort of old school call.

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It's like the pop out. It's like the Campbells cans. Mr. 97. I wasn't sure what he meant by dripping. Can you run a round the back and get some toilet type of Josh

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over there? Because there is oil going all over the table?

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You sound fine.

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I know I did. Because I thought it was just like you were dropping bits out of the sandwich didn't realize it was going to pour out water or whatever that is. But when I start

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it's going to be a lot worse. And

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the word you're looking for is its iconic. The branding of this is iconic. There's like a friend of mine makes.

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It's like pottery, but it's like Pol Pot pottery. It's like old fancy bottles and things like that. And so he he makes these out of what do you call it? porcelain porcelain, like, Clay clay and then sort of paints them and so they like pieces of art. And so that's what you're doing. You're using it as the art installation. Yeah,

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and people thought I was being ironic, but I do. I do actually like I'm the only one in the world I think.

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Well, you can have that Matt because it's not a character. I'm not

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going on my gosh, I've

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already asked Eric to list all of the who's Eric?

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Derek.

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Got a moment Derek. We asked Eric

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Jesus Christ

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I'm lucky what

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screwed Derek

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Yeah.

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The getting hot now. screwed Derek. Yeah.

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Your jobs the different jobs you've had over the years have we spoken about this? Have you don't know them all? Can you list them all please?

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Well, I I'm trying to think of them.

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Go back to the very beginning. What was your first ever job?

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a trolley? We call them trolley Porsches. You know, trolley pusher is

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like at the supermarket. They collecting all the trolley. Yeah.

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And those days it was done by you know, a 16 year old. Yeah. And so there was a new shopping center in rural back where I grew up.

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That's such a good idea, but I missed the 97th just brought plates. I didn't even think about that.

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A 94 would not have thought of that.

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Well 43 and a zero 46 definitely didn't think sorry dark.

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Thank you.

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What did I

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What do I get good. So that's good. I'm sorry, the trolleys

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It was a trolley boy. That's what we were cold. So there was a large ramp we had to go out into the world and get trolleys pile up. So we would collect all the trolleys and get them ready some way and then go and sort of crack on to the girls that worked in the chemist shop and stuff like

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that.

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So who else from cold? smash a few details and then quickly run back and put the trolleys back in. Good job. How are you paid? Do you remember? Just cash UDL $3 60

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an hour when I started?

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It's pretty good. What you add to me No no.

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So Tommy and I announced yesterday that maybe we might be leaving easy straight

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he's doing it you're doing it angry face. Yeah. You've got Castaway studios up the road and bond easy straight.

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What was easy and the facts phone keeps dinging by the way it's yours dude. So is it my careful highs might say this is the problem I've set up I message accidentally on my computer and so now every fucking time I get a message and things and everything what I drink. What is it to

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have a sip? You know, it's another secret mystery.

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Well, I did think there's

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a story out of this pinky fizzy sort of drink.

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But we're waving hard today we've gone from his jobs then to easy straight now back to a mystery drink but what is it? You know what I'm talking you are okay. It's good

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Derek it's it's it's got no real sugar in it but it tastes delicious. Yeah,

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what do you think it is? Us baking any nutra-sweet kind of backbeat

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now it's kombucha

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it's got to be

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kombucha kombucha.com but I'm guessing it is yeah,

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no

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yeah so anyway which when I say you again

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AC straight

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we don't hear about these jobs you bored of them.

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We got we went through the the trolley one is the least of all of them. I didn't want

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I want all your jobs like I point for I just

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got bored. I was

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a trolley boy. And then I worked in the nightclub when I was at uni

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bouncing what we doin?

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recorded that they call it a glassy.

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Okay. glassy and then what do they do?

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So the biggest newest disco and in fact, you're

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going to tell Josh what actually happens in nightclubs. Is it

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not allowed to this is what what's this rated?

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So

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unrated, so the

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big fancy nightclub called area and it was in the ad so it was a massive million dollars put in We will live in Croydon hotel I so Molly Meldrum surely strong or the DJ is from LA and it was just like huge in the DJ booth went up and down on gas Lyft for no reason and it was just that cutting edge. pastoral craziness and I popped in there and asked for a job and I said yes, your come in and go to the one of the motel rooms on Saturday night, seven o'clock. So I went down there, but I had why but I went there. All the staff there were dressed in really kooky shit.

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They had their hair sprayed with color, floral color, hair spray, very it had like bow ties with colored lights in them and Cookie, cookie deliberately cookie and they were all cookie. So it was obviously a thing. TJ Mike downplays Josh

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sky

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casting, so I I turned up dressed like a blues brother, so full suit.

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Did you get the cookie memo or you just rocked up?

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I said, What do I wear? I said, What do I wear? And they said, just jeans and a T shirt will be fun. Yeah, we'll take care of the rest.

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So I've gone along

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as a blues brother, full hat. I found some Sundays in my mom's drawer that were purple, but they were kind of right. And texted them black.

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And I went along tiny, thin tie wasn't hard to find in those days, we all had them. And I went along. And I and I just did pan I said, I was told to come here. And the girl was in there. The hairdressing girl dressing the staff up at and she turned and she said you'll find as you are

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you Boston I hated on me because I got to be sort of cool. Yeah. And there had to be all fluorescent. And I used to go around busing though with the Sundays on couldn't see

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what the fuck

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is passing, passing his guy with the trade drink trains, like gronk cycles of half finished drinking he is to take it back to the cupboard.

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27 What did you actually think busing was when you heard them say busing? Did you know what they were talking about? No, I had no idea. Yeah.

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I thought

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I literally thought it was you at the front like monitoring by conspiracy. Jimmy used to be Rossi. Yeah, he's been. He found so much stuff. Like on the ground. I found hundreds

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of bucks

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and hundreds of biggies. Yeah, yeah.

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The bookies weren't around in my day. What would you find it?

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What was the drug back the cash?

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Robo no one has cash Angela bra

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class fights in those days they had before they had controlled bounces? Yeah. You had different group that many bounces in there is

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what do you mean controlled bounces? What we have

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a license and you had to do a course. And so that wasn't it. Then at the start, it was just free for all so you had a group of kind of kick boxes. And you had a group that were like Vietnam vets like sex soldiers. You had a group that were just like, super tough guys. They're just like, groups. Yeah. Or working as bands? Yeah. And if there's no trouble of a night, sometimes at the end whenever I'm sitting down that primitive tap system, so hello, runoff, about 20 jugs to claim the taps. Yeah. So we will have to drink it all as much as possible. But these bounces would stop fighting each other though. Yeah,

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the bounces what bigger issues in the Troy people through the windows? Yeah.

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Isn't nothing strange? And you know who was a bouncer at potential? It might have been a Ringwood nightclub, Craig hapa. Really so when he in his day used 110 kilos solid used to work at one of those like these those mega clubs, so just not

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some way out that way.

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But he's in a big gym like world gym opened up.

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Really? any connection with a gym? It's probably

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so what are the what are the

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bossy

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trolley guy bossy?

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Then it got then I worked as a storm and in a Tile Shop for a little while.

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Then I

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then I started working as bomb and when I was studying jello yet, and

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then it sort of old right after that. Then I became what was known as a whole keeper. This is a fascinating job. It's like the lowest you can get in a local council. Holy the guy who has to do everything that everyone goes, That's not my job, kind of thing. You know, there's like a caretaker security of a venue chauffeur of the offices of the main office like a fixer. Hundreds of people in those days. The offices, everyone smoke diaries. Yeah. So you had an open plan office, enormous open plan office that had 250, 300 people working in there and like, like in the movies, and the newspaper office or whatever, or punch in diaries, and ashtrays and you cross through the whole place stank and the smoker. Yeah, yeah.

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So I didn't even notice. When did you because you don't smoke. Now, do you know, what was the quitting date? When did you

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quit? What was the last diary?

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I haven't got a date for it. It was it was a year kind of picture. I'm guessing, possibly about 12 years ago. Not that long ago. Or maybe more. Maybe more.

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We know you can't just say more just because Tommy said it was a

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good response. Actually, maybe was a 10 years ago.

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What was the feeling bit shorter breath. I went to a doctor and this doctor in this mystery, and she was a Sri Lankan woman. And she and I and I said artists like a shorter breath. Something wrong with me, because I was just a boy back there. Yeah, probably not even 40. And,

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and she just went, I want you to go up there to this place and do a test. And she just wrote down. emphysema. Question mark.

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I just wrote it down

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and sleep it across the table. And I'm going What? And I was like, I wasn't even. I didn't even think about the emphysema for the moment. I just went straight to what sort of shit is this? Fact? Is that shit. doctoring? Man. Yeah, you just, you just can't

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do that at least only

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how many would have even he is and whether it's like a

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How bad is

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likely doctors have bad enough handwriting that you normally can actually read what they say leaders die. Oh, and so you went to the you went for the? Yeah.

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And it was it was okay. I think. And so that was that.

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Was that the period of

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like, a cigarette after that? Really? That's all it took? Oh, yeah.

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Well, that she's then she's the best doctor that you could have possibly gone.

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She was my life with a brutality. Yeah.

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That's funny. And so the that whole manager job, what was it called? home? Okay.

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Okay, job. Yeah.

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But actually in existence? Yeah.

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God, it's the person that runs the show at a council facility. So if you go to a hole or a community center, there's a dude there who's let you in? You know, it's kind of the 21st

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was like 19 or 20, or something like that. Or 21. Yeah.

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So it was grass.

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Did you finish high school?

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You went to uni era doesn't know it back then. What was it? I just say 265. Which is a number.

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it's higher than 97. It's

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it's millimeters centimeters.

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96. The equivalent? The big gun like you're a legend? Yeah,

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it's about 330 or something. So he got a three 320 essentially back in, you know, he would

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he probably got 340.

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Okay, and so what did you actually study in school? Math, science, physics, chemistry, I sorry, in uni. Same, but why don't you do it? Like a degree or something? Oh, no. Yeah, yeah.

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It's a science degree. Okay. Yeah.

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What? What was the actual point? Was

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that a dumb question on my behalf? No, it's a great question. I just try to avoid having to say, a dropped out after a term

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that everyone dropped out.

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smartest people in the room drop out of the first one. So you realize that it wasn't for you? Did you like was it free uni back then? Yeah.

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But I was I was cut because I had to pay, I think was $180 for the year. Union fees as I'm, this is ridiculous. Education supposed to be free. And so

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and so is it easy, because you weren't paying was it pretty easy to drop out.

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It's always hard to drop out when you're part of that system where your parents come from working class, Glasgow commission, and they do everything in their powers to get you to a private school, work their guts out and get you up to a point where they think they are and then you you go to uni, but you're part of that program that sort of, I suppose less informed program that doesn't really cover the arts and creativity. But it just keeps you going through math and science and then you get to uni attainment and go

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for it. You've had such a good time when after HTC that your brain can't even function anyone Yeah,

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what you say when did the entrepreneurial you know the business mind? Have you come to the forefront?

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I went to studied fashion design.

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What Why? How does that even happen? Was it like a dating technique?

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A little bit unsure about what

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this is getting loose. Now. Derek's picking up he's

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taking the bait. Now I get it.

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That's a good it's actually a better idea. Breaking it down like that. The problem is that as the guests you talk the most. So it's going to be just 9017 coming towards giving us

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more visuals. Yeah,

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that's good.

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I don't know why I started making my own clothes. I think when I was working at the Disco, I started and I went into the city and there was an ancient

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It was called the job warehouse. And there was an ancient warehouse somewhere at the top of maybe Bourke Street. And it was literally just dusty. Our warehouse with all rolls of fabric was amazing. Like a want to go there. And yeah, it was like a spotlight from the 1950s that have just frozen in time real dusty. It was it was all dusty and not there anymore. And I used to go in because you couldn't get a Hawaiian shirt. That's what happened. You couldn't get a Hawaiian shirt in the 80s because it was wasn't allowed. What do you mean? Well, it was just totally not allowed, because it was only from the decade before. So it was like, fuck that right off. You couldn't wear Brown.

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What do you mean no brown in the 80s I've missed the whole history.

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It was the equivalent of a fashion trend now that wouldn't is relatable to the young. The young kids in the room, Mr. 97

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It's things you can't do like you guys went through probably went through a period where you couldn't wear a fly now for a few years. Yeah,

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definitely.

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A 90s grunge thing.

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And that will come Crosby shoes, like those croc crocs Krakow's probably the big one with a popular and then they go out and they actually come back in based on how unpopular they are. Yeah, and the pushback that, you know, hipsters have. So you're URI fashionista. Now, you're trying to find you're trying to find a Hawaiian shirt, couldn't find one.

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You couldn't get a Hawaiian shirt, emailed him in 1984. In Melbourne, Florida would hit really hard. It was not Hawaiian.

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This is the start of some sort of film that you think

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it had been invented pretty much in 82 or something.

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This is a great story to go alongside. Shirts shirts.com instead of like,

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product Nina, so yeah. Yeah,

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so I was in your warehouse, and I found some old original, a Hawaiian shirt fabric. And then I went, well better go and get the trading post out and get a sewing machine now was it? So I just made some Hawaiian shirts. I love it. I made some jackets and some pants. And then I spoke to my old art teacher, I said, I really like this. And she said, I did fashion at MIT. You should do it too. And I said, All right. I frickin will I said how do I get in and she said, you know, you just go along with some drums and take all the clothes you have made and have a chat. Alright, so I signed up and that year, this one this would have to be at 6am and that was the year that our MIT fashion became a degree really serious business. Who is this widow with these really badly made stealing? No for don't folio whatsoever? Not even HTC So

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did you even how far along did you get?

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Was it the Blues Brothers do

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I was just so unfashionable, I still am

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for it whatsoever. And so I did get you know got into john Gordon Institute for fashion for fashion. Yeah, and I

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studied fashion that year. And you did you do it to finish it

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and finish it but i as i was doing it and this is where the the answer the question from way back

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then. What was the question?

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When he's got it? I asked when I asked

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that art teacher

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what they like to see she said they really like it if your screen print your own fabric and she was talking about 20 years earlier you know what I mean? was like screens on your own fabric. So I went and got a screen printing material and actually made my own frame with a pocket knife and stretched it with a staple gun and script and cut out of thing and screen printed some stuff and I got into that so much that halfway through the the fat fashion course I just started a screen printing business. Amazing. You know

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who else had a screen printing business business? Craig hapa really legit had a big machine running like full operation? Yeah, I had a shift one in the backyard.

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What were the sort of designs that you were doing and the screen printing?

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It was just whatever people wanted? Yeah, you know us fitness clubs. Quite a lot of people go on to me and I just printed the fitness clubs. So this is your first business that was late 80s or mid 80s Yep.

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What's the investment back then in the spring print printer?

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Fuck all I think my 21st

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birthday present that's an official

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Well, I was just doing it Bruce Lee Yeah, not very cleverly.

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So you were just using but I gotta

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tell

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you had the character how many things for yourself I got it as a 21st present for my parents

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and that's cool. Yeah,

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and then I was often racy but I did a different thing I used to screen print black and white onto a T shirt and then airbrush some colors on that

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IDs thing the Hot Rod show at what's the what's the center just there the one that's close by on Nicholson Joe long no sorry Nicholson straight we meant it when I do

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yeah

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yeah

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where's the convention that like the Hot Rod show efficient buildings? Yes. Thank you. They would only not

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on Nicholson straight is it that's on the other side of the city it's no

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these two that's why the compute

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Jeff shed which no no no.

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It royal exhibition exhibition max

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we're IMAX Yes. Yeah,

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there's like an old school one anyway they they would always with the hot rod with the Hot Rod show. They would do the airbrushing on two hats. So you could get sick hats with the whole like a sequel?

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Well, they got real crusty all saved well, because I had it they would do so many different colors. Did you ever airbrush on to anything else?

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That's how I met a girlfriend doing it. She came up said could you do an Astro Boy?

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What does that mean?

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It was a quarter

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of an Astro Boy.

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It's gonna be interesting, Sammy.

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No. Nobody made fun of a lot younger. I thought

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asteroid away was like

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late 90s was more racing either way back asteroid

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boys probably from the 60s.

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Really?

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What the fuck is Astro Boy? Yeah.

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Astro Boy. Yeah, he had big headed me. Now. I had a weird kind of split like Sonic

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look like a helmet? Yeah, he was plastic.

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Anyway. And so the T shirt, the T shirt thing? How long did you last doing and I ended up sitting at the Croydon market.

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airbrushing you know, 80s iconography, like cocktails and, and stuff on to T shirts buy for people.

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These this thing? Are you thinking this is

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what I'm like?

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Was there a serious nature about not this attempt for the business? That's what I'm getting? I don't want to say it for you. But I see. I feel like the things Josh and I'm just getting enough money to survive. We fucking take things so seriously. I think about all the business. I'm like, this is it. This is made for the next 10 this is I mean, it gets more serious as we go. There's like probably the big most intense venture that we're committing to

28:47
Derek feels like it's more of the School of the starving artist. Do you think like there's something in that which is in the creative pursuit that like, I think about what we do. And even though especially casting, we don't make any money are speaking to a dancer a few years ago. And she was sort of like, she did like African style dancing or whatever. And she was saying how, like, how hard it is being an artist and she was sort of referring to me as like, Oh, you know, you must understand how hard it is. I'm like, actually, I was thinking in my head. As someone who does video production, you can make Okay, money. Is there an appeal to this the starving artist or, you know, yeah,

29:28
it's more pure. You don't have to deal with as many clients. I mean, my thought I've always looked at it and thought there's also like a lack of dedication and commitment or is a commitment issue within sort of giving it everything. It's like, it's always just ready for Plan B or just like, I can go do that. If it doesn't work out.

29:48
How do you feel about it, Eric? Now that Tommy slammed, you

29:53
know, just remind by the time I was 30 then I had a sculpting business that had three stuff. I'm okay with it

30:05
wasn't your thing. Yeah,

30:06
it wasn't my thing. I was just surviving. I was like, you know, having a good time. Probably too much of a good time. And you're just doing things that have we're avoiding getting a job. Yeah, job.

30:15
Well, how many people are the not the stabbing others, but the ones that aren't taking that seriously? They're doing okay. And there's a lot of intensity about it. You got

30:24
to be able to do that in your 20s right, Mike Jules talks about that a lot just to free work to shit that you want to do. Because when you're in your 30s that's when you start getting mortgages and having kids and having to worry about all that sort of shit. Yeah.

30:37
So you got three kids? I mean, you got three staff which is pretty much kids.

30:44
So what so that was that your next venture? Yeah,

30:46
so what did i do i just doing the screen printing and then I've backed off

30:52
living in England. Did you take the screen printing shit with not

30:57
a bit of a position because, you

30:59
know, once you're

31:00
once you're in a different country, you can say whatever you are, doesn't really matter, especially if it requires equipment there what way? That was an airbrush artist, right? But I was I was living with the Nazis, Northern Irishman in North London, and an hour went for a week of these crazy walks with this stranger session.

31:22
What's it called dog? I don't know elevation I'll say yeah. So we went on these crazy walks and one day this Irishman he, but he pops us into this weird building. You know, like a church or something? You know, it was a fucking bucket clubhouse. Oh yeah.

31:39
What do you say oh yeah,

31:40
well, stripper poles drugs. It was

31:46
because I was a hippie and I guys this Chinese Fiverr things today we're talking about Bucky globs. Paul's Jeezy getting a bit Jeff Jarrett from 1998 Let's go that

31:59
you know it was was there what was inside Well, that was just like he said

32:04
I've actually saved from movies and I didn't have I didn't have the polls

32:07
night policy. I think they brought their

32:09
then they have the drug polls,

32:11
but I don't remember that much about I just like, you know, you've got this internal dialogue going. Just be careful. Don't be Josh yellow sleeping on the news.

32:22
Debbie.

32:25
Can I just pick Can I just say something? Yeah, knock on believe comes from a narcotics agent. So it's a policeman is a narc? So when people groups that's why I was confused when you said Oh, are you a knock to a normal person? They're saying are you an undercover cop? So not a dibaba?

32:47
I don't think it's right

32:48
so do you think it David Dober is different to a knock? I think it knocks hands better because it sounds like knock is a police knock

32:52
he's short.

32:54
Underground undercover you're

32:55
not

32:56
Yeah, but it's relating to drug that's why I was like he's not outing drugs. drug offense is pretty

33:01
Eric and rat

33:02
but yeah, we'll also have a rat. Rat might be rat

33:08
I call him a rat dog one's

33:11
rat dog.

33:12
What happened? He did something that annoyed me. What is this all? Now you wanting me to touch your fucking

33:21
head like skin peeling off from sunburn.

33:25
Like your Red

33:26
Dog? I do remember that now? Yeah,

33:28
that wasn't a big deal. Yeah.

33:30
Disgusting.

33:32
So you're in the bucket. You're in the clubhouse?

33:35
Yes. And so I get introduced to these guys and they're just like how you could imagine the London bike is to be long

33:41
as it skinny on bikers was it

33:44
skin a different vibe like is this because I know like land over the way with it with the skinheads from? Was that was

33:52
can we just point out one thing I'm so fucking close to Derek and Mr. Nice seven always has a go at me about that. I'm always edging on the strain Look how close I am. I'm but how can I get any club like it feels like I'm very close doesn't it? It doesn't mean not to me. So how could I get any closer? That's

34:10
the bomb so rather than me bomb just spread it across but it

34:14
does that feel better? That's better. That's much as I feel better to you as well. Yeah,

34:18
squid professionals fair legs a touching Yeah, no one knows. It doesn't matter. Okay, cool.

34:23
And so skinheads and they're not skinhead

34:25
rock bikers. Okay? Yeah, whatever. Yeah.

34:30
So there's a what do you do, mate? And I said, I'm an airbrush artist.

34:34
Oh, you do a lot

34:38
to do our tanks. My you know, like

34:44
a whole club and put our club thing on. I'd never done it.

34:48
Before I just used fabricating and just bullshit on like brutally. Nah, might all my gears in Melbourne will pay for it. Bye. Bye.

35:00
I don't know how regal Dad I just went. Yeah, look, I'll look into it. And what was the plan? Ready? I was ready to say that my parents had sold everything.

35:08
When you went to London. What was the actual plan?

35:11
I never planned there's no plan.

35:13
So you got it. You were on a what sort of passport he got? Because your parents? Yeah,

35:19
I've got an EU passport and an Australian passport. Born in Scotland. So I did have a plan my official raised because if you say to have official reason everyone gives you a hard time. Yeah.

35:32
Find Bjork find to be your key

35:36
assigned the audience be Oh, yeah, I just wanted to run into that was like, asking me for a reason. I told him that. Did you find it? I thought I did one time because you're pretty life.

35:48
Wasn't

35:50
9393 because I was watching the Queen documentary. film. Bohemian Rhapsody. Live Aid happened to him. Was it like 91 or something? Does that sound

36:02
about right? It was it doesn't sound right at all. It was Live Aid.

36:07
I thought I was working in the disco. You could

36:09
have been it could have been the 80s. He looked up when live ad was on plays 97 So how long did you spend in the UK?

36:16
You meant to be there for one and a half years? Something like that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember.

36:20
And so it was 8585 it

36:22
was when I was at the disco.

36:25
So I think 91 was when Freddie Mercury died. Maybe. So what was the the actual living arrangements when you're in London?

36:36
What happened flew in my ex girlfriend who been there already for a period of time contest. He was an expert.

36:43
I want us ferals What do we link peak or something Olympics?

36:49
contest was to push for the likes of me.

36:51
How did your parents get out here?

36:52
Just by the way contest?

36:54
they floated? Yeah,

36:56
we did. We did. I had to Scottish client I wet my

36:59
pants on the line.

37:00
Did you remember it? You don't forget that. Don't forget that. I had some Scottish PT clients. Got the boat here took like four weeks.

37:09
Can you actually do that nowadays?

37:12
To luxury.

37:13
It'd be it'd be less like hey, just jump on a boat. You'll be in Scotland in 334 weeks but like cruise liners

37:19
could I go on a cruise?

37:21
Something go to Europe? This specific ones that go from here to Sydney to New Zealand I think. Yeah,

37:27
but I'm from New Zealand. Yeah, I get maybe like Vanna White who and all that sort of Polynesian Island Yeah,

37:33
that's European cruises but

37:34
I wanted to going the other way. Do they

37:37
have cruise line is that in the those rough? Cold

37:40
that's what I was wondering like a big fuck off massive like show. I will 97 soaking it up. I think you can you can sail from Sydney to London.

37:49
Really? See? I'd be sick too

37:53
much. How much?

37:54
What do you reckon? Let's get dates and pricing. All right, can I

37:57
get it? It's like a you're in stuff and you

38:01
Okay, so it's a lot of hopping around? Yeah,

38:03
what

38:05
11 and a half thousand dollar package gets you accommodation food.

38:09
Including alcohol.

38:11
Yes, I know not

38:12
to give you that but if you get on and you haven't got your wallet, yeah, four months.

38:19
A lot

38:19
of them are pre purchase using credit card you have this thing and surely it's not fucking for how long do we think? How long do we think it's going to take?

38:26
I'd say it's minimum three weeks? I reckon it will take

38:31
25 days. Okay. What do you think? 2021 basically,

38:35
Twitter is hopping around Asia I'm saying 30 days 32 days and I'm gonna hop it to 15 grand

38:45
okay

38:47
39 Grand

38:48
$39,000 starting starting

38:50
that you know that's a shitty room downstairs. Yeah, not a 10 pound Paul

38:55
and it's from fed 11th to may 2

39:03
well that's

39:03
fair enough. Yeah,

39:04
that's that's actually a bit silly. silly

39:09
silly cruise calm some people some people like a really into cruises. They're gonna die on a ship. So they're just go from one thing to another. They've got morgues on the ships. I heard like a phrase room we put the body in to say that. Yeah, take them with the frozen cheesecake. So anyway, the so you your wife, your girlfriend was in England.

39:29
Though my ex girlfriend. She met me at the airport and then we

39:34
crucell, she took me to the publishing worksheet. And then that night, I still didn't have any digs. I had nowhere to stay.

39:42
So we went to we went to a pub called Molly Malone's in little tiny suburb called Newington grain, which was like Stoke Newington, northern suburbs, kind of a bit sort of, not rapper baby rap mixed. A mixed suburb. Yeah, I do like the little suburb names in London. Surrounding. So we went and just got absolutely hammered.

40:07
there and happiness hubs in UK like London, I went to this pub that was 200 years old or something fucking ridiculous like this. You walk into the pub, you have to dock I had to duck six foot two. I'm ducking because it's probably about a under six foot doorframe. And it's got a leather cushion on this the top of the door front and he's like, that was the legit size of people. Well, that's what they built in like, yeah,

40:31
there's some places in Tasmania that like that. Not that old. But he has he has something like I stayed in some places that will like x jails are really going it's really

40:42
I wonder is that hot thing is not so much. I don't know how quickly we can evolve into of being a foot tall and weak. Like you've got a little fire and you gotta burn three logs would you can hate a low Sealy but you think just the posh people had high ceilings.

40:57
In logic is as bad is a thing that humans possess is when you just think to make a doorframe who's the tallest guy around. Get it? Probably about that.

41:06
That's why I think it's a heating thing

41:08
to disagree and 18

41:09
interesting. I feel like he knows that as a fact. I've made it up Justin.

41:15
Okay,

41:16
so you got plastered you stated the ex girlfriend know that? The publican we became like best pals immediately Yeah, Gabby his name was and what was weird as they closed the pub at 11 What do we do now? A bit ago and find a hostile sort of thing again, what are you talking about? The night is young and they pull the blinds to haven't just

41:38
at the

41:38
locking area until five in the morning to lock in the only difference between officially open and locked in is when you locked in there and just start rolling joints

41:47
is locked in an actual official

41:49
it's official term in in the sort of what is it the

41:53
culture yeah pop culture but what do you call it fucking the the name must be telling ya the one man had a man is going to pay to bar and that do lock ins

42:05
were a bunch of public can leave

42:07
so they know it's licensing stuff right?

42:09
So then I live in a

42:10
museum a license to a certain time and they close the doors and just keep drinking the alcohol it's just

42:16
like it's not technically legal yet. But it's not it's not a danger and licensing if you if you're clearly just having your friends around.

42:27
Yes, that's the owner with their friends have been in the UK it's just ramping a bit I closed at 11 which

42:32
did you guys ever do a sleep over at your primary school?

42:38
I remember that happening. I don't think I did that. I had a few quotes noses but

42:41
not

42:42
actually we had a slave but I just that Night at the Museum idea rubbing it in. I remember that was like the first I'm sure the first leap over I ever went on or you would hear his

42:56
walkie talkie it's definitely got walkie talkie vibes.

42:59
We did that kind of a school camp. More school camp vibe. Everyone in this big room sleeping. Just trying to stay up late.

43:07
What Derek with the school camps that you went on?

43:12
I remember being in a in a wagon,

43:14
like suffering Hill style

43:18
that all Brian's been suffering like

43:22
gold rush. Are you referring to the gold rush?

43:25
There was one school camp and it was still there. It was on Phillip Island. And there was a lot of camps and there was like the Hague wagon fake wagons so you cause bunks in him? So you slept in a wagon? We did you enjoy the summers I don't know why we do what do you make summer summer summers is that is the main camp down on the peninsula

43:46
are some is the suburb called summer. Yeah.

43:49
Down on the peninsula near the beach. And there's a camp there that nearly everyone goes to Yeah. Yeah.

43:55
Then went

43:56
to never went to it must be specific schools. Yeah.

43:59
Interesting. Okay. Do you remember being a good time? Are we sort of traumatized by the idea of going on school camp? Yeah,

44:08
that was a bit. It's a bit of a I didn't like it because I had asthma and stuff. And suddenly that notion of what if I wet the bed just came out of nowhere. Japan's on the way he

44:20
was six years old. On the way up here.

44:24
You see those days?

44:26
So it was all right. You had a great time on campus. It's pretty normal.

44:30
And so coming when you sit on a camp, you haven't bring up this now? What?

44:35
just remembered I forgot about high school camps.

44:37
Last time you actually thought about this shit.

44:40
I thought I saw your

44:42
child being around this bloke than I ever have.

44:46
I love

44:48
it was some of his best times of some of my worst time. I think it's I yeah, I was thinking about that as I've got all the kids like I've taken control most of what I've wanted to do and the fun I've had with this guy. He picked it back in

45:00
grade six I won the red faces competition at school camp. Oh, not not read faces as he read Simon's But no, I did I do that fat bastard in person.

45:16
That would be funny.

45:17
actually remember exactly what I said. Fast, fast and powers. Austin pet you know,

45:22
it's Mike Myers, just in effect. So he's faces

45:28
a villain and fat bastard. I did both of them. And all I said, I couldn't believe the energy. Like, is it? The teachers I think we're laughing at the outrageous this of the whole thing. Because actually, going back to the very first red face, it's like school camp for me became because I went in grade three, for a grade fall camp that we're doing, like needed to make up numbers. So some of the growth rates. And so I'd heard mum must have told me like they don't read faces, so you better prepare. And so I've been two tennis balls a dress,

46:02
and I got dressed up as a Spice Girl. And did so tell me what you want what you really, really want and all that something. Anyway, so I did that. But then when I was in high school, it was the big the big thing of doing the impersonations and what I did was it was very short. The fat boss impersonation was this

46:23
cat in my belly. I'm gonna it sure I got a bit of corn and my cob,

46:33
and then they all laughed. And then the second one was timely The

46:37
movie was probably just,

46:39
they just came out. I think it was maybe the outrageousness of the whole thing and that I thought it was funny. That maybe made it funny. I won't even do the Steve o one based on that reaction.

46:50
And by some poor bastard not with us. What do you mean?

46:54
I thought maybe that Pastor Mike Mike

46:58
Did you release something like you were you you weren't skinny then we're

47:05
now I was chubby

47:05
were you officially chubby? Yes,

47:07
yes, yes. Yeah, no, I was a fat kid who made fat

47:09
jokes So

47:10
did they so they did that did that release them to have a bit of a laugh at something like did I give the audience a bit of

47:16
Yeah, maybe a little fat kid

47:18
I was always front footing the fat thing always act like the like hey, look how quickly I could eat this Sunday.

47:26
I mean, we did it today with you.

47:29
At Sparrow

47:31
you accidentally ate a fucking calorie

47:34
to have to remind you been doing so you say you've left London you back in Australia then watch guardian

47:42
or Korea you find out more about the mate making out in the camp.

47:47
Really

47:48
just real quick or if it's not we want to hear about you as a four year of four year four. I don't know he was in high school or good Pash form for football. Yeah.

48:00
rightful or is that different different form for I think can you

48:02
actually explain Mandy I've had a crush on it for ages and then we had a Pash on I was just shocked. I was shocked when you look back then you go Why? Why would you do that? What did you do? You know, like

48:19
hopefully

48:21
I can laugh because we

48:23
do really laugh about it.

48:25
We used to do like

48:28
it was like the movies at all. Never is for the first ones. We used to put on a timer to see it was like with you know kissing girls like putting on a Tama right let's let's go really it would be timing at how long we can go for

48:43
it. That's a good little train for that blue light disco

48:46
I mean Mr. Nice faces shock

48:50
Have you done that Mr. Nice Oh, I didn't even know that was a cook time. Oh no, I was great. Six bro.

48:56
timer. timer the next day clock. It won't be sauce. It'll put it around his neck with little instructions on the back

49:05
of it the

49:07
main the passion thing The first time I ever pass on her name is Catherine and her mom actually worked at Mars. And

49:16
so you were it was a total inside job was getting through to the parent

49:20
that was actually it was it was lying fly Oh yeah.

49:27
Oh dun dun

49:28
the

49:30
know what it actually was was I remember it was the first time I ever had Mars by because we it was an interactive like it. It was a what's according to right now interactive transaction transaction. She gave me some Mars bar and we kiss my it was always sort of a

49:45
I hold myself library

49:47
yet. No, I was whoring myself out in practice. She wanted to key she wanted to kiss May. She was sort of seen as her and I like I hadn't sort of put on a bunch of white at that point. But she was sort of saying as the sort of doc here. One of the group. Yeah.

50:02
And so you get a bit tongue in

50:04
Yeah, absolutely. It was a full

50:06
grade

50:07
prep.

50:09
But that point is pretty young.

50:10
And you mentioned young son Tom, your son,

50:14
you can't do that with a headphone he just push the headphones in just a

50:22
he's

50:22
1111 daughter's nine.

50:25
Is he gonna pass yet? Oh, you know.

50:29
I'm just pushing.

50:30
It's my job to say like that. That role

50:33
for do I done at 11? What it What have you done? Shit. What great. I that's like you said

50:41
right. 65

50:42
I smoked

50:44
weed for the first time in grade five. She's never had. Yeah,

50:47
Who

50:49
gave it to you?

50:50
found it in a friend's dad's

50:52
rule. Everything you found in your friend's parents place? Yeah.

50:56
Some things we've mentioned. Yeah,

51:01
it was a warning. If you didn't realize my brother.

51:03
This is the start of stories. My brother came home. And he pulls out of his bag shows Mom Mom look at this Wendy go to me a deal though. Wendy taken it from a parent's draw. And given it to my brother at school and then he taught you taken home because he thought was funny is a dig.

51:20
That's that was it. He folded it.

51:24
Mom took it straight in the bin. Really?

51:27
Did she contact Wendy's parents?

51:30
You think it would

51:31
be too awkward? I'd be like, not going there.

51:34
So Derek, what did you actually do? So you had your night at the pub? And then

51:41
then he said, Look, you're well, you're welcome to stay upstairs. But you got to share a room with a stray Alsatian dog. But just be careful because there's a few words that make him go mental because I think he might have been a an attack dog spam.

51:59
He just hated boy.

51:59
My trigger.

52:02
So So I got

52:03
Yeah, stay there with it. Was that serious? Did he really say that? He said about the trigger words. Yeah, yeah.

52:08
I never make shit up on podcast

52:11
series.

52:14
So I stayed in it and I stayed there for a long time. I've been that room and the wallpaper. I even saw some ghosts like days. No months. months. Yeah.

52:24
Six months. I lived there with him. Yeah, yeah.

52:26
Sasha did what did you

52:28
do crazy shit happen in that place? Like, you know, Daniel Day Lewis? No, no, I've heard of him. Yeah. Right. So he was in the film called The name of the Father. Yeah. Which was about

52:40
one of the Northern Irishman that was in prison and stuff like that. So they had the opening of that movie. From because it was an Irish Pub. It's a bit of iconic like the bank or the POWs used to come and drink their stuff like that. So it's kind of the iconic back blocks secret place for renowned Irish people go to and I was out party doing young folk things. And when I got back, they said I you should have been here they were all hit like they had the after party for the opening of that film in the pub. And then when they did the locking, because no one wanted to leave like it was jam packed. Yeah. They had to lock it in. And they said Are we going now and Daniel Day Lewis and the Irish guy who is about we're both hiding in my room just trampling my backpack and my Walkman.

53:29
Just standing there hiding drinking a pipe dribbling beer on my staff. And while the while I got everyone out of the pub, so I could go back down. So there you go. Now the weirdest name drop you're here. Yeah.

53:40
And and you didn't

53:42
need Daniel Day dribbled beer on my sleeping bag. Yeah,

53:45
that's a good one you most recently did worked on scooters. And now you've shifted into podcasting? Yep. How When did you actually think that podcasting was going to be a thing that you do Janssen,

54:00
you

54:01
know you've

54:02
you've been you've had it on your right. You've had it you? When did you start listening to the daily talk show?

54:10
First 58 January

54:11
28. Yeah,

54:13
it seems like last year, it was pretty fresh.

54:16
Yep. And you I remember at the time Tommy said, Hey, man, this is cool. Dude up the road who's doing this vinyl thing on Instagram. And I started following and at that time, you had the rz vinyl show. It was just us on Instagram recording bits of you playing old vinyls and talking

54:36
talking shit. It's It's weird. It's like the foundations of the building that is my podcasting career or whatever. Yeah.

54:44
Still, just a little muddy patch. And that is the Ozzy vinyl show. Yeah. And all around like a ring shaped building. You know what I mean? It's all growing around. I haven't done that podcast yet. But I've done three others and I produce others. other stuff. So it's great. I'm loving it. But it was January, when I was on holidays. And, and I was started recording some of the true crime and stuff like that in the studio, that it sort of started to get a bit of traction and the whole notion now to a few corporates and stuff like that. That's, that's good. I've got enough. Hope to back it's hard to go from a business where anytime you want, you can get 100 bucks an hour. Yeah. back to where you've got to deal with people going, you know, giving you 40 bucks and going, Oh, my guests just canceled and

55:37
my time management is completely changed. It's

55:39
a whole different world. you've pushed back on a couple of times when we've called your scooter Derek. Yeah, what was the rebrand I get it? You've been the character scooter Derek on our show is it is do we need to make change? That is there something that we can do that assists the rebrand in the direction that you want? I think

55:57
scripted Derek struggle was

55:59
one of your in the early days. sort of push back a little bit on the branding. You were talking about rebranding? Some do with Josh

56:07
hat. Was it Ryan john?

56:11
Some early days with the hats for

56:12
hats was I haven't worn a hat since 2000.

56:19
Early 2000 Yeah, I'm pretty happy.

56:22
Sad. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I've had so we're talking about what rebranding meant. Like and I don't think I rebrand at all sure ever he fucking kidding me like 40 January fuck back.

56:33
At the start of the show you've rebranded I think you look is the same intent so your clothing rebrand

56:39
calling me scooter Derek is just locking me into the last eight years which is dropping the ocean. Yeah.

56:46
So I don't know. Not screen printing Derek or wrought iron. Derek or blacksmith? There we go. Okay, but Derek, do you think there's a lot of people call me dirty Derek but that doesn't really work in the long

56:56
we haven't had his dirty Derek actually come about?

56:59
Well, at my wedding. We were it sounds filthy. Yeah, yeah. So yeah.

57:06
at my wedding we all my friends were there and they just called me dirty. Like it was just that was my name. What not even dirty dirty. Just dirty. Dirty. Want to why you have to wait. But they all go. Hey, dirty. Can we get a photo of dirty this dirty that and my mom's going? Derek Wait, does anyone call you?

57:25
And I say that's because I'm a blacksmith. Just like the nickname came from wearing. Oh, it's just having black. Black on my face.

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And that was the actual reason I

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just a party. That's being a potty mouth. Being dirty just having dirty jokes. Okay. Being

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Did you feel of you because you're a pretty progressive guy. Now that we've seen the flow through of the me to movement and feminism. Interesting. How does where does dirty fit into?

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Exactly I mean, still a place for for being dirty. Without being disrespectful. I agree. Yeah.

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You sound so hot. not

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putting anyone down

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the place with

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no with me with me to you do as best as you can. When you're my age. Go through your memory and just scour your memory for anything someone might one day. Say you did. I can't really come up with anything. I'm glad

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to do it. So the dirty bit is it's just like a smart smarty. Yeah, yeah,

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maybe maybe somebody might be some good jokes. might have been dirty. Yeah. I feel like Jackie

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was saying with fat Friday's. Derek early day said, Guys, I think that the fat Fridays needs to be changed. It would you know, Friday feast. Yep. Yeah. Big fat and soft.

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callme. stoic, but I just thought about I was thinking about more about the branding then. Then, you know, bid you calling people fat calling

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you dirty?

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From a branding isn't graded or is it in the modern world? Yeah, I'm not asking to be called that anymore, but we'll still do.

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You're not gonna be called dirty. Derek. You don't want to be called scalar Derek I just what I'm feeling I'm Bobby. Eric. You definitely want to go there a few times. called Eric. That was a low blood sugar. response from Josh

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that was me dropping the day. Can I be 3d? Derek?

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Absolutely not.

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No trademark podcast. No podcast in there. I think through to Derek. I think I love scooter. Derek because the thing is, it's your the space that you've been in what we've said we've seen it transform over time to have excuses out the front and all that sort of thing. I'm cool with it. I really just pulling out that fast. Yeah.

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So there's a Derek in there. I'm branded up like how

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how serious he taking this now. As in the podcasting.

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Family, I've got to feed a family. So seriously. Yeah, we go. How many

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do you have? spam ready, please do that. That's two days. No, but how does that how do you? How do you think through that one?

1:00:06
I don't know. Well, my I've just really completely restructured my workshop area and being a bit more sensible. I've got a bit of a bit of a warehouse in Collingwood that I rent, but I've sublet it out to take a lot of the pressure off. And that should allow me to be more creative. Like since starting the scooters, creativity just stopped dead and you don't realize it's gone.

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You do this every time you do ever you've had it till it's gone to you. Did it get to a point every time with every single thing that you do when you look back at it with contentment? No. so screwed as was something that you don't before you went to school before you were doing scooters and say you're doing the steel work or whatever do you say if I can still work was soul destroying

1:00:54
night was creative? I have people that I can go around this suburban on a Porsche. Yeah, and see Stop bragging hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of work that I've done still on the dollar. Robbie burns out everywhere, everywhere you go. So I'm really proud of that work. And it's creative. And you sit down with someone you draw something.

1:01:15
Someone comes in as they give you 10 grand, you build it, they go. That's beautiful. And then they send you an email, you know, a month later guy we just love that. Just want to tell you

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what's

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going on with the scooters, you don't get this?

1:01:27
What's this? What's the pricing structure on stina? Or how would you act? Do you remember how you would actually

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it was

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what they drove? So if it's a good car, it was it.

1:01:36
What did you have any formula? How much is getting steals expensive?

1:01:42
Well, it was but it's probably a lot more now. Really. You just design it your mind you your

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to look at something. So it's about 60 grand. Yeah,

1:01:51
your mind is calculating how long it's going to take to do that. It is like the what they drive thing is a sort of a joke, but it's sort of true. Because if somebody like I did work for some pretty hardcore mansions, and there's they expect it all to be they expect you to spend an hour making that turn by hand in it. It's just and it has to be this thick and all that. So it You do have to crank it up. So with Rhode Island, you've got a new vibration plumbers wife from sunshine, looking to try and save money by coming to you because you're the manufacturer.

1:02:25
Like lady Yeah, the specialist Zach, the this morning will have a was sketching as we weren't getting you to do some wrought iron though. But we're sketching out a bit of a flow planet, our new office that we may have.

1:02:40
We announced it on your slideshow. Yeah.

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So we still we still need fingers cross cross the line. But you said to us in terms of how much it is per year. Because it's a woman we're stretching to do it but we're putting a chips on it. We're taking your wrist to do and you said we told you the number and you're like that's just big boy right? But I what I what I took from that was you're a guy who's who's taken pants, you've taken risk. You know like it you've had a space for 20 years on the straight and now the straight the joint across the road renting for 150 grand he

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far

1:03:16
it's crazy. But there's an element of risk in that is I think you've probably learned into risk across your time and if you're still here is still on AZ straight in terms of people like studying business. what's the what's the what's the scooter Derek risk assessment that that you take, I dropped a lot of I've dropped a lot of advice on people on this very topic over the years, which is weird because I have just been like, in the same place.

1:03:42
So I did move I started down in Abbotsford. Now habits and tools in a shop. Just building things and sculpting and trying out my hand at craft and stuff like that. But yeah, when we moved into that building, it was a shitload. It was a shitload of money. We just it was just Sowerby. We know what to do. There was no walls. No, none of the walls were in there. And we just got the trading post. Found a basketball ring. When got it from Oakley

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necessity. Seems like the first foreigner we should do

1:04:16
something and then there's a list of what we need for the others. And then there's priorities.

1:04:19
We just spent

1:04:20
two years we didn't actually

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get a small basketball ring. Yeah.

1:04:25
For outside.

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outside. Yeah. Yeah,

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we could probably get one that we will at from the garage supply but available. But ping pong table is your good are actually quite good at ping pong. Surprised. So I think we should get some ping pong and really up skills. I feel like

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that was your way of selling it. You know that? I wouldn't say no to a ping pong.

1:04:45
You know, ping pong. You couldn't beat me a ping pong.

1:04:49
Okay, we're getting the ping pong table.

1:04:50
That's a

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little bit annoying. But fuck, I didn't actually 97 if you thought of a sporting piece of gear that we could have in the office. Porter able to type is too much K level them. He's okay. Because it's pretty, you know, lightweight. Table Tennis, ping pong. Let's do what comes to mind. What do you think? Yeah, I recognize the ping pong. Or you could do like indoor basketball hoop. Indoor bass, just like a mini one. Like throw it across the middle one with a soft like rubber bone.

1:05:23
And so you got your basketball ring from the trading.

1:05:26
We did that. And we just spent a couple of days shooting smash the window. And that window still broke. It was it?

1:05:31
Was it

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was this calming the nerves of how much is now

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paying to skate. And we were on purpose. But that jump look at the difference between I've seen so many people. And this I call it the Johnson street theory. Why is it called the Janssen straight pay? Well, I'll tell you because on Johnson Street, you've got people that want to start up a business and they're going to throw 30 grand at the Fidel?

1:05:56
Whatever, right, right, steal stuff, whatever, right? spend all the money on fit app, and then get the stock and then standing there. Think about it standing there for two years. That's a bunch of dough. All to all, instead of getting in a functioning, walking walk past retail area, you're talking about minimum viable way to save money. Because they nervous about that initial horrifying annual rent amount. bucket discount get what you need. Yeah, completely. Yeah.

1:06:29
So you think that john, don't believe in your business? Don't start it in the first. So you're the opposite of minimum viable product is I know

1:06:35
get get the whole gets?

1:06:37
Yes.

1:06:40
Including coined a new phrase I,

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all of a sudden,

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I can imagine him speaking of Google about county and the fact in slide there. You've got your podcast with Dan Lee. And what is it called? Now you've had gone through about seven names only one approved by him hang on

1:06:56
to your hat. It's called hang on your hat. It's a it's a fatherhood, we did a season of what now? Last year, and we ended up talking about the same shit. And that's trying to be trying to be fathers, especially being old ones. And the harrowing life of the Father. Can you bring up we'll find we've brand. And this season, we're taking it more seriously. We got some incredible guests coming up.

1:07:22
It's but it's funny. Awesome. Because you started it with no real sort of direction you were actually got Dan on randomly is a mate. But then you just decided if this actually works, were a good combo. And then you started and then you've developed the branding the theme. It's great. Such a minimum viable product. Yeah, is what you did there.

1:07:42
And so minimum, minimum viable space,

1:07:46
maximum environments.

1:07:48
And so this you're playing this before will play the so this isn't yet to be finished. Is it? No, it is no, there's no unreleased so let's say this because you applying this first before and I might come and play it on the show and you sort of reluctantly said yes. We'll play it through and then you can explain what are these? This is the new intro.

1:08:08
This is this is going to be pretty close to what the intro is of our new show. Hang on.

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You're a naughty boy.

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These days

1:08:19
can't get away from it. Nope, the boys haven't tried. If you're not a father, you've got a father son of a dad or a football

1:08:30
the anger the confusion the love of course.

1:08:37
Together with this special guests here to share the highs and lows. The joys

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the most of all,

1:08:54
very strongly that Dan Lee that he sent

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me about like, so fresh about he kid. You know, just like little happy kids. It's so nice.

1:09:03
It's got like a very rz sound like it's I feel like we don't have that much Australia Anna. Like on in media. Like I don't think I see here many just fucking Australians talking. Would you agree? Yeah,

1:09:15
I definitely agree. We did that. I mean, we did the vocals for dad. Dad got down to just he wrote that in about a minute. Yeah.

1:09:22
Well, he's.

1:09:24
He's a playwright, a very good one. So he wrote that and said it just to give his wife who's a musician,

1:09:32
Missy Hagen's. Missy Higgins who I've actually I've covered on our show.

1:09:38
One of the Australia Anna, you know, voices. Yeah. strong voice. Unbelievable. Yeah,

1:09:43
using us at our own accent has always been huge for me. I love it. Yeah.

1:09:49
So this new venture for me. She's doing a podcast. It's very exclusive. But

1:09:55
But yeah, so we sent him. We sent him home with this brutal kind of vocal, then they just came up with that today. And it came in the email. I think we just use it as it is it Yeah,

1:10:05
it sounds so good.

1:10:06
I feel like mandolin will probably be able to roll that.

1:10:09
Yes. And then talking. I just love the energy. It's nice. And so what's the format of the show?

1:10:15
Right. Okay. So will be will be interviewing. Sorry, having conversations with

1:10:20
you actually say that distinction? Yeah, big time.

1:10:22
Dan's always. He's constantly correcting himself and me. Because I think it's important that we just take the interview word out of it.

1:10:32
So having conversations because we want to spill our guts, because right now, if you interview someone, then you've got to get their information, then you've got to do your own show. Because we they have a spill around cut. Yeah. So then we're going to do two parts, which is what we're doing with the first two episodes this season. But we're going to conversation means we can you know, the different kinds of dads. Yeah, we can lay the questions on them or taught them. And it's just about to have a baby. We can talk to him.

1:11:01
We'll link it up in the podcast description. When we move because the laces obviously it should happen, hopefully. But if it does, if it does happen, he going to come at least visit how often can we expect you? Because normally we see you What about what, three, three times a week you're popping in. I've got a feeling you'll be saying, Derek, can you bring me a giant Ruben?

1:11:24
from downstairs? Absolutely.

1:11:25
Because that is delicious. And would you do you think you'll get on board with you pop down a bit? Yeah,

1:11:29
of course. I can come on a bike. Do you?

1:11:32
Have an escape? Okay, last time on the show. He told a story about the getting pulled over by the cops. Or did I

1:11:40
stop spilling your guts Derek?

1:11:42
The Daily talk show.

1:11:44
Derek night. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks, buddy. Hi, the daily talk show.com if

1:11:48
you want to

1:11:48
send us an email, otherwise, have a good Friday and we'll see you Monday. Hey guys, I
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