#165 – Earpods and loglines/

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket. It's a daily talk show, Episode 165. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Who? That's a feeling. Yeah, that's Yeah, I'm feeling good. I I'm reminded of as to why I have laid off partying and drinking as hard as I did over the weekend,

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because I remember feeling this a lot in my early 20s. But now I'm 30. And it's and I've definitely slowed down doing that. So it's a Monday morning, and I felt like he could have kept sleeping all day.

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And so happy birthday, by the way. Thanks, Brett.

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You're now the big three. Zero. Yeah. Good. So, so you had you had a party? Tell me about it. I wasn't there. What went on what was was there any controversies? Any fights on this now,

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right? If there was a punch on it, my 30th birthday. It would be the worst birthday ever. Like if there's ever a fight at your own party. Something, something about like, you probably need a either look at your friendship group, or just look at yourself in the mirror. And then punchy self nine. And it's the best thing about the party was that it was like a small group of people for dinner. And it was people who I love and that's and that's all I wanted to be around a good group of people. And everyone loved the food. Everyone loved each other's company. It was great at an awesome night. Got some I've got I've got to let mentioned. Let me just tell you know this story, Josh, because you're a part of it. You'll want your 50% of this story. But forever, right. I got this. So I got this message on set. So they which was the day my birthday from Joshua's lovely little, you know, little passage about our friendship and happy birthday. And then he sent a screenshot of a present that he bought me

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digital, a digital presence, essentially. Well, you shouldn't, you shouldn't compromise you shouldn't. Yeah, digital confirmation wasn't a receipt. It wasn't like, I was like, Man, this is this is why I spent it was a taste for confirmation email. Yeah, with just the the product of a photo of the product. Yeah, and what the product was. Yeah, it was also address

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is a great idea. Because I was like, to me in my head of the arm it says, I can't really get you in

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you like it's,

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it's a good if you want to get someone selling, buying something online, and then just send them the screenshot of the confirmation. Great idea. Anyway, so you did that. And it blew me away. You bought me a I told everyone check out this I got ear pods. They're like they're able to you know, you fact

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this is why you don't have air pods because you don't even know what they call like

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hit Done asking the ear pods in stock they said no,

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we've always had a bit of pushback to my ear pods but the thing is you're the minority because especially before I left to go away I was constantly on calls and stuff on my air pods and I would say Jimmy our mate walking by with his air pod yeah and you would sometimes talk about like you would use any opportunity to complain if he couldn't hear me properly when I was using my air pods mates fact on windy or using the air pods or the Ponzi probably call it definitely code behind it but I knew deep down there was a little bit of you that was like you wouldn't mind a Paris

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HUD's Yeah, of course. Whether they're an expensive toy fury.

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Anyway. You You bought me a pair of air pods. And it was amazing. I was like, holy shit. Fuck. Yeah, thanks, bro. Anyway, the party comes, you know, 7pm people start arriving Jimmy rocks up and he's got he's like do you want in prison now or later. So I might whenever you want to give it to me. Give me all right now. And so he goes off and gets his presence just like this bag. And he's like, sorry, couldn't wrap. It might and it's just classic classic blog just in a in a bag that he bought from the shops in and so he hands it over to me. I feel it. I'm thinking off. I don't want to get ahead of myself here. But I've been up and I hadn't got ahead of myself. He'd bought me air pods which I just looked at him and he's face my face. Probably. It was probably like, I've now have this and then I looked at him I was your facial risk. What was your response to you? I think I was just like, no, it was like, almost bit cheeky. Like I knew it and I pulled him out and I go hang on a second I pulled out my phone I said yeah, Josh sent me this just before I showed him the receipt of the confirmation Oh fuck they bought me that I had two pairs of the air pods

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classic it worked out all right because I was able to cancel my order yeah but it's always risky you know you only have to speak to Derek from the what now podcast he bought a MacBook Pro and then how long was it was it was a week later yeah

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I saw him not even a week maybe yeah maybe four or five days after he bought it and I said to him he's on it he's a guy that's the I got the new the new MacBook Pro it's just come over from using PCs how our whole entire life

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and I said Are there is a new one that like just came out like a brand new one. And he got the model before which was like the week before so he got it just before it came out. And he said to me that the guy the Maxwell said arm yeah, I'm not sure when the new ones coming out. Which is either just wasn't listening in a staff meeting. Or he knew and he just couldn't be bothered. But I said to him, I don't think they would. It was it was I think it was long enough beforehand, even like a week before, if it hasn't been announced to the public. Like the Apple Store. Dude wouldn't have known realized it was good. Yeah, yeah. And they call themselves was geniuses

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that geniuses with very little information. They meant talking about the geniuses when I had my MacBook Pro fuck up. When I because I had the first touch bar MacBook Pro a couple of years ago, and I ordered it online. I was actually in Fiji on holidays, I woke up at 430 in the morning to watch the live announcement because I knew that there are announcing something. Anyway, I pre ordered it and got it A month later, when it was officially coming out. And the computer wasn't working. So I took it into the app, the Apple Store. And there was only this is how much Apple has changed in regards to the way they operate. You know, like 10 years ago, Max where their bread and butter and now obviously the iPhone has taken over. But there was only one guy who in on the whole Genius Bar that was certified to actually work on Macs. And so I pulled out my MacBook Pro, and he says, Oh, this is the first time I've used one of these new MacBook Pros like this is this is the fucking Genius Bar, dude. And so, um, yeah,

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I think that there's a certain much just cause live derek derek story will close it. close the loop there. So Derek bought the Mac or the older MacBook Pro, which was basically obsolete in the eyes of anyone who's just bought the MacBook Pro. And the new one comes out the week after. So I said to him, yeah, I reckon you could probably take it back. And he sure enough, he took it back. He said. He walked in and out with the brand new MacBook Pro within seven minutes, which is pretty good. He was ready for a fight. Yeah, he was a Yeah, yeah. He's more Thai shorts on and he was

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ready for something. I wouldn't want to mess with Derek in my shorts. Is

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that really does he have you ever seen Derek Webb boy. Tasha nursing Derek invoice are short. But there isn't. actually did you go. I was just gonna say about about the party just in closing, amazing weekend, followed by Father's Day The following day, which was, yeah, it's a super weekend. Next Next day. My birthday falls on Father's Day, which is often on a Sunday. So it's a double whammy. Is it awesome. It's sort of the double whammy, you don't get sort of two cakes or to sort of separate days. Glad it's not through on my 30th because I got to have a weekend yet. I've shared my brush next. This next year. 31 useless. I've just enjoyed my day with my son and my wife and your and probably doing the paga now but we don't go as hard as we used to the amount of people that sort of just like just kind of like fell off sort of come nine o'clock. It was amazing. And I just remember like, is it I think some amazing amazing as the sound excited. Like, it's amazing. It was great. Now I was amazing. was gone by 930 in comparison to like, these are all people I've grown up with forever. So you know, we've been hanging out since we were 15 and you know partying and so I've had all my birthday isn't a lot of people have been there along the way. And we'd go hard but as we've all got older it's it's amazing how people just now ones up for going as hard as I used to. And it's just it's good. It's a good thing but it's a thing that I'm saying with it. Just like you know some people are putting in good effort but others will just bit tired and I don't blame him

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was well, someone someone that did put in a good effort was a Mac is a I received a video call from him to 30 am Melbourne time. Yeah. And he actually did tell me a store. So yeah, anything crazy happen. He said someone did throw a chair down some stairs. Did that did that happen? Or is it is I mean shit. No, actually, I don't know about that. But the story that he didn't tell you

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was that he did as well as the dream that he spilled.

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I made I made him a margarita and he spilt it and it was on to like will having the birthday was in a gallery and the the wooden floorboards exit of old and they've got a few little, you know, that liquid can get down through them. And then underneath them is basically just then the goes down through to the next floor. And so downstairs is a bar and it was pumping and the Margarita spilled onto the ground through the floorboards and was dripping onto paper waiting to get a drink at the bar

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open up their mouth. It's writing margaritas. I wonder if it did I know that it was Margarita? Had they got to the point where that worked out what the liquid was in that neither the the owner of the bar friend of mine, she came up and what did I see the form to see it's laying on the bar. And

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it's classic? Well, the

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actual before when I was going to say about the the apple thing was and specifically about the Derek story was when you're buying an Apple product, the first thing I do is make sure that a new ones not about to come out. So there was a bit of research there in the sense of they'd been rumors that they would be new air pods coming. Yeah, but I had read an article that said, I think that's like water resistant air pods or something like new versions wouldn't be coming out until next year. Okay, good. At least talking so I can go hard on them. Exactly. I've just don't go in depth on the port with them.

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They easy to set up. I haven't set them up yet. Yeah, they're

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so they're so easy. But the there's been a heap of I've gotten right back into following Apple Romans news, which is very jj 2006. Like I used to wake up every morning when there was announcements, like, put my alarm on for three I am this was you know, this was when Steve Jobs was alive and doing the keynotes. And it was before they actually live streamed the events. So what you do is you'd go to, like in gadgets or another blog, like the verge and what they would do is they would have real time blogs that would just automatically refresh with and they would connect up DSL ours to their computers, they would take still photos. So you'd be watching the still photos come in of like the big presentations and there'll be constantly writing but

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I just

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anytime there was a an iOS update when they're up to date on any of that stuff. I'll get so excited. And they've actually got a big event coming up in September this month. What is

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it is it to do more announcements? Yeah, so

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there's It's been one of the biggest leaks in history I recommend an apple history I'm just going online to have a look at what they're saying the latest stuff but basically what happens ease when there's going to be an announcement specifically

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around new iPhones or whatever it is journalists will get an invite maybe you know two weeks out so our mate Trevor long who we've had on the podcast I'm sure he would have gotten an invite in his email which basically says hey come to you know, Cupertino or wherever it is to find out some exciting news and they say factual and these in these invitations Yeah, but what a guy did and what this is really common ease developers peek through the apple.com website they go like into you know, areas that the public can't see they go into a different folder structures they they even go into to the future updates of the iPhone. So what they can do is they can go so if there's an iPhone update, they could go in and inspect some of the details and they might find a line of code which describes a new size screen or something it's used for code and they say okay so we know this but if you have a look yeah so if you if you look at that he's a real genius Yeah, if you have if he knows more than the actual genius that is but but but if you go to if you just type in the apple lakes into Google today, you will see these images This is one of the first time so saying this is an actual promo image an official image of the next iPhone which is called the iPhone 10 s

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iPhone tennis athletes are phone yet access

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access which is 10 so this is the problem they're having all of these naming conventions so there's that I think there's gonna be the 10 s and then there's also going to be the 10 plus holy shit what's going to be a problem is how much that is the tennis what can be better better this is Yeah, this is the thing I mean the thing that gives me the shits about especially even when you read tech news and I talked about the iPhones or the Samsung's or whatever it is they always hype it up as this is Apple's best iPhone Yeah, of course. Like like we should be surprised it's like yeah, of course if I can. should be the best iPhone it's the the next iPhone Yeah,

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like shouldn't just be given 100% I remember my friend had the first iPhone and it was before it came out in Australia he had like an American friend Sandoval and God also that was the best thing on earth and ladies when something first comes out like they've got better and better but the reality is it was there was nothing like seeing this new thing for the first time that just yeah yeah it felt like yeah it felt so different to now they just kind of like how until they put them until they inserted into your head the it's the screens just as impressive like the often 10 You don't even have an iPhone 10 you you've got an aversion to them you and jewels land yeah now if I can hide him back and hide on the face of detaching your presentation as you did it a fact

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and I know that the face of the facial recognition is bullshit it's like saying brain try and use Apple Pay with her phone as she's like having to like lift her head up over the F POS machine just so it like just It makes no sense I mean your thumb is conducive to a good iPhone seven plus if anything they need to increase the size of thumbprint but the but for people interested September 12 is us is when they're going to be unveiling these new finds yeah and I've heard rumors as well of new Apple Watches so they're doing like a bigger the Apple watch face you're gonna have had on your on your wrist exactly Oh Jimmy's gonna be upset because Jimmy who bought you the air pods yeah he was really happy with himself because he bought an Apple Watch maybe

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the sort of a four or five months ago and after I think it may have been saying mine he liked the look of them any he said I look what I got I said Jesus small What do you mean I didn't even really I actually thought that it Jimmy lifts a lot so I thought that he was just he's almost reminds me of Jimmy Neutron real sort of character big chest big big chest Biggs be arms he I thought that it was just his arms but it turns out that he bought this the small I think it's like 3032 mil or something the smaller spear this

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wall and so yeah it looked it looked like a novel size watch on on his arm. So be and then he am in that going and just buying the new one selling the other one to a brother or something. Yeah,

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that's it. Man. The man shit that I've sold like Apple stuff that I've sold to my brother over these. as just a it's been so tokenistic because it's like lost some value so much.

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Yes.

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I feel like the only person I can sell it to is him. Because otherwise I feel like I'm getting ripped off. If you keep in the family. You can at least think that it's like Apple

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they haven't they're not yet they're still having price you know getting it you don't feel like you're getting ripped off. If you're giving your brother a bit of a discount. It's like you've done something nice by him passing on. Exactly passing like a gift a gift that I'm getting receiving cash for. Yeah, hey,

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this is a bit of a thing to steer clear of anyone go into the state I've got because I'm making out with you in how many days now? 20 530-526-2726

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days of that so 26 days. Oh wow. I'll be in New York City with Josh Yeah, and we'll be back together

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podcasting amongst other thing is that what people they just steer clear of the US while we're there no

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no no definitely come to the US if at that time we probably won't say but it's a big place but you've got to get your visa you're gonna get your visa as an alien yes to form the esta and like it is

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for a dummy lock may

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you type in Esther to Google and you just want there's like hundreds of pages you can click on to buy or Esther and I was thinking fact this seems dodgy i can't i didn't tweet in 2012 and I can't remember how much I paid but I remember I do it and I got into the country but now it's a lot different I just seems more complicated and you can pay up to like $120 or something which you don't do that no you have you worked out this is this is this a warning is this a sign this is this is a warning so the way I found the place the the right side was riding in Esther scam and then there's like a news article that comes up that says this is where you buy the legit esta and it's like $14 Australian which is a lot different to $120 so they're all third party companies right but it just trying to what they're doing well from an SEO point of view it's amazing they're all ads the first 10 listings you know that says it says add the pied to beta

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it's crazy that that they This is allowed for a country like America where is the party people that are just basically charging a service fee to process here so it's not actually they're not actually full scan websites because they do give us that they I mean

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there is there a scam me as a travel agent

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it's like if your flight center is our next fucking sponsor

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exactly yeah that's what really freaked us out there but the I had the same thing happen when we're looking for we have to get visas to going to Turkey yeah but the the thing that I would suggest is going on to the smart traveler website which is an Australian government run website and it will normally tell you that if you need a visa and now obviously have the link to the official I'll good idea so then you can avoid all that so have you got yours yes or no or you went within the last two years so I think they have now they've got about they have was a three three or four years or something on each one or two years yeah I just did mine last year for my brother's wedding are that's where I

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think we're all clear did you have to because my friend He's going awry it will be in America at the same time. And he said that he said to me, have you done it yet? And I said no. He said, Yeah, you've got to put in your fight your social media followers like you got to put in

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like, what what your social media is and how many followers we have. That's different since I did it. Did you do that now? So I think that it's optional at the moment, there was definitely the options to be able to do all that sort of stuff. But what the options to brag if they asked me if I mean the thing is, I mean, it's more about like

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the risk with it is that guess where they can use it is

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they'll click on those links potentially. So if you get pulled I think it would only be an issue if you were pulled in to a for further investigation or whatever. Say for instance, you were doing some sort of making a documentary and you were meant to be on a journalist visa and you're traveling a travel like just a holiday visa

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yeah and then they could look and say hey you just posted on Instagram that you're working on the structure entry yeah you're wearing a American 1d and you've just said you moving to America and you hear on the travel traveling razor Holiday Visa get back out there full on it happened yet well

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in i know i think was Indonesia some some journalists were exported forum for traveling on the wrong visa. So it does happen. But yeah, yeah. As you said, they, when you go into Li x or wherever you going, you know, flying into in the US they are pretty intimidating. Yeah, well, they asked me he why here like really don't want another fucking struggling actor to be in a country

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that you would I'm sure your alarm bells are going to go off with you. You've got that vibe. Well if anyone's got really active on it struggle you do have making it in Hollywood

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especially now that I'm 30 the older you get the more they think fact these guys having one last crack

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spot on they give me that you might switch Jason done there

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but

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I think that

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yeah it's

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I don't think we have to have to worry too much in the sense of

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the extra risk that I think brain I have that we are

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I think we're going to be going on Turkish Airlines and my vibe would be flying into the states from a Muslim country this probably an extra level of bullshit that you'd have to go through in regards to them being hard asses yeah it's interesting I can't wait 2026 days but yeah so we're gonna have a lot of guests we've been I said that fun in a funny way guests slight here so 1030

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we're locking them in we've got Scott like a will have at least a dozen Americans on the show in October yeah it's

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yeah i mean i'm i'm also I'm looking forward to that but I'm really looking forward to eating some American junk food

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you know what's on your list? Well

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as funny let's Shake Shack New York City I know it's now infiltrated a lie but the original that's from invoice a Shake Shack who I

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had it I had it like probably a month and a half ago in London or easily months ago now and

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it was good I mean the thing is that it's a

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I think junk food like yeah it's it's a hard one I think like I actually prefer In and Out Burger and stuff like that where you can be having something that's a trade yeah

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that doesn't you don't feel shit afterwards maybe we can make it that's a risk make a few little videos about the the junk food and I tend to sell a lot that but we should just do one off all market Shake Shack is In and Out Burger. Actually any good because Australians are obsessed like immediately may saying this. If you're an American, you probably like bro, that's just fucking what's down the corner. You know, down the con. It's been here forever. But there's a novelty factor for Australians. Because when you do go over there, like it's we do have our junk food here. But it's they've got like, you know, the Burger Kings and all of juniors. Carl's Jr, so many more like you go. Even if we go in New Zealand, there's more junk food outlets. They there isn't a Wendy's. So it's insane. Surprisingly

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bad for that stuff like this. Like Yeah,

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I was really surprised. So we'll make a few little reviews. What's better? Is it any good? I I had a bit of blow out yesterday, Father's Day after my party. But you

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can have it you have a blow out. Yeah,

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of course. That's my birthday weekend. And it's Father's Day. So we had McDonald's for breakfast. And then for dinner.

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That's, that is the perfect Father's Day. It was amazing. Because I was you know, I was a bit hungover. And also I don't want to go to a cafe because I'm he said, Let's go out for breakfast. It's a great idea. They don't have stood up and realized that I didn't want to be around walk.

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No, I just, I still have it all. I don't want to be around anyone. I just wanted to be with me. You know, so glad that

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other people feel that way about not being around other people you made. I'd had 32 drinks the night before you just add a fig. This is

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a water

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this is what I've said. though. I'm constantly at hangover phase my whole life. What you crave on. a hangover is what I want to eat all the time. And the idea the feeling that the world feels a bit overwhelming. That feeling Yeah, it's just may every library was asking me today. She said. We're waiting at the bus stop. But I was like waiting. Like, probably 50 meters away. Just down the road away from everyone else. Yes. Like, what do you what are you doing at the bus or not gonna be able to get on the bus? I'm just like, people. So many people. Yeah, well, that's so you feel okay. You're gonna have a good healthy day today? Yeah, I'm

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back. I'm back. We got leftover food from Sunday night. So there's some amazing Mexican that I have. Definitely punish. I'm definitely I couldn't audit. If you could. People who eat junk food every single day. It's you must feel shot because he really feel like I need some. What do you call it? You know those Simon heartburn medication?

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He got a bit of reflux or something.

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It's now but would you consider what do you think? So I've been doing fasting. I mentioned it. I think a week ago. We've been one week of doing every single every single day. We've been doing 16 now fasts. Yes, it's good. It's easy. I appreciate it. Because he just budgeting so that you can do this American day. That's pretty

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much why that one really uses costs. I've worked at that probably 400 dollars we're saving.

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Well, the funny thing is that I'd actually don't think fasting for 16 hours a day isn't actually that phenomenal. Like it's not that amazing. It's literally like finished eating at 5pm. And don't eat again until 9am. Yeah,

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that's right.

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It's not bad at all. Like they're talking as if this is some sort of crazy thing. I thought you sleeping for the majority of that time. Yeah, I've been going to bed at 530. I mean,

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why do you sleep til non have they have a Big Mac Whiting for me.

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Can we? Can we do all my ship breakfast? Bree Bree has been wanting me to mention Yes. She's mentioned it multiple times before the show. Just it's not really a good story at all. It's literally just hash it out. Breakfast has been lightly and spilled giants turned off the podcast. He hates food up there. So well. The food updates coming from break. But the it's so hard in some countries to order a good coffee to know what to say. Especially if you're not just getting an espresso. Yeah, we've been trying all this like if you ask for a

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cappuccino in some places, like you get all froth and no actual coffee. Really? And then yeah. And then so when we say can we have a strong coffee like just all these different ones? I asked Ray I said can I get they've been giving these huge mugs of coffee I said can we get a cappuccino in like a small mag so they gave us like a second baby Chino, tiny. Tiny is a disaster I just take so they take it.

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So literally. They've heard our cappuccino just has more for off on the top and a bit of chocolate. Okay, so we'll go all pretty much all for off and some chocolate home for off

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word of the day. Yeah, quick. I've got one for you. megalomania?

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Oh

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yeah. I don't have any clue something in happy? Yes, it's big megalomania? megalomania? Maybe? It's like, yeah. You go big on everything you do. Everything has to be large. You just obsessed with getting big things

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very close an obsession with the exercise of power.

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Okay. So you're you're an egomaniac? You're a bit of them know you're a megalomaniac.

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Trump would be a megalomaniac a 100% I mean, yeah, if you're the president and especially the way he rolls

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he's Richie I'm asking me and now he's more powerful and more and more rich yeah

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it's pretty outrageous Yeah. So he's I would say, megalomaniac Can I think that's a controversial thing to say I think

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no problem I don't know if it's on all sides. Yeah, I guess he could somebody who just locked that doesn't make bad person megalomania. I mean, any, anything that has the word maniac. He may

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have sort of some negative connotations.

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Just Just quickly before before we go. I was, um, I was rereading save the cat, which is a book on screenwriting, because so Ray, um, I've watched a video by Conlon and send me a couple of YouTubers who were mentioning it, and I haven't read it in probably like 10 years. And I had it on Kindle. So I gave it a bit of a listen. But he talks in the book about like, creating like a one line or like a

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they call it like a byline. So it's a it's a one word is a byline Is that the right phrasing that I'm using. It's basically a sorry a log line. A logline is what he calls it so a logline ease one sentence to be able to describe the film that you making his point is that you need to be able to do describe the whole film or you know get people excited in one line What do you think our log line of the daily talk show would be

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I don't know that's something to think about I've had a big way Get don't put that shit on me but what I can do it is for john week that movie you haven't seen it but I can give you their log line and kill guys dog

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he gets angry and kills everybody.

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That's that's the way of you know exactly

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well said how about this? This would be good. Why don't we get other people to do it? Hi at the daily talk. show.com can you help us because I can't work out what it is I was thinking there's meant to be a bit of irony in it look up log line and sort of get the rules I was thinking

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yeah, like a conversation sometimes with recording doesn't factor it at all. So if you have a good log line for the for the podcast let us know hi the daily talk show you saying.com you saying that will have have it re recorded into our intro that could be yeah yeah How about that like so we will pick a log line let's give it a month of kidding suggestions. But by the end of September we will launch a new intro which has our new log line and will replace everything on our BIOS to describe our show that way

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yeah like this

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okay

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I'm glad you had this audio cut out yeah

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I couldn't have had on the kind of you not being able to fucking be able to come up with what did very quickly so this is great daily talk show. Everyone will say tomorrow. Have a great Monday catches. See you guys