#178 – Travelling with mates & Join us on Reddit!/

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conversation, sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jacket. It's a daily Talk Show

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Episode 178 Josh Janssen might get confusing people with that delay.

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Yeah, we're not in a delay. I was just, I thought you might have had a bit more and I thought you might have just painted it was gonna say

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you were I was I was about to say something like sponsored by, you know, a sponsored by our subreddit which I can happily say that thanks to my geeky friend Eb who I'm staying with in Barcelona who you can see this I've got that many board games behind me right now. Yeah, because he's a loves a good board game

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actually looks ridiculous. So it first time listener we are in different countries. I'm in St Kilda in Melbourne and Josh is in Barcelona. Barcelona, which is crazy. We've got how many shows? Lyft? Six, Seven shows before we're back in the same ether. Ridiculous. Yeah, we'll be in New York very soon. But I will bring up that nerd stuff again because he messaged me yesterday show. So we've been doing it quite early on. Early for me late for you. It's it's just after 6am here. But you said so I will stay scheduled to do the 6am. Show the nighttime show for you. And you said mate, can we do it a little later? maybe an hour and a half later? We're up playing board games.

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Yeah, it was slightly incorrect because it was an important became It was a card game. I think it's called love letters. Have you heard of this game?

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Not not. I played that. And greyed to the

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sea. Actually, did you keep any love letters that you got given

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for a while? And then I and then I did a seance and curse the girls night? But no, I remember a few. Yeah.

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But yeah, anyway, so we played a game called love letters. And but the reason I brought up the geek Enos is because I was to say racking my brain.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah, I was racking my brain thinking Who can I get to get us on to read it as a subreddit, because as I mentioned, on yesterday's show, I went to my account, and I didn't have enough karma or whatever you need to sign it up. And luckily, I went on TBS account, and I now have the daily talk show. So if you go to reddit.com, forward slash, forward slash, the daily talk show,

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there'll be nothing there.

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There. There is something that this is a thing. I was thinking about how she's away Bane, when it comes to keep up taping anything other than the podcast, in regards to social media.

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Yeah, I agree. I mean, the main thing for us to do is the, the podcast, which I think when we're together, back on the ground in the same space, I think it'll be much easier to sort of keep keep, keep control of that I done the 711 rip off coffee. I've just seen it

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submitted. But the funny thing is this whole, like, when we're back together thing, it just reminds me of all those common things you hear in life where it's like, are only when I get this car, when I get this camera, everything is going to change. Yeah,

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I mean, when people talk about camera gear, and you know, I need this to make a video I said, you know, buy it. If money is not the problem, don't use any is an excuse. If

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I don't, I

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don't, I just said buy it. If money is the problem, then using something that you actually can't achieve, which is the purchasing of it. But if you have the money, and you think it's the camera, that's going to do it for you, and you've convinced yourself, because it definitely isn't the camera. But if you were saying it is do it because prove yourself wrong. Like I've done it many times, and I've bought the thing and used it a bit and and so I think you learn it's like a people learn the hard way, a lot. And if that it means just making a few purchases of some camera, camera equipment. And so I look at it like that. For us. It's I think, you know, when you're back, I think if we've been able to give it a crack lock we have and never miss a day. I think I think that when you're here, it will be easier then to implement something that has been a bit challenging, much easier.

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I mean, I'm part I was playing devil's advocate, in the sense that I actually think it's one of those cases where it's like, when we're back together, it just means that we're going to be able to be in a routine together will be you know, coming back to our, you know, joint venture and going you know, all guns blazing on on that. So I think it will make a massive difference.

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Yeah, definitely. Just on the friends thing. I've met another friend.

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And I'm

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same name is mon Tom.

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Okay? Because you need another fucking Tommy in your life.

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No, this is actually the second and I say friend, loosely, you know, person that I've met, and then become Facebook friends with. And so this is the second passenger that has been sitting there to me on a plane ride that I've become friends with. Have you ever been on a plane lightly? Not lightly. So this, this took a little while for it to become to you know, for to get this far. I'll tell you the first one that I made friends with and then became Facebook friends with. I was heading up to Sydney sitting next to this dude. And we call it you know, like, I think I mean, you've you've probably never spoken to anyone who sat next to you on a plane,

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which is just pretend to be a slight.

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And so it's sort of I mean, for me who I speak to a lot of people. And I'm and I'm kind of confident not it's not even about confidence. It's like, I actually don't mind talking to people. random people about random fit sometimes sometimes I totally switch off, and I pull the JJ. But this one time, it's probably maybe like midway into the flight we started kind of talking. We sort of just eased into it. And was the flight. It was just an hour up to sit De Soto Yeah, probably half an hour. And you know, I think it's probably more when they like bringing stuff down you kind of being sort of interrupted from what you're doing. And we started talking and it turned out this dude, somehow we were he mentioned like, Oh, yeah, I was doing some, you know, soccer refereeing. Oh, yeah. And I sort of pushed him on this. What? What do you mean soccer? Like whereabouts? Are indoor soccer? Oh, cool. What, um, what centre was it? Said Abbott pack indoor sports centre, said Mark lines it crazy. He's like, you're on goose Marco. I was like, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. So this dude is, like worked part time for my uncle's business.

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So literally did you know this is a perfect example of you're sitting next to someone little Did you know. He was some big fucking deal. He's the referee.

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Part time at the endorser. Yeah,

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yeah. And so we became Facebook friends. And then I actually tried to get him on to help us with the quad lock video shoot, because he's, he's really

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going back ages. So this was this would have been over a year ago.

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Yeah, I mean, we became friends probably a couple of years back.

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Okay, so this isn't Tom is this. This isn't the first guy.

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This is the first one. The second one is when I went up to outback Australia, so small in mind, so you or was this was this a big applying all three planes. So we got the Melbourne to Sydney, Melbourne to Brisbane, no friend, Brisbane, and then that next plane was over to place called black hole, and then it goes to long ridge. And so when I was sitting down, sort of in the area where you you have to go out into the tarmac, because you have to get on to the little small quantities plane. I kind of just set sat down wherever, wherever I thought was good spot. And then this dude came he was young. And I said to him, somehow each, I probably wanted to chat. Sometimes I feel like I want to chat. And so I initiated the chat and to this dude said I might where you have to. Because it's a small area. Not everyone. There's only a couple of flights. Is it I'm going to I'm going to long rich, I said are cool. Same Same here. And we just started

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having to get on to the long rage. Playing. Yeah. And that's going to long range. And you're surprised that he's also going along rage.

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Yeah, because there was quite a few people in this area. And not all of them were actually going to long rage. So there was like,

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it's really not that on the scale of excitement. It's not sort of the craziest thing at like, yes. Long reaches sort of a bit of a random location. Yeah, you're at the turret. You're at the guys to get on the plane. Long, right? Is

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that right? Well, yeah, way sort of sitting near the gate as you go along. Right? You're at the gate. All right, I'll fuck it. I know you want some sort of like, holy shit. That's crazy. We walk down the tarmac, we're just chatting. He gets on walks on. I took some time because I was filming the plane. I get on a walk. I'm sitting next to the book. We

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were on this plane, a 5550. Maybe maybe more. How many people were on the plane five.

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Now, but we ended up sitting next to each other which is it was pretty cool. And so we just started chatting. And he was he was a young buck was probably my age. And he was a doctor that was doing like, you know, working in a hospital in long rage. Great storey like not from there. I think it was from Brisbane and originally and so human nice. girlfriend. Both words sort of working in life rage. Doing do it you know doing I don't know. They try it's like a training ground. I think it was. It was on good money. They said it's like a good opportunity. Couple of years. You go out there any fun.

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What? Yes. What an awesome skill to have being a doctor. So what he is a doctor?

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you said it. He told me a few storeys. Just about what it's like being a doctor there around. You know, like, there's not a, you know, you'll read, sometimes you'll read so that you do everything. It's like I'm on car accidents and stuff. Well, I don't think that's he's the doctor at the hospital.

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Yeah, you signed your route. I just sort of assumed maybe it was literally just human, a car sort of driving around

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are no, no, no, it's going to be quite a big hospital. It's like the main one for the outback there. I mean, I tried to relate it to. It was like me being in Sheffield on the radio, always. It just made my co host, no producer. I mean, the similar roles, crazy stuff and the things that have happened saving lives. And so yeah, we've talked about what I was doing in long rage. And I had my camera on me. So I was kind of curious about that knee was into taking photos and stuff. And

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what do you default to? Do you find when you're having these types of conversations with people? Yeah. What's the spiel? What What do you lead with in regards to describing you?

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Yeah, I think it's very much around what I'm doing at that time. So it helps, like if I was just floating and doing nothing, I'd probably talk about what I do. But we I was talking about what I was going to long rich to do. And so not much more than that. And so yeah, he it turned out he was curious about, you know, photography and video and stuff. So he was came, came to hear what I had to say. And so anyway, that was it. We just sort of got off the plane. And I said sale it might have, yeah, for the nice. I actually know he gave me his number. Because he said, If you come back to long rage, let me know. Because it's not that there's not that many people there. Let me know if you back in town, which I thought, yeah, that could be a possibility until I worked out that once I got too long, rich, it was an hour and a half drive down a dirt road to get to the property where it was. So it's probably a bit far just to duck into town for a beer. And also

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costs as much as a return flight to New York.

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No, totally. And so I then got that was it said too late at all. And then I made that video that is all about the behind the scenes of the shoot that I was on. And I've posted it and it and it started to pick up a bit of momentum. And, and last night, I mean, this morning, I said I jumped on. And I sort of comment on the video. This bloke named Tom he said fantastic video mate. I was the fella sitting next to you on the plane ride out.

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How good's that? How do you deny how he actually found you?

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I can I'll give it a crack at it. I don't know, but I can give it a crack because there's been a whole heap of people from long reach starting to lock in the comment on the video. And so it's not a big place. I'm sure it's sort of circling back and I posted on that. ringers of the outback. Yes. And so yeah, it's

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nice to again.

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Ring is a cow boy,

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boy equivalent of a cowboy.

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Yeah, Chicago. Yeah, so I think it's just how women

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can women have this has doesn't have the same ring does it as cow girl.

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Yeah. And so yeah, I think it's just circle back to him. But I hit that I hit that friendship button. It's not called a friendship button to go to add for

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friend. Except you didn't add he added you right. Now I added him. I mean, that's very King and he accepted.

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Yeah, I mean, I could tell you so I like to sometimes take the first step

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who's who's the most exciting person you have on your Facebook Do you think that would excite the daily talk show audience

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you know what a fan did people don't really have other than the sheriff long Maya from the hit show six seasons long Meyer on Netflix. Main human rights. Yeah. Ruslan Cogan, but he's got a female. That's a good one. Trevor long. Now, actually, we might struggle with that. I think that's it. You got any good I

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don't have I don't have any when exciting. Probably the weirdest one I would have is a murder and it's in jail. Murder.

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Wow. Yeah. So he was talking about that on the she sees page still active?

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Yeah, it's still active. Yep. ovary. LinkedIn went down. I'm guessing the company that he worked with, worked for at the time. probably wasn't a good look. And they asked for it to be shut down would be my guess.

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Yeah. Yeah. Have you made any friends on this trip?

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Have I made friends at Nah, no, not really. We've, we had, there was an elderly couple that we got along with really well, in Turkey, there would have been in their 70s. I lived in Savannah, Georgia. I did say we're going to add them on social media. But then we just didn't get their last name. So we couldn't bend. They were lovely. We we told them that we're going to Slovenia after Turkey. And the lady presented us with two unused water bottles that they had that were like hiking water bottles like Reba. What else was great. So we had that one on one weed, one that we did have was wasn't weird. But Bry had asked me about a chick who was following her on Instagram said Oh, she's asked a question about something. And I was like, I think, yeah, like over the years having been on Twitter for a while you sort of accumulate some random people who you just like, yeah, I'm connected to them. But I don't actually know how or why. But this is being similar circles. And she looked like someone who had been in that sort of early Twitter sort of sphere. So I said that to her. Anyway, it turns out wasn't until we got to Amsterdam, where she was like, the girl commented and said, Oh, you're in Holland. And then Bray clicked on to the profile and worked out that it was a girl that we'd sat with at it like a communal dinner in when we were in Italy. And it was like it was like lunch. Like we did sort of a tour of one of the areas man, I'm so fucking bad at remembering where we went. What's the one where there's got the ash and start like the what was the big? The big fucking the volcano in

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Italy? Once I didn't know how to pump back on but Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, it was when we were doing that to her. And yeah, so it turns out that that girl had found Bry and was following her.

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So that's cool. That was cool. Yeah, I think there's like a heightened sense of loneliness. Yeah, this like, you know, you feelings is sort of elevated when you sit on a trip and especially like, I remember being in Italy. And I, you know, like, in my, like, everyone's got their own sort of backstory and narrative going. So like it for me, I was over in Europe for the first time and I was by myself, I went to Italy. I was in Rome and caught the train I got on this train. I couldn't understand what anyone was saying in those like, signs. It wasn't clear, but I got in the right train and ended up in Florence and had to work my way to a backpackers that are staying at by myself and I didn't know if I'd made any friends or, you know, sort of it or we'll have a good time. And so I rocked up at this place. This backpack is

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going to backpack is and yeah,

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like it might not turn off. You're gonna make any maids might even sometimes roosters feel like the chickens. I'll tell you that much.

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And so that's a good title, the title of the show,

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and so I walked into this backpackers and instantly, and Ozzy's in there. I just remember our first interaction. And his name's Neil Russell. And we've become great made since he lives up in Sydney. And shout out to Neo he just his beautiful wife, Katie just had a baby. And so we've we've stayed in touch and now he's good mates with Jools Holland. He was Julian's personal trainer up in Sydney, when I lived up in Sydney would be really gone. We'd be surfing most days. Amy's friends with Neil's wife, Katie. And so this is like an but I just remember Neil and I hanging out. And it was like, my basement, I felt like fact, we're close. He's a personal trainer, I was a personal trainer at that point. And we like we went on, we would go and seek coffees in the morning. He's the guy who actually went and saw the statue of David with that I mentioned yesterday, in Florida, just hanging is a couple of blocks. Yeah. We've got some great photos of us like CDs standing at a coffee, just like a you know, like, espresso bar, where it's just the old school Italian cafe. And so I just remember getting back in so I'm going to catch up with that guy. He was really great with Facebook friends. And sure enough, we did I moved to Sydney and and we've hung hung out quite a bit.

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I've, how do you feel about the quick, making your friends? I used to be a big sort of believer in it, or I'd get sort of into the hype and get excited. But I think maybe I'm maybe I'm getting real old and crusty. But I just I'm sceptical of that type of energy.

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Yeah. I think you as a person need to know, the limits. And, you know, I think I think you've been burned before I think I've been burned before. I think you use those as an as a bird not like, it's just like, you might have thought it was different than it was, you know, in a bad way will like

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Rick recognising I think that

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part of a friendship or equation is the amount of time and I think that I've, you know, gotten into the cases of just being like, I can, this person is going to be my best mate. Yeah, and yeah, I feel like it's never, I feel like I've had probably like half a dozen cases in my life where I, I think it's when it's people who have similar qualities, and then the same types of people where it's like, all in Yeah, let's hang out all the time. And just sort of, it's a it's a bit unsustainable.

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Yeah, yeah, no, I get it, I think I've had a good run with having guide or realise that a, being able to realise what a friendship is, or, like, I put it this way, when, you know, people look at friendships, and they think it needs to have a lot of trust. And you know, I don't like that person. If I don't trust them. It's like, just assume a level of trust with most of the people. But I also have a gauge of who I will allow in more than others. And I think I've had a good gauge, in my time of people, that has allowed me to sort of have some good friendships, but have a lot of acquaintances. And that works for me. I mean, some people don't even like having acquaintances. They like having their rocks. You know, maybe if,

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if you only friends do you think you you need

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I mean,

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you only name a Josh. So scrap, everyone else know, it? I think it's so varied. I mean, I can count my sort of close, close best mates, on probably one hand. I've got 15 fingers on one hand, you know, but, um, and I think that's all. Yeah, I don't think it varies forever. But when you really think about who you actually hang out with who you talk with, mostly, it's this weird thing when you get older, though, because you spend so much time working. And so yeah, like, I've had friends, I've been really close friends saying who the facts, Josh? And who the fuck of a

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night in China who these people know who I am?

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No, no, no. But what they meant was, Where did he come from? Like, I hadn't heard of him. And for the first couple years, you and I were, you know, working together are spending more time with you than I have with him over the last couple years. But it's because we're in the same world, essentially, you know, our works are aligned, our you know, what we are doing, our creative endeavours align. And so you end up spending heaps of time with these people. And you know, what, like, our friendship? You know, Marty gone hard and then sort of pulled off if I wasn't doing the same thing, or

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I think it was a good, I think, banks sort of I think we're opposites in a, in a lot of ways. And I think that that helps, because it's not like, I think that the energy that I'm not sure on is when I'm like, this person likes all the same stuff that I do. But I think it's good. There needs to be some level of tension. I think within relationships, I think even especially the best Juno's. You don't want to have the same people, you want to be able to, like have some contrast to make the Yes. Interesting, you know, in a content context.

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Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I mean, it's not, I mean, yeah, I think about James, who, you know, I think, who I talked about a bit, he's been my friend for, you know, 20 years. And I'll probably probably bit less. But I've known him since I was a kid. And like it over, over that time, the relationship changes. And even though I've always got fired him as a really good night, it's actually I reckon it's got stronger recently, because we've worked in the same building. And, you know, things bring you together more. So if you think you're good mates with someone, it's like, there is still more that you could, there is still deeper that you can go with that person. And, and it might just be the time in your life we're at that will dictate that, because just so happened that James and I had babies around the same time. We've got, you know, business in the same space.

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We're just I think social media changes things, too. I mean, Jimmy's a good example of someone who you're not going to have that with because he's, he's not on those platforms. But there are a bunch of people who I'm connected with through social media, who I wouldn't have seen in real life in six years.

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Yeah, but you feel like you've been communicating with

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ya, feels like we're being connected the whole time. Yeah. And the other thing, I think it's interesting with travel is the difference between a brain I can travel the brain, I've been in each other's pockets for last close to three months. And it's been awesome. And I just think about, like, the times that I've travelled with people over the years, and the difference that it makes when you're travelling, like the, there's only, like, I'm fairly easy, but you realise in the moment, the different quirks and people and it just like people change a lot from when they're in the security of their, you know, own sort of community versus how they act when they travel.

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Yeah, well, you get uncomfortable travelling.

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Yeah. And everyone's sort of anxieties come out to right, so then,

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you know, you can,

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all of those things become a lot more obvious. If you like, staying indoors, and you're in a city, it's going to become a lot more obvious. And I think I'm the weird combo of I am. I like to think I'm adventurous. But at the same time, breeze constantly dragging me out of my cocoon, because like, at the moment, the obsession is learning Pro Tools. So I've decided to make the switch from Adobe Audition to Pro Tools because I sort of want to flex that muscle, I want to sort of be able to do sort of more advanced audio post processing when it comes to like, the films that we make. And so you know, even on the train into Barcelona. This afternoon, I had downloaded training from Linda calm so that when we you had that time, I was just like, looking and consuming and learning. Yeah.

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Yeah, sometimes sometimes. I mean, sometimes you gotta hit the brakes, bro. Yeah, yeah, not. But the thing is, it's like, that's your version of fun. Yeah. And, and you love that. And so it's hard to go. I mean, you've just gotta be careful of when when you're doing it. And if it's impacting other people, because it might be fun for you. But then if it's annoying for someone else, or they want your attention, it's hard, because it's like, you know, being selfish. But sometimes you need to be Yes, I'm probably gonna throw that right. Yeah, just present. Yeah,

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well, I was present. We went to the Picasso Museum today. That was awesome.

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And all I had was one of your phone in

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saying how much Pro Tools I learned in a Picasso Museum. I yellow. fact, the funny thing about Picasso is you look at the stuff when he was 10 years old, and it looks like an adult's done it and the older he got the more sort of it looked like a kid had drawn, he'd got sort of gone the other way.

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It was the Benjamin Button of,

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of the world. Exactly. But I feel like I've one thing brain I haven't been buying souvenirs or anything, so we don't have to carry anything. But one thing I would love to do all sink is a way to learn is every month get a new, like art book. Like on a specific artist, that's a coffee table book and have it for that month. So like basically allocate you know, budget for 12 books throughout the year or whatever. And then just wrote, like, just have 12 different artists that I learned about. So when I'm like chilling out and trying to have less screen time in the evening, I can open up a cup because I book and learn about his processes and all that sort of shit.

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Slightly sceptical.

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Yeah, well, I think economy needs if you're interested in art, I think you need that initial interest. It's like the advisor.

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That's where I think it's, that's what's interested me is that I actually, I think that as what interests me about the painting is actually more the storeys and the psychology, Randall. So you see here when, you know, because I had like the blue period where it's like a little bit sort of very blue and melancholy and sort of dark. And you can say all the things that happens in people's lives, that actually affects their art form. Yeah, I even I guess I draw parallels between, like, I think about these painters, and I see them, okay, yeah. These people were friends, and they were doing stuff together. And then it influences and I look at it on a very small scale for what even what we're doing. And I think like, unfortunately, I just don't think that we're going to look back with the same sort of rose coloured glasses with like, a gallery with a YouTuber, even the top youtubers aren't going to have a fucking museum with all of that work.

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Yeah, I think that old school celebrity Oh, that old school prestige of someone celebrities gone a bit. Like they won't be too many Tom Cruise's anymore. Or, you know, even some, like the Beatles, like those kind of,

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I guess, maybe the celeb the style of celebrity changes. I guess there's going to be an Elon Musk. You know, this can be technology entrepreneurs. Like there's gonna be a Mark Zuckerberg Museum, maybe? Yeah. I wonder, I think that, like, she's becoming more and more accessible. And so I think it's a lot harder to be unique and stand out.

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Yeah, yeah. I will say that I heard some advice yesterday that I that was just around, you know, that the classic like, wanting it. You know, if you're wanting to do something, and you spending your time watching Netflix, you know, maybe just ditch the Netflix and immerse yourselves in learning something. And it was in relation to video, like, you want to start making videos or you want to start learning how to animate, you might as well start ditching Netflix and start just using that time to learn. But I was thinking around that advice. And what I said to you just before, have, you need a slight interest in what you're doing. Whereas I think people can feel like they want to do something, like stop making videos, or start learning how to be an animator or learning some programme, but they might just think that they want to, and they like the lifestyle, they like being able to say that they do it. Yeah, yeah. And I think about myself with learning how to make videos, and I'm self taught. And I had massive, like interest, like, it stimulated me in a certain way that allowed me to push through so much pain of not knowing and feeling that uncomfortable feeling, which, and I still, I still watch Netflix. And so it don't think it's the Netflix, I think it's the thing, that you you need an interest, you need it to be at a certain level, and to be scratching away on the inside that you need to fix that itch. And, and not everyone has that. And you might think that you have that for something. But you and it's okay, if you don't, because there might be something else. But I think

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I think for me, I just have too many hobbies, like I love, I get obsessed with so many things. The the one example that I can think of that I can really relate to what you're sort of describing is around web development. I've tried, probably half a dozen times in the past 15 years to learn how to code. And I get as far as setting up sort of the instal. And then I'm just like, I, I just like, the little bit of problem solving that I get out of like fixing a WordPress template is sort of peak, and I just can't build something from scratch in that sort of format and get the sort of joy that I do doing a podcast or doing a video or something like that.

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Yeah. And and so maybe it's, maybe you don't need to do it. And, and if and if people out there feeling like they've been having a crack at something, but maybe it's not right. I mean, it's a title call that you need to make for yourself, but I don't think I think that's the problem with people offering advice, you know, on a big scale saying, just fucking stop wasting your time watching Netflix and do the thing. It's like maybe, maybe that thing is not a jab, maybe.

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Yeah, and the thing is that the look at the grab that you took from, from my birthday from 2007 of me, you know, doing a podcast. Yeah, that that is. That's sort of a 10 years of thinking about podcasting. Right, yes, 10 years. And that's 10 years of like, every year having some form of crack at it, doing some sort of version. And it just so happened. So I think that the key is, though, to have that crack, because when you have the crack, even if it's not the big thing, even like with the daily talk show, we're fine with the fact that this might not be the big thing. But if you do it enough, if you have enough of those things you're you've putting in input to then get something out.

36:50
Yeah. Yeah.

36:52
Can we make this subreddit thing? An actual thing that we spend time on?

36:57
Yeah, I think it's a good it's a good well, it's come from exterior. And

37:04
who was at the mentioned that read it?

37:07
Yeah, to me. Yeah. I mean, so

37:09
yeah, I do like it.

37:11
I like so let's, let's make because I know the Michelle has, she also tweeted me about my getting stickers to her. They are, they are coming, I can win. But I told Bray about the 20. She said actually, Barcelona is a good place to do it. Because we've got Joby who speaks Spanish, he can sort it out for you. So there's been some promises I've made over the course of the show. But most promises but being fairly good at and I think, read it, I could imagine spending my time on and actually interacting, and really creating a solid community. I just feel like compared to Facebook groups and shit like that, I just think that there's so much else attached to all the Facebook stuff that's just like, every time I open Facebook, I have notifications from being an admin of shit that I just don't even care about.

38:07
Yeah, so I actually think read it plays into what you like, sort of that text really getting into the the nuance of thought and, and Cheryl

38:18
rabbit hole loving, right? So yeah, go you can put in. So basically, if you go to reddit.com forward slash our forward slash, the daily talk show, click follow or subscribe or for the fact they call it and just posted one piece of content, right? Just find one thing that you found online that you think that is interesting. And stick it up there maybe even put a comment in there comment on someone else's stuff will be in there and commenting and posting our own things. And let's use it as a bit of a tool to you know, work out what we want to talk about and to be informed and to learn about new things. I think that'd be really cool.

39:02
Or I've just put a little video up on Insta storey. So if you are listening on today's date, it will be there in 24 hours Sorry, bro. Awesome.

39:11
Today talk show everyone will see you on Redis otherwise, yeah, see you tomorrow. Have a good night, guys.