#203 – Parody Vibes/

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Wait a minute.

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conversation, sometimes

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worth recording, with Josh Janssen and Tommy Jenkins

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a daily talk show everyone Episode 203 live here from Collingwood. Yeah,

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correct. This is our day away, back together working. This is more of an official capacity now that we're working in the same office. You

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asked him what day do we actually start? Yeah,

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I can't remember. Was it just last week? You were in a bit of a haze last week feeling jet lag. So this is really the first week? Yeah, we're back at it. Yeah, been a few things what you love to procrastinate and bring people in on that?

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No, you just as a snowflake that will just do whatever.

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Try that. There's always different perspectives to situations, but I definitely feel it. Now. I think the it's it's one of you tried to being able to suck in the energy sucking people to your energy. Maybe it's, you have different frequency? It's, we've been talking a lot about co working spaces. And the we went and visited my brother, Michael, who works at a co working space. And that was this. Is this your first experience of understanding? Like going to one of the what was it the commons, which is a large co working space? Is that your first time going there? it like to meet someone saying I've met I've met people there before Lucy works in the same that. Yeah, it just so happens. There's about five people we know in this co working space. It's a way you said this would be a great documentary

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documentary. So I think that I when it comes to open plan offices, yeah, my personalities of reason why they shouldn't be open. For the it's at least the thing of if you are going to it depends what is an open plan office for do you think?

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Well, I thought that I did it to my other co working space, just an open plan open plan office is to make it so that everyone's on the same playing field. And I thought it was to sort of open up the communication.

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Yeah. And being able to turn to the person next to you.

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Yeah. Yeah. So you're not you can get up and say something rather than sending an email. Yeah, potentially. Which doesn't happen in big companies. Everyone is on the email trying

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on the slack on Yeah, going hard.

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But yeah, I mean, you've worked in more big media companies outside of ours than I have. And what are the learnings from the actually we the same as what you are here?

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So what is what is your observation can be offensive?

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No, no. I don't think there's anything wrong with what you do, unless we have deadlines. Because the deadlines can be pushed back. Like I always think even this podcast, I've pushed this back today, because for me, it can throw me off from an energy perspective where I put so much into this and then I'm sort of excitable about something and we go down a train a train of thought about the show and what we're doing

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so why don't we let's talk through the day and we'll see what the rabbit holes were How about that? Okay, so we so we got I got in quarter past six. Yeah, I ended up I called you 25 past six because I couldn't work out how to open the front door. It's a latch down

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the bottom.

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Yeah, well, the lunch was hard to open but I got the air because I

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know about the key and what something Yeah, I should have said you can kick it. I can I can use your foot because it's like

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I don't want to have to kick

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you even showed me a little hack of how to maybe open one of the locks the other day. And it involved KD

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Lang potentially look like right here was like

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lucky that's like my you don't for this specific beat the storage beat you actually can just pick that you were teaching me how to pick a lot. And then I was like, I don't have that K. And I was there picking the lock. I was like, Yeah, fuck, yes. This is my office.

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What are we doing is a different line of thinking mind. This is fun doing this. I feel like I'm breaking in without being charged for it.

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But yeah, so you got in early. So I got in early and gave you a call straightaway. I tried to sorted that out. But then I had a podcast interview. Yeah. from eight o'clock that I was doing for someone else's podcast. Yeah, I'm pretty full. I don't have any. I don't really. That's not that I'm not respectful. But when I'm doing my thing, and I'm in my zone, there is no regard in the sense of, I noticed that after I got off that cold. The last like 15 minutes was me talking to the guy after the podcast, and he was based in Toronto was the first time I'd spoken to him. And I was pacing around. I thought there is four other people in the office at the time. And I got off nice. I Hi, everyone. But I was like, actually, I didn't even realise Mason, who worked with us? I didn't even say hello. Like it didn't even register. It was like 15 minutes later. Yeah. After Mason probably had thought that I'd interacted in just by being here.

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Yeah. And that this, this is why I pushed the podcast back because you will last until maybe, maybe trip you up. So today's one of the days I actually noticed. Yeah. Where you are flying. And maybe this podcast in the morning set you up? Yeah, to be cognitive cognitively flying, flying,

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maybe in the sense of so because we had a meeting sooner. So that finished at 915. Yeah, then you were working on a little edit that we just put out of Los Angeles from our our trip. And so then we went down and I said you want to grab a coffee. So we grabbed a coffee around 930. Yeah. And then during that coffee, we I've got non negotiable here. And I've written down me to email a client for a job that we've got, um, we've got a record the daily talk show, we need to do a client audit, which I had down for one o'clock, which was us going through all of our clients that we had separately and working out which ones we actually wanted to reach out to and

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yeah, hundred percent. So there's a bunch of stuff that we've actually done them, surprisingly. But it's surprisingly, because

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we did a lot of things outside of the non negotiable, yes, before we did that. But maybe

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this is the thing. So the whole reason. And it's not like this is not some rock solid principle we've been following. It's been one day that we've done this non negotiable thing of one of the tasks, which makes sense, one of the tasks that you have that you were not giving ourselves an option. Yeah. to not do you

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have to walk walk away at the end of the day and say, I have got to do these things. Yeah. And as long as I do them, I can walk away and say, I've had a good day. Yeah, maybe did I put the did I set the bar too low? Because we've done the non negs, but it feels like I've done a lot of other shit.

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Yeah, yeah. So that that was what I was thinking in that moment of, like, I think you can be loose and have fun and sort of, maybe that comes for other people. It's at the detriment. Yeah. But you can get you can have a heap of fun and get a couple of things done

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with my book. My we have my brother here right now,

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that was an anomaly. No, no, normally,

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yeah, just

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invited him either way, went and had grilled. He had a basketball when I was gonna, if we had time, I was gonna

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test out some audio stuff. I had some, I had some pop in as well. And I I was thinking, so you don't want to be so strict in your day where you like, same anti social law, you know, you're giving pushback and everything. Yeah. But it is an interesting thing working around others where you need to put your foot down at some point. And go, guys, we have to wrap this up and get together and do some work or so

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I'm a natural leader in some regards. And so maybe that's part of the risk, too, is people will like we I don't know how we got onto it. But we started talking about the live streaming. It was because Mason was you and I had talked a bunch about the opportunities of having Mason who's been doing some free work and being like, you know what, like, one of our literally one of the goals he wrote down was around being able the people that we have on to help us to be able to pay them and to bring them on the books and all that sort of thing from the beginning. And so you and I had had that conversation. So then that was the first time. We'd say Mason.

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Yeah, since then. Well, yeah, you've gotta go with the flow sometimes. But you're probably gonna wait, wait like I get so sometimes. I like to read a moment ago. Now I might as well do this here.

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Right? It was like, it makes it actually makes sense. But yeah, about this shit.

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Yeah, I just what I'm battling with is when do you not you personally, but in any situation? When do people? When is it? Like? When do you really put your foot down? When do you get really rigid? And being rigid? Does that mean that you sort of not have no fluidity in creativity?

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What do you think? No. Well, I think that you can be this stick in the mud. I think that's the worst feeling. And what the unfortunate thing that can happen is that when you're in a group dynamic, you being the one who's pushing for the thing, that's the work that's not necessarily the fun bit isn't ever the fun place to be like it's an ever the what would you call it? Like, it's not the goal? You don't want to be that personality? You

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don't want to be a fans, but yeah, alright, guys, we're going to wrap it up and go home. Yeah,

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Sunday 1030. I think it's, you today was very, I think it was because I had the confidence in the the non negotiable, and that will still going to get them done. But also, you and I have talked about, like, being in a space where it's just you and I versus having other people in, if I if I have I say almost faces and people as little obligations. And so and that normally takes priority over the obligations that are on my to do list. So if I'm Derek comes in. I want to feel like I have a chat, which I don't Yeah, I don't want to ever be dismissive. Because I know that it's like a I can always because I enjoy having conversation. Yeah,

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by means people is one of those things. It's like fucking

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Seinfeld a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah. As you say that someone was walking out with a large painting and delivery guy had vodka, the Seinfeld episode, just walking down the stairs, dropping it. Now the difference is, there is I remember working in a gym, and it felt like there should be some reality TV show, or just some comedy about the personalities and quirks just like a co working space. Yeah, there's I mean, this is why Ricky device is so rich, because he actually just did that.

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So do you think what was it like when you're working at the bigger radio stations when you weren't necessarily the talent, but you would day to day grind? digital content producer? Yeah. Was there a lot of banter going on was a lot of walking around. And

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it's good. I mean, the departments really a broken up so you can sort of, you know, it's almost like you walk over a group of people. They're all working why, but you've got friends there. And then you can feel like you can, you don't feel? Yeah, it's like a new, you know, when you walk up and just what's going on over here. It's like gives you it's entertainment, though. It's selfish. Because it does like is it they looking at and going, Yeah, they're being polite. But then you can get them so you can sense when they don't want to bother of it. And then you can hook them in and then they're on.

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Well, Bray loves the chat. And but she's also super efficient, super driven, super focused. And so she's gotten back from a trip and she's already said, like, I have become the person that people will go to if they want to have a chat. What do I do? She said, What do I do? Because I don't want to? I don't want to like, be rude. Yeah. And so my tactic is I said, just wear headphones. If you have to physically like I'm not a company to work for Chase Jarvis. Oh, it's right up to him.

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podcast.

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If you're at someone's desk, and they've got headphones, Ivan's thought about it with Jimmy, our mate, conspiracy theorists, Jimmy. Nobody's nickname Can we make that his nickname or? No? That's a good example. My Tuesday. I think I spent 45 minutes talking to him about the mainstream media

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and the American political landscape. Yeah, I opted out of that.

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Go for that. I think I just live for those for 45 minutes.

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I know. I was doing something else on this one.

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Yeah. Did we have that? But no, Jimmy. Yesterday, I saw there was a moment it was actually when you told me it was when I wasn't necessarily buying it. But you said, I just needed to take a piece and we'll go do it. Just go talk to Jimmy. Do you remember you saying that? Yeah. Which is sort of a fucked up. Like why couldn't understand? Literally, there's like toilets. And then there's another office next door to us.

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You don't want to be a pest. But then so

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I went into Jimmy, Jimmy, he's got his headphones in. I just sort of walk in as if he's invited like it, am I man. I didn't really have anything to say it was almost like I felt like you teed up this thing. And then he should have met me with some sort of interest as

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well. Can I say I think I was just referring to you. Go and say hi to him. That bro. Just say hello. Not delve into political conversation.

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then before you know it. I think in that moment, either. This is the other thing that somehow ends up happening is I tend to get I mean, it's only been a few days here in the office, the office that we have together. And I've already had a couple of packages. Yeah. And somehow they've been quite big in size. And they've started conversation from the standing desk to the new microphone, their audio mixer, you know,

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the thing about receiving packages is the fucking packaging. Yeah, he's the most annoying pants a big bomb cardboard recyclable. But it's cold beans. We don't we have a lack of them. Now apartment block doesn't have enough bins for the amount of like recycling.

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Where do we put stuff

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in? We've got very limited bins, and we've got a few key square metres now of cardboard that we need. Was that something? Yeah, it is. You want you don't want people to have more rubbish because I think more bins encourage more rubbish. Yeah. I remember in New York women were there. Seeing there was a big sign was like boxes, like crush your boxes before you put them in? Because they have like garbage running out of the apartment block. But that is a place that you see the garbage. It's so notable because there were so many people and everyone's getting Amazon delivery. Yeah, there's so there's boxes everywhere.

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Yeah, there's boxes flying in everywhere. There was even like, our old place in Abbotsford. Where brain I lived there. The bin room was just disgusting. Just like because people were using. Like, they were thinking that the whole room was like the bin. Yeah, rather than the beans go in the bin room. Yeah, they're just like, Oh, well, I've got hard rubbish. And when we're leaving, we asked where we put the hard rubbish and they said just put it in the bin room. Yeah, so no one that like that was a system. So you just end up with manky old the most you know the most disgusting type of hard rubbish. Tommy If you you know what are these guests? What's one thing on the side of the road whenever you say it's like that's a bit filthy fridge old mattress?

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Don't you think? What are they? Because what like no one is ever going to take an old mattress. Are they even homeless? Dude, you'd be surprised what if you put it out? How quickly all get taken just crappy old things especially baby stuff. Like we're not putting but even if you put out like a dirty kind of chair or something. People will come past and grab it. Yeah, I've been thinking a lot more about taking stuff and selling stuff like on the TV

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flipping shit really I got

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to know i mean i he's a thing. We don't live in an affluent suburb now St Kilda is St. Louis or I mean I we lived in Bondi Okay, which is like super expensive and really lovely places. There was stuff getting hard rubbish getting put out everywhere. And so we get in a system of taking stuff and putting it on the bond are the eastern suburbs which is a very like posh areas into look for clues and 20 million sorry vol clues for clues. Sorry, which is a suburb in the eastern suburbs. All clues will close. Unbelievable. Looking at over the harbour crazy you could drop 15 million bucks. I'm on I

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couldn't lose. You definitely could. What a

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nine volt clues. It's amazing neighbourhood anybody. I you

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see l U. S A. Yeah,

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the clue Vaucluse clues. So you know what? It's so funny. You questioning how I'm saying it? questioning myself whether that is right. But I'd never thought about I just read the signs for clues. And if you actually see the border of it, like where it borders if you looking on Google Maps, tiny so it sort of looks a little bit like Tasmania. I Well, it's all Healy. So that's all just like heaps of sort of really steep hill steep streets such a six hour but that's the eastern suburbs. And so the eastern suburbs people have a lot of money and the stuff gets thrown out is awesome.

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So what would you get 2015 iMac it's

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nothing like that. But awesome. Like vintage vintage like fucking we call it furniture for your house and it sells really well so we got we got on in a frenzy of looking for stuff that would sell really well those bedside tables and gone and so it was this free listing thing on Facebook we would we would be putting so much money directly made a couple hundred bucks which was just extra extra money which was great. And it's all cash sorry tax man. We got no record of it. So

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this podcast will be sort of still kind of an index this thing would be a to it I could do transcriptions for us.

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Yeah, well it was good and so I wouldn't if you live in the eastern suburbs, it is more handy

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then the rice it's great but I think with all of this stuff it's like with Gary Vee I think that if especially if you've if you've got a job that can pay well the you should always just default to doing the job that you do and get paid well definitely doubling down on that rather than all of a sudden like cuz I get that you can look at anything I could be like, man you know like if I work night shift delivering furniture it's actually really good money yet. It's a hard sell to the like, Okay, well I'm just going to do that on the side.

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So if you don't know who Gary Vee is a guy who owns a $300 million agency Gary van der Chuck yeah he's been doing this thing he's like big on encouraging people to go garbage no no no garbage. Now what does he call it trash? trash talking that's his new series where he goes garage shopping

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to shopping for garage garage sale garage

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sale sorry garage sale shopping to find stuff that he can then flip on eBay there's a few things that's wrong with it. I love these message of people who aren't doing shit and don't have a job well there's always money to be made whoo to be actively chasing the money that could be made from you know the stuff that's getting sold but there's also a fact that he's doing the bit that the fun bit which is the driving around I'm sure you and I would have heaps of fun

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I have a fucking Apple watch that I'm not where I could literally do that with my like the shit that I already have. That's the problem it may be able to sell their own sheet that was buying other and selling but maybe people don't have shit but I've got so I'm horrendous when it comes to I had a big thing of just buying Saturday's New York t shirts and stuff like that and then I went on fucking minimal but I've still got all of that Shin in a bag at the moment should we should we do it and I guarantee

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you never have to do again. So in bond I they'd actually all the guarantee sales from a partner blocks. It is like people that go to the front and just have it on the Niger strip out the front. Could you

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breed it that way she went to what's the one in the Hawthorne? The big the she did the Campbell Well, my suburb

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near? Near Okay. Well,

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the Hawthorne. This is Fort Campbell while giving us this ever makes it

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Yeah. Nikki I love that. You're the because it's got a real brand about it. The Campbell Elma Yeah, but you remembered it via the suburb next

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to it because I drove Bry there I've got no idea nice. You know, I don't know shit. Anyway, the that's big Sunday might also just pushing on price people putting up I just couldn't. I don't think I would sell anything. Yeah.

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So here's the thing. James is telling me about how he's conspiracy. Jimmy

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Yes, it can we call him that conspiracy. Jimmy's pretty funny.

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He was telling me about how his wife sold this thing. And it was on eBay. And oh, no, no, sorry. She sold a bunch of clothes. And his point was how much you make. It was a couple hundred bucks. And it's like, for the time that goes in. And the money that you get back is where he saw the problem.

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Yeah,

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it's like, whoa. So like, if you break down your hourly rate, also,

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like you bought that last week for 500. If you sell it for 200, make 300 you lost 300.

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So there's So Gary V's message of going to garage sales. And biassing it is I like it. But he's a dude whose hourly rate is probably 10 grand. Yeah. And so he's doing it for shits and giggles. And you can make fun, but maybe you can get too cynical about this stuff. Like, everything is important. If you enjoy it on the outside of your own job. It can be not everyone has a job that actually love or,

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you know, I think that aside, everyone's talking about side hustle,

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which I think is so few that I've thought about it. Maybe I mean, I could do it sell a few things on the weekend or whatever. Actually something for her and I and they enjoy like so for Jimmy's wife. It's probably Joy's the hustle. But there's something enjoyable. Even if you're not getting your full alley, right?

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You feel Gary Vee right? I do. Like there was something interesting about because with the businesses, you know, that we've been in and with our business now it's like, we invoice the money hits our account. There is something cool about cashews where it's like when I sold Yeah, that big, sound big. And those two guys came to my place and I sold it for 550. And they came in with 500. And then they said oh, sorry, like we've only got 500. I said, Oh, that's okay, you don't need it. I knew that driven an hour and now I can reach me. So I said oh, that's okay. You don't need to buy it. And I said walking off and then he pulls out the other 15 Yeah.

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I think you enjoy the guy.

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I was nearly about to say you know what, just remaining a little bit.

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I nearly did that. It's a bet that's a power play.

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Well, you know what an office I hope I can change my mind said no. That's what sheets me about this stuff is that they that they go hard on so he didn't had no questions. I'm like, you know what I said? Yeah, I'm happy to sell it today. Yes, I can. Did you say because you're so easy. Yeah. He arrives there. He says now is it gonna carry case? I'm sorry. Oh, I didn't say it has a carry case. He starts asking all these questions. And then he wants to, which makes sense. But even better at the time. He's like, beforehand, he's like, Can we test this mixer out? So I met like in the foyer of my apartment block, finding a fuckin communal PowerPoint to plug in my sound mixer and to show that it turned on Is it fair that he wants to

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know if it turns on Yeah, I went to I went to a front door of a really nice house and the nanny answer the door and she was selling for the owner the like, the automatic rocker for the baby whacking internal button on it just like rocks the baby back and forth. Perfect. And she's like I said does it worse? Not sure. And I went and turned it on. And like fiddle around with it. And it didn't didn't fucking work.

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So there will be

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some people I think, do that shit. Yeah, we're going to be vigilant. So you have to test this stuff before try before you buy

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your own someone whose car was completely broken, but it wasn't something you had to drive long kilometres before it completely broke down. So they did like a trading offer got a great price for their car and got a new one. Yeah, they fucking the car sales people or they fighting the next person who buys a second hand car.

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Well, is that ethical? It's hot. Yes. Totally. Not on. I don't know. I think any person who actually does that shit. You've got your you got a bit going on? Yeah, it's bit wrong. fucking wrong.

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Oh, I mean, you were talking about what was it? We're thinking about getting in a con and maybe you joked about the the landlord like as we do we pay for power?

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Yes, at this place.

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So you have any the meeting about?

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What the outgoings at? What do we pay a month for? power?

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It's pretty cheap idea. 90 bucks. Oh, that's good, man.

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Do we have to pay water or anything? No,

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I've lived it plenty apartment blocks where they didn't factor the splitting of water in the build of the building since like 30 years ago. So there was only the landlord has to pay the bill, the bill. So a bunch of apartments I've never paid water. There was one

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I wonder if you get caught caught out eventually. Well, the patient Sharon where our lives. And yet we had gas never paid a gas bill. But this is the thing I had the case in my old office where we got a bill for. We had the office for two years, I didn't even i'd transition to our business in this office. But we got a bill for eight and a half thousand dollars because the landlord had had forgotten to send us any outgoing. So we hadn't. I thought we'd been paying for everything. I'm a little bit like I don't know the details or whatever. But it's like, I also don't like I care about the details. But then once they going I just

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I mean, I don't know the law about someone say I'm out of the premises. And I haven't paid that gas bill. There was no gas bill that came to us. So if they get you that one of the follow do i mean no. Follow that up? Yeah. Maybe it was the similar situation. He just he just pays some fee. Yes, he This is weird. Here's another thing I forgot to tell you this. Amy Mr. Flies coming home from Sydney on Monday your rifle pistol cuz she didn't explain she didn't communicate the storey very well to you lost your mind. I'm triggered because I think about how much you know when you love someone, and they fuck up and the what it will feel like for them is transferred to you or you take their feelings on as well. And so I do that with me with anything. Because I'm dying. She's with Bodie. It's like the money we're gonna have to high and I'm feeling and she laid with I've missed my flight. I'm thinking our Fucking hell. How much is this gonna cost? She forgot to say that booked me on another one. And I'm coming on the two o'clock one,

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which was but that was it. You didn't just say there was a slight blow up for a couple of seconds. And then you then you had to be like, Oh, well, like, that's good. Then you relax and you like okay, well, that's the sort of lead with that.

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Yeah, and the reason when brings up because I haven't followed it up and I it's taking a beating me to stop stop myself from doing it. First thing I said was give me the fucking number of the transport business. Yeah.

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Well, because she was getting a transfer. Uh, yeah. And so she'd asked the transfer company, what time do I need to leave? I think

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they are. So What time's your flight? Yep, no problem. One o'clock yet. We'll pick you up at 11 will get you there. And so it was on them asking her the time of when the transmission happened. Are you ready to service you're ready to contact the train directing the transfer people on a side note would be able to cover that sort of thing as well. So it was $160 transfer. That's how much it costs for the show because she used an hour and she's about an hour and 15 minutes away from the airport. And Uber was 145 but you have a didn't have a baby safe and she had body so the transfer just a bit extra but more than flights to from Mike. The last time we're doing that. That's another buddy storey. Yeah, but I was the only reason why I haven't is because I haven't contacted the this transparent said, bullshit. Give me money. My money back you made? Yeah. Your service made me miss your flight. Yeah. Is because we didn't have to pay and I put it onto another flight. But what if you if you did yeah. If free? Mr. Fly? Yeah, the same situation? would you would you miss email this company and say, last time we're ever going with you. We want to I think Bry would be all over that. And

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yeah, we had we had something probably similar in some regards, was we paid for this whole tour in Pompeii. And then there was a storm. So they just didn't go to one of the bits of like the whole tour.

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10% minimum. Yeah, so it off.

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Yeah. And so then we're like, Well, can we get that beat it off. And so they end up giving you like the entry fee of what we paid, which was like a real minimal amount.

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But one of my thought processes which I shut down was the Yes, it's extortion. We want to refund Willie leaving a really bad review about which is the guy to shut down. I mean, what I was thinking about businesses, and owning one and if people actually do this, like people doing this to us, would be really you know, yeah,

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luckily that were be to be Joe was we've got my brother Jake here. I was referencing the guitar. He's got a guitar, I'd suggested to Jake that I'd finished the show, playing him playing a song and may things me, but we didn't actually, he didn't rehearse at all. So we can give it a go. But Jake's just getting getting the guitar, but I think the difference is is beta be I think it'd be a lot more sort of a bit weirder. Yeah. If it was a business writing something negative about us, right, yeah. happen. How often do businesses? When would big media company write about a another company and say, I'm not happy?

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Yeah, it would seem funny, I think, yeah, the the cokes come out when it's business to consumer consumer business. And so yeah, people are just

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so it's also true. So talking about the the cokes coming out. So, we'd mentioned on the episode with Josh Pittman that what ended my music career with my brother Jake, we had a valued drummer for the band was called no I don't but the fact you know

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good was at the rage. Batman Jake in the Batman was the name

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and so now we I remember having a big blow up because I think I wanted to do Missy Higgins ska. And I don't think maybe Jake wasn't a fan of playing it. What was the reason Jake? I just didn't like it. I was Yeah, I think it was a bit edgy at the time so I didn't I just want to play edgy stuff is playing a lot of offspring and stuff like that one blink 182 no corn. But so TJ Can you put the microphone Jake's guitar This is going to end the show. It's a daily talk show. Hi the daily talk show.com if you want to send us an email, but we are going to perform the song that we've been wanting to perform for a very long time. This has been probably what to 15 years in the making. This is ska by Missy Higgins performed by one of her big fans Josh Janssen and his brother Jake it's Jake in the fat man. It's a daily talk show.

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Okay, guys, get your hands up in the air. Let's do it. The Daily talk show talking you out with this song. He left a card a bar of soap and a scrubbing brush

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next to Window use the

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town to your Come on. Come on Mason. And before I knew I had shiny skin and felt easy being clean like him I thought this one was better than I do. In other words a triangle trying to squeeze through as coal. He tried to cut me so i'd fit and doesn't that sound familiar? Yeah. That hits close to home. Doesn't it feel peculiar the way things could have gone? And then we thought yeah,

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I like the guitarist really doesn't get enough credit the man the person who actually makes the noise is the singer. The real person with the talent here. What about I remember most of the was impressive. Side note Missy Higgins recently met the Princess of Cambridge

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yeah and actually Derek on one now with Derek listen to that podcast. He's in the also people also listened to on our iTunes. But Derek actually is his co host is Dan Lee

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Eredivisie he does that is that excites you? Because

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you are Missy fan? Yeah it's a big deal. He's

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got a big concert cat she's she i think is with jump out of the tree over there doing my music ball. Lovely should go and sit on the grass.

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I love that next year. I probably get a beat he when he takes up the anti histamines who will make that work la talk show. Thanks for listening and our first copyrighted. I said to Jake, maybe we do a bit of a parody so it doesn't sort of infringe on this but the parody vibes with your tone in

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your voice. I have a good one.