#250 – Our Last Show Of 2018/

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Wait a minute, cross face.

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conversation, sometimes

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worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jacket.

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It's a daily talk show

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and we're celebrating Episode 250. I To be honest, I actually had a

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slight news kicking then thinking about that,

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well, you had a panic attack. This is the second time that we're pressing record. Because I decided to do something different. And rather than saying the normal, the daily Talk Show Episode 250 I said we're celebrating Episode 250. And then your response was an episode 200 show community my goal

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now is I was just speaking to my brother and I said, What are you doing? said just about to record Episode 250. And at that moment, 250 for the year, he knows what we do. Whether he listens or not, is another thing, but fuck, we've done it. 250 episodes in one year,

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December 31. Yeah, also known as New Year's Eve. Yeah, it's,

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it's funny. I've had as I said, One us off, getting wasted in in 15 years. And this feels like a real placid news. For me. It's really lovely. I like it.

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But do you get certain tingles like Okay, I'm ready for the big because it's like when I go to my parents place and I go to the wagon wheel I you've just like it's almost sitting that and yeah, it's been a Do you have the patent where it's like I better go to AWS.

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The question what are you doing for New Years is the question everyone asked each other. So I've had a few texts What are you doing what are you doing any sort of what sort of mites now just like Jimmy conspiracy Jimmy which were actually we're going to

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do Could you imagine him y2k young

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too young? I think you you you if you're a young person there's in conspiracies. It's quite amazing. You're actually beyond New Years. Because life hasn't fuckin Russa yet. Like, I think people later in life are just like, Doc on everything. Because Jimmy isn't this isn't the exception to the rule. But you could imagine a dude who's 50 just potentially an alcoholic? Yeah, just as

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me he's the outlier.

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A rough life?

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This is what would happen. Yeah. But Jimmy's different. You know, he is he definitely is. And so how is he feeling about you getting off the booze? Well, that's what he messaged me. He says, dude, are you drinking? Are you not drinking in 2018? It's really sorry. And it's been something I haven't I

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haven't said it yet.

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I haven't said you said on the podcast. You mentioned us. And I said, Yeah,

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I'm good. I'm thinking about doing it. It's one of those things. But the more I think about it, the more I going to. Yeah, I'm doing. Yeah,

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I don't think it shouldn't be shouldn't be that hard. Yeah.

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But

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so that's the thing, right? I think there'll be a lot of people that would say, just could do it. But when you start to go, the wedding's you got coming up the things you're doing. I'm not an alcoholic. Yeah.

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Do you think part of it because the thing that I only realized recently was people do it. As social lubricant I didn't like it didn't actually occur to me that there was even a thing that are the reason why everyone wants to drink is because they're not comfortable yet. Hundred percent. And I think if you've

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said there's a bunch of things, if you rely on it socially, you can rely on it to have six, which a lot of people have had majority of their sexual experiences on our call.

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It can be an issue. Yeah, it's interesting. And so

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and that's why it's all personal. Just look at your own life. And I think so at the end of each year, Amy and I sit down we can we write out what we've achieved. What are some great things? And then what we want to achieve? When did you start doing this? Oh, 2016. So 16 and then into 1717. So I had

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two years of it. Now maybe three?

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We've been together for nearly five years now. Such a long time. It's crazy.

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Crazy gone so quickly.

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We're celebrating to 50 that's a milestone. It's huge. Yesterday, what were you celebrating

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11 years living the thing with Bray? Yeah. 11 year anniversary. But I've been saying that we've been together for 11 years, since probably June. Since brain. I've been away on our trip. I say I've been together for 11 years. So we had to think about it. We're like, has it been 12 years or 11 years? You're now you're like the old capital.

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You like my mom and dad, but it's 30 something years or 40 years of marriage. It's pretty crazy.

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And so how did you celebrate it last night? We had some Mexican so this is the thing. Like we different. Different it wasn't mixing campaign. I am Mary Warren, which is my favorite Mexican establishment. For people who don't know I actually managed. I managed their Facebook page on a volunteer basis back in probably 2000 and 9010. Two bouncing face that was 2011 I think was 2010. And they did pay me and Mexican. I went there one day and took photos. And every dish that they brought out we got two waves. And I took the photos I was it was

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who needs more than one big dish from me. It's one of those Mexican restaurants where the servings

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in general amazing the gronk we've had it we went to a Mexican place on chapel Street. It was delicious. I couldn't tell you what the name was. Yeah, but black beans we spoke about black beans. Black beans, so it's really good. So you have

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a happy that you got black?

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shredded beef. 11th year anniversary. Yeah, that's shredded base. For one of my new year's resolutions, it's not really on the podcast, more doubling down. No, I am a Robbie Ward from quad LA I got into you know, I'm going to talk about thinking about it. I'm talking about I want to get back to my interview goal stuff, you know, you can have your food, I'll entertain you with the food talk where we're definitely going to get to it know the slow fast cooker. I want that to be big thing.

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The hat so that we're doing it in their work. So get into work put on the thing, and then lunchtime. Yeah,

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the worry is that you buy these things, and then you usually go hard. And then you fall off. Because you can only get so much fucking Slocum before that's

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what I think that the because I was getting into Did you ever have my famous lamb?

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Did I have a quote for you? But dude, there were some days that it was literally the whole thing was that? Yeah, I saw you in the morning. And like, I'm just prepping this. I call you in the long I'm just I'm just now taking out with just on stage seven of the beef. This is the

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problem lamb. This is the this is the problem with working from home. I was watching a YouTube video this morning. And I was thinking the there was a guy who's like a web developer news short, sort of the ultimate flex really imagine if Manti Vela wasn't a minimalist, and really loved luxury goods. And this is what this guy made. So all of this. Yeah, it's like really awesome content. But also it's like man, like he updated his iPhone constantly. He's got like, his favorite purchase was he's Apple Watch. He doesn't use any of the apps. He just uses it for the watch. It's an expensive screen on your not too dissimilar to the only extra thing I have is I still have the annoying notification to tell me that to stand up or to breathe. Which always happens when I'm fucking How does it know that I'm having a panic attack every time it tells me to break it should evaluate came down to him a lot. You guys need a thing on your own to tell you to breathe? Well, the funny thing is that I don't even realize how much the looking at the water is so confronting for people

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where it's confront. So we were constructing some shelving units for our office. And the amount of times that like you sort of assisting Can you hold that holding this like, if I can holding up an arm because we are constructing a four legged thing that's going to fall over if one of us takes a hand off? And you're just constantly lifting your armor. And it's only you're only doing it because you're getting told what to vibrate? Yes. Like by writing the same thing if I was like, I wonder if they banned for trade? He's like, yeah, if I had to apprentice on inside that was

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constantly Mr. 97. No Apple Watch. No, Apple doesn't have no iPhones. So

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no, no. product. No, Fitbit. No, definitely not even have a Fitbit. You

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know, but the I want to get into the Do Not Disturb. Yeah, like that. So. So you write down. So you started. Yes. It's probably your fourth year of doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

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To be honest. We fell off one year we kind of half assed you that

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but it's what was the first year like, because it's like, rainbows and sunshine. So it's all like,

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very optimistic. What's great is going 17 to sorry, say 15 to 16. Yeah. And then at the 16, the end of 16 into 17. You look back at what you set out for 16. And then you see if you've actually remember

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what you set out?

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No, I this was coming from like, leaving radio, to getting into making more videos. And then to study mine. Business. Yeah. So there was I actually have achieved a lot of those things. Yeah, the biggest takeaway is that the never high enough, you're not never setting the bar higher, because it's like, if you actually have achieved them all, it's like, well, maybe you've just set them low, because you know, you'll achieve them. It's like if you actually, if you maybe a good thing is rotted out and then go, Okay. What's the hacking you extrapolate from that to go even bigger? Yeah, on each one of those. So it could be a good thing to go. You lose it. Brian's telling you to fucking sit at low or whatever it is. Yeah. And then just double down. So it's like,

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you could almost have like those stretch goals. Yeah. where it's like, I'm going to do three that I technically shouldn't be able to do this year. But if I work really hard, I'll be able to do it. Yeah,

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or just go. Because I can convince myself that what I've written down is like, to my capacity, you know, I'm not putting those restrictions. Yeah, but if you were to just go okay, right, whatever it is, don't judge it. But then run it again. judging it based on let's go back in. Yeah. Hi. Yeah. And so yeah,

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we're gonna do that. I mean, I gotta do that. This evening. We can do what do you write it in? Just some books. We've got some crappy books, because I've worked out what I'd been doing. See my let's say, my watch just vibrated. I gotta get a message. So you get rid of that. That's paid a shepherd. So sounds perfect, mate. usual time? 630. Or should should we trade ourselves to 7am? That is one of my 2910 goals there. The Walking book club. Yeah. Only member so far as Peter shepherd, and he's like, he's already first first week back. I may. Now we say 630. Which we train ourselves to seven.

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My mission you go hard or go hard. 2019. The 5am club?

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Exactly. Because of that, we're moving the book club fucking earlier. Yeah,

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fuck the 5am Club. Double Down. But

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this is the other problem with the Apple Watch. Yeah, he's I completely lose much. I know. I've got it. So you're saying I'm writing stuff and writing stuff? Yeah. So I actually remember specifically, mustn't have been last year, but the year prior, because I'm brain I were in Wi Fi last year. And the only reason by the way I knew there was our anniversary is because Bry worked it out through Facebook memories flashing, this is perfect. I've deleted Facebook complete. Like it's actually I downloaded Yeah, I downloaded all of my content to geek it took like it

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hasn't actually give it to in a zip. And then you can either show it is legit photos. Like Yeah,

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you can do it either as HTML or JSON. And JSON is like a more sort of complex language, the HTML one, it's got, like all the file structure, like the folder structure, and you can click through, you can say all of the photos, all of your status updates. That's great. And so I just I think I must have made Bry an admin of either you're an admin or brazen admin of all of my old accounts, which looking like what the fuck would you make, but likes a big media company? You and I are both an admin of it. So I could get out of it. And it wasn't going to shut it down. Oh, yeah. Okay. And so it's the same with I think, with Josh Janssen. youtube.com, sorry, facebook.com forward slash Josh Janssen. I like I still want the name. And that is my sort of public profile, which I've never done it. I've never had an audience big enough to fucking justify doing anything with it. But I think brain must have that bit anyway. So last year, we were in wi can't remember what I did in regards to the resolution stuff. The before I remember, I had a field notes book. And I wrote the site pretty big list around sure was like, same shit every you read more? Drink more water. Meditate daily. Just hold the shit, right? Yeah. Walk for at least an hour a day. But the problem is, is that there's a couple of problems. The main one is that I find that I put write it down. And then I close that book, I fuckin lose the book. And I'm like, Ah, it's like a year later. I'm like, I remember this book. Let's say and I look back, I'm like, Fuck, I didn't do any of them.

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She's saying you need Yeah, so we've used. So what we did was one year, wrote in one ripped out the pages. The next he had another book. So we've put them into this book. Yeah. So both me and our I have a book that we use. And so you can Yeah, it's like the one place it's like building. We're trying to build a habit. But that habit is only sort of once, twice a year, or should I end? Is there value then in putting it somewhere where you can say every day? Yeah, I get Yeah, that is a good thing. So you can maybe it's a calendar reminder,

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I recommend the book. I got a calendar, I'm on it. And I said the thing is that, that requires an extra step. I feel like you want it in your face. You want it at a point where it's like, it's everywhere. So it's like I could imagine putting it at my desk. or putting it in like in the back on the bathroom mirror? Or Bry would not allow that by the way. Absolutely. No, I'm like blue jackets find it not? Like what about one of those white but now? She's

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she specifically? brave. It was a blend of you, mom. Yeah, exactly.

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The same breeze very popular. You want to dial your style, and just like anything that's permanent. Like, I don't know what's gonna I have a feeling that braces like when we're in rental properties. We can't put anything on the walls because of the lease. I can guarantee you when we buy an apartment, there's gonna be a new excuse about walls. Yeah, well, it has was quite stylish. Yeah.

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So it's all 200%. So

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what is the where could you put it? Yeah,

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I think Yeah.

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You desk too personal? Because this is the problem. I was doing this. At all. I was doing a gratitude journal. There was in the same book is where I took notes for work. Yeah. And so I have a client meeting, I put my thing it's I always I can, yeah, I'm grateful for writing. So

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I think the the reoccurring one step of creating a calendar reminder, and then creating a ritual of doing it once a week opening up. So I am I've said we can do more of the date nights on the Barefoot date nights.

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Could you put a number to it? Because I feel like the do more. That's where the other sort of the second part? Is there. The the sort of a things that are hard to measure. So it's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to I want to drink more water. Whereas if you say, like, I am going to fill up this bottle three times a day, and you have to drink that, then you know that you're actually keeping that money.

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Here's the reality, all these things we set out. And the one thing that was stuck, there was this podcast. Yeah.

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What do you recommend? Why?

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Trying to work in it? So there's a few things it's having someone else

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said is the accountability, but other people as well. So I'm pretty relentless. I think they were both the the proper amount of relentless. I think that early on, it was a good point, my work where I think that you would agree that I go hard on things. Yeah. And I think, a very obsessive and probably the benefit was that I was able to sustain the obsession, to an amount that then ticked you over to being committed. It's,

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I think, it's like if you had a business and you start making a bit of money, and then you start seeing the possibility of that money growing and growing, right. And so maybe your obsession and my sort of, okay, and it's like, I never thought I'd have a podcast. I actually, I wasn't really not a radio person. Yeah. I've never been out about writing. I get you know, like it was kids. Love it. Yeah. You would have been the medium. You wouldn't having a radio in your bedroom. No, but I think for me, I'm still not a podcast guy. Yeah, I love what this does for you and I. And so you could then go well, then you are technically the podcast guy. But it's like no, I the things around it. Yeah, I'm more obsessed with the video medium in terms of like, my, my genuine interest for it. But you could then you could then say, Well, why haven't you made 250 videos for the does it I you not more into the thing that you do more? Which could be a good case to go? Technically, is it just pushing back against it? So

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the formula?

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See, I think there's one side of like, my, I was very, I was very encouraged by your thoughts around. I haven't seen Daily Show happen. Yeah, I'm sort of convinced. And so I was like, excited by your sort of understanding of what was

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happening. I think the domain name as well. Yeah, I recognize.

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It is great. Yeah. But I love I've loved your sort of excitement around it. And then keep doing it. And instead of gamified I'm not we're not fucking missing it. You know, the one time as you pointed out, Episode,

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what is it for four or five? You were sick?

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I was so sick. It was

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a per episode. Yeah,

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I was so I was more sick. On episode hundred and bloody 30. Were on the show. I ran to the bathroom speed and you actually left it in there. Yeah, you can hear it.

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And then I came back in finished shaving. So I remember because I was editing and I turned up the volume. Embrace it. No. It's enough. You can hear it enough. You don't need to turn it up. Because when I turned it up, you could really hit like it's like

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the room turn just go up. Here

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you come back. I think it's like shit. So yeah, I was willing on the fourth to say let's use some pre record Yeah, but not further down the track because you go not with done well.

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I Ford seller sold it where I remember brothers at Woodward in Abbotsford and I did a little bit on the iPhone where I said Tommy sick today. And so he's got this audio from a video he did with Craig Harper these 15 don't give a fuck so whatever. What's What is it? 12 rules for 12 fucking rules for six. Yeah, that's it. One of them has a fucking that that's why he says that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, like cutthroat. But imagine

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if you didn't, like oh, we'll just miss that one.

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broke off. That's the thing. That's why I don't think it's the formula is find someone else. Yeah. Because it's could find someone else and it still won't work

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was finding someone else can also be the excuse that Dave L is a fucking great example of completely, you know, he, he used his skills to be able to add value to Josh and Ryan at the minimalists and collaborated on something. But he's also built his own thing, which is true chin and doing really well. I just said it's really taking taking off.

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Shout out to conspiracy genius.

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And so I think that maybe the formula is around joining these this chain. So for instance, right? Here, we got the Seth Godin book. Yes.

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I'm still writing.

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Okay, how far How much have you got to go? I've still got

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100 pages to go. Okay, that's a fair bit. It's still a lot to go.

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But as we work, that is a big Feat. But we're still

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it's still on? Well, you know, that has it. So the problem is, this has been my problem. Use I sit out initially on like the fifth or 10th of December, whenever I should, I was going to do it. I extrapolated over the month and said, Okay, I just need to spend two hours. And then before you know, it's like, okay, like two hours a day. Yeah. And then it was like, Oh, okay. Maybe I'll work better if I just do 10 hours in one day. It's literally my studio arts. But I haven't done this much at all. And so why was that? Why am I still because that's 100% going down and the guilt, the guilt I had, because I was like I said to set that out. I was doing it on the 31st. But the thing was, it was a creative deadline, because I knew in the back of my head trip along said in the 500 bucks as long as it's done by January, January 31. Yeah,

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that's what I thought. And yeah, I haven't handed you about it.

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Because I still got another month. Yeah.

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Because I knew that day like Trevor's gonna donate 500 bucks and charity. And I know you can do in the next month. And so the logic of so the the theory that you came up with was two hours a day, which you would have worked. Yeah. Which I think is like, for someone who wants to do anything if you actually do if you want to be a better if you want to be a video person. legit if you actually just blocked out one hour a day to learn. Yeah, you're so good in a month. It's It's such easy. Yeah,

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it's so it sounds so simple. Like when you break it down. Yeah, if you write wrote a page, every single day, yeah, for the next year, you'd have 365 pages, you'd have an entire book. Yeah.

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And if you actually took that advice, because this podcast, it's the easiest piece of advice. And that's actually the hardest piece of advice, because it's hard in the repetition. And because each day you feel differently. Yeah, we're not just these beings that are super steady, constantly at the same time of each day. Except for your poor routine. It's

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pretty regular. In the morning, then shower.

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Yes, very conservative. I actually haven't met someone that's as consistent as you really yeah. Yeah,

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he's pretty consistent. I could imagine who would who would have these little

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already said, Yeah,

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he's another radio. So you to you both.

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regular guy. Yeah. And so yeah,

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this, this has been true, breezy, and super hot. So the,

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it's not using motivation. So it got to a point where I was a non negotiable that was just going to happen, because it's not even like, we have done it at the same time every day. No, like we have done it that we're doing this now at 11am. Yeah. But sometimes we've done them at 9:30pm. We've done them with I've gotten it out just before midnight. Yeah.

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So there's so it's we've just restricted the 24 hour.

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game. Yeah, you cannot take Jaime's Blake's Episode Episode. 100. Yeah. Biggest episode. I mean, that's right. Yeah, we got literally 11:50am.

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And he was he came he came over at like 10. No.

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drove to your place. And

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we did the episode of sick. Yeah,

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but it was a game. I was like, I can't go until this. It's It's cool. And so you are massively rewarding. Whatever you do if you show up constantly, but this evening saying that sounds like

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a show. But it also sounds so grandiose. I think that's like when we started doing the podcast. Can you go to Instagram and just go to the very first photo? Yeah, I just I fucking love. Yeah, the best thing about this episode. What? What are these for me? What is it? Mr. Alger? It feels I know. It's only been a year. But I feel like I'm already like, thinking about how long I remember after doing a the first few episodes would go to Dr. Morse in Abbotsford and would get a coffee. Yeah, which is a place just around the corner where I used we used to live on Turner Street. So the first photo I think he's like me in a red t shirt. Now that's, that's this is the upside down from

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assets, literally just a screenshot of the apple podcast app with Episode Two on there. And it says Yo, Josh here, Tommy and I are doing a podcast

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hashtag the

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daily talk show a new episode, every weekday, around 30 minutes available on iTunes and at our website.

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So it's very bad. It's what

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was it? That dies? Is it January 15 1717? January 16, I think was our first so January 16. is going to be our

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one year anniversary of the show.

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You know what looking back, just

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look at that. Yeah,

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you look so young. Yeah. I like is a photo of Tommy on a couch, you've got like a your,

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your house. Yeah. And what it actually I actually think about how that felt. Yeah.

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And thinking about equipment you use. It's just different. It's just more comfortable. Now is all I think about those times

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really uncomfortable. You had to USB microphone, using the anointing in the setting. I was using a big Atlas to to put the mic on top. So

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David enough. It felt it felt sort of Mama, it felt Paavo and it

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felt just unknown doing that then. And so yeah, looking back at it is nice looking back and thinking about those early days. It makes it makes me cringe and makes me happy.

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I think the the so the other interesting thing is with that we did 20 episodes before we so I set up the daily talk show Instagram account, but I didn't tell anyone about the podcast until we'd hit Episode 20. So it wasn't till February that we said hi everyone we're doing. And I said to you today

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that if you're listening live on a podcast, I'll just say to say to you if you have ever wanted to do a podcast, and you think I've got an idea for it, if someone said to you, in the first year of doing your podcast, you'll have 100,000 downloads. Which to me if you said that to me the sound of the holy factor. All do that. Yeah. And if they said you have to do it five days a week. I get fucked. Yeah, because that's too much work. But that's what that's what we're going to have over 100,000 downloads in the very first year of doing this. Yeah, it's awesome. So if, but yeah, it's it's so Why can't anyone else have that is in every reason why they could do I know

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they were hired to as I go into self reflection as why can I have this in other areas of my life? Yeah. And so if we can actually take that process and apply it to different things like us going to the gym? Yeah, I think that it's being as serious. I think with the podcast, I was super serious. I think that that was part of it. Yeah,

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it's like I mean, I hated how you wore a suit for the first 20 and

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it was hot it was summer isn't it? Yeah,

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you fucking business Tommy but

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I so I think that that's the part of it too, is it's a

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it's also when you tell there's a great TED talk around when you tell people about your resolution. It basically lets off the same chemicals in your brain as he did it.

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It's like people chasing cocaine they getting the release of dopamine in the brain actually chase it like it's called a deal. Like there's been studies the similar thing I thought you met my just

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thinking about getting the Coke is like taking the

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bat and getting

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started find some coke not actually taken on rushing.

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I've got I've got a head rush now. No, but it's

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the same thing. Right? It's like telling someone you know the bat, how you gonna start training? Yeah, really well, right. So this is the routine split routine back legs, shoulders.

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He's one thing if you have spoken in 2018 about social media, and it's negative impact on you. Shut the fucking things down. And don't tell anyone. Yeah.

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I so I made I've been thinking a lot about public promises. Yeah. And I made a public promise at the at the start of this year.

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About

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so my thinking was I was I want to make 100 videos and post them to my YouTube channel within 2018. Yeah, ever done that know. How many have I done more than last year? Yeah.

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It's funny is that when you look at it, like Yeah,

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I did more than just more than last year. And am I okay with that? Yeah. But I what I've learned is that those public promises, you do them because you think it's going to give you accountability. But I've felt that it's not the thing that actually gives you accountability. Yeah. Imagine how many videos and YouTube there is of people making promises. This is what I'm going to do for my channel. Hey

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guys, I'm back. That's like the fucking comment. I guys. Sorry. I took a break on YouTube.

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Casey nice that I'm going to there's going to be a video every single day. And I'm fucking pump my adrenaline's going.

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He's back.

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But it's it almost

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gets you excited. It's, it's, it's the it's the playing in the motivation. It's buying in the reliance on the motivation, because you

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may creating that video and say I'm going to do this actually gave me motivation for about a month. It's instant gratification. Yeah, an instant gratification, fuels, motivation, but motivation is temporary. And so the most if you I've learned that if I listen, if I watch something online, and I get motivated, or get excited, I discredit it. For the most part, if I have a conversation with someone and I get motivated.

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I'm like, it's like red flags going. Yeah,

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it's not regular red flags, but it's almost like that meditation thing. It's like the car, you know, seeing a bunch of cars driving past and you know, do you enter it? And for me, it will cross it. Yeah.

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dangerous.

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It's very dangerous. There's a lot of cars, but the that idea of okay. I've realized I'm getting excited. But that isn't the like, it's only going to be good. If and then putting some sort of stretch goal and saying, Okay, well, I can't actually get excited about this actual unless I've done at least 50 episodes. Talking. There's two parts of it. I think it's thinking short term, buyers, small chunks, bite sized pieces that you can do regularly. For me, I think I can daily anything is very like is the best approach for me. Because there's also a bunch if you look online around the power of crossing things off, right, so having a calendar, it's like the I remember watching the show on MTV called made where it was like I want to be a cheer later in over summer. And so they will basically have cheerleading trainers so that by the end of it, they'll be a cheerleader, or it's like I'm morbidly obese and they fucking loot they get so trim. And the awesome thing is they put up these all the numbers in the days and every single time you've done they've done it they tear off one of the numbers you will remember Dan to boof couple of weeks ago last week was talking about how the beginning of the show we said our it you know Episode 240 whatever it was, and just think like that count. That number for me has been a huge motivating factor. Yeah, yeah,

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I think definitely the promises thing and that's why I'm apprehensive when you say you get a drink next year. It's like I'm more apprehensive to say it not because I don't think I'll do it yeah, but how I don't think like I could imagine if I own it yeah next year documentary about

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my view without ACA Why haven't

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done it? Yeah, I reckon be why Haha, doing it that way. I think that's for me. It's Yeah, it's what overcomplicate You know what? The best thing that's happened to me about this writing this Seth book is it has made me appreciate reading because it takes me I was timing it yesterday when I was like on my iPhone. Takes me like 10 minutes to write a single page yeah 10 fucking minutes. I before that, I was like reading what are you doing with your hand I was that I

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had a little crumb in my finger

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tip you sort of doing like a money Money, Money Money.

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Cash play a little bit

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of time, or 10 minutes or money. Money Money sticky? Could be anyway so the

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title I all of a sudden started to appreciate reading so much more thriving writing. It's like when I did fucking you do a diet and all of a sudden all fruit feels a bit naughty all geez that nectarine tastes good and all that like you've recalibrated. So you over correct and then re calibrate and you do it like say for? I was reading cadence book by a guy named Pete Williams, who? I followed on Twitter for a long time. He's got print printer marketing does like he he was a guy who sold basically he got something I think it was in the bricks or the ward or something from the old mcg stands. Oh, yeah.

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And he was it could have been the wood from the seat. Yeah,

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wood from the set. Yes, that's

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what was. I've seen that shit. And

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he would turn it into a memorabilia thing and sell it for 500 bucks. He did it. He's headline was on your piece of the MCG is great. And he was young dude. And he sold tapes. Anyway, he's got a book called cadence Melvin dude, Melbourne. And he's been on small business big man marketing team by writing by Ray, it's podcast bit. In his book cadence he was taught, which I really recommend it's very sort of practical, quick raid, they'll talking about if you want to get to doing like a fast marathon. Or if you want to say if you're doing a triathlon, there's a certain amount of kilometers you have to do. And what he was saying was, they basically use this metaphor throughout the whole thing of a guy who's getting ready for an Iron Man. And the guy was getting frustrated. He's like, are, I'm still only doing tank. Why if you only prescribed me to do 10 kilometers, right now, he's like, well, you need to get down to, you know, six minute, like five minutes, 30 seconds, or whatever it is. Don't fucking remember the numbers per kilometer, to be able to reach this goal. If you're not doing the 10 kilometers under an hour, then you're not ready to go up. So the point being is it's like, if you want to do if your goal is like a marathon? What is that first step? Like if you want to make it's not the marathon? Yeah, if you want to make a million dollars, you need to first and he talks about in the book, you first need to make $100. And then you need to make $1,000. And you need to be able to make 10,000 100,000 how many people fucking think about the million dollars that they're going to make? And they get to make the hundred thousand dollars? Yeah,

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it's great.

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I think it feels a bit like you've hacked it when you actually can work out the consistency whether the success on the other side is what you think it will be ease and other thing. But it does feel a bit like we've hacked it. Yeah, we've actually got the thing of like showing up each day. And it hasn't felt that hard.

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No. It's only felt hard in moments. Yeah, they're always temporary. Yeah. I think definitely doing it together as helped. Yeah, that definitely has been the other thing. So one of my thing, my theme for 2019. You go the word? Yeah. Sort of like a word theme. So what I'm doing is doing a word. Really? Yeah. What's his word?

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persistence.

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That's good. That's good. So yeah, Jason Fox who have had on the show, he talks about the word. He's really great words, for he, but mine is around the theme of so the word is intentional. The the longer version of that the theme is intentional consumption. And so, intentional consumption, what does that come down to that comes down to the intentionality and what I ate intentionality in what I consume in regards to what apps do I have on my phone? What am I clicking on to? Where am I spending my time when I'm on the computer? I've noticed that even though I've gotten off all my social media accounts, I still managed to be clocking up hours every day, on the iPhone you refilling was frayed up. Yeah, something, something else. Another voice. Exactly. And so that's the other big thing. If you're trying to get rid of a habit. Having that replacement. habit is super important. The opposite is also true. Because you show you could look at

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it's something that was talking about the alcohol thing. Yeah, for me, and then the social media thing for you. Or even when I've said Oh, but maybe I could just do a few of the social medias. It's like, if you edging on not doing them, and then actually just getting rid of it all together?

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Well, I think that is probably for you with the alcohol thing. I think the thing that would help potentially saying, I'm replacing this year, I'm replacing all alcohol with sparkling water or soda water. And that gives you a mechanism that gives you a mechanism every single time where you can say, I need to get I feel like alcohol or I'm in a situation where I want alcohol. I'm going to have this fizzy water. Yeah. And then we start to build that in as the thing that replaces that. And then you're in social settings. And it feels like you're almost having a be you get that you're actually getting some of those sort of residue of the experience that you having previously. Yeah,

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what I do like about because I said this to my brother,

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about 28 2019, no alcohol.

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He said, why did why do you need to put that on it? Why can't you just go I'm going to see how long I can do this for. And for me, it's like it feels the similar thing to replacing it. Because it because if I have a parameter on it, one month, one year, and so when people ask, Are you gonna drink? No, I'm actually doing 2019 no

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alcohol. I feel like it's something nice to say. Yeah,

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if someone I think we want a response to some people. So what's your response? If someone says, oh, why? What's the social media thing? Why, you know, I think that that's part of it. For me, it's been a journey in Renee Brown, from our paid a shepherd who have had on the show, and is part of my walking book club of one, it was talking about Bernie Brown, and she talks about being in the arena, and only taking feedback from people who are in the arena. And that she has this list of people in her wallet, that when she gets feedback, she checks the list. And if the persons on the list, if it's one of her close sort of associates or friends or family, she will take that on otherwise you'll disregard or not give it the impact. And so I think like for me, getting off social media, doing that whole alcohol thing, it is you are being the exception to the rule, you're doing something outside of you're going against the current. And so naturally, when you get to go against the current, there's a lot of sticks. There's a lot of there's a lot going on that's pushing you the other way. And so I think that's probably being okay, in not having to respect that answer that much. You don't have to you don't have to justify it to anyone. It's like so in some regards, it's just like, you can go for the easiest answer that's going to give the least amount of friction. Because unless you really respect the person unless the persons on that list, then you might want to go into it more. That's like I'm just having a break.

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It's like when people who are recognized probably vegans out there, or people who have said that are allergic to some Yes,

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I'm actually allergic because knowing the person that's you sure

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sure you're not gluten

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show you you so you show you a celiac show you just not trying to shred now that's good.

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I think. Yeah, this year for me. I don't

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think I've

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it's been a funny year, because I've been through Hi, but I've enjoyed it a lot. But I definitely haven't been the person I want to be. But not in a negative way. I haven't been some fucking outrageous ass all that I'm devastated about. But I look at it. I don't think I have been that person I've wanted to be this is a lot of improvement I want to make. And I'm not down about that.

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So where do you Where do you start? Yeah,

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I see the whole thing is one an area to sort of just make sure yeah, that I've got nothing that is external in. I'm not relying on anything external, not what I

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do. Because I'm saying

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because I haven't seen alcohol effect are so what you doing in any like, it's not as? Yeah,

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but maybe I maybe I've convinced myself that it's like

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a problem. I need to get rid of it. Yeah.

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And maybe that's the tokenistic thing, maybe that's a step that you need to take, yeah, to be able to maybe, you know, Dawn, a different fucking mask, maybe that's something maybe that's something from your younger years or something that's holding you back or making you feel like the old Tommy like me with certain foods. Like if I have fast food, I start feeling like the kid that kid, the fat kid. And so if I just take it out, it's like, you don't need to take out everything. But if it makes you feel completely different. I've only had a couple of days of being, like, more intentional with my eating. And I just feel happier. Just like oh, it's just everything, I just get a sense of everything's gonna be okay. Whereas when I'm eating poorly, my default thinking is not everything's okay. I can't pinpoint one of these but shits going to go wrong. It's

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the person you want to be is actually hard to it's hard. It's not an easy. It's not going to be easy. And so that's why I think if I can just give myself the best chance of becoming that person. Yeah. Yeah,

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so I haven't got my word for the yet.

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Oh, I've got still got a few our chin

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gronk gronk

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gronk. I wanted to say thank you to a bunch of people who have a notice. I'm just going through like, Michelle be Mac the early days we you know, God sent us an email, just literally got a tray of center centers a bunch went on the show. We're looking forward to it. We think we'll get him on when he's at CES in January and gronk. So in the in the coming days. I'm literally just scrolling through a lot from Michelle's always go good Banta up to the I'm scrolling through them up to the North Korea. Remember we did the North Dakota and some interesting shows in North Korea when we spoke to China. He was just I just came back from a great North Korea. Yeah, wouldn't have had access otherwise. Now. Derek, massive thanks for Derek screw. Today's is fucking amazing. Mr. 97 to 97. Obviously,

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Seth Godin. Sorry about all the email. Yeah. Josh.

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Rob, Robbie ward. J man, so there's a lot Gemma who else it's just so many. I'm literally just whining haters. Oh, yeah. Wine master. Shout out to wine. Cindy. Cindy? Yeah.

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Did we see

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Matt as well, Matthew. Yeah, and we're not doing last names anymore. Just because that was a cluster fuck. When man we've actually gotten heaps of emails I'm going through. It's a lot of them. Ravi. Thanks my Ross k River.

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Hulk Smash.

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Conspiracy Jimmy. Conspiracy Jimmy. Of course. A sin self.

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BK. I can think good. Yeah, I'll take this is

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Kyle. Yeah.

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Look, got some stickers. It's cool man to like you. He I always watch people.

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Thanking you know, YouTube is Thank you so much. I'm so grateful Andre, for my audience is that

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but I actually I'm actually doing that right now. I'm Santiago. I think it's fucking good. Like it's crazy. At the start of the year we had we didn't i didn't know any of that most of these people. Yeah.

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This is all these are people. We never met most of them. We've never met and they taking the time so fucking Thank you. Absolutely. Now I'm getting paranoid. I'm forgetting anyone. My let's have a look. I'm just gonna have a quick last. Looking at all the people who've asked was Danny fuckin try and try and drive it back in Danny fucking Danny. Neil. Thanks, mate. I think that's

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man we've had a bunch of and also hops. I can hop tonight.

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But I've actually or you could have asked me. I mean, this was very off the cuff. But I have the email list people that we've sent stickers to. Oh, yeah, I just had a look. Yeah,

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we can just do a quick one if you want

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anyone else. Yeah, Tom.

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Ethan. Match. I do know what this sounds like. Neil and Danny. Yep. This reminds me of Andre. Send it said Cassidy. Anthony, back. You

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know, it reminds me of

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the Easter Easter Good Friday. Night Falcon home in Hawaii. stars that can't rave have complicated names. Got john from Berwick, who is donating $100 and he said he will double if it if it's on TV. That's that's sort of shit. Yeah. And he's probably the most boring thing to me at shepherd. Did I mentioned human periscope? And we had awesome guests as well.

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Are you how many guests do we have? Because my brother said to me how many? Oh, who's your guest? I said no. It's just

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us. I would say not even 30. Maybe 30? Yeah.

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We can see what he's a reasonable amount. Yeah.

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Hi, I have a daily talk. show.com if you want to send us an email, Samantha also, she's a

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big fan. She had a whole episode about

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it. It's the end of the year. It's such a great if you

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can, if you were to conjure or create a story. And this is why the end of the year is such a great part of the narrative. The god it's this kind of point, you know, tomorrow, I can then start fresh. Yeah, which is the red flags for you all this are the warning signs of that motivation, because it

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does give you that

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but if it if it gives it like if we know anything, Seth Godin talks about the placebo effect, it's real. And so it feels real to you. If it's like if this if this is what tykes right now USA, you know, say the thing committed to yourself. Like I've done it like we did it with the podcast. Yeah. And we've done it. And now, like, I'm ready for 10 years, we've got 10 years, and we were doing it and I know we can do it and we'll look back me like back. Isn't that amazing? Yeah,

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but it's good.

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thousand episodes, and we're fucking so big media companies. Well, yeah, we got a business too. Yeah, we went from Phuket and having your own businesses doing our own thing to bring it all together as well. It's been it's been a massive Yeah, yeah. It's fucking great. So Delhi talk to everyone. Hi, the daily talk show.com if you want to send us any emails, otherwise, we'll we'll see you for Episode 256. Tomorrow. We're going to organize how we're doing that.

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Yes, a public holiday. We've got an option get it done before we

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catch you guys. Hey, guys.